summons?

Twilight · Mar 04 2007, 10:53 PM

This is a subject that has yet (if ever) to be brought up by Nomura it seems. Do you think Summons will have a place in FFversusXIII? If this game is a template of sorts to the next KH project I guess the possibilities of a summon system could work like KHI&II

anyway your thoughts on the subject?

Pulse · Mar 04 2007, 11:44 PM

To be perfectly honest, I dont think there will actually be summons in FFVXIII, which is gutting. However, I do think there will be something in its place... sort of similair to quickenings in FFXII.

I really want there to be summons in FFVXIII, but I dont think that there will be

Josh

Kitmitsu · Mar 05 2007, 01:58 AM

Summons hadn't really crossed my mind in Versus. I suppose it is a big possibility they could make an apperance. I'm gonna kick myself for comparing it to Dirge of Cerberus but that did include Vincent changing into Gallian Beast and thats another spinoff but that was more of an attack boost than a supporting summon. I can imagine there being some sort of limit breaks or an ability similar to either devil trigger or bullet time but I have no idea about Summons. Let's hope though

Wind · Mar 05 2007, 04:26 AM

Its possible theyll pull a ff12 on us with the summons as ships. If not that then a particular item or place (maybe the weapons are named after the summons??).

Still with the eye changing bid, we only saw a glimpse of it. So it is possible that the changing of the eyes is a beginning of a full transformation or berserking (at least later on in the game).

We still dont know the other major characters, so it is also possible the summons may come as:

Enemies
Allies
Other.

Firewolf · Mar 05 2007, 04:47 AM

what about magic spells will they be in the game

Pulse · Mar 05 2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Firewolf

what about magic spells will they be in the game

Nobody actually knows about FFVXIII as yet because nothing has been released from SE, however... FFXIII itself has had alot of magic spells released. But until SE tell us more.. we have nothing to answer that question except major speculation and hope.. lol

Josh

Flint · Mar 05 2007, 03:32 PM

I'd like there to be summons in the game, but only if they are of any actual use. I don't want it to be like Kingdom Hearts 2 where the summons were of no real merit or importance. Most of them I only used once just to see what the animation looked like, I could get through 99% of the battles just using regular attacks.

I would hope that the battle system in Versus is a lot more technical and strategic rather than the 'mash the X button' simplicity of KH2.

Twilight · Mar 05 2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I would hope that the battle system in Versus is a lot more technical and strategic rather than the 'mash the X button' simplicity of KH2.

I know what you mean, at the end of the day KHII really did stick with the X button to do most of the combos, though square could be occasionally used i realized but little difference unless you wanted to counter.

For both FFvsXIII and the next KH I hope they put further thought into the strategy of the battle system

A leaf could be taken out of DMC system, where timing adds variety to what you character performs.

I can imagine the Classic Summons (Shiva, Ifrit, Bahamut) if not used, will just appear as names of objects or aircrafts. If they do decide to add them in, perhaps use them in the sense that they're aren't just an animation, but they actually follow your movements in battle and aid in attacks. I guess something like FFXII

Passion · Mar 05 2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I'd like there to be summons in the game, but only if they are of any actual use. I don't want it to be like Kingdom Hearts 2 where the summons were of no real merit or importance. Most of them I only used once just to see what the animation looked like, I could get through 99% of the battles just using regular attacks.

I would hope that the battle system in Versus is a lot more technical and strategic rather than the 'mash the X button' simplicity of KH2.

I have to agree with 100% of everything you said there. =) I like Summons really being part of everything like they were in VIII, X and XII. Also. Have to say that if VXIII were to use Summons I think it'd be really cool if they called them Guardian Forces again and possibly had a new batch of summons - similar to how FFXII did. The reason for this being that they could then leave the traditional summons to XIII. Like for instance Shiva which we've seen.

Flint · Mar 05 2007, 05:38 PM

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I have to agree with 100% of everything you said there. =)

Thanks very much!

. I enjoyed KH2 but the entire battle system was a bit lacking, overall. Hopefully Versus will be a big improvement!

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Have to say that if VXIII were to use Summons I think it'd be really cool if they called them Guardian Forces again and possibly had a new batch of summons - similar to how FFXII did.

Yeah, I'd like to see all-new summons too. I like how FFXIII is using the existing summons in new ways (the Shiva/motorbike thing for example), but it would be nice if Versus could use original creations - I want to be surprised by things I've never seen before rather than thinking 'oh look, it's Ifrit again', or whatever.

Pulse · Mar 14 2007, 05:52 PM

BAHAMUT! ALL THE WAY IN FFVERSUSXIII! LOL

Josh

Sorrow · Mar 21 2007, 06:25 PM

Versus 13 does not need summons because gameplay is different. In my opinion if they make an appearance it will be a great mistake.

Wind · Mar 21 2007, 11:29 PM

Not necessarily, a good fight between the summons would be a blast. If anyone has played FFXI and felt that adreline rush with the avatar battles you would know not only was it worth the experience but you got something out of it (and it doesnt have to be a summon, it can be a weapon for instance).

I would like to see how they are percieved in versus 13 rather than the normal 13. (It would also be cool if the ancient kings had the summon's name.)

Pulse · Mar 25 2007, 12:58 AM

Flint you make a good point as always... fighting the summons would be awesome.. i love doing it in FF12. Was a real 'blast' because you felt then like you pwned them. I liked the battle against ifrit in ff aswell......... so maybe if they did something along those lines where the beast attacks the city and they have to stop it? I duno.. just as long as we get some summons in FFVERSUS13.

Josh

Tzailor-muun · Apr 05 2007, 10:24 PM

Yeah, fighting the summons would be really cool. And i hope they are more "effective" to use in battle than in 12. Like, maybe you want to use them in some tough random battle or use them like everytime you meet a boss. That´s what i did in FFX and it was cool cause then you really wanted to power up your little beasties, apart from XII...

Desi · Apr 06 2007, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tzailor-muun

That´s what i did in FFX and it was cool cause then you really wanted to power up your little beasties, apart from XII...

It also was the most efficient way to battle bosses and made the game easy beyond belief. Summon > overdrive > dismiss > summon > overdrive > dismiss repeat till dead.