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Old May 21 2008, 09:02 AM   #1
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But I was wondering, why is it there are so many people depressed nowadays?
I mean I get depressed at times but I mean I have a rough life and shit and I'm still nice and upity and all....I guess it depends on the person....I havent had a gf in years and I know this current girl I like will find someone eventually but in the end all I want is for her to be happy even if it means for me to be heartbroken...My heart is failing and yet I still work my ass off to make others happy....then when I hear about others who are constantly depressed for (what I think) silly reasons I wonder what keeps ME going and staying happy even though nothing good seems to be happening right now....

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Old May 21 2008, 10:23 AM   #2
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I was hugely depressed when I kind of had a break up fdsada. I got well emo and emotional, it wasn't like me at all. I like a lot of people nowadays do it for attention, cos theyre whores but ja it's ghey.

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My heart is failing and yet I still work my ass off to make others happy....then when I hear about others who are constantly depressed for (what I think) silly reasons I wonder what keeps ME going and staying happy even though nothing good seems to be happening right now....

lol I hate bitchez that moan about their life when it's perfectly fine, and in a certain case, far better than I've ever had.

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but in the end all I want is for her to be happy even if it means for me to be heartbroken

I tried that but then gave in a selfishly wanted him for myself and... things have turned out really really well
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Old May 21 2008, 06:37 PM   #3
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I agree with Nero, lots of people are looking for attention. I mean I don't mean to seem insensitive, but in particular one of my friends whenever it seems that we aren't talking to her she will start to talk about how depressed she feels and how no one likes her. I look at it as a little pathetic but I feel bad sometimes. I think depression is connected with insecurity, or that's a lot of the reasons you might start to feel depressed. Especially as a teenager. There are plenty of times that I feel depressed but I think what would be worse would be informing everyone about it. If I become depressed for one reason or another I pretty much keep things to myself. The last thing I want to do is bring someone else's day down. I don't know I could be wrong becuase everyone is different and everyone deals with things like this in different ways.
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Old May 21 2008, 07:58 PM   #4
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It's the people who think they dont have much going for them so they become all fake depressed. And you start to realize people notice you. And thats the beggining of an attention whores life cycle. I used to think life was shit, and had depressed moments but I never showed it in puplic (I wasnt trying to be macho just didnt want attention). And yah, no one who is depressed needs to show it, the people who do just want attention
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Old May 22 2008, 08:58 AM   #5
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I think people just became too self aware of them selfs, making people think to much, makes you depressed and can leed to going crasy, plus psychiatrists need work. I lost my job, and for 6months i couldnt get a stupid job, nearly got kicked out of my home, and had to sell alot of stuff to survive does 6months, i sort of locked my self in my house, just didint want to see anyone... my friends were thinking i killed my self hahaha, in the end like in the 5th month, i was so fucked up, i picked up the credit card i was never meant to use, and booked my self 2 week off trip to LA, when i got back, i sorted out my life, its a amazing what a lil time off will do for you. And yes i do agree insecuraty is what makes you look for attention, but there are does who crave attention, its just their way of living, maybe they were not breast fed when they were babys lol
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Old May 22 2008, 02:10 PM   #6
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Well for starters, sometimes it's an illness? I agree some definateely do it because they seek attention. I have a friend who apparently flickers on and off, but she never really shows it and does her best to always stay uplifted. It must be the cigs.

Myself personally I have a really unhealthy bounce from depression to high-egotism, and it's always really drastic. I just kinda deal with it personally, I feel really uncomfortable talking about personal issues with anyone tbh.

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Old May 27 2008, 09:44 PM   #7
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Fast answer to this would be: We live in a shitty world with shitty people.

That said, I know how you feel Elphy. Or rather, I don't, but I have felt similar if not possibly relatable feelings. I have tried countless times, and for some reason, still am, to try and make some people happy, and be there for them. In the end, I get hurt, but only because sometimes, I hope they realise that I am there for them. That certain expectation is what does me in. I don't do it much anymore, but sometimes, it does make me sad that people just don't give a damn.

I'm not quite sure if I'd categorise depression as an illness, it certainly is a state of mind and emotion. Also, there are certain types, if not stages of depression, and I guess although I don't really like it, I'd say a branch off of it is being an attention whore. I like to separate that from the core meaning of depression, and to be honest, depression is a reaction from being treated like shit. Or living with shitty people in a shitty environment. The generous, the kind, the courteous are far and few in between, they're a rare breed now. But we have to treasure those that are rare like the mentioned above diamonds. Diamonds in the rough, they say.

