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Been following this guy who has a way of putting theorys together, and this is the best one i have ever seen.. makes alot of sence, just reed slowly.
The reason why Roxas and Ven look like because, in a purely physical sense, Sora’s body (and therefore Roxas’) is Ven’s body as well. Now just wait and hear me out. I believe at some point in Ven’s scenario in Birth by Sleep he is going to choose to sacrifice his body and give it Sora in order to save him from dieing. Now my reason for believing this is because of the following reasons:
1) Roxas looks just like Ven (which is the whole point of this theory). Now the reason I bring this up is because out of all the nobodies their are (at least that this can actually apply to which isn’t but two) comparatively Roxas is a drastic change in looks compared to Sora. Now the only other nobody that we know of that this happening to is Namine who was also made from Sora’s body and soul. So because the fact that she was born from Sora’s body and soul (this would explain why she looks like Roxas’ twin sister) means she can’t be used as an example because of that fact. Now we move to the only other Nobody that we can actually compare to and that is Xemnas and Xehanort. Now comparatively Xemnas and Xehanort look basically just like each other. There isn’t much change at all, if any. Which begs the question, why such a change for Sora?
2) Now Nomura said in regards to the connection between Sora and Ven think of how Sora and Roxas are connected. Well Roxas is Sora’s nobody and therefore Sora’s body and soul. That is their connection. So is Nomura saying that Sora’s body and soul belonged to Ven? Now of course this wouldn’t be the first time something like this has happened in the Kingdom Hearts series before. By this I mean another persons heart inhabiting another’s body. In fact two incidents happened in the same game. The game I’m talking about of course is Kingdom Hearts 1, and of course the two incidents are the times when Kairi’s heart went into Sora and when Xehanort’s Heartless took over Riku. Now when Kairi’s heart went into Sora there really wasn’t much of a change in Sora. Granted he started to question his sanity and was able to see flashbacks from her past, but not much of change. Now the Riku/Ansem incident is a different story. Now when Riku opened his heart to darkness Xehanort’s Heartless was able to enter his body and as we all know took over his body and used it as his own. Now when Riku’s will and Ansem will coincided in accomplishing the same goal Riku’s body remained unchanged*. However when Riku and Ansem were no longer of like minds Ansem exerted his will over Riku’s body and took complete control. This is when Riku’s body started to look like Xehanort. Now this shows that the body takes on the form of whoever’s will is stronger when two hearts inhabit the same body (For what is a Heartless other then a heart consumed by darkness). Now to support this part of theory when Riku exerted his will over Xehanort’s Heartless his body started to gain it’s form as Riku and Riku was able to hold Xehanort’s Heartless back and allow Kairi, Donald, and Goofy time to escape. When Xehanort realized that Riku’s will was stronger then his he banished Riku’s heart to the other side of the door to darkness while he was still in control. Thus Riku’s body took on the form of Xehanort permanently until Riku’s heart returned. So if Ven were to give up his body to Sora the body would naturally take the form of Sora because Ven’s heart would be absent from the body and wouldn’t have to contend for control over it.
Now when Sora gave up his heart to release Kairi’s he loses his body and soul which of course became Namine and Roxas. Without the presence Sora’s heart (and most of his memories) the body reverted back to its original form which is that of Ven, but with the little fragments of Sora’s memory that remained with the body they shaped Roxas’ personality thus making him different characteristically from Ven.
Been following this guy who has a way of putting theorys together, and this is the best one i have ever seen.. makes alot of sence, just reed slowly.
The reason why Roxas and Ven look like because, in a purely physical sense, Sora’s body (and therefore Roxas’) is Ven’s body as well. Now just wait and hear me out. I believe at some point in Ven’s scenario in Birth by Sleep he is going to choose to sacrifice his body and give it Sora in order to save him from dieing. Now my reason for believing this is because of the following reasons:
1) Roxas looks just like Ven (which is the whole point of this theory). Now the reason I bring this up is because out of all the nobodies their are (at least that this can actually apply to which isn’t but two) comparatively Roxas is a drastic change in looks compared to Sora. Now the only other nobody that we know of that this happening to is Namine who was also made from Sora’s body and soul. So because the fact that she was born from Sora’s body and soul (this would explain why she looks like Roxas’ twin sister) means she can’t be used as an example because of that fact. Now we move to the only other Nobody that we can actually compare to and that is Xemnas and Xehanort. Now comparatively Xemnas and Xehanort look basically just like each other. There isn’t much change at all, if any. Which begs the question, why such a change for Sora?
