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Old Jul 01 2009, 06:40 PM   #1

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Folks, I believe it's not possible for the military lady / "Bewbzilla" to be the final villain of the game. She'll probably be a "minor nuisance" character who just harasses you on occasion, in the similar vein of Seymour, Beatrix, the Turks, or Judge Ghis. I guess she's someone whom you'll fight on at least one occassion, possibly multiple times if her character is inspired by Beatrix.



Why can't she be the main villain, you ask? In most Final Fantasy games thus far, the Final Boss has inevitably been some kind of archangel / demigod with wings, essentially a gigantic monstrosity. And the final boss forms aren't pretty either. They're FUBAR. They may not have started out that way, but even if they were human once, they eventually become a giant, flying, god-like monster with wings. Can you imagine military lady becoming all steroids buff and oogly with wings? Probably not. If she had angel wings, yes, but if she became like Ultimecia? Hell no.

The only true human-form final boss was Shuyin (FFX-2), but I should take cover for mentioning that because haters are going to come in here and tell me that X-2 wasn't even a real FF game.

But anyhoo, let's compare the trend in main series FF games:

FF3: Cloud of Darkness = possible the beginning of the archangel with bewbs trend

FF4: Zeromus - a F.U.B.A.R. alien monster thing...

FF5: Neo'Ex'Death - WTF F.U.B.A.R. mass orgy of...crucified people-things...

FF6: Kefka = a godlike archangel, with wings

FF7: Safer Sephiroth = a one-winged angel preparing to become a god

FF8: The final Ultimecia = definitely had wings and an archangel thing going

FF9: Necron = had wings and resembled an archangel, or perhaps a death angel

FFX: Yu Yevon = shriveled little squid thing, but definitely a monster (theory goes he started out human, but spent 1000 years summoning so just shriveled up into a squid).

FFXII: The Undying = Vayne fused with Venat, with pieces of the Bahamut fused onto his body. Also had wings.

The Final Boss in every FF must satisfy some traditional requirements:

1. Has multiple phases or forms. May start out human at first (Ultimecia, Vayne)

2. They must have wings.

Therefore, I submit that it's very unlikely that Bewbzilla is a copy of Vayne. You probably won't fight her on an airship where she transforms into the Incredible She-Hulk (a la Vayne Novus), and she probably isn't some kind of sorceress like Ultimecia who can absorb magic and become a scary, FUBAR goddess creature with wings.

And that other military guy in the trailer looks too retarded to be the final villain of the game. I'm expecting something totally new and unexpected, but it will probably have wings and be like a mad god/dess, given Square's predictability and trend in designing final bosses.
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Old Jul 01 2009, 06:50 PM   #2
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I think the last boss will be a Fal'cie
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Old Jul 01 2009, 06:51 PM   #3
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Couldn't this be said about many RPGs?
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Old Jul 01 2009, 06:58 PM   #4
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Couldn't this be said about many RPGs?
Tales of Symphonia pops right into my head.

And my god, how much free time do you have? This is like, the second WALL of text speculation today. I feel sorry for your friends if you talk about this.

As for the actual topic of the thread, who knows, I don't care. The last boss usually is horrendously easy anyway.
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Old Jul 01 2009, 07:10 PM   #5

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I really like how you analyze the series. LOL. A critical analysis of the series's final boss trend. You write a lot in your thread, huh? Anyway, very nice work, indeed. I give you an A for this.

Also, I always kinda thought maybe Bewbzilla could join the main party in the middle of the game or something. It would be cool to control her and using her attack skills and stuff. Then she can then go all bad again and try to destroy Lightning..... NAH. She is too hot to be a villain, she should just defect the enemy party.
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Old Jul 01 2009, 07:38 PM   #7
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Yeah, this poster does remind me of someone with a pink red Lightning avatar (I believe he was called FF13xFanatic) who always posted long threads without any meaning and pure speculation. I haven't seen him around lately, so I guess that he thought his atb bar filled up to slow, and he left like a lot of other goblins
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Folks, I believe it's not possible for the military lady / "Bewbzilla" to be the final villain of the game. She'll probably be a "minor nuisance" character who just harasses you on occasion, in the similar vein of Seymour, Beatrix, the Turks, or Judge Ghis. I guess she's someone whom you'll fight on at least one occassion, possibly multiple times if her character is inspired by Beatrix.



Why can't she be the main villain, you ask? In most Final Fantasy games thus far, the Final Boss has inevitably been some kind of archangel / demigod with wings, essentially a gigantic monstrosity. And the final boss forms aren't pretty either. They're FUBAR. They may not have started out that way, but even if they were human once, they eventually become a giant, flying, god-like monster with wings. Can you imagine military lady becoming all steroids buff and oogly with wings? Probably not. If she had angel wings, yes, but if she became like Ultimecia? Hell no.