Now, I come across as an asshat probably to a lot of people. And I do get the whole emo lable and stereotype, but I don't care much for it because they are only ignorant and don't understand. Wanna see a real emo, I don't remember what his forum name was but he was one of the most emo p.o.s. I've ever seen, and I'm pretty sure if you cut him he'll bleed emo too, not blood. Anyways, to save myself from going on a tangeant, I don't live for myself. I don't have anything to lose. The only thing that I am alive for now, are my friends. It is my duty to keep them happy and smiling. That's the only reason why I still exist. And knowing that I can keep the people I have as friends happy and being supportive is what makes me happy.

I want you to be happy Elphy. Not the force-a-smile-on-your-face happy that you pull on for the public, but your real smile and laughter. For that, you need to find and prioritize what makes you happy. Focus on it, give it all you got. If you have that something, you will be ten times happier. If anything, your friends here got your back and will cheer you on. You can beat depression, you control it, it doesn't control you.
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Old May 28 2008, 12:20 PM   #8
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I'v witnessed depression as being a negative thing that people use in some sort of attention-seeking callous way.Someone I knew would instantly become 'depressed' if they started to observe that everyone around them was enjoying themselves.They would hang their head endlessly until everyone around them subdued their joy.The only counter was to hold your head up high near them or you would instantly be sucked into their dellibarate action to make you feel like shit.

Anyways maybe just saying 'snap out of it' wont work as these people has inclosed themselves into their own introspective thoughts so deep its impossible to reach them.

Maybe im being narrowminded but I still wouldnt class depression as an illness but I see it as some form of 'weakness' or admission of failure.Forgive me for sounding like a bitch here.

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Old May 28 2008, 12:40 PM   #9
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It's important to make the disctinction between clinical depression and teen angst here. What most have described thus far are examples of the latter, rather than the former.
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Old May 28 2008, 02:16 PM   #10
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I'm no Freud but I think that it could be due to two reasons: many people were actually depressed in the past but its only due to a recent serge of awareness that it can be identified (for example, cancer until quite recently in medical history was known as the "wearing disease" even though, like today, it killed one in three...a scary thought to say the least) OR it could be because there are increasing pressures on humanity as a whole. The romanticised simplistic rural life seems pretty idyllic compared to having mortgages, credit card bills, tax, employment, health-care and after all that, some old-fashioned entertaining fun times to deal with. I think it's just that we're a little out of our basic natural habitat and at times, people are becoming a little too sterile and are forgetting some of the core values that make us human.

Like I said, I'm not too sure about psychology at all and I'm just taking a stab in the dark XD

My friend's dad suffers from depression. He sits in his living room, where he sleeps, eats and constantly watches television - he only ever seems to emerge to go to the toilet. Now he's beginning to turn psychotic...yesterday he smashed up two rooms because his wife forgot to go to Boots' Chemist for him! Poor guy :/
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Old Jul 15 2008, 02:43 AM   #11
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Hey guys, I'm new here. However, I've been visting this website for the past year now, and I've never got the chance to subscribe the forum until now. I've read all the depression comments; and to think that depression is not hurting our society. I mean people that are my age are feeling depression. Don't kept me wrong! I've hit lite depression a couple of times. Today, there are a number of cases of people having depression and would usually lead to suicide. I think more people coming forth with their problems in public in order to get help. However, I don't believe in doctors giving out pills to help people coup with their problems. I think, in my personal opinion, that pills temporarely set aside a person's depression. The only way that would cure your depression is to surround yourself with family and friends that care for about you. It's better to let it all out, then to store it all up inside for a nasty explosion. So, if you have friends or family members that are feeling depressed; let them know that you are here for them. And, just sit with them and hear of what they have to say. That's the cure, that's the solution!
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Old Jul 16 2008, 10:46 AM   #12
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Hey guys, I'm new here. However, I've been visting this website for the past year now, and I've never got the chance to subscribe the forum until now. I've read all the depression comments; and to think that depression is not hurting our society. I mean people that are my age are feeling depression. Don't kept me wrong! I've hit lite depression a couple of times. Today, there are a number of cases of people having depression and would usually lead to suicide. I think more people coming forth with their problems in public in order to get help. However, I don't believe in doctors giving out pills to help people coup with their problems. I think, in my personal opinion, that pills temporarely set aside a person's depression. The only way that would cure your depression is to surround yourself with family and friends that care for about you. It's better to let it all out, then to store it all up inside for a nasty explosion. So, if you have friends or family members that are feeling depressed; let them know that you are here for them. And, just sit with them and hear of what they have to say. That's the cure, that's the solution!
I agree with you to a degree.I agree that depression doesnt hurt our society but it deters progress in it in a way.
I think that a majority of people who are depressed rarely admit that they have serious problems and so they dont seek help. I agree that pills deter the depression on the surface but will never fix deep rooted psychological issues if the depression is serious.

