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Old Apr 03 2008, 03:27 AM   #1
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Question CRISIS CORE SPOILER QUESTIONS

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Contains spoilers about Crisis Core, Final Fantasy VII, Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children!

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ok, there are a few things I'm still wondering about...

1 - Zack and Cloud are about 20 years old and when we see Yuffie and Tifa they look like their about 13 or 14 years old and then, in the original, they get older but Cloud is still the same age. I know that it's because they were frozen 4 years but why is Aerith still the same age as well? Is it an Ancient thing?

2 - At the end, two people come and get Genesis...it was the Turk theme music with a Turk helicopter but they seemed to be wearing SOLDIER uniforms...who were they? I know he doesn't die since we see Genesis at the end of Dirge of Cerberus but...what happened??? They mentioned about being their 'new' brother or something...and then at the end of that scene, the LOVELESS act gets an ending...but I'm not sure I understood...

3 - When Cisseni says that it's not her real name and then tells Tseng as well that she didn't tell him her real name...what was that all about?!

4 - When they get taken in by Hojo, you see him looking at Cloud and saying that he'll be the perfect test subject...is that when Cloud becomes a 'clone' of Sephiroth by having 'S' cells inside him and that's when we find out Hojo went back so that's what he meant by a failed experiment in the original?...Zack had 'S' cells as well from what Genesis says when he goes for the final battle...

5 - So when Zack dies and Cloud is walking away, is this basically when FFVII starts off? Cause then we see that 'secret ending' and Cloud says that he's a SOLDIER first class...but is that when Tifa finds him at the train station all weird like? Cause I thought that's how it had happened...Tifa had found him at the train station all dazed from just coming back from Zack's death...but when Cloud leaves Zack, he's back to normal...???

6 - Yuffie never mentions Zack...is it because she's a side character so they didn't want to put anything in that would be 'important' in the game for people that didn't get the side characters?...oh, and speaking of side characters...I don't know about Zack but when I would have opened a coffin that had a person sleeping in it, I wouldn't have just closed it!!! lol, I wanted to see Vincent!!! lol

7 - Zack says to say hi to Aerith from him but Cloud never does...is it because he still a bit 'dazed and confused'? lol

8 - The Goddess Genesis sees at the very end...who was she?

9 - When Zack passes around dumbapples to everyone, Genesis says "Angeal---The dream has been fulfilled." What did he mean by that?


I loved the game, it made me cry at the end...I found it so sad
...yeah, so any help on the questions would help a lot!
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Old Apr 03 2008, 07:04 AM   #2
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Contains spoilers about Crisis Core, Final Fantasy VII, Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children!

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ok, there are a few things I'm still wondering about...

1 - Zack and Cloud are about 20 years old and when we see Yuffie and Tifa they look like their about 13 or 14 years old and then, in the original, they get older but Cloud is still the same age. I know that it's because they were frozen 4 years but why is Aerith still the same age as well? Is it an Ancient thing?

2 - At the end, two people come and get Genesis...it was the Turk theme music with a Turk helicopter but they seemed to be wearing SOLDIER uniforms...who were they? I know he doesn't die since we see Genesis at the end of Dirge of Cerberus but...what happened??? They mentioned about being their 'new' brother or something...and then at the end of that scene, the LOVELESS act gets an ending...but I'm not sure I understood...

3 - When Cisseni says that it's not her real name and then tells Tseng as well that she didn't tell him her real name...what was that all about?!

4 - When they get taken in by Hojo, you see him looking at Cloud and saying that he'll be the perfect test subject...is that when Cloud becomes a 'clone' of Sephiroth by having 'S' cells inside him and that's when we find out Hojo went back so that's what he meant by a failed experiment in the original?...Zack had 'S' cells as well from what Genesis says when he goes for the final battle...

5 - So when Zack dies and Cloud is walking away, is this basically when FFVII starts off? Cause then we see that 'secret ending' and Cloud says that he's a SOLDIER first class...but is that when Tifa finds him at the train station all weird like? Cause I thought that's how it had happened...Tifa had found him at the train station all dazed from just coming back from Zack's death...but when Cloud leaves Zack, he's back to normal...???

6 - Yuffie never mentions Zack...is it because she's a side character so they didn't want to put anything in that would be 'important' in the game for people that didn't get the side characters?...oh, and speaking of side characters...I don't know about Zack but when I would have opened a coffin that had a person sleeping in it, I wouldn't have just closed it!!! lol, I wanted to see Vincent!!! lol

7 - Zack says to say hi to Aerith from him but Cloud never does...is it because he still a bit 'dazed and confused'? lol

8 - The Goddess Genesis sees at the very end...who was she?

9 - When Zack passes around dumbapples to everyone, Genesis says "Angeal---The dream has been fulfilled." What did he mean by that?


I loved the game, it made me cry at the end...I found it so sad
...yeah, so any help on the questions would help a lot!
thanks
----1: From FFVII, five years ago was when this all happened. When Zack met Cloud, Cloud was 16. Time passed from the beginning of Crisis Core when Zack himself was 16. I'm assuming 3 years passed in Zack's story. In FFVII, Yuffie was 16 and Aerith was 22 (one year older than Cloud).

2: Weiss and Nero. Their voice actors are in the credits.

3: Ask Amleya.

4: That was when Cloud was messed up to the point of having a fuzzy memory and in a daze. That didn't mess Zack up like Cloud though.

5: If it says, "To be continued in Final Fantasy VII" then that's probably where he'll start learning about AVALANCHE.

6: She's just a side character in FFVII. I doubt she'd remember so much 'cause she's so damn clumsy and always hitting her head.

7: Cloud wouldn't have remembered. Besides, FFVII hasn't been remade yet. (I'm assuming 'yet' 'cause Cloud did meet Genesis).

8: She's a Goddess seen in Loveless which is Genesis's passion.

9: Well... Those Banora apples were quite something about pride. Didn't Genesis's family want them manufactured as juices or something? It was Banora's signature fruit anyway.
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Old Apr 03 2008, 03:37 PM   #3
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----1: From FFVII, five years ago was when this all happened. When Zack met Cloud, Cloud was 16. Time passed from the beginning of Crisis Core when Zack himself was 16. I'm assuming 3 years passed in Zack's story. In FFVII, Yuffie was 16 and Aerith was 22 (one year older than Cloud).

2: Weiss and Nero. Their voice actors are in the credits.

3: Ask Amleya.

4: That was when Cloud was messed up to the point of having a fuzzy memory and in a daze. That didn't mess Zack up like Cloud though.

5: If it says, "To be continued in Final Fantasy VII" then that's probably where he'll start learning about AVALANCHE.

6: She's just a side character in FFVII. I doubt she'd remember so much 'cause she's so damn clumsy and always hitting her head.

7: Cloud wouldn't have remembered. Besides, FFVII hasn't been remade yet. (I'm assuming 'yet' 'cause Cloud did meet Genesis).

8: She's a Goddess seen in Loveless which is Genesis's passion.

9: Well... Those Banora apples were quite something about pride. Didn't Genesis's family want them manufactured as juices or something? It was Banora's signature fruit anyway.
My memory I think is a bit fuzzy cause who