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Old Mar 20 2009, 06:41 AM   #1
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It's no secret that the traditionally Japan-focused game developer Square Enix has recently been eyeing the huge North American game market. This is a new direction for a company that has only briefly flirted with Western-focused development in the past—most notably with Secret of Evermore and Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest, both released on the Super Nintendo.

Recent releases like The Last Remnant—which was designed to appeal to both markets—and publishing deals with companies such as Gas Powered Games both go to show just how serious Square Enix is about its strategy. The most telling sign is the new development studio the company has opened up in Los Angeles. Ars spoke with Game Development Manager Fumi Shiraishi to get an idea of what kind of games we can expect from the LA studio and what the company expects from a California studio.

"Square Enix isn't necessarily shifting, it's more of a growth," he explained of the company's recent interest in the North American market. "The stuff [games created by Square Enix in Japan] does what it is supposed to do...but the Japanese market isn't growing."

"It's a different approach entirely," Shiraishi told Ars when asked how the studio's current project compares to past efforts like The Last Remnant, which was specifically designed with the intention of appealing to Western gamers. "We're not deliberately focusing on the North American audience," he said. "We're just trying to make a good game."

But where the LA team has the advantage when it comes to appealing to Western gamers is that it is also made up of Western developers. Cultural differences can make it difficult for a team in Tokyo to create an experience that a gamer in New York enjoys. "It's not a good idea to make a game for people you don't understand," Shiraishi said.

This has created something of a dilemma for the LA team: how do Western developers retain the elusive Square Enix feel?

"We're not trying to make a game with a Western looking main character and with blood and gore," Shiraishi said. Instead, his team is attempting to follow in the footsteps of previous Square Enix games by taking risks and trying to create an experience gamers haven't seen before. "The developers at Square Enix aren't afraid to try new ideas."

"There is no point in making another FPS," he explained. "Our task is different."

Though he wasn't able to reveal what platform—or platforms—the new game is being developed for, Shiraishi admitted that the choice is a big decision. "Square Enix as a whole fell behind in multi-platform development," he said. While the LA studio has the technology to create titles for a variety of different systems, ultimately it's a business decision.

Shiraishi couldn't reveal much about his team's upcoming project, although he did tell Ars that it would fall into a "Western niche" category.
In the mean time, the studio is still adding to its roster of developers, and Shiraishi will be on hand at the Game Developers Conference later this month looking for fresh talent.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2...-shiraishi.ars

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Old Mar 20 2009, 06:53 AM   #2
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You think, they haven't developed shit for the PS3 yet.

BTW I think the unannounced game is The Last Remnant 2.

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Old Mar 20 2009, 07:19 AM   #3
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You think, they haven't developed shit for the PS3 yet.

BTW I think the unannounced game is The Last Remnant 2.
Yeah I hate that. What pisses me off more is that SE says "oh the white engine is only capable on PS3" and look what happened. PS3 ain't getting shit cuz it's "harder to work with" I mean come on SE, you're supposed to be like one of the head honchos of game development and you're saying EA and these other lower ranked (if you will) game developers have no problem making an awesome game like "Dead Space"?

I mean don't get me wrong I know it's not easy making a game but I mean really? SE the least you could do is not over hype games and send out shite games.
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Old Mar 20 2009, 07:50 AM   #4
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I know more then a few people that will be at GDC the end of this month.

Square Enix bought Eidos in February securing there western market for the US.

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Old Mar 20 2009, 07:50 AM   #5
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Stop accepting cheques from Microsoft then, faggots.
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Old Mar 20 2009, 08:17 AM   #6
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Stop accepting cheques from Microsoft then, faggots.
I agree with this quote
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Old Mar 20 2009, 09:15 AM   #7
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You think, they haven't developed shit for the PS3 yet.
They havent? Square Enix Developed The Last Remnant, a game that although isnt out for PS3 yet, is coming and was multiplatform from the start. The only other high End games Square Enix has announced to be in development are FF13, originally a PS3 Exclusive, Versus 13 a PS3 exclusive, and a multiplatform MMO.

So the notion of Square Enix not making games for the PS3 is quite absurd IMO. Publishing a title however, well that is something else.
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Old Mar 20 2009, 10:42 AM   #8
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when he's saying that the platform of choice is a businness decision he's saying its for whoever pays for exclusivity.

happy they arent doing FPS but sad they are soooo stupid, their games were already worldwide apreciated before they started screwing things up trying to please the western market.

if they dont start making the games this generation deserves and keep presenting half assed made games to please the western market they will loose credibility
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Old Mar 20 2009, 11:09 AM   #9
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Stop tryng to appeal North American market. Feggots.
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Old Mar 20 2009, 11:43 AM   #10
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Square-Enix is getting more retarded by the minute. They have pretty much sucked this generation with their games.
Stop being raging FAGGOOOOOTSSSS.
classic way to describe their actions "trying to fix something that isn't broken"
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Old Mar 20 2009, 03:29 PM   #11
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But where the LA team has the advantage when it comes to appealing to Western gamers is that it is also made up of Western developers. Cultural differences can make it difficult for a team in Tokyo to create an experience that a gamer in New York enjoys.
A bit stupid if you ask me, there games were always good enough for us and then they start trying to appeal to NA . Where are they now, no excellant games this gen .


