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Thought I'd make a new topic for this because I wanna know what you guys think. According to a few people at Jump Festa they mentioned the protagonists name was "Storm".
I've looked around but no one who actually went to Jump Festa has commented on it nor have any big gaming sites like IGN but that hasnt stopped people adding it to wikipedia without a source though. I personally hope it isn't Storm because...Lightning..Storm... that would hurt to say. I dont think it fits his personality either and it would just remind me of X-Men.
And your problem is? I mean c'mon, there's Locke of FFVI, Cloud of FFVII (which I named to Eric). Squall of FFVIII, Zidane of FFIX, Tidus of FFX, multi classes of FFXI (there was NO main character), and Vaan (of FFXII).
And I didn't even have any problems with the name. Obviously a FF player hater has to come up with a topic like this. And in a gist, if that's what you heard from the JUMP festa. Then his name is Storm.
Why do you even care what names Square Enix gives the main characters. It's just an RPG game. It's nothing so that you can criticize Square Enix all the time. Besides you're just a mere fan that enjoys the game and it's storyline -- rather it's mostly Square Enix that does the most (if not all) the work. You've gotta give them at least some credit.
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Theres a difference between hating the entire FF series and not thinking a name suits someone. I just would have thought it would have been something a little more imaginative as it looks like a much more deep game. Fair enough if it is Storm, It's just the initial thought, same feeling I had with Lightning but thats grown on me and now we've found out thats only her code name.
I didn't personally hear his name was Storm. It's a rumor which apparently started at Jump Festa but noone else who went has mentioned it so it doesn't seem very likely at the moment and I would like at least some sufficent proof like the screenshots we had with "Lightning" in at E3 before we knew her name. I think the names in the previous games are fine, it just seems like they're stretching for names to do with weather in this compilation so far. I'm not critisising Square-Enix at all. They do some fine work on their games. Can you honestly say you like every single little part of each game? You must have a reason to have a favourite.
Anyway I'm sorry if you think I'm and FF hater. I'll remember that the next time I set up a Final Fantasy site.
Obviously a FF player hater has to come up with a topic like this. And in a gist, if that's what you heard from the JUMP festa. Then his name is Storm.
Thats right, you genius An FF player hater (wtf why would you play a game if you hate it?) runs an FF forum.
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Why do you even care what names Square Enix gives the main characters. It's just an RPG game. It's nothing so that you can criticize Square Enix all the time. Besides you're just a mere fan that enjoys the game and it's storyline -- rather it's mostly Square Enix that does the most (if not all) the work. You've gotta give them at least some credit.
Why are you getting in such a rage over the name? You seem to be more effected by it than Kitmitsu. Storm is a shit unoriginal name. Id expect it from Xmen but Square can do better than that. Also, re-read his post, he said it was mentioned by there wasn't a source. That doesn't make it fact.
Well I don't like the name Storm as well. First of all since I've alreday heard it from X-men it sounds like a chicks name to me. Second I personaly don't think it suits him at all. Third and the most obvious one, like a few have said its completly unoriginal.
And yes I will whine about the name becuase I don't like it, it might just be sombody's name in an RPG but as fan's it's our job to give criticism.
...I think it's really too early to speculate or disagree with the character's name. It's really too early to do anything really - even the plot is too basic to come to any conclusions. If he has a name, there must be a reason for it - whether it be Storm, or anything else. The character probably wasn't created for the name, but rather, the name created for the character.
For example, if FF7 just came out, as well as the main character's name being Cloud, I'm sure the same situation would result. Why the name Cloud Strife? After playing the game after a while, then we can realize why the creators would choose such a strange name.
The only thing we can do right now, really, is wait for more media and information to come out, and go like: "WHEE! The Trailer is so PRETEE!"
Yah i kinda agree, way to early to say anything, its probably just a rumor. It just that we dont have much to talk about versus so any little information we get we start to make up theroies and pick at ever detail.
And even though i dont like the name Storm and god forbid that it really was his name, i can live with it and in my head i can name him wat ever i want.
And your problem is? I mean c'mon, there's Locke of FFVI, Cloud of FFVII (which I named to Eric). Squall of FFVIII, Zidane of FFIX, Tidus of FFX, multi classes of FFXI (there was NO main character), and Vaan (of FFXII).
Oh god time for another FFXI moment presented by Desi.
Go to the character creation screen: choose your race, face, face type, size, and starting job, enter name, then server. See where you enter the name? That's the main character. So when I play it is Desiderus that is the main character. Desiderus is the one that stopped the Zilartian princes from destroying the Vana'diel just so they can get to back into Paradise. Jaredfromsubway's name isn't said in my mission log, Yoki's name isn't called the savior, it is Desiderus.
Now I do think the names they use in FF games are pretty whack. Cloud, Shadow, Yang, etc. The characters themselves may be interesting and even cool but that doesn't keep their names from being any less unoriginal and corny.