However I dont really agree that surrounding yourself with family and friends help-as usually the depressed doesnt seek these things and becomes cynical towards it prefering to shun people who they suppose are meddling in their lives.
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Old Jul 16 2008, 04:50 PM   #13
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Ok. Depression caused by a breakup, losing a job, similar circumstances to that? That's grief. I'm not trying to detract from it, but it is something that gets easier.

I was diagnosed with clinical depression at the age of 14. I can't say I was surprised. Depression, real depression, is an illness. A lot of the time I'm fine, quite erudite, I have a circle of good friends I play in bands with and actively socialise. However, sometime I'm literally floored by a crushing weight on my mind. I call it the Black Dog, and when that fucker is watching me I can't do anything

Like an idiot, I refuse SSRI's, due to some misplaced sense of self-worth(probably due to me being a proper Satanist for quite some time), but anyone who genuinely feels low should always remember there is help available, be it counselling, medication or just PMing a friendly forum buffoon like me.

To all those 'poser-depressives' who scratch their arms and wear shortsleeve MCR tops: I understand you want attention, fine, just find it another way. Please?

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idiot, I refuse SSRI's, due to some misplaced sense of self-worth(probably due to me being a proper Satanist for quite some time), but anyone who genuinely feels low should always remember there is help available, be it counselling, medication or just PMing a friendly forum buffoon like me.

To all those 'poser-depressives' who scratch their arms and wear shortsleeve MCR tops: I understand you want attention, fine, just find it another way. Please?
I'd still say that people with depression lack the will to get help since depression seems to reduce motivation or whatever.Most people who I'v encountered who suffered from some form of depression refused to even admit they had a problem.
It sounds quite shallow to tell someone with that issue to 'snap out of it' -How can I expand on this?

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It sounds quite shallow to tell someone with that issue to 'snap out of it' -How can I expand on this?
You can't, because that's entirely the wrong attitude to take. The last thing you should do to a genuinely depressed person is make them feel like they're doing something wrong. It is an illness, a lack of serotonin, and blame cannot be levelled at them for that.
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Old Jul 23 2008, 09:47 PM   #16
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I disagree with you. You are only one out of tens of thousands accounts of people who have depression, no two depressions are the same, though they may be similar. You speak for yourself based upon your own experiences and opinions, but it does not represent an absolute solution to the other people who have depression. You might know better if you experienced everyone's depression, but I can bet you that will send you over the edge and you'll stick a gun to your head. Being genuinely depressed does not make you automatically knowledgable about depression.
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It depends on the situation whether or not it's appropriate to be sympathetic.

Generally, people that are actually depressed refuse to admit it, tell themselves they have no reason to be depressed and feel guilty about (yep, personal experience. Plus a quick look on google). Probably the last person you expect to be depressed, and you're not likely to find out from them.
Most of the time, if someone thinks it fit to go around telling everyone and their cat they are depressed, it ain't quite true.

Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I started to write it then went and did something else halfway through. And I'm now being kicked off before I can look at it.
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Old Jul 23 2008, 11:31 PM   #18
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I dealt with depression for awhile. I actually had a Myspace blog about it. I want to be a Pro Wrestler (or a Mixed Martial Artist) one day. hehe...I don't know if anyone even cares to read....but instead of typing about it all again...here's my myspace blog....Sorry if anything may seem a little off-topic to you...but I just wanted to share it with you guys. Sorry for the length.


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Man......Imma write this seriously from heart right now.....

