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I take it the majority of you aren't fans of online gaming and/or MMOs? Is it the monthly fee that turns you off? Or perhaps it's only online Final Fantasy games you dislike? I only ask because this forum section seems awfully inactive and that makes me sad.
Did you play FFXI? Was it not a positive experience?
What would it take for Final Fantasy XIV to garner your interest?
And I had to pay 25/month because Square Enix has the most retarded policies on the currencies they accept, so I had to pay in euros. srsly, guys, pull that shit again and I'll be pissed.
But I still enjoyed it, and I'm looking forward to playing FFXIV. It just so happens that a lot of the fanbase are tightarses with unshakeable stances regarding the ideas of what constitutes a "real" Final Fantasy game.
FFXI was the first subscription MMO I played. Before that, I was all "Monthly fee? Piss off." After playing it, it opened this whole realm of video games that I had previously wanted to avoid. MMOs are enjoyable, I find. I think everyone should try a subscription MMO at least once.*
*Runescape so doesn't count, you sad little boys.
Keep an eye on me, I'm going to do some scheming. Here I go--
[20th January 09:05:11] Aurelia I don't speak diva. I speak human being.
I'll probably give FFXIV a go, but I usually don't play MMO's because they bore me, lol. I'm not a fan of grinding for hours and hours to gain .2 of a level, so yeah...usually I'll play for a week then be done with the game.
but it is more fun if you play with people *shrug* but I'm usually too busy to dedicate large blocks of time to that so then all my friends gain 20 more levels than me and yeah, bad news.
Also, a lot of newer MMO's look more fun because they've been able to refine the combat system n' such more...which has usually been static/tedious in my previous experiences as well.
I remember when I began playing RuneScape back then, but I stopped visiting the site in 2008. The game is a joke.
I want to try FFXIV at least for One month since I've never played FFXI. You meet a lot of people (some are fools, others are cool) and it can develop from there. MMOs aren't attractive as they use to be and I'd never want to dabble into Warcraft. Pfft.
I've got nothing against subscription MMO games, save for the fact that I don't exactly happen to shit out money at this point in time. I'll get back to you though. In all seriousness though, lol, I just can't do $20 a month here, a cell phone bill there, buying the food to make myself lunch when I go to school, etc. If that wasn't an issue, I'd be all over FFXI and FFXIV, but as it stands now, it just isn't possible.
I play World of Warcraft, and have dabbled into some other MMOs. Honestly, none of them even approach WoW's polish. There's good reason behind that. WoW is an enormous cash cow and has had years and years to use that money to refine the experience through constant patches and tweaks. I'll probably pick up FFXIV for at least a little while, but I still don't like the inclusion of MMOs into the main Final Fantasy titles.
At least it seems that they put entirely different teams in charge of developing the MMOs, and they don't delay the release of the other Final Fantasies at all.
Final Fantasy XI is the ONLY game in the series I haven't played. Doubt I ever will. I prefer games that have a definite ending, for the sake of no getting too involved, and maintaining a real life on the side. World of Warcraft was my horror story.
Anyways, either way you look at it, an old online game with a dwindling active user base is pretty much doomed. Final Fantasy XI was released 2002. Sure they've piled expansions on to bring it "up-to-date"... but I'm pretty sure it's longevity will soon be trumped. Anyone think Final Fantasy XI will become obsolete after XIV is released?
Too bad they're leaving the servers up and updating XI for at least another year after XIV comes out.
XI was a great game though. People say it's so hard to get into, though I found it really easy, possibly due to starting with a friend and getting myself into a decent Linkshell. I'm definitely picking up XIV when it comes out, though. I don't know how it'll match up to XI, but it looks great in its own right.
SIDE NOTE: At least they bothered putting a story into this game instead of making it a normal MMO that has an introductory story and never mentions shit again.
A coherent storyline is actually one of the things that I admire so much about WoW. Anyone who takes the time to pay a little bit of attention has huge depths of lore and story to discover, and the fact that Final Fantasy MMOs indulge in the same thing can only be good.
I don't like playing MMOs because you have to work with people and since I'm a loner, I can't do that, even if it's people I don't know that are in a video game. What I hate more is when you have to join alliances, like in WoW. And also, I lose interest in things pretty fast, I just buy them just to feel content by just having them, I use/play it for a week, then I stop or I lose it and don't give a f*ck. So I'm afraid if I subscribe to an MMO I'll stop playing really quick and then I'll just be wasting my parent's unncessary-to-spend money.
Im not into MMOs much, but with the release of FFXIV, I might get it. From when information was being released on it, screens, and trailers Im going to pick it up. The only problem is college, work, and my girlfriend. So I'll only play for limited amounts of time im guessing. Also depends on how close its released after XIII because XIII>XIV.
