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The HD screenshot I posted came from a site which had an interview with Youichi Wada, the Square-Enix president. It mentioned the use of the Unreal engine but the translation was almost impossible to understand. Now RPGFan.com, what I see as one of the worst well known sources for any RPG information has posted an article about the interview claiming that they've dropped the White Engine for FFXIII and are now using the Unreal 3 engine.
It's apparently been dropped to save costs in development but I really can't believe anything that site says as they've been soo wrong in the past. Anyone else have any insight?
I couldn't see it being mentioned that it would be replacing the white engine either. One other thing is that now this information is out, every single Xbox fanboy will have an excuse to say it could easily be ported to the 360. I personally think the images we've seen from the White Engine look better than anything we've seen from the Unreal Engine. I still think the Unreal Engine is good but I don't think it suits FFXIII aswell as the White Engine does so far.
hmm interesting..i do remeber reading them say that using the unreal engine, it will speed up FFXIII development, and i was puzzled by what they meant by that..i guess its possible they are scrapping the white and using the unreal...
"According to the Square Enix president, Final Fantasy XIII will also be powered by Epic Game's highly popular middleware"
if so, it will be interesting to see how it compares visually
on another note...wow the PS3 is THAT hard to program for?
-White Engine is being developed with PS3's hardware in mind, so it can take fully advantage of its console. It will feature several features that are extremely important in games like the FF series, like the feature to show pre-rendered movies in real-time. Thus, the white engine only works for the PS3.
-Square wants to make games for other consoles too, like Xbox360. However, their white engine is not compatible with such consoles, and instead of re-creating another one, they decided to buy the license to use the Unreal 3 engine. This engine is one of the best out there, and can do everything they want for it to do, so they find it pointless to re-create another engine.
The whole "Square licensed the Unreal engine, therefore the white engine is being scrapped" information is nothing but poorly-translated trash.
I won't believe they would change their mind this far into development. Unless theres an official statement I'm not listening to anything RPGFan says.
This is very true. I guess none of you saw this news on ign.com?
Here is a link:
Unreal 3 Engine to be used by Square-Enix
Final Fantasy XIII: Fabula Nova Crystallis will be the last games made using the White Engine. I wonder if the graphics will improve even more using the Unreal Engine? I hope so. If the graphics get worse, I will be disappointed. I highly doubt they will get worse though. After all, Square-Enix wants to please their fans, not make them mad.
I think Square-Enix is switching over, because the Unreal Engine can be used to develop games for all the consoles and PC's, not just the PS3. Also, the Unreal Engine is probably easier to develop on too.
This is exciting news, because we can have Square-Enix games readily available for every system now, instead of most of them being exclusive to Sony. I am a huge SONY and NINTENDO fan. I don't game much on my Xbox unless it is for Halo or the very few good RPG's that are on the Xbox. I don't have Xbox 360 yet. I do have a PS3 and Wii though. I will eventually get an Xbox 360 when it is a little cheaper and has more games that I am more interested in.
The Unreal 3 Engine also means more MONEY for Square-Enix. Smart move eh?
I think Square-Enix is switching over, because the Unreal Engine can be used to develope games for all the consoles, not just the PS3. Alos, the Unreal Engine is probably easier to develope on too.
thats irrelevant..we allready know SE is using Unreal for "future" projects...what this discussion is about is wether or not they will use the engine for FF13 or not, since it was still planned to use the white engine.
Yeah I have seen the article on IGN but if you look at it it says "Final Fantasy XIII, exclusive to PS3, is to be the last game to utilize Square's White Engine exclusively." - Everyone repeat that sentence!
No one has officially said that the White Engine has been scrapped but it does look like many future titles will use The Unreal Engine instead because like you said it can be used on multiple consoles. It hasn't been said anywhere but on RPGFan that they're changing the engine from the White Engine to the Unreal Engine for FFXIII and from the look of that its a mistranslation which they're famous for. The Unreal Engine does mean quicker games and more money for Square but if they scrap months of work to start over on another engine it's going to cost alot.
The White Engine was developed for PS3 titles only in mind so Square-Enix knew that they had to be faithful to just one console. Games like FFXIII which have the best graphics to date and are extremely long and won't fit on a DVD and also require higher or the max specifications the 360 can offer (note the development video and how big the city is and how graphiclly intesive it will be). The Unreal Engine doesn't have graphics as good as the White Engine (though still very good) so it would have to downgrade them slightly and either split the game onto multiple DVD's which is expensive or halve the size of it.
Anyway heres my conclusion - The White Engine has not been scrapped. If it has been moved to the Unreal Engine and released for other platforms then it's going to be at a major cost to the fans (graphics, length, maybe even price if it comes as multiple discs though the price will probably be absorbed by Square themselves). The Xbox 360 is all fine and good but it isn't really suitable for FFXIII without reducing the players experience.
IGN translated a Japanese article to type that one and no where does it mention that the White Engine would only be used by Fabula.
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"Final Fantasy XIII, exclusive to PS3, is to be the last game to utilize Square's White Engine exclusively"
also Kimitsu, i think ur underestimating the power of the unreal engine....yes FF 13 looks great, and i have taken a very good look at the trailer, and i mean every frame.. i wouldnt call it the best looking game to date..at its early stage, Lost Odyssey look pretty damn good to me, and Gears just looks unbeleivable..seeing that rain level in HD, or the nightfall with the krill fying overhead is visually unmatched to me ...
besides, the engine is only responsible for so much....using the unreal engine over White wont mean it will not look as good....
Thanks for pointing that out Kitmitsu. The article I posted DOES say that Final Fantasy XIII will be the last game exclusive to the White Engine.
I am excited for about the White Engine, but I just hope the Unreal Engine is up to par with the Square-Enix team. The best game developers EVER in my opinion. Square-Enix's games always look WAY better than other developer's game, in my opinion.
The Unreal Engine is supposedly easier to develop on. I just hope that doesn't mean the graphics will be worse.
Okay everyone, this closes the case on FFXIII being moved to the Unreal Engine. The Original interview found here has now been ammended because of the misunderstanding that the engine for FFXIII had been changed. Heres what they edited in (translated with Google).
Quote:
(Editorial staff note: Because there was the expression which is not unable to cause misunderstanding to Bunchu, part we corrected contents. The apology is said to everyone of the people and the reader of the authorized personnel)
Any mention of FFXIII has been taken out of the article but the new HD image has been left in. Viva la White Engine!
read...
"Final Fantasy XIII, exclusive to PS3, is to be the last game to utilize Square's White Engine exclusively"
I can read.
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IGN Read an article about FFXIII which mentioned Unreal Engine. That article never mentioned the drop of the white engine. They said that in their post, which was NOT in the original article. They assumed.
IGN Read an article about FFXIII which mentioned Unreal Engine. That article never mentioned the drop of the white engine. They said that in their post, which was NOT in the original article. They assumed.
if you are trying to correct me u failed, because i never said it did fool
UGH. I dont mean IGN's article, I know they said that. They falsely interpreted from the JAPANESE ARTICLE, which they sourced that info from, that the white engine will be used on FFXIII only.
The Unreal Engine?
