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Old Aug 05 2008, 12:41 AM   #1
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A console generation usually lasts somewhere between four or five years, with exceptions of course. The Xbox 360 was released in 2005, with the PlayStation 3's release following a year later in 2006.

With that in mind, we're already between two and three years into the current generation of gaming; we're already starting to see the next generation starting to creep upon us. Nintendo have recently announced that they are looking into developing a new, next generation console; whilst Microsoft have been working on the "Xbox 720" for a while now.

Prior to the PlayStation 3's European release, Sony also stated that they'd like to have their next generation console released sometime around 2010. Saying that, the next generation is really starting to close in on us.

Final Fantasy XIII will be coming out in presumabley late 2009, probably 2010 in North America and Europe. So what do you think, will Final Fantasy XIII be the only main series title to hit the current generation of consoles?

Will Final Fantasy XIV be heading to the PS4 or Xbox 720?
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Old Aug 05 2008, 12:49 AM   #2
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So what do you think, will Final Fantasy XIII be the only main series title to hit the current generation of consoles?
If you're excluding Versus XIII when you say that, then no. And even if Sony releases a new console in 2010(which I kinda doubt), they could still produce FF games for the PS3 or 360.
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Old Aug 05 2008, 12:56 AM   #3
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I think your looking into the past a bit too much..Microsoft says they want to extend this Cycle as far as possible, and Sony has a 10 year plan..this doesnt mean they wont be releasing their next console in the meantime tho..but remember, Final Fantasy X didnt release until about as far into the PS3 life cycle as it is now, and yet there was still FFX-2, FFXI and FFXII in additon to a number of other Final Fantasy titles and Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2...Square took on alot of projects and the pickings have been slim, but ist all about to change very soon, Games are going to start rolling out, so i would expect that the next main installment will be this gen and i would expect to have it announced perhaps in 2010..i wouldnt expect the next generation to begin yet..maybe around 2012 or 2013 the next gen consoles will be announced, but they still wont launch until later. Plenty of time to release an addtional 2 titles
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Yeah, I don't really count Final Fantasy Versus XIII as a main series title. I count it as part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis compilation, only XIII is a main series title imo.

I'm a little doubtful that Sony will release a new console in 2010, but after the PS3's poor launch back in 2007; they said that it was their plan. Considering sales are picking up, that plan has most likely been thrown out of the window.

I don't see why Square Enix would do that though, that would be like Square Enix deciding to release Final Fantasy XIII on the PS2 during the current generation.
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I don't see why Square Enix would do that though, that would be like Square Enix deciding to release Final Fantasy XIII on the PS2 during the current generation.

except that's exactly what they were going to do...FFXIII was being developed for the PS2 originally with complete knowledge that the 360 was releasing very soon and the PS3 soon after that
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except that's exactly what they were going to do...FFXIII was being developed for the PS2 originally with complete knowledge that the 360 was releasing very soon and the PS3 soon after that
I know that, but in the end Square Enix did chose to make the jump to the PlayStation 3. At that stage in the console market, it was impossible to predict the PlayStation 3's success; I think that everyone - including Square Enix and Sony believed that the console would share in the PS2's glory.

Due to this, I don't even think that Square Enix took a FFXIII/Xbox 360 release into account. At that point in time, it was most likely a "Why break the habit of a lifetime?" situation.
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Old Aug 05 2008, 01:17 AM   #7
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Yes they made the jump to PS3..but it doesnt negate the fact that they started development on PS2 despite knowing the next gen was right around the corner..that shows that it was the advent of possibilites on next gen hardware that led them to move development over, and not the desire to do so. They were obviously just as content in making it for PS2 with the experience they had and raking in the cash from the humongous install base.
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Old Aug 05 2008, 01:37 AM   #8
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Versus isn't the Core game. Not a spin-off either. XIII is the core game. Total BS on the Game Spot article (That's not happening). I think there will be only 2.. XIII and XIV for the PS3.. or they could just continue developing games for PS3 even after PS4 is out.
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i honestly think the ps3 will be around for a while longer. even if the xbox "720" comes out, it will still probably only be on par with the ps3's hardware anyway. no one need more that 1080p and 7 processors, at least for few more years(6?).
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i honestly think the ps3 will be around for a while longer. even if the xbox "720" comes out, it will still probably only be on par with the ps3's hardware anyway. no one need more that 1080p and 7 processors, at least for few more years(6?).

you underestimate the Speed in which technology advances..if a new Gen Xbox were to be released withing the next 2 years, it would no doubt be far more powerful than the PS3.
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you underestimate the Speed in which technology advances..if a new Gen Xbox were to be released withing the next 2 years, it would no doubt be far more powerful than the PS3.
"IF" microsoft decides to spend as much time and money as Sony did when creating the ps3. but i also think we are going to be coming up on a plateau soon. i mean how much better can games or consoles get, without starting a new era of gaming. ie virtual or something like it.
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"IF" microsoft decides to spend as much time and money as Sony did when creating the ps3. but i also think we are going to be coming up on a plateau soon. i mean how much better can games or consoles get, without starting a new era of gaming. ie virtual or something like it.

