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Old Nov 25 2008, 01:49 PM   #1
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Angry Western journalists hate SQEX. It's pretty much confirmed.

I've finished The Last Remnant now. I swear to God the technical issues get even worse on the 2nd disc but, as I've said before, they don't make the game unplayable. IMO, I'd score the game 8.2/10.

The problem is that tech whores are taking over the world. Also westerners are beginning to feel superior to Japanese developers. It's all Wada's fault for saying, "The Japanese industry is weak and the western one is the shit. We now have to make our games adapt to what westerners like." That was the biggest bullshit I've heard from him and he says a lot of BS.

That aside, western journalists are fucking picking on SQEX because of the way they design their games. I remember back in the PS1 and PS2 era, FF was a RPG; there was none of this JRPG shit I hear everywhere now. I mean on every western The Last Remnant review I see JRPG to classify the game but back in the PS1 and PS2 era every SQEX western review said RPG? What has changed?

There's some serious segregation and prejudice going on this gen. I don't know why it started but I think it's because back in the PS1 and PS2 era Japanese made RPGs sold the most but so far in this gen western RPGs are selling more such as Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Fable II. Western journalists are now taking this, as well as the Japanese industry currently being weaker than the western one, to their heads and now Japanese developed RPGs are something else and the old shit and classified as a totally different breed of RPG, the JRPG, western RPGs are freely still called RPGs.

WTF? Is this game genre racism?


Seriously if western RPGs take over the west and SQEX stop releasing their JRPGs over here because either they won't sell or constantly get low scores then I'm moving to Japan. That's what these reviewers are aiming for, to stop people buying The Last Remnant and so SQEX will be forced to make games that play like a western RPG to better suit the western market. I mean 5.3 from IGN? Is that a joke? Some of crappest games and movie tie-in get higher than that.
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Old Nov 25 2008, 02:04 PM   #2
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Racism? GAME GENRE RACISM?
Are you suggesting that because people are selecting different region games... that it's applied racism? Jesus.
The only reason people have picked up Western RPG's is because they are good games. They have applied that of how JRPG's used to be and created their own method.
The Japanese DO have a weak market, the West are advancing more and more and making BETTER games.
Where as Japan is lagging somewhat, they are trying new method's but they aren't adapting well. It's almost likely they arn't fully taking time to bother in creating anything efficient. And The Last Remnant is a damn good example.
You wonder why their games get low scores? It's because they are not well made and are not applied to correctly, they are not targeting the Western market as a whole and finding out what THAT SPECIFIC consumer wants.

They is no fucking racism here at all.
And if FFXIII gets low scores, oh fucking well. Big deal, its a fucking game, it doesn't mean the West are applying racism on a fucking game and its genre.
Urg. Of course the west are beginning to feel Superior, its a fucking LARGER MARKET. Meaning MORE MONEY.
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I'm pretty sure back then there weren't too many popular Western RPG's so there wouldn't be any point in differentiating between them. Now there's loads and the gameplay and all that tend to be different, so it's just easier to seporate them. Race has nothing to do with it.

SE make far too much money from us to stop selling to us, I doubt that's gonna happen any time soon. Although... I went to Japan recently and we went into a few game shops, there are LOADS of RPG's (not SE) that never get released over here. Like, ten shelves full. But that'll just be because there wouldn't be enough guarranteed sales to be worth all the translating crap.
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I've finished The Last Remnant now. I swear to God the technical issues get even worse on the 2nd disc but, as I've said before, they don't make the game unplayable. IMO, I'd score the game 8.2/10.

The problem is that tech whores are taking over the world. Also westerners are beginning to feel superior to Japanese developers. It's all Wada's fault for saying, "The Japanese industry is weak and the western one is the shit. We now have to make our games adapt to what westerners like." That was the biggest bullshit I've heard from him and he says a lot of BS.

That aside, western journalists are fucking picking on SQEX because of the way they design their games. I remember back in the PS1 and PS2 era, FF was a RPG; there was none of this JRPG shit I hear everywhere now. I mean on every western The Last Remnant review I see JRPG to classify the game but back in the PS1 and PS2 era every SQEX western review said RPG? What the fuck has changed this gen!?