I'm not into the huge grind, I don't want to pay a monthly fee, and I like a lot of story as well as good pacing in a game (which I'm pretty sure MMORPGs aren't known for). I also am slightly afraid that I would become addicted and spend way too much time on an online FF.
the FF series (mostly since 7) attracted a very young playerbase to the franchise. I'd say a lot of people who got in FF did so when they were in their early teens. This means that when FFXI came out, many of them were still <17 maybe and didn't have credit cards or an income and aren't exactly available to a monthly fee.
The same thing is probably replicating itself with XIV, except its really been a while since the last 'wave' of FF fans were born from a major title. I suppose Dissidia counts.
When I started on FFXI I was 17 and it was my first paying MMORPG. I spent a lot of time on it (i still play) and I've also played a bunch of other MMORPGs out there including WoW. Before WoW came about, MMORPGs really were the realm of late teen / early adult gamers. The popularity of WoW really propelled the paid MMORPG genre and opened it up to more younger kids.
FFXI is the only MMORPG I play left because I like it most - because it is an FF game (I love FF more than I love MMOs) and also because its a good MMORPG. To date it is still the best MMORPG with a story out there. The fact that there are in-game cutscenes that involve your character is one aspect of this.. and they also happen to be unparalleled in the genre. The story is great too (and you CAN complete this, contrary to some strange belief) but the gaming - leveling / events / etc is perpetual of course.
I'm looking forward to playing XIV, although I'm a little saddened to see XI enter its twilight years. Its still definitely going to go on for quite a while - seeing as it IS still the most profitable/revenue-earning game for Square Enix at the moment. Perhaps XIV will beat that, seeing as it is a new-generation MMORPG.
Generally speaking, people who didnt want to get into XI but could probably wouldnt want to get into XIV. Those who couldn't get into XI (money/hardware/etc) will probably not get into it either.
Those who like flashy FMV, story driven cutscenes and long battle animations will also shy away from both XI and XIV..
But those who played XI and loved it will most likely be interested in XIV, so the chances of XIII players hotly discussing XIV is kinda low. Most of that action is happening on the XI forums.
I think it's financially impossible for an MMO to measure up to regular game in regards to pacing.
I played 11 for a little over 100 hrs. I was a white Mage, got in late and didn't know anything. In all that time I only faced 1 story related boss, shopped allot, refined clothes and saw 3 or 4 cities.
What suckEd the most about the experience was the fact that you could lose hrs worth of work by fighting or getting aggro from the wrong monster. Die once, lose a few hours worth of level grinding, die twice, there goes your work again.
IMO, mmo's are to videogames what slot machines are to gambling. They cost moola monthly and they'll never end and they aren't as interesting or as well done as regular games.
I'll probably give 14 a 100hrs too (about the time I spend on a proper ff#). But after that i'll be done. I'd be interested in mmo's that are concise and well produced; and have an ending. Demon's Souls was something like that, and DS is awesome!
I don't like online games. Personally, I don't think that XI and XIV, as online MMOs, should have been part of the main series. It's not like all the Tactics games were or we'd be up to XXV or something by now. XI should have been called FFOnline and XIV should be FFOnlineII, etc. Also, its bullshit to have to pay monthly or whatever for playing it. You buy the game and that's it. I don't want to play FF with other people and be limited to only one character... to me that's not FF.
I also thought it was a joke when they announced XIV at the Sony press conference at this years E3. I laughed at the tv and said 'is it April fool's or what?!' They haven't even released XIII yet I don't want to hear about XIV especially an online game... AGAIN!
I don't care about them working on multiple main series games at a time... SE has too much going on, so many games in the works... AND NONE HAVE BEEN RELEASED YET! Give me XIII, then I'll listen to what other games your making.
But I will NEVER play those online FF, that's not FF.
"To them... we are just pets. I've... been so blind. I was born into a fal'Cie world, raised on a fal'Cie leash, without a master to follow. My life had no purpose."
-Lightning, Final Fantasy XIII
thats like the perfect example of how pepole are willing to ignore and disclaim a particular entry in the official main Final Fantasy lineage (ie, the numbered FFs) to suit what they believe is a 'real' FF.
On many counts, FFXI is a real FF, and I really shouldn't have to explain or validate myself. Square Enix themselves think so, and thats good enough, really.
But really, as much as its an MMORPG, it is also a very traditional FF and is more true to the series than FF7, FF8, FF10, FF12 and FF13, maybe even combined.
And I say this in terms of crystals, chocobo, moogles, magic, Cid, airships, jobs, monsters and so on.
Unfortunately, a good MMORPG is never short. And you have to play more. You should want to play more. FFXI was a little punishing in the past because thats how all MMORPGs (before WoW) were - not casual friendly.. but I think XIV will probably be a lot more relaxed in that sense.
I'm still looking forward to it. Seeing as how its being managed by the same dev team who did FFXI and I thoroughly enjoy FFXI's mission (basically main storyline) cutscenes.. I cannot wait to see how XIV's will turn out, in HD, voice-acted goodness.
I´m not a big fan of online games. I never played FF11 and i wont play FF14. I think the story of an online game will never be as good as the story of a game which is not online. And i dont know why, i just dont like FF online xD