One question . . . . .

[Vtks]

why in all the final fantasies banners appears the name of the character designer instead of the game director??????

[Near|DanteXP|Sasdx]

Eh....I don't know never noticed...

[pseudocognition]

Mmm... I think it's because the idea of a certain character designer being behind a game means quality. If a new game were to come out tomorrow and you knew nothing about it other than that the characters were designed by Nomura, would you be interested? People with a history of liking FF and KH would be. I mean, I have no idea why you wouldn't instantly recognize his art, but.... *shrug*

Well, whatever the reason, I'm pretty sure it has to do with getting people to hand over money.

[CaptainCortez]

To show that the artwork for a certain game, has been done by that particular artist?

Come on, the artist has to get credit somewhere.....he's designing the characters for it after all.

The director would be credited either on the game's case, or inside the instruction manual, and sometimes in both!

It just makes sense really.

I mean, if I were to design an illustration for say I dunno, one of Tim Burton's film's for example. I wouldn't put Tim Burton's name on my artwork. I'd put my OWN name on it, due to the fact that it would have been me who created and produced it in the first place.

It's like doing an exam, and then putting someone elses name on the exam page.......you just don't do it........well, unless you were dropped on your head as a baby, in which case you might, but still.

Credit is given where it's needed.

[pseudocognition]

Originally Posted by CaptainCortez

Credit is given where it's needed.

This isn't entirely true. In the majority of cases, it takes some digging to find out who did what. Very few people, especially character designers, are credited right on the box or artwork itself. And Hideo Kojima is the only director I know who doesn't have his name in fine print as an afterthought.

This is what I mean. Try and place an image with the illustrator. Can't, it's not signed, because the artwork belongs to AreaNet and NCsoft. That's how it works in the industry, most of the time. "Here's all of the art." "Here's a list of people that did it."

ETA: You don't have to be so flippant.

[CaptainCortez]

Well, I'm not being flippant, but if that's how you want to see it, it's up to you.

Yes, directors like to plaster their names all over their games, but usually credit is given where it's needed more so than not.

So that's my response. It wasn't nasty, just an explanation that was to the point. Bit of a silly question anyway, but hey.

[pseudocognition]

It was not a silly question. And you're misinterpreting what I said. I said that Hideo Kojima was the ONLY director to plaster his name everywhere. And Tetsuya Nomura/Akihiko Yoshida are the only character designers I know who are credited anywhere remotely obvious.

Very few people are credited outside of the credit scroll, which most people skip. That is why his question wasn't silly. And by saying so, you are being flippant.

[3FinalGamer3]

Well isn't it logical artist sign their art? There is room for the game director in the credits though everyone tries to skip those, a real fan would know a good game director and the games he makes.

[pseudocognition]

asdklfja;sdlfkj okay. Yes. It is logical to sign artwork. But let me make the distinction between concept art and illustration. Concept art is done for a company and is owned by a company, therefore it is the company's responsibility to defend ownership. It is done by the artist for the company. It's the same reason you don't see the graphic designer's signature on every can of Pepsi.

Illustrations, when done freelance, are signed because the artist needs to declare ownership of the piece individually. Without a signature or proof of creation, anyone can just pick it up and claim it as their own.

I interpret the question as being "why does Square Enix put "Character Design by Tetsuya Nomura" on everything?" Most if not all concept art is made without making a huge deal over who did it. And the answer is, I don't know. It must be because the Japanese are so character-centric with their games, that it matters more what the character looks like than who's directing the game.

If you still have objections, I'll just throw my years of illustration experience out the window because it doesn't seem to matter.

[CaptainCortez]

Originally Posted by 3FinalGamer3

Well isn't it logical artist sign their art? There is room for the game director in the credits though everyone tries to skip those, a real fan would know a good game director and the games he makes.

Exactly my point, which Miss.Knowitall here doesn't understand.

Anyways, Pseudo, you're going around throwing accusations about, and not taking a step back to think about how someone else feels before calling them "flippant".

I am not disrespectful, so stop insinuating that I am. I couldn't be any less disrespectful if I tried, even though we live in a world where respect doesn't seem to exist anymore. If you were born in 91, that makes me 4 years older than you, so be a little more mature about it and respect your elders, will ya? This forum isn't just filled with a bunch of kids who have no idea what they're on about.

I joined this forum to talk about things that I'm looking forward to, not to bicker with such arrogant little girls, such as yourself, which is why I haven't insulted you once with derogatory or profane names.

That's for your artwork, it's good and I'm trying to become an illustrator myself, but just don't know where to begin with it all.

Give me a pencil and a piece of paper, and I can draw anything that exists pretty much identical to whatever it is I drew, but struggle with doing things from my own head.

My point however, is that being an illustrator and knowing things about art, doesn't automatically give you infinite knowledge and an all seeing eye into everything art related, so therefore you're not always going to be right, and in this case, you're in the minority.

Besides, I replied to the person who made this topic, purposely to answer their question, and not to have some other person come along and try to argue with every point I made.

So, if you like, continue throwing around accusations, continue being argumentative, and immature if you like, and get the last word in, because this is my last say on the matter.

Stop going on like a broken record, and give it a rest. Cheers.