2) Now Nomura said in regards to the connection between Sora and Ven think of how Sora and Roxas are connected. Well Roxas is Sora’s nobody and therefore Sora’s body and soul. That is their connection. So is Nomura saying that Sora’s body and soul belonged to Ven? Now of course this wouldn’t be the first time something like this has happened in the Kingdom Hearts series before. By this I mean another persons heart inhabiting another’s body. In fact two incidents happened in the same game. The game I’m talking about of course is Kingdom Hearts 1, and of course the two incidents are the times when Kairi’s heart went into Sora and when Xehanort’s Heartless took over Riku. Now when Kairi’s heart went into Sora there really wasn’t much of a change in Sora. Granted he started to question his sanity and was able to see flashbacks from her past, but not much of change. Now the Riku/Ansem incident is a different story. Now when Riku opened his heart to darkness Xehanort’s Heartless was able to enter his body and as we all know took over his body and used it as his own. Now when Riku’s will and Ansem will coincided in accomplishing the same goal Riku’s body remained unchanged*. However when Riku and Ansem were no longer of like minds Ansem exerted his will over Riku’s body and took complete control. This is when Riku’s body started to look like Xehanort. Now this shows that the body takes on the form of whoever’s will is stronger when two hearts inhabit the same body (For what is a Heartless other then a heart consumed by darkness). Now to support this part of theory when Riku exerted his will over Xehanort’s Heartless his body started to gain it’s form as Riku and Riku was able to hold Xehanort’s Heartless back and allow Kairi, Donald, and Goofy time to escape. When Xehanort realized that Riku’s will was stronger then his he banished Riku’s heart to the other side of the door to darkness while he was still in control. Thus Riku’s body took on the form of Xehanort permanently until Riku’s heart returned. So if Ven were to give up his body to Sora the body would naturally take the form of Sora because Ven’s heart would be absent from the body and wouldn’t have to contend for control over it.
Now when Sora gave up his heart to release Kairi’s he loses his body and soul which of course became Namine and Roxas. Without the presence Sora’s heart (and most of his memories) the body reverted back to its original form which is that of Ven, but with the little fragments of Sora’s memory that remained with the body they shaped Roxas’ personality thus making him different characteristically from Ven.
I thought Namine was born because Kairi lost her Heart (no heartless form because Kairi is one of 7 princesses of hearts).
Of course Vent isnt Sora father lol. Birth By Slepp hapened 10 years before KH1, sora is 14 years old in kh1. Are you saying that Vent is married and he has a 4 years old son already in BBS???
Anyway. this theory is good ( a bit confused to..). Im certain that Vent somehow have to make a sacrifice so he can reborn in Sora´s body.
Here's something I hate. Kingdom Hearts is confusing enough, but some people make a point to make it even more confusing with theories, and speculations. I'm lost! Haha!
Ah. This theory deserves aplause. I commend whoever thought it up.
It makes perfect sence, (especialy to those who used to be thoroughly versed in Kingdom Hearts knowledge, comme moi).
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Wait...Roxas has a twin sister? ^^" sorry... I didn't play the game (just watch the clips)
No, not a real twin sister. The theorist is just saying that they are somewhat (but not exactly) the same nobody, as Namine and Roxas were made at the exact same time by the same person- Sora.
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I thought Namine was born because Kairi lost her Heart (no heartless form because Kairi is one of 7 princesses of hearts).
Nuh-uh. Namine was made when Sora lost his heart and Kairi's heart was returned to her. Princesses of Heart cannot make nobodies, as they can't make Heartless.
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Last edited by Nox Noctis Consuasor; Oct 18 2008 at 03:32 AM..
Why Ven and Roxas look alike....