There's some serious segregation and prejudice going on this gen. I don't know why it started but I think it's because back in the PS1 and PS2 era Japanese made RPGs sold the most but so far in this gen western RPGs are selling more such as Oblivion and Fallout 3 and Fable II. Western journalists are taking this as well as the Japanese industry currently being weaker than the western one to their heads and now Japanese developed RPGs are something else and the old shit and classified as a totally different breed of RPG, the JRPG, western RPGs are freely still called RPGs.

WTF? Is this game genre racism?


Seriously if western RPGs take over the west and SQEX stop releasing their JRPGs over here because either they won't sell or constantly get low scores then I'm moving to Japan. That's what these eviews are aiming for, to stop people buying the game and so SQEX will be forced to amke games that play like a western RPG for the western market.

I won't be surprised if I see some low scores of FFXIII. I hope I don't but I won't be surprised if I do.
I'm not surpsied they're picking in Square Enix games, they genuienly suck. Just because western RPG's ARE BETTER atm than Japanese RPG's, doesn't mean they're racists nor does it mean they're being picked on you fucking retard.

Just because a country begins churning out bullshit RPG's (Japan) and the west has started to evolve their skills, doesnt mean journalists are being biased. It just means they don't like certain games.

FFS two of the games you mentioned are by the same fuckign company for god sake! Jesus, you are retarded.

If journalists were shitting on American RPGs and blowing their load of the Japs RPGS you wouldn't be complaining.

Edit: Just for a note here, I fucking hate Square Enix myself, they suck really bad. Does that make me racist for thinking they make bullshit?

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You wonder why their games get low scores? It's because they are not well made and are not applied to correctly, they are not targeting the Western market as a whole and finding out what THAT SPECIFIC consumer wants
IMO, The Last Remant is very well made and only the technical issues spoil it. And targeting the western market for their games is full of fail.
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I'm not surpsied they're picking in Square Enix games, they genuienly suck. Just because western RPG's ARE BETTER atm than Japanese RPG's, doesn't mean they're racists nor does it mean they're being picked on you fucking retard.

Just because a country begins churning out bullshit RPG's (Japan) and the west has started to evolve their skills, doesnt mean journalists are being biased. It just means they don't like certain games.

FFS two of the games you mentioned are by the same fuckign company for god sake! Jesus, you are retarded.

If journalists were shitting on American RPGs and blowing their load of the Japs RPGS you wouldn't be complaining.
Take your head out your ass.

If you read the reviews that have low scores, they start off with the JRPG this and JRPG that and all the issues they don't like about them like pretty boy leads and grinding. They already have issues with the genre before they even start reviewing the game. The ones that are ok with it like GameSpot still give it 6.5 juist for minor technical issues.

Yeah and I know Oblivion and Fallout 3 are the same company, does the shit even matter? Thy're are both still western RPGs. It's all bias, you're just to anal to see it.
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IMO, The Last Remant is very well made and only the technical issues spoil it. And targeting the western market for their games is full of fail.
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Take your head out your ass.

If you read the reviews that have low scores, they start off with the JRPG this and JRPG that and all the issues they don't like about them like pretty boy leads and grinding. They already have issues with the genre before they even start reviewing the game. The ones that are ok with it like GameSpot still give it 6.5 juist for minor technical issues.

Yeah and I know Oblivion and Fallout 3 are the same company, does the shit even matter? Thy're are both still western RPGs. It's all bias, you're just to anal to see it.
Final Fantasy VII - IGN Score: 9.5
Final Fantasy VIII - IGN Score: 9
Final Fantasy IX - IGN Score: 9.2
Final Fantasy X - IGN Score: 9.5
Final Fantasy X-2 - IGN Score: 9.5
Final Fantasy XI - IGN Score: 8 (PC)
Final Fantasy 12 - IGN Score: 9.5 (US), 9 (UK)

Fallout 3 - IGN Score: 9.4
Oblivion - IGN Score: 9.3
Fable 2 - IGN Score: 8.8 (US), 9.5 (UK)

With all those 9's racism is cleary seen

And yes, being made by the same company gives a hint at which company's are good at making games, not their country.

