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Does "True Love-" as in a man and a woman (Or a man and a man or a woman and a woman, depending on your tastes)- exist, or is there only lust? Is there really a strong, bonding "love force," or is that belief merely a delusion that people use to mask the reality of sexual attraction in an effort to give it meaning? Is there a spiritual bonding when one loves another, or is it just basic human behavior?
There's this girl I really, really like and its been like three years now and I still havent gotten over her. I think she might like me back, but now I just think she's playing with my feelings.
... either I might've fallen in love with her or im just a sucker for love. It's those damn dreams...
I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard...
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I guess some people would call it spiritual, but science has proven that there's a chemical reaction in the human body when you fall in love. So yeah, it exists, and apparently it only lasts for about a year. Sad huh? Pretty much the only instance where science has annoyed me by proving something.
I like to believe there's something spiritual about it. You'll know when you've fallen in love, pretty much every cliche you've ever heard about it suddenly has meaning. And it's definantly not just lust, it's entirely possible to love someone and not care for them sexually.
That's really hard to say cause you can argue either way about the topic.
I would have to say that it really is just a delusion that we just create. When you think about, at least how I can see it, love's ultimate purpose in the end is lust or reproduction. We just add all this other stuff to give it meaning to make it something more then it actually is.
However, it is all this stuff we add to it that makes it something more. Cause it would suck if we just treated it like it actually is, it would feel lifeless, cold, dead. And from this delusion we create for it we make things much more interesting, full or life, give it meaning, purpose (in a way). This goes for the whole bonding love or spiritual connection, it's something that we believe to give it greater purpose. To make it seem like it's not just about sex, lust, sexual attraction or whatever.
Which kind of goes to the human nature of it because, I believe it's human nature for us to make things more interesting in life if we find it boring, eh, sad, or depressing. Cause in the end we all want to be happy no matter what it is we do that makes us happy.
And you know there are people you don't like the whole "bonding love" attachment that some people do and hey that's fine too.
Whether it's in giving attraction more meaning to yourself or even if you don't care and want to just have sex with or be attracted to with anyone and anytime that is completely fine.
I don't know lol just some of my random thoughts on it
I suppose it depends on what you believe in. Some people believe in luck while others don't. It's all about your perspective. I, personally, have no idea. You'd have to listen to someone with more brain cells then me.
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I have no idea, from what I've experienced it does exist ...for some time but then everything changes all of a sudden, and you just stand there wondering wtf. All I know it kills. Freddie was right >_>.
It devinitely does exist. I'm in a relationship for about 1 year now and it's true love.
We have so much in common. Ya, there's a soulmate, there's true love.
Love is primitive and mostly selfish in my opinion, you love someone for your own good. It's not wrong but it is who we are. Of course you will look for someone suited for you not only from the outside but from the inside too, but that's just because that makes you feel good (selfish) and that makes the person you like more suitable for reproduction (primitive). And yes I do have a boyfriend and yeah I do care for him.
I honestly think the word love has lost its value. People have butchered its worth. You can have a male and female simply make eye contact for a few minutes and can say they've fallen in love. Yet they know absolutely nothing about each other. Ridiculous. You can have a couple go out for a week, heck even an hour and say that they've fallen in love. True love can only be expressed in a fleeting moment. Usually in a very romantic, and memorable moment. They say things like 'forever' or an 'eternity' because the couple wishes they could have that very moment last forever. But of course, 'forever' can only last so long. Love can only be established through committment, trust, dedication and time. You can boast that you've gone out with your girl for 5 years yet you've been secretly seeing another woman for the last 2 years. That isnt love, perhaps lust, maybe even a burden. What is true love? Who knows, and who cares. Nothing lasts forever, change is inevitable. It just a matter of time until one tires of the other and decides to seek change, something 'new.'
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There's this girl I really, really like and its been like three years now and I still havent gotten over her. I think she might like me back, but now I just think she's playing with my feelings.
... either I might've fallen in love with her or im just a sucker for love. It's those damn dreams...
I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard... and its not a gross dream either!!
Go for it ! Man! , No pain...No gain , tell her that you love her straightly , be brave! you have to take a risk!
I agree with Nex and RMC; couldn't have said it better myself.
It can be meaningless, or mean everything to you.
It can be a religious experience, or it can be 'basic human behavior'.
It can be chemical, or it can be spiritual.
The only 'correct answer' may be to say that there is no 'correct answer'.
In other words, a subjective answer based on an individual's perspective.
In my opinion love is something to be cherished and nurtured whenever and wherever you find it.
Sure you can break it down to some abstract positive mental interpretation of chemicals, but if that decreases your ability to feel and appreciate love then I say it's to be avoided at all costs!
I hate this topic because its the reason why it makes me so depressed on weekends.Dont ask stfu.
Well If you define true love as an image in your head of a couple drawn to each other forever and only caring for the others need for their sake w/e etc..Then 'personally' I'v never actually witnessed this...although you may have but i doubt that too.
You mentioned a 'Strong bonding love force' but this could also apply to the love between a mother a child and doesnt necesarily include sexual desire...So Love only 'transcends' lust.<<No i dont actually think I could clarify myself properly.Love does include a physical/chemical process as mentioned by Nex.Biologically there is no diference between a mother and childs love and a Man and womens love its just how society interprets it.