I'd have to disagree with you, Desi, on FF characters' names being unoriginal and corny. Here are two arguments to support my stand that they are original, and not corny ;p
1) Type their names in Google, or the Image Search for Google, and see what pops up. For the majority, the characters are what pop up, rather than what their names literally mean. For example, if you were to type in Cloud, you would find Cloud of FF7 rather than an actual floofy cloud. How does that prove that the name isn't unoriginal and corny? The very fact that the character appears first emphasizes that his name stands for his character, and so people may think of this character when they hear of the word "Cloud".
2) Take it to a more personal perspective. For example, I have a friend named John. However, the name John, is probably one of the most common names in the entire world! Despite that, when I hear the name John, I automatically think of my friend. In seeing this, the names of FF characters also carry a similarity in that their names stand for who they are. People who hear their names may think instantly of what the names stand for - the characters.
Perhaps you were implying that their names were corny and unoriginal because the word that is the root of them was already heard of before - like Cloud, Squall, Barret, etc. I guess in a sense, you are right in that. But, the names were created by creators who are part of our universe - they take inspiration from our worlds' cultures and societies. They still want the player to connect to the character, and so I think using "unoriginal" and "corny" names help in that effect.
Being able to think of that character when the name is said doesn't keep it from being in a way unoriginal and definitely corny. I see Cloud's everyday so the name comes off as unoriginal because it is nothing new to me or anyone with eyesight that isn't locked in a basement. It isn't some name I haven't heard a million times before. People may think of Cloud when you mention it but that doesn't mean it is a good/original/not corny name. People brought Paris Hilton's CD does that make it good? Not really.
Now you could say they are names you are going to remember for being more simple and/or common but that is far form making them anymore original then a guy named Pancake. Desiderus for instance shares the name of a English activist(and write) during the Elisabethian age. The first and third link leads to my character or my youtube profile....even though if you add a "i" between the r and u it nets you the guy first.
I think it's impossible for something to be completely original - we live a society, and society involves working together and influencing each other. We name things for what they are, not just randomly for the sake of originality. Therefore, in saying original, names can be original only if they're gibberish, and that doesn't connect to us in any way at all - there's no purpose in doing that.
The characters in Final Fantasy were given a name for who they are - they weren't born and given a random name, but rather a name that alludes to their experiences, their personality, etc. Everyone's name is for that reason - my parents named me for what they hoped they would find in me.
For example, the name Jesus is revered today as holy - he is the son of God, he is God, he is in heaven but present on Earth (for Christians). Despite that, his name was frequently used during his time period. However, when we hear of that name, we think of him - a person of divine and human nature. This example proves that although the name may not be a first, and definitely not original since it was used so often during his time period, it does have a special meaning and allusion behind it.
I'll respect that you have different opinions, but I'm just trying to express a perspective that is probably what the creators of Final Fantasy had in mind.
Yeah I'm not saying the names aren't some of the first things that come to my mind it's just that they don't feel very "fresh". I'm not claiming their impact just they aren't names that have any "Wow, I have never heard that". Those are few and far between mainly pointing to main characters.
I think that it's only a rumour as well, I mean we shouldn't believe in every rumour that appears in a site. When they said that her name was lightning, I thought, come on of all the names in the world you chose this; but then they said that it was only a code name for her and that was somehow better, in my opinion. I wouldn't believe it either if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes in the trailer.
Actually I think that we shouldn't be complaining because Square rarely makes a bad game, or? Let's just be patient and see what will be revealed next.
As for the names of the characters, I think that Square knows what they are doing. I read in a magazine that all their previous ff games were almost the same, the only difference were the characters, stories etc. Now they want to make something new and their gist is the crystal. That's why it's called the Fabula Nova Crystallis; and I think that the next ff games, from ff13 and on will be unlike all others. Ps3 is a very strong console, so they can really accentuate the world of ff.
Actually I think that we shouldn't be complaining because Square rarely makes a bad game, or? Let's just be patient and see what will be revealed next.
As for the names of the characters, I think that Square knows what they are doing. I read in a magazine that all their previous ff games were almost the same, the only difference were the characters, stories etc.
Then your magazine was misinformed.
And saying Square rarely makes a bad game is a laugh.
edit: haha said "your story". added rarely. My sentences are failures.
I think that it's only a rumour as well, I mean we shouldn't believe in every rumour that appears in a site. When they said that her name was lightning, I thought, come on of all the names in the world you chose this; but then they said that it was only a code name for her and that was somehow better, in my opinion. I wouldn't believe it either if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes in the trailer.
Actually I think that we shouldn't be complaining because Square rarely makes a bad game, or? Let's just be patient and see what will be revealed next.