Get your fucking head out your ass you retard. Yes, JRPG's are full of wanked up pretty boys, I fucking hate pretty boys. They're old, boring and make shit hero characters. Now, I love JAPANESE rpg's and just because they gave your bullshit Laast Remnant a low score, doesn't mean their racists, it just means the west have heightened the standards. FUCK OFF with your racism, and just accept that some people mightn ot like the same bullshit as yourself.

The BIGGEST difference between RPG's and JRPG's that I've noticed is that the west prefers sandbox, and the Japs prefer linear storylines. Now fuck off.

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They're not being racist you idiot. They don't like a game because it's shitty, get over it. Infinite Undiscovery was a piece of shit rushed out as well and that sold shit and got pretty shit reviews as well.

When the reviews are shit then the sales are shit that says something collective. If the game was amazing and every site happened to be racists then it would sell well anyway and you wouldn't see pretty much everyone on forums moaning about the tech issues in TLR.

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Yeah, and that's a pretty big factor, and things like framerate drops and texture pop in really annoy some people. Framedrops really fuck me off personally, it wouldn't ruin a game but it would annoy the hell out of me which is not what I want since I play games to have fun
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Old Nov 25 2008, 02:43 PM   #9
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Final Fantasy VII - IGN Score: 9.5
Final Fantasy VIII - IGN Score: 9
Final Fantasy IX - IGN Score: 9.2
Final Fantasy X - IGN Score: 9.5
Final Fantasy X-2 - IGN Score: 9.5
Final Fantasy XI - IGN Score: 8 (PC)
Final Fantasy 12 - IGN Score: 9.5 (US), 9 (UK)

Fallout 3 - IGN Score: 9.4
Oblivion - IGN Score: 9.3
Fable 2 - IGN Score: 8.8 (US), 9.5 (UK)

FAIL.

1) Wada mentioned that Japanese games are going down in sales and western games are coming so they have to try abnd make their games please the western market this gen.
2) Sales of western RPGs only surpassed JRPGs this gen.
3) The JRPG definition only came into western reviewers main vocabularly this gen.

Fuck the scores of past FF games, that was before the current industry situation. Had The Last Remant come out with JRPGs still being the popular form of RPG then the scores would be higher. Western reviewrs are kncoking The Last Remnant in a way to basically say to SQEX that their shit is not liked anymore so either make stuff we like or don't bring it out. These pretty boy leads need to GTFO for a start!

I know what they're trying to do. "Western power FTW!" that's the tactic their taking. Wada should not have opened his mouth.
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FAIL.

1) Wada mentioned that Japanese games are going down in sales and western games are coming so they have to try abnd make their games please the western market this gen.
2) Sales of western RPGs only surpassed JRPGs this gen.
3) The JRPG definition only came into western reviewers main vocabularly this gen.

Fuck the scores of past FF games, that was before the current industry situation. Had The Last Remant come out with JRPGs still being the popular form of RPG then the scores would be higher. Western reviewrs are kncoking The Last Remnant in a way to basically say to SQEX that their shit is not liked anymore so either make stuff we like or don't bring it out. These pretty boy leads need to GTFO for a start!

I know what they're trying to do. "Western power FTW!" that's the tactic their taking. Wada should not have opened his mouth.
STFU YOU FUCKING FANBOY CUNT

Now.

The only reason you're crying is because your game sucks balls according to the west.

Now, just because they add a J to an RPG, doesn't mean they're battering it, it probably means

1) That it might suit your tastes more if you like the Japanese style
2) Some people might only buy RPG's from a Japanese company as they're reputation is high.

Stop being a whiny bitch and cut your wrists ffs.
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SE made one game that people don't like, so they're going to stop selling games abroad altogether?

And how the fuck did X-2 get more than VIII?
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Fuck the scores of past FF games, that was before the current industry situation. Had The Last Remant come out with JRPGs still being the popular form of RPG then the scores would be higher. Western reviewrs are kncoking The Last Remnant in a way to basically say to SQEX that their shit is not liked anymore so either make stuff we like or don't bring it out. These pretty boy leads need to GTFO for a start!

