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Old Oct 21 2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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Old Oct 21 2008, 10:44 AM   #2
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Old Oct 21 2008, 02:17 PM   #3
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Pat Condell does actually seem to be a pretty level headed atheist who comes from a religious background. It only seems to be when people throw scriptures at him and tell him he's going to hell when he actually starts to take the piss.
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Old Oct 21 2008, 03:20 PM   #4
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I think he's like a lot of us tbh, he just plain hates religon and what it represents, and especially what it has represented over the past centuries which is child abuse and wars.
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Old Oct 21 2008, 03:28 PM   #5
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I dont hate religion, I just hate when people try to push their beliefs onto someone like me who doesn't give a fuck. People can believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't involve me. I also hate when they try to force you to respect a religion that creates such madness in countries like Saudi

I liked his car analogy. If someone tries to sell you a car and you don't want it, then they come back and try to sell you it again the next day then you still don't give a shit about their stupid car, but they keep wanting you to buy it anyway
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Old Oct 21 2008, 03:43 PM   #6
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Couldn't have put it any better. Spot on.
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Old Oct 21 2008, 03:43 PM   #7
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I dont hate religion, I just hate when people try to push their beliefs onto someone like me who doesn't give a fuck. People can believe whatever they want as long as it doesn't involve me. I also hate when they try to force you to respect a religion that creates such madness in countries like Saudi

I liked his car analogy. If someone tries to sell you a car and you don't want it, then they come back and try to sell you it again the next day then you still don't give a shit about their stupid car, but they keep wanting you to buy it anyway
That's the problem though, even religons that shouldn't effect you still do. All this money which goes to the christian church in England could go to much better purposes.

I just can't think of one good thing religon brings apart from people who annoy me. Every single fucking christian I know annoys me in some way or another, every single one XD
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Old Oct 21 2008, 05:00 PM   #8
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That's the problem though, even religons that shouldn't effect you still do. All this money which goes to the christian church in England could go to much better purposes.

I just can't think of one good thing religon brings apart from people who annoy me. Every single fucking christian I know annoys me in some way or another, every single one XD
Well, I can't possibly annoy you.

I am with Neal on this one. Even though I have religion, I hate it when I see other people of any religion trying to push it off on others. In a way if you push it off on them it its not the "personal revelation" that it is supposed to be. Its more like an agreement for that person to fuck off.

If anything, religion does bring people together and (sometimes) give them hope, even if it is false (depends on your point of view though). So, kudos to it for that. Particularly when the US economy is toasted.

EDIT: And if you are so obsessed and devoted to your religion in such a way to not even consider everyone else's opinion, your a idiot anyway.

I also love it when half of the people at my school get confronted by Atheists which totally annihilate their religion and their response is "Well, your still going to burn in hell." Thats just pathetic.
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Old Oct 21 2008, 05:09 PM   #9
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roffle.

'whenever im exposed to religion I feel dirty'

this is orgasmicly refreshing to hear .I love circular belief systems.Morons who disprove of anything which doesnt fit in with their beliefs.Where all pretty much fucked to an eternity of hell and satanic rape.gtfo.
I don't care if God tells people to suffer the little children, or feed the poor. If that's the only reason someones got for doing those things, you're a shitty person.
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Old Oct 21 2008, 06:28 PM   #10
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If anything, religion does bring people together
No it seperates them. Always has and always will. Yes it may not have been intended to, or it may have who knows, but people find reasons to hate each other and 9 times out of 10 it's because "the bible tells them to".

Whether or not the bible was meant to cause hate to certain groups, I don't know, but it certainly has turned out that way.
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Old Oct 21 2008, 07:59 PM   #11
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No it seperates them. Always has and always will. Yes it may not have been intended to, or it may have who knows, but people find reasons to hate each other and 9 times out of 10 it's because "the bible tells them to".
It's called faith. I don't understand why having it is so looked down upon

From experience I can say that Religion can do both, but I have seen a GREAT many people brought closer together, and a lead more joyful lives because of it.


The Bible wasn't made to please everybody and I can understand where that would be troubling.I'm Christian and it makes me grow weary to see others doing ridiculous things in the name of God. Misinterpretation happens all the time

I don't need someone to be Christian to be my friend, and alot of my friends tell me the reason they disapprove of the idea is because they don't like the idea of something bigger than they are, and they're having too much fun to be limited by "rules and regulations"

I've never "forced my believes" on anyone but all my friends are perfectly aware of where I stand and why. I'm not here to judge people so I don't waist my time doing so.
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It's called faith. I don't understand why having it is so looked down upon

From experience I can say that Religion can do both, but I have seen a GREAT many people brought closer together, and a lead more joyful lives because of it.


