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Old Mar 18 2009, 04:08 PM   #1
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Well, I think it's time to start believing in Science and stop believe in... well, most everything the Pope says from now on.

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Pope Benedict XVI, who is making his first papal visit to Africa, has said that handing out condoms is not the answer in the fight against HIV/Aids.

HIV/Aids was, he argued, "a tragedy that cannot be overcome by money alone, that cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which can even increase the problem".

The solution lay, he said, in a "spiritual and human awakening" and "friendship for those who suffer".
This is fucking laughable. If friendship was the cure to illness, Jade Goody wouldn't be dying of... oh Still, that is fucking retarded.

His other solution is, of course, just not to have sex at all. Really realistic, intelligent solutions he's handing out, eh?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7947460.stm
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Old Mar 18 2009, 04:28 PM   #2
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Very retarded indeed.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 04:44 PM   #3
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Why can't someone just hand grenade the fucking popemobile one day. I would open a bottle of champagne.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 05:23 PM   #4
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Old Mar 18 2009, 06:54 PM   #5
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religion is not a fucking cure for any disease
money going into researching AIDS is better than holding hands and praying for eachother
while condoms don't prevent AIDS it's no better than participating in a "spiritual awakening"
fuck, what's the pope thinking?

we're not in the age of where wearing chasity belts, taking abstinence vows, or wearing "purity" rings will make us NOT think about or want sex anymore FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU-

I'm starting to think religious bullshit is need of a cure
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Old Mar 18 2009, 07:36 PM   #6
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Ok, you people really shouldn't bash the pope when you obviously have no clue what he's talking about.

All he's doing is promoting sexual morality as a better means to prevent AIDS than condoms. He is right. Abstinence is a better way to prevent against disease than a condom. Most people don't do this though, but that doesn't mean the Pope needs to endorse that lifestyle. The church has always been against pre-marital sex and birth control.

He isn't even saying condoms should be illegal, just that they provide a false sense of security against the disease and aren't as effective as people might think. They're not the be all end all of STD control.

He isn't saying that "friendship will cure AIDS" or other nonsense.

It angers me to see that virtually every news article on the pope is completely biased as well. I guess that makes more interesting news stories. Bah.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 07:44 PM   #7
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Ok, you people really shouldn't bash the pope when you obviously have no clue what he's talking about.

All he's doing is promoting sexual morality as a better means to prevent AIDS than condoms. He is right. Abstinence is a better way to prevent against disease than a condom. Most people don't do this though, but that doesn't mean the Pope needs to endorse that lifestyle. The church has always been against pre-marital sex and birth control.

He isn't even saying condoms should be illegal, just that they provide a false sense of security against the disease and aren't as effective as people might think. They're not the be all end all of STD control.

He isn't saying that "friendship will cure AIDS" or other nonsense.

It angers me to see that virtually every news article on the pope is completely biased as well. I guess that makes more interesting news stories. Bah.
First of all: sex is a human basic need, so abstinence is COMPLETE NONSENSE AND STUPIDITY. We all know how to protect ourselves from STDs, the problem is that many of us are dumb enough to forget it.

Religious people must be epicly dumb to believe that abstinence and sex only after marriage actually produce good results. I'm not saying 'LOL GO STIX COX ON UR BUMHOLE NOAW' but that you should do it responsibly.

The Pope and the Church as a whole are getting even more epic fail with those dangerous statements. They should completely enforce the usage of condoms in times like nowadays, not say all that bullshit. Plus it's Africa we're talking about, so that should be even more highlighted.

Benedict must be a fucking virgin and is throwing his frustration on other ppl
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:04 PM   #8
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First of all: sex is a human basic need, so abstinence is COMPLETE NONSENSE AND STUPIDITY. We all know how to protect ourselves from STDs, the problem is that many of us are dumb enough to forget it.

Religious people must be epicly dumb to believe that abstinence and sex only after marriage actually produce good results. I'm not saying 'LOL GO STIX COX ON UR BUMHOLE NOAW' but that you should do it responsibly.

The Pope and the Church as a whole are getting even more epic fail with those dangerous statements. They should completely enforce the usage of condoms in times like nowadays, not say all that bullshit. Plus it's Africa we're talking about, so that should be even more highlighted.

Benedict must be a fucking virgin and is throwing his frustration on other ppl

Adding to that, I don't think the Pope even knows how bad African countries' rape epidemic is. Yes it's an epidemic.