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Old Mar 20 2009, 03:37 PM   #12
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They havent? Square Enix Developed The Last Remnant, a game that although isnt out for PS3 yet, is coming and was multiplatform from the start. The only other high End games Square Enix has announced to be in development are FF13, originally a PS3 Exclusive, Versus 13 a PS3 exclusive, and a multiplatform MMO.

So the notion of Square Enix not making games for the PS3 is quite absurd IMO. Publishing a title however, well that is something else.
And yet they delay FF13 because of the 360 version but not the PS3 version of TRL. Dont tell me that thats "fair."
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Old Mar 20 2009, 03:41 PM   #13
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They havent? Square Enix Developed The Last Remnant, a game that although isnt out for PS3 yet, is coming and was multiplatform from the start. The only other high End games Square Enix has announced to be in development are FF13, originally a PS3 Exclusive, Versus 13 a PS3 exclusive, and a multiplatform MMO.

So the notion of Square Enix not making games for the PS3 is quite absurd IMO. Publishing a title however, well that is something else.
Don't try to defend them. They haven't released anything, he means.

There's no good reason for TLR to still not even have a release date for PS3. Star Ocean must have made them no money, and Infinite Undiscovery... well you can keep that. I'm pretty annoyed that we're going to have to wait even longer for the english version of FFXIII thanks to the 360 port. I wish they'd just go with their original business plan instead of selling out. It's gotten them fucking no where so far.

WKC outsold TLR and IU's first days put together in Japan, I wish they'd do some market research.
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Old Mar 20 2009, 04:21 PM   #14
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Don't try to defend them. They haven't released anything, he means.

There's no good reason for TLR to still not even have a release date for PS3. Star Ocean must have made them no money, and Infinite Undiscovery... well you can keep that. I'm pretty annoyed that we're going to have to wait even longer for the english version of FFXIII thanks to the 360 port. I wish they'd just go with their original business plan instead of selling out. It's gotten them fucking no where so far.

WKC outsold TLR and IU's first days put together in Japan, I wish they'd do some market research.
I wasnt trying to defend them, i was just saying that Square Enix really have only developed and released 1 game for the 360. The fact that Last Remnant still doesnt even have a release date for PS3 is pretty bad, but UE3 sucks on PS3 and perhaps there really trying to get a quality product out. But quite honestly considering what they put out in the first place, i doubt even that....

But in any case, the only thing i really care for Square Enix to bring to me is Final Fantasy XIII, and as long as that's good, i dont really care.
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I wasnt trying to defend them, i was just saying that Square Enix really have only developed and released 1 game for the 360. The fact that Last Remnant still doesnt even have a release date for PS3 is pretty bad, but UE3 sucks on PS3 and perhaps there really trying to get a quality product out. But quite honestly considering what they put out in the first place, i doubt even that....

But in any case, the only thing i really care for Square Enix to bring to me is Final Fantasy XIII, and as long as that's good, i dont really care.
One game for the 360? WTF are you talking about. They have released three...if its got square-enix on the box they had something to do with it.
1. Infinite Undescovery
2. The Last Remnant
3. Star Ocean The Last Hope
And none have them are that good either
I still blame that cunt Wada for some of this stupidity
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One game for the 360? WTF are you talking about. They have released three...if its got square-enix on the box they had something to do with it.
1. Infinite Undescovery
2. The Last Remnant
3. Star Ocean The Last Hope
And none have them are that good either
I still blame that cunt Wada for some of this stupidity
I responded very specifically to Square Enix Developed Titles
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Old Mar 20 2009, 09:18 PM   #17
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WKC outsold TLR and IU's first days put together in Japan, I wish they'd do some market research.
But wouldn't that make them money??? I was under the impression that they liked wasting it on lost causes.
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Old Mar 20 2009, 09:26 PM   #18
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in response to the title of thread:
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"It's a different approach entirely," Shiraishi told Ars when asked how the studio's current project compares to past efforts like The Last Remnant, which was specifically designed with the intention of appealing to Western gamers. "We're not deliberately focusing on the North American audience," he said. "We're just trying to make a good game."

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contradiction at first glance kinda made me mad at first
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Old Mar 20 2009, 10:12 PM   #19
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One game for the 360? WTF are you talking about. They have released three...if its got square-enix on the box they had something to do with it.
1. Infinite Undescovery
2. The Last Remnant
3. Star Ocean The Last Hope
And none have them are that good either
I still blame that cunt Wada for some of this stupidity
Two of those games are made by Tri-Ace, so.....
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Old Mar 21 2009, 03:30 AM   #20
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We've "fallen behind in game development."

Fixed. Seriously, SquareEnix console development is abysmal this generation. We're three years into this generation and they have released one game, and that game still doesn't have a date for the PS3. Lest we mention that game seemed like a rushed mess.

Beyond that, we have FFXIII and Versus, one we might see at the end of this year (in Japan) and the other is still entirely in the air.

That's pitiful for such a major company like SquareEnix. Their handheld development has been pretty good, even if it includes a lot of remakes and refreshes. On consoles though, what the hell? Multiplatform? They haven't even succeeded in developing for ONE platform this generation as far as I'm concerned.
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