I know what they're trying to do. "Western power FTW!" that's the tactic their taking. Wada should not have opened his mouth.
No it wouldn't have gotten a better score. IT WOULD STILL GET THE SAME FUCKING OPINION BECAUSE IT'S A RUSHED GAME WITH ISSUES.
Of course its only the Western reviewers. Because apparently... i heard we are being genre racist.

Brb gna go leech on some of that fucking Western Power tactic talk you where just spitting out of your mouth.
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If the game was amazing and every site happened to be racists then it would sell well anyway and you wouldn't see pretty much everyone on forums moaning about the tech issues in TLR.

Yeah, and that's a pretty big factor, and things like framerate drops and texture pop in really annoy some people. Framedrops really fuck me off personally, it wouldn't ruin a game but it would annoy the hell out of me which is not what I want since I play games to have fun
Well people are buying The Last Remant even though it has low scores and liking the game so that says something, clearly. There are a few gamers that are complaining about the technical issues but others say it's not so bad and can get past it and it doesn't totally destroy their gaming experience.

Anyway, so you don't like frame rate drops in games? That sucks, you must have been pissed when it dropped during Shadow of the Colossus if you've played the game. Which reminds me, EDGE Magazine UK gave that game 8/10 and said the frame rate issue is so bothersome that you just want to give up on the game. OK, now I know shit loads of people across the internet and in real life that were not affected in the least with the frame rate issues in SotC and maybe didn't even notice them. These western reviewers are just tech whores.

In The Last Remnant's case they are using technical issues it as an excuse to give the game an average rating. Can you image Shadow of the Colossus getting 6/10 because of frame rate problems? Oh Lawd...
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Of course technical issues are an excuse to give a poor rating.
THEY AFFECT THE GAMER AND THEIR EXPERIENCE. dumbfuck.
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Well people are buying The Last Remant even though it has low scores and liking the game so that says something, clearly. There are a few gamers that are complaining about the technical issues but others say it's not so bad and can get past it and it doesn't totally destroy their gaming experience.

Anyway, so you don't like frame rate drops in games? That sucks, you must have been pissed when it dropped during Shadow of the Colossus if you've played the game. Which reminds me, EDGE Magazine UK gave that game 8/10 and said the frame rate issue is so bothersome that you just want to give up on the game. OK, now I know shit loads of people across the internet and in real life that were not affected in the least with the frame rate issues in SotC and maybe didn't even notice them. These western reviewers are just tech whores.

In The Last Remnant's case they are using technical issues it as an excuse to give the game an average rating. Can you image Shadow of the Colossus getting 6/10 because of frame rate problems? Oh Lawd...
OMFG!! You annoy me so much

SOTC - 2006 for the Playstation 2

LR - 2008 for the Xbox 360

This is a new fucking age of gaming on NEXT GENERATION CONSOLES.

DO YOU SEE WHAT BULLSHIT YOU SPEW?
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SE made one game that people don't like, so they're going to stop selling games abroad altogether?
That's not exactly the point I'm making. You heard how they are opening an internal LA studio and are decking it out with western developers, right?

They are doing it as their shit doesn't sell here, even with good reviews. Only their main series FF and KH games sell in the west. What I see happening is JRPGs will continue to be relesed here but this new LA studio and the new IP their making will be advertised more and promoted in the west while the other JRPGs will just be released with no fanfare to a niche western fanbase.

They are throwing in the towel on their own work and instead giving in to the mass western market as they know the mass wetern market don't like their shit so they have to conform and make shit the mass wetern market will buy.
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SOTC - 2006 for the Playstation 2

LR - 2008 for the Xbox 360

This is a new fucking age of gaming on NEXT GENERATION CONSOLES.
GTFO! That don't mean shit!

Frame rate problems are frame rate problems no matter the console. If EDGE was pissed at it in SotC then it can be compared to how people are pissed with it in The Last Remnant. They're just tech whores and you're one of them.
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