There are so many definitions of true love and thus it doesnt share a universal meaning since it is variable.
Hmm, true love.........well, I think it exists for some people, but it's very hard to find.
It seems like the majority of people only want to go out and have "a bit of fun", screwing each other with no strings attached.
I don't agree with that, and haven't ever. I believe that you should wait for the right person before going all the way, but people don't really think like that anymore, and for those who do (myself included naturally), they are a pretty small minority, which is saddening and somewhat depresses me.
One night stands are lust. Elizabeth Swann and Will Turner in pirates of the caribbean represents what true love means to me.
I used to get picked on in high school, and pretty much on a weekly basis, I'd have girls coming up to me and asking me out, only to take the piss out of me and insult me by saying "as if I'd ever go out with a geek/p**** like you", so needless to say I didn't get many gf's in school.
In year 11, I flipped out and wouldn't take crap from anyone anymore, and went psycho at anyone who started on me, so the bullying stopped.
I left school and became a completely different person, and as a result of that, things happened which I thought wouldn't.
This was girls being interested in me. I started getting girls flirt with me, whistle at me etc, and as a result of my past, I thought everyone was doing it to be nasty, but they weren't and generally liked me. I was convinced I was the worst looking person alive, and couldn't understand or believe a girl would actually like me.
Anyway, eventually I got over this, and well eventually got over a girl who I loved when I was in high school. Took 4 years to get over her, and I knew her for 3 years, but she broke my heart when she started sleeping around. We were best friends, and when I asked her out in high school, she said she would have gone out with me if she wasn't already with someone.
Anyway, I got with quite a lot of girls after high school, as I had lots of confidence in the end, but I eventually found someone else.....well two girls who I felt that it might be love again with them, and I'm pretty sure it was. My feelings were still messed up though, as I'd been ditched so many times, that I had hardly any feelings left for anything.
Anyway, both girls left me for someone else and cheated on me. The first one named Clair seemed like a really nice person, but had a lot of issues, and after 2 months decided to use my own insecurities against me as reasons for the break up, when she'd been seeing this womaniser who I knew and hated behind my back the whole time, and the other girl said she liked me too much in the end and didn't want to ruin anything, so s aid she wants to go out with someone who she had no feelings for (who she was also seeing behind my back), and threw away everything we had, so I said I don't ever want to speak to her again, and hate both of them.
Hatred's not a nice thing, but I guess if you get treated really badly, that's a result of it......so, maybe I just haven't found the right girl yet, or I might not ever find the right girl, so I don't think I'll ever find true love. I've been disillusioned too much, and as a result, have little trust in girls now. The only ones I trust are my good friends. I guess the worst things happen to the best of people or some crap like that.
I know what true love is, but just have doubts that it exists for me at least.
Lol, sorry for the essay, but hopefully it amused you or gave you a little bit of a better understanding? I dunno.
Hmm, true love.........well, I think it exists for some people, but it's very hard to find.
It seems like the majority of people only want to go out and have "a bit of fun", screwing each other with no strings attached.
I don't agree with that, and haven't ever. I believe that you should wait for the right person before going all the way, but people don't really think like that anymore, and for those who do (myself included naturally), they are a pretty small minority, which is saddening and somewhat depresses me.
This.
True love probably does exist, but flippant sex killed it off. Kind of. Just to explain my view of it bluntly.
Hey again man. Nice to know people actually agree with how I see things. It could be said a lot more bluntly than that, but then the people explaining it would look like the bad ones I guess.
Well, I'm happy for those of you who have found true love.
It's just pretty much the rest of us who want it, who have little to no hope with finding it, it seems.
Down boy . True love is rare in this dog-eat-dog world where everyone cares only benefits and competes with each other all the time. Because true love means like you don't care about the external values (good-looking,high-social,prestige,sex,money,wealthy) , even she/he 's ugly or very poor but you still love his/her because you look only what's inside of his/her mentality and it means you focus on abstraction , not material object. This type of people are quite rare , but i didn't say there's no this type of people at all , there is , but it's minority ,you have to find which is alot difficult! While majority is caring about the material object.
You're sittng drinking Espresso inside Starbucks and then you see some beautiful fucking hot sexy lady who's like come from America's Next Top Model and you also notice that she's coming with another pal who looks like old fat plain lady , coming inside to buy coffee , and do you think who will you decide to make a move and start the fiery love with?
C'mon 99% will choose that hot supermodel chick for sure , because every people especially guys always focus on externality first. Love at first sight is in everywhere , but true love is almost extinct because we're in material world. But if you open your mind enough to accept somebody who's not perfect,not hot,not a supermodel,not good-looking,not rich,not famous, and still love them all of your heart with no any conditions behind , can sacrifice yourself to them , loyal,pured,devoted and without sexual business thought , so this is what the true love is. It's about the mentality and abstraction which is hard to find this type of people. Therefore , no need to be the hunger restless warrior who's still seeking for the lost part of him.
Otherwise , another meaning of true love,it can be described as the development from love at first sight , once you engaged with your gf/bf who you looked at the externality first , and then continue passion with the sexual way , and then finally can match up physically and mentally and can last the long-term love together with no cheating or any disasters , this can describe true love,too. Because you two understand each other's feeling , even no words, but you two can understand that how much love you're to each other. It's a soulmate thing.
Does "True Love" Exist?