The only true human-form final boss was Shuyin (FFX-2), but I should take cover for mentioning that because haters are going to come in here and tell me that X-2 wasn't even a real FF game.

But anyhoo, let's compare the trend in main series FF games:

FF3: Cloud of Darkness = possible the beginning of the archangel with bewbs trend

FF4: Zeromus - a F.U.B.A.R. alien monster thing...

FF5: Neo'Ex'Death - WTF F.U.B.A.R. mass orgy of...crucified people-things...

FF6: Kefka = a godlike archangel, with wings

FF7: Safer Sephiroth = a one-winged angel preparing to become a god

FF8: The final Ultimecia = definitely had wings and an archangel thing going

FF9: Necron = had wings and resembled an archangel, or perhaps a death angel

FFX: Yu Yevon = shriveled little squid thing, but definitely a monster (theory goes he started out human, but spent 1000 years summoning so just shriveled up into a squid).

FFXII: The Undying = Vayne fused with Venat, with pieces of the Bahamut fused onto his body. Also had wings.

The Final Boss in every FF must satisfy some traditional requirements:

1. Has multiple phases or forms. May start out human at first (Ultimecia, Vayne)

2. They must have wings.

Therefore, I submit that it's very unlikely that Bewbzilla is a copy of Vayne. You probably won't fight her on an airship where she transforms into the Incredible She-Hulk (a la Vayne Novus), and she probably isn't some kind of sorceress like Ultimecia who can absorb magic and become a scary, FUBAR goddess creature with wings.

And that other military guy in the trailer looks too retarded to be the final villain of the game. I'm expecting something totally new and unexpected, but it will probably have wings and be like a mad god/dess, given Square's predictability and trend in designing final bosses.
That seems to be the man you speak of! Way to make yourself look like an ass mercy.

By the way fanatic, keep doing what you do. You actually make speculation & analysis interesting once again.
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Old Jul 01 2009, 08:19 PM   #9
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I love how the quote button captures the hilarious post before the poster can edit it. XD
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Old Jul 01 2009, 09:40 PM   #10
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Old Jul 01 2009, 09:45 PM   #11
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I don't wanna this woman to be the main villian. It's ok if she is one of the villians but please not the main one!


I want to see in this game something new in terms of good and bad. Versus is going towards what I want as it been said so.

As for FFXIII, If this woman is Lightning's main target to defeat I will be kinda disappointed!
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Old Jul 01 2009, 10:09 PM   #12
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Why can't she be the main villain, you ask? In most Final Fantasy games thus far, the Final Boss has inevitably been some kind of archangel / demigod with wings, essentially a gigantic monstrosity. And the final boss forms aren't pretty either. They're FUBAR. They may not have started out that way, but even if they were human once, they eventually become a giant, flying, god-like monster with wings. Can you imagine military lady becoming all steroids buff and oogly with wings? Probably not. If she had angel wings, yes, but if she became like Ultimecia? Hell no.

Now tell me.

How would you feel if one of Final Fantasy final boss was a small little sheep?

"Oh crap, 60 hours of my life spent to face the terrible sheep of nutcracking!"

Wouldn't that be interesting?
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Old Jul 01 2009, 10:36 PM   #13
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I have bad feeling about silver hair guy of the military in the trailer.
I think he will cause a lot of troubles for lightning, We have to wait maybe we will see another characters in the future.
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Also, I always kinda thought maybe Bewbzilla could join the main party in the middle of the game or something. It would be cool to control her and using her attack skills and stuff. Then she can then go all bad again and try to destroy Lightning..... NAH. She is too hot to be a villain, she should just defect the enemy party.
You just want to be able to move the camera around so you can stare at her boobs.
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Wings are cool. End of story.
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Old Jul 02 2009, 04:10 AM   #16
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I think sazh should be the last boss with disco music playing and of course the secondary final boss (like those weird spike things Ultimecia-Griever summons) should be a disco ball!
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Old Jul 02 2009, 04:17 AM   #17
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Wow, I just love the depth of analysis of your ideas about Final Fantasy XIII. It really makes me ponder!

I love your attention to detail.

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I think sazh should be the last boss with disco music playing and of course the secondary final boss (like those weird spike things Ultimecia-Griever summons) should be a disco ball!
LOL! I love the way you think.
That would be so funny. XD

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Old Jul 02 2009, 04:56 AM   #18

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the final boss will be an arcangel Fal'cie that will some how have a connection to lightning
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You just want to be able to move the camera around so you can stare at her boobs.
To be honest, I really meant what I said. But your assumption is not a bad idea at all! I'll take it! I don't mind looking at such final fantasy perfection, anyway.
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The undying looked more like a giant butterfly than an angel

But I digress

I have no problem with this girl eventually looking like Angewomon from Digimon (yes I watched it as a kid, fuck you guys)

I don't see why she couldn't be the final boss
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