Condoms WILL help with contracting HIV. Yes it will. It will it will it will. I know what I'm talking about. Sexual education is a passion of mine. Yes I know they have a failure rate, but it is relatively LOW. Condoms will fail if you DO IT WRONG or if you swap blood or splooge in someone's wound.

Anyway condoms are only for CONSENTING couples. What about the ones that aren't? Little girls are raped repeatedly in these African countries, and I'm sure boys are too as well. No amount of religion will stop these fuckheaded HIV infested rapists from doing these heinous acts. A bullet to the fucking skull will, but that's besides the point.

Putting the rape aside, the condoms will help decrease the amount of children born with HIV, and decrease the amount of women getting HIV because the men were cheating whores and slept around with many women and giving them HIV, thus perpetuating the vicious cycle.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:25 PM   #9
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yall are athiests and not having sex is a much better way to stop aids than condoms. and perhaps aids/hiv is a disease sent downn from God to the african people for having to much sex. makes you think hmm?
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:32 PM   #10
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Oh and before I explode: AIDS is not a disease. HIV is a disease; it is the virus. This is the thing that CAUSES AIDS in the long run. You don't catch AIDS. AIDS is a syndrome which a group of symptoms from a disease, disorder, or illness.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:39 PM   #11
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Oh and before I explode: AIDS is not a disease. HIV is a disease; it is the virus. This is the thing that CAUSES AIDS in the long run. You don't catch AIDS. AIDS is a syndrome which a group of symptoms from a disease, disorder, or illness.
Most people are aware of that.
Please stop being a smart arse, go Wiki some other useless shit we so need to know. <3
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:39 PM   #12
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only a loser would think that. leave religion alone, and why are we talking about this? its a game web sight
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:48 PM   #13
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only a loser would think that. leave religion alone, and why are we talking about this? its a game web sight
Religion is based on astrological findings which has been spun into some bullshit story throughout the ages.
It has a right to be judged, solely on the fact that it's fucking BALLSHAT.

Oh and this rite hur, it's a serious discussion forum which resides within General Chat. Shit could be about fucking Samus and her tit's.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:50 PM   #14
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I wonder if the american priest who was fucking a trannie in rome last days did wear a condom.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:57 PM   #15
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yall are athiests and not having sex is a much better way to stop aids than condoms. and perhaps aids/hiv is a disease sent downn from God to the african people for having to much sex. makes you think hmm?
Too much sex? Hahahaha, there is no such thing as too much sex. We're animals, animals reproduce. Sex is a natural matter, it's not the devils work.

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Religion is based on astrological findings which has been spun into some bullshit story throughout the ages.
It has a right to be judged, solely on the fact that it's fucking BALLSHAT.

Oh and this rite hur, it's a serious discussion forum which resides within General Chat. Shit could be about fucking Samus and her tit's.
Fucken word on the reference to the whole religion thing being spun around astrology.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 08:59 PM   #16
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Haha, Fen that was a good read. That pope is a tart.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 10:20 PM   #17
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God, I hate the pope, he should keep his mouth shut! He's only saying that money isn't a solution so he can keep his treasures in the Vatican.
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Old Mar 18 2009, 10:48 PM   #18
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I don't like this pope. He looks a bit evil IMO. Anyways, on to the subject at hand, condoms do contain help contain HIV/AIDS but they are not the solution. A nice solution rather then stop having sex is to have sex with only a few people. Now AIDS/HIV spread other ways as well; like using needles, swapping blood, etc. but the main cause of AIDS/HIV is having unprotected sex.

Also the common belief was that Gay Men where the cause of the wide spread of AIDS/HIV, which isn't true. They know the risks/dangers of having unprotected sex can bring, so they wear condoms and HIV/AIDS isn't as bad in the Gay Community as many people think.

Anyways, to get to the point condoms do help AIDS/HIV from not spreading to others, though do remember condoms can break
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only a loser would think that. leave religion alone, and why are we talking about this? its a game web sight
So many things piss me off about this post:
1. LERN WHO TOO SPEEL
2. Never take anything too seriously on the internet, calling someone a loser is so uncalled for (sarcasm)
3. We can talk about whatever the fuck we want, it's the fucking internet and there's a reason why there are categories for different forum topics
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Old Mar 18 2009, 11:36 PM   #20
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Most people are aware of that.
Please stop being a smart arse, go Wiki some other useless shit we so need to know. <3
No not really, you'd be quite surprised by the number of people that don't. <3

I'd be glad to research some useless shit on wiki for you. Got anything you'd like to know?
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