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Probably everyone noticed what kind of politics Square has now, lets remake everything, lets sold as many units as we can lets get some money$$$. And although there is nothing wrong about company who try to earn money, I think they slowly destroying FF franchises by making some many of them that even they can't tell which one is which one...Perhaps they should focus on continuing making such good titles as Parasite Eve or Chrono Xenogears, Vagrant Story etc or perhaps they should try to create a totally new game, but in damm serious way(not like these new upcoming Xbox titles), so we could actually say, "look Square starts to producte good dames again, just like back in days"
We can only be hoping because as long as SE can get enough $ from FF titles they probably wont be bothered doing that
Parasite Eve 3 is coming out for PSP and why do the 360 titles not count? I personally don't think they look great but to me it looks like the most original move they've made since Kingdom Hearts...which no, you didn't mention. Final Fantasy remakes are what's funding the new titles and even though I've not bought any, they do it well. It seems to be a new trend to insult Square-Enix for not making new games, even though you've joined a site about a new game they're making. I personally didn't know Square had political alliances, instead assuming they relied on the fact that "remakes + fanjism + ???? = PROFIT" but if they did, they'd be more on the side of the fans than a lot of companies around. In no way am I saying "SQUEENIX IS THE BEST YO!" but at least they're trying to be original with games like The World Ends with You.
I'll be in the other threads with the bright people.
You see, the difference is back in the old days, RPG'S WERE JUST INVENTED. FF ONE.
This topic is pointless.
You can't reinvent something anyway, only make it better. :C
You see, now the games that get praised are the ones who break the "ZOMG, its popular, lets make a copy" cycle. then, whatever breaks that, gets copied, and it repeats endlessly.
So, I will be with all the other people, being intelligent.
You see, the difference is back in the old days, RPG'S WERE JUST INVENTED. FF ONE.
This topic is pointless.
You can't reinvent something anyway, only make it better. :C
You see, now the games that get praised are the ones who break the "ZOMG, its popular, lets make a copy" cycle. then, whatever breaks that, gets copied, and it repeats endlessly.
So, I will be with all the other people, being intelligent.
No, its all about damm innovation, not about cycling, as you mention correctly rpgs been already invated, so you can only present them in new way, since first ff up to this there hasnt been done any major differences, it all that same, squre should actully think of developing new rpgs, totally new and why these xbox does not count, simply because they dont bring anything new. You cant stick to one scheme for too long, you always have to look for new things, history showes that, like how playstation beat sega and nintendo in early 90, or why pc won the battle with amiga in 80-90years, simply because innovation. Look at the rpg history, you probably wont know most of these gamer but maybe, games like ishar, dungeon master, eye of beholder, baldurs gate,gothic, diablo and even ff etc, the list is really long, they were all innovating games, games that brought smth new, these games change the way how u see rpgs, so iam saying no, i dont want recycling, for now its good yet, but its about time squre or someone else will look for other ways. If it would be squre that would be great, they would build their position on game .industry even higher, ,. .and lastly you saying this post is pointless, and who said that? You? one opinion does not make a jugde, you need some arguments to backup ur theory...you really pisst me man now
and why these xbox does not count, simply because they dont bring anything new.
...do others?
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or why pc won the battle with amiga in 80-90years, simply because innovation.
Oh dear god XD The Amiga wasn't just a games platform you realise don't you? The main reason the Amiga failed was because it was incompatible with 90% of the software on the market.
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you probably wont know most of these gamer but maybe
You probably won't know these games? I'm sorry. Are you one of the select few clued in on these top secret titles?
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and lastly you saying this post is pointless, and who said that? You? one opinion does not make a jugde, you need some arguments to backup ur theory...you really pisst me man now
Wouldn't wanna get you "pisst". What's the point in arguing when we already know you're wrong. I'd always give someone the right to an opinion but not one of yours is valid.
I think with certain types of games you just can't make anything innovative. RPG's are called RPG's for a reason, and if you take away that reason then they're not gonna be RPG's anymore. But I do think that RPG's are constantly evolving - I mean, on the PS1 you didn't really get any Action RPG's, but when the PS2 came along you got stuff like Kingdom Hearts and now they're much more common. Then you have the change in that you don't get as many random encounters anymore and you can see the monsters on screen. And from the little I've seen it seems that FFXIII will utilise a system where you queue up commands and watch as they're executed in a stylish and seamless fashion which has never been seen before. But then I'm going on gameplay we've been seeing for the past couple years so it could all be completely different now.
Rade pretty much hit the proverbial nail on the proverbial head. With RPG's theres not a whole lot you can do and with the way games have been developed for each console by Squeenix, its clear that they've innovated the FF brand. How much more innovative do you wanna get? actually being a part of the virtual reality bodily?
No, its all about damm innovation, not about cycling, as you mention correctly rpgs been already invated, so you can only present them in new way, since first ff up to this there hasnt been done any major differences, it all that same, squre should actully think of developing new rpgs, totally new and why these xbox does not count, simply because they dont bring anything new. You cant stick to one scheme for too long, you always have to look for new things, history showes that, like how playstation beat sega and nintendo in early 90, or why pc won the battle with amiga in 80-90years, simply because innovation. Look at the rpg history, you probably wont know most of these gamer but maybe, games like ishar, dungeon master, eye of beholder, baldurs gate,gothic, diablo and even ff etc, the list is really long, they were all innovating games, games that brought smth new, these games change the way how u see rpgs, so iam saying no, i dont want recycling, for now its good yet, but its about time squre or someone else will look for other ways. If it would be squre that would be great, they would build their position on game .industry even higher, ,. .and lastly you saying this post is pointless, and who said that? You? one opinion does not make a jugde, you need some arguments to backup ur theory...you really pisst me man now
IDIOT.
The ones that breaks the mold has innovation. I thought that most people would have understood that and that that was implied, but I suppose I have to be more careful.
You you dumbass. I know most of the RPG's you listed, I own three. So, gtfo and stfu.
SE has let out so many great titles that to this day they are still remembered. Innovation isn't something that comes by easily, You can't expect them to sit down and force themselves to come up with a new Innovative game that they'll have to invest billions on which would be a huge risk because god knows if it would turn out any good and at the same time there are millions of FF & KH fans waiting for new games in the series. It's not only going to effect SE's profits but their main fans are all going to be disappointed knowning that they are ditching the series they are most known for.
If you look at all the FF games from 1 to 12 you can see so many differences, for example the battle system, plots, characters and environments. FF games are always different from one another, so i don't know what you're talking about.
They are making other titles right now aswell so you can't complain, Try them before turning them down.
Yes they are remaking classics and while it's a profit for them it's a plus for the fans too.
Actually I'm glad SE is remaking the classics... the DS ones were so cool. I would like a FFVII remake, but I think it would end too expensive and it would only tell things everyone already know...
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