you overestimate the power of the PS3..the PS3 has 2 main factors that put it ahead of the 360, that's Blu Ray, and a standard Hard Drive..other than that, the 2 consoles are comporable in power..Today, it really wouldnt take much from Microsoft to create a console that is far more powerful than the PS3. I could Build a PC right now that could trounce the PS3 in every way. Microsoft could decide to be really ambitious and create a monster machine, they wont ofcourse, they are more interesting in creating something a little bit more short term and profitable.
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you overestimate the power of the PS3..the PS3 has 2 main factors that put it ahead of the 360, that's Blu Ray, and a standard Hard Drive..other than that, the 2 consoles are comporable in power..Today, it really wouldnt take much from Microsoft to create a console that is far more powerful than the PS3. I could Build a PC right now that could trounce the PS3 in every way. Microsoft could decide to be really ambitious and create a monster machine, they wont ofcourse, they are more interesting in creating something a little bit more short term and profitable.
first off, if you look at everything based off of "i could make my pc way better than a console", than its always gonna be better. even if a next gen comes out right now, in a couple months you could make a better pc.
I don't like to battle facts about consoles, but doesn't the cell processor and all its bandwidth make it a better system for future games? like ones of greater gameplay and graphics than the ones we have now.

im not trying to be a fanboy. i actually own a 360. don't like it much though.
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i recon the next xbox is going to be the one dominating in first place. however i don't really know what to expect from sony anymore since they didn't do the best this gen. Ofcourse i could always be surprised but i recon i'll be getting the next xbox.

The ps3's cell processor is better. But i'm sure if they released a new xbox anytime soon it will be superior to the ps3.

FFvs13 isn't a core game? Why because it's called "versus 13" or because It's being created by Nomura? Core or not i'm simply happy with just having the 2 ff13 games for this gen, even though i recon there will be a ff14.
PS i actually recon vs13 looks more of a core FF than FF13.
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first off, if you look at everything based off of "i could make my pc way better than a console", than its always gonna be better. even if a next gen comes out right now, in a couple months you could make a better pc.
I don't like to battle facts about consoles, but doesn't the cell processor and all its bandwidth make it a better system for future games? like ones of greater gameplay and graphics than the ones we have now.

im not trying to be a fanboy. i actually own a 360. don't like it much though.

im certainly not trying to battle you tho, but like i said, If microsoft were to make a new console now, it would be beyond the PS3, thats really the only point i was trying to make. and im shure you got that.

as for the PS3, its advantage is Blu-ray, like i said. The hardware itself is not in fact superior to the 360, but its ability to read Blu Ray discs is what gives it the capability to do things that would be more difficult than worth on the 360..but keep in mind, the most powerful console is not guaranteed to be the winner of the console war, just look at the last gen..the xbox was FAR more powerful and capable than the PS2, yet that meant absolutely nothing.
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okay. i guess we could stare off into the distance at wii as well.
i only thought that the processor and graphics "were" actually better. but then again, i don't exactly know whats in the 360. also the fact of 1080p vs 720p, but it doesn't make a seeable diff unless you have a 60+ inch tv.

is there any chance you have the info on the hardware of these two.
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i recon the next xbox is going to be the one dominating in first place. however i don't really know what to expect from sony anymore since they didn't do the best this gen. Ofcourse i could always be surprised but i recon i'll be getting the next xbox.

The ps3's cell processor is better. But i'm sure if they released a new xbox anytime soon it will be superior to the ps3.

FFvs13 isn't a core game? Why because it's called "versus 13" or because It's being created by Nomura? Core or not i'm simply happy with just having the 2 ff13 games for this gen, even though i recon there will be a ff14.
PS i actually recon vs13 looks more of a core FF than FF13.
PS3's still got lots of time. It's only it's 2nd year.

Versus isn't the Core game but it's not a spin-off either. It's just a game in FNC. XIII is the Core game but yeah the 2 games are fine this gen.
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okay. i guess we could stare off into the distance at wii as well.
i only thought that the processor and graphics "were" actually better. but then again, i don't exactly know whats in the 360. also the fact of 1080p vs 720p, but it doesn't make a seeable diff unless you have a 60+ inch tv.

is there any chance you have the info on the hardware of these two.
perhaps you dont know this, but both the PS3 and the 360 are capable of 1080P display and both have HDMI ports.

Ill put it as simply as possible..The PS3 is very different from the norm, the 360 is very much the norm..If you were to dedicate yourself to the PS3 and make something designed specifically for it, you could create something of grander scale..To do the same on 360 would require slight sacrifice. However, such "Scale" is still beyond the ambitions of most developers who only have a finite amount of time to actually make a game, so they find the 360 is more than capable for them. This leads into my second interpretation. The PS3 would require much more hard work and dedication to do something that would be fairly easy in comparison on 360. thats really the main jist of it.

This guy is an expert on this, just watch the interview, he discusses the consoles and their differences

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169112

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okay, i see what you get at, and agree.
only one thing that i have to say that will hopefully keep your mind open. he obviously likes programing a game for 360 more. which means he is used to and is a master in c++ and variations of it. who wouldn't like the "normal" structure better if they know it so well.
now what about the plp who have spent these past couple years mastering the programing(name?) of ps3. i don't have an article or video, i read somewhere that those guys like the ps3 format better, it just took time to learn and get used to.

i do understand what you were saying, and agree. but there is always another side to a story.
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okay, i see what you get at, and agree.
only one thing that i have to say that will hopefully keep your mind open. he obviously likes programing a game for 360 more. which means he is used to and is a master in c++ and variations of it. who wouldn't like the "normal" structure better if they know it so well.
now what about the plp who have spent these past couple years mastering the programing(name?) of ps3. i don't have an article or video, i read somewhere that those guys like the ps3 format better, it just took time to learn and get used to.

i do understand what you were saying, and agree. but there is always another side to a story.

certainly, and i am shurely not one to look at things through only one eye...like i said

"If you were to dedicate yourself to the PS3 and make something designed specifically for it, you could create something of grander scale..To do the same on 360 would require slight sacrifice"

it stands to reason that if you were to create a game specifically for one hardware, you could take into account its advantages and do things that you may not have been able to do on other hardware..and thats true for people working on both 360 and ps3, both have advantages and disadvantages...people just need to stop arguing over which is better, and just enjoy their games
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