The Bible wasn't made to please everybody and I can understand where that would be troubling.I'm Christian and it makes me grow weary to see others doing ridiculous things in the name of God. Misinterpretation happens all the time

I don't need someone to be Christian to be my friend, and alot of my friends tell me the reason they disapprove of the idea is because they don't like the idea of something bigger than they are, and they're having too much fun to be limited by "rules and regulations"

I've never "forced my believes" on anyone but all my friends are perfectly aware of where I stand and why. I'm not here to judge people so I don't waist my time doing so.
I'm not judging you. I'm simply saying Religon is a farce, something to control the population in terms of law, war, morales and money. There's just as much proof bullshit like scientology existed than that of christianity

And how muich proof is that?

I don't think the people you talk to can be all there if they don't like the idea of something bigger than them. That's really quite pathetic. Of course there's thing out there bigger than us. ask them if they've ever heard of the universe.

And yes it may bring people together, people who aren't strong enough to come to terms with the fact that we are human and there's no perfect being floating down looking after us all.

And considering you're implying that I'm judging you, is quite ironic since the religous comunity are the most judgemental people on Earth, and that's not deniable.

Brb gay marriage.
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Old Oct 21 2008, 08:12 PM   #13
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It's not the idea of something being "bigger", its the idea that just because a book says something doesn't make it true.
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Ahaha, I think I'm in love <33

Religion's out of date now, in my opinion. Hundreds of years ago, I can understand it being used as a form of law, but we have guns now.

Edit: You know how people now have Jedi religion or whatever, in hundreds of years people might not know it's from a film. Maybe Jesus was a popular play or something
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Old Oct 21 2008, 08:21 PM   #16
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Religion just seems to be an excuse to start a war atm
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Ahaha, I think I'm in love <33

Religion's out of date now, in my opinion. Hundreds of years ago, I can understand it being used as a form of law, but we have guns now.

Edit: You know how people now have Jedi religion or whatever, in hundreds of years people might not know it's from a film. Maybe Jesus was a popular play or something
LMAO, I think we have a perfect edition for SHFL right here XD

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is the best quote ever! XD Awesome.

and yeah it wouldn't suprise me if something like that Jedi religon got big. Not much suprises me with people today.

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Yep It has been for hundreds of years, why stop when they're on a roll
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I'm not judging you. I'm simply saying Religon is a farce, something to control the population in terms of law, war, morales and money. There's just as much proof bullshit like scientology existed than that of christianity

And how muich proof is that?

I don't think the people you talk to can be all there if they don't like the idea of something bigger than them. That's really quite pathetic. Of course there's thing out there bigger than us. ask them if they've ever heard of the universe.

And yes it may bring people together, people who aren't strong enough to come to terms with the fact that we are human and there's no perfect being floating down looking after us all.

And considering you're implying that I'm judging you, is quite ironic since the religous comunity are the most judgemental people on Earth, and that's not deniable.

Brb gay marriage.

??? I wasn't implining that you were judging me, I wasn't even thinking about you (or anyone here) when I typed that. I was just making a statement about myself

I'm not going to argue with you on Gods existance because I know he's there...I guess the same way you know he's not there. Maybe the same way I have faith that he is you have faith that he isn't


And no, Science(if you're going of our worldy ways) supports the bible. Not Scientology. Scientology has no proof of anything
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??? I wasn't implining that you were judging me, I wasn't even thinking about you (or anyone here) when I typed that. I was just making a statement about myself

I'm not going to argue with you on Gods existance because I know he's there...I guess the same way you know he's not there. Maybe the same way I have faith that he is you have faith that he isn't


And no, Science(if you're going of our worldy ways) supports the bible. Not Scientology. Scientology has no proof of anything
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No offense but you are a beautiful example of christianity.

First of all, you have no proof that God exists just like Tom Cruise has no proof Xenu exists. I don't KNOW god isn't there, I don't believe he's there because THERE IS NO PROOF.

People don't need proof that someone isn't there, they need proof that he ISSSS there.
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