As for the names of the characters, I think that Square knows what they are doing. I read in a magazine that all their previous ff games were almost the same, the only difference were the characters, stories etc. Now they want to make something new and their gist is the crystal. That's why it's called the Fabula Nova Crystallis; and I think that the next ff games, from ff13 and on will be unlike all others. Ps3 is a very strong console, so they can really accentuate the world of ff.
What do you mean by previous games? I - XII? O_o...You think FF1 - 12 are all the same?
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the only difference were the characters, stories etc.
A different story in a different world about a different character is quite a dramatic change xD How can they be the same but have those differences? It doesnt make sense O_o
I personally dont think that Storm is that bad of a name. At least it aint sissy like CLoud's name and it prolly will have a meaning behind why He's called Storm anyways
To Dante: I think Meia is right in that foundationally the Final Fantasy games are in essence the same, with only switches in actual content - the story, the characters, the situations, the universe. However, foundationally, they are the same. That's what ties them together in a same series. Take a look at "Final Fantasy" on wikipedia.com: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy.
Perhaps Nomura is hinting that the FFXIII will be a large change from the previous Final Fantasies because of the foundational change - something unlike any other Final Fantasy.
What do you mean by previous games? I - XII? O_o...You think FF1 - 12 are all the same?
A different story in a different world about a different character is quite a dramatic change xD How can they be the same but have those differences? It doesnt make sense O_o
don't forget the change in battle systems and stat systems.
Saying they are the same when the Final Fantasy series itself represents change over something like Dragon Quest(except IX) for example.
Lets use battle systems for example:
FF1: turn-based with class system and class evolution
FF2: Turn-based. Stats upgrade with use ex. more you attack higher str gets and more magic you cast more mp you get.
FF3: A bigger class system, adding tons of new classes with the ability to switch.
FF4: Introduction of the Active time battle system. Characters have classes which you can't change. First time you didn't have to buy magic and just achieved as you leveled.
FF5: Class system returned. This time you can in a D&D sense, multi-class you characters to have the traits/abilities of more then one class.
FF6: Characters have individual skills but not so much as a class. Magic is learned by equiping espers and learning the spells they know. You can mix and match your espers.
FF7: Materia system is the new thing. You equip materia which work like magic but your stats are normally lowered. Materia does everything from death blows to enemy skills(blue magic). Limit breaks are also added to have personal flair for each character.
FF8: The GF system is the new "all in one" system. Guardian Forces are equpied on a character to allow the use of magic, items, and abilities in battle. Magic isn't brought or learned but actually drawn from foes and items. GF's also allowed you to increase the stats of your characters by junctioning magic to your stats such as str or vit. Limit breaks open up at low half or aid of magic, i like to call it "Desperation".
FF9: Your eqiupment worked like espers in FF6 to put it short. You equip a piece of gear and the skills on that piece would be learned over time. Limits are called Trance and last a certain period of time.
FF10: Goes back to the turn-based system but with the feature of pushing back or losing turns with actions. The Spere Grid is introduced to let you shape a character how you want to some extent. Summons now fight alongside you instead of just attacking and leave. Limits are called Overdrive.
FF11: Online. Return of the job system which this time allows for easier multi-classing by placing your subjob at a level half of your main ex. 50 Dark Knight with 25 Warrior subjob. Battles are in fact the ATB system with the ability to move. Battles are no longer random and every ability and spell has a timer before you can reuse them and magic has a casting time as well. Since battles weren't random, there had to be a way to get into them without choice. Monsters have the ability to help out a fellow of the same species and attack your character based on the difference in levels(other popular ways of ambush is making sound, being seen, or having low hp). Limits are called Weaponskills and 2-hour Abilites.
FF12: The renamed ATB system is called the Active Dimension System. Using a lot of the similar points in FF11 this changes it up with the addition of gambits. Gambits allow for the characters to perform actives to counter other actions without being told. 12 also has the lincense grid which allow for totally unique characters with no actual downsides other then espers being tied only to one character. Limits are called Myst Quickennings now.
Similar in enemies, weapons, and spells yes.
note: FF6 was said to have a form of limit breaks that only activated when health was low. I can not remember if that is true or not.
very...intresting topic...personally i heard from people or where ever his name was nacht (some other random FFVXIII fan site). storm in the other hand...bothers me =/. Maybe Arashi instead it still means storm/tempest but it sounds more better...and still the same meaning
Zeta_Stryker ur annyoing go punch a wall or something...whats ur deal? u sound like a kid.
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He's named Storm?
that would hurt to say. I dont think it fits his personality either and it would just remind me of X-Men.
An FF player hater (wtf why would you play a game if you hate it?) runs an FF forum.
Storm is a shit unoriginal name. Id expect it from Xmen but Square can do better than that. Also, re-read his post, he said it was mentioned by there wasn't a source. That doesn't make it fact.