All of life I have felt like an underdog. It seemed to me while everyone around me were moving forward I was always the "funny" guy frozen in time. Heh....I guess being the class clown helped influence my popularity and maybe even some of the friends that I have. All of my life....ever since I could remember....I have always wanted to become a professional wrestler. Lol....even got pictures of me and my little brother in diapers wearing our tag team titles. I remember in school teachers always asking us what we wanted to be when we grew up. We had the occassional teachers, lawyers, policemen, firemen, and etc. As years went by and the same question was asked, many people changed what they wanted to be. Every time the teacher asked me, my answer was always the same and has never changed. People used to laugh when I said I wanted to be a professional wrestler. I laughed when others laughed but deep down....man...it hurt me everytime hearing the laughs and stuff.

All my life I have felt like the underdog. Little 'ole' Jordy! "The funny guy in class!" I usually smiled just to hide the pain and anger I felt. Man.....I guess it all started when my dad left. He got a new family and left me to argue with my mother who drunk alot. I love my mother. She's done the best she can raising me and Trent. Its just messed up ya know? I had my dad till I was like 13....and all of a sudden....POOF! He's gone! I hated myself so much for it. I would usually just try to have as much fun as I could so I wouldn't have to face it.....I used to love school so much because coming home was just dreadful....My dad called like once every 5 months....I used to just cry at night and ask God what was wrong with me?....Why didn't my father want me anymore?.....

I actually went to visit him once....and I saw something that night that changed my life forever....Only my closest friends knew about it because I confided in them....I saw my step-mother stab him after an argument...Me and Trent put him in the car and drove him to the hospital...Watching the blood run and looking into his unfocused eyes changed me forever...I have seen things in my life that I pray to God my kids will never have to witness...Throughout all of the pain, suffering, and misfortune in my life....I am grateful....

Maybe there was a reason I was supposed to go through everything I went through....Thats why I started working out....I'm 20 years old and talking about what I wanna be when I grow up is over...If I want to be a wrestler, I have to pursue it. Don't tell him I said this.....Trent is my hero...Alot of you who know him will laugh. When my little brother was born, I remember watching him fight for his life. He was born with double pneumonia. I remember all of the tubes covering his fragile little body. How can a baby survive that? Even though he was a baby, Trent fought for his life....I think we all forget how precious life is....My little brother and my best friend may not have existed if he didn't fight for his life. If my little brother fought death and overcame it, I will be damned if I will let laughter, a careless father, or any negativity in my life hold me back from doing what I believe I was born to do. I will dig deep within myself and crawl through the depths of hell to make my dream a reality.

I remember watching my first Wrestlemania....Heh....it was like Christmas to me....Alot of people wonder whats up with my wrestling events I have...I know everyone else competes for fun....but.....I give my best everytime I have an event....I've put my body through hell for free! Many would think thats stupid...you see...wrestling isn't about making a million dollars to me...Its about the fans...If I compete in a lackluster match and walk out with a million, I would hate myself for it. I love to hear people talking about what I did in my match after its over. Most people write wrestling off as being fake. These guys are on the road 300 days a year. Unless you've been inside a ring, its seriously hard to say taking bumps don't hurt. Trust me, it hurts like hell. What these guys do in the ring night in and night out is downright heroic. They put their bodies on the line with no off-season ( unless they get injured ).

I want to be a part of it. I'm in the best shape of my life. After being at rock bottom pretty much....wondering if life would be better not to exist ( I hated myself for feeling that way too because I'm a Christian and know better than thinking of suicide ). God has saved me in many ways. I just keep the faith and pray that my day will come. I'm blessed to be apart of the MTSU wrestling team. I battled back from having my right shoulder reconstructed. Some didn't think I would be able to wrestle. I became even stronger with my new shoulder. Proving people wrong feels so good. I may even enjoy being the underdog now. Keep saying I can't and I will eventually prove you wrong. All I hear is complements ( So Far ) on my new look. I just pray that all of this sudden burst of inspiration is a sign of things to come.

Thanx for reading this. My life story could be a book lol....this was only a sample....Maybe this will help my friends understand me a little more....and others get to know me....God Bless....
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wow man u had a hard life, its good to see u got over ur depression. One day if u get ur dream i think it will be good to make a book about it like u said, it may help people who are depressed to see the bright side and follow their own dreams.
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You're still young, and as much as it was a horrifying sight to see, it has given you a chance and insight to change what you can about yourself for the better. Best of wishes to you, we'll be looking forward to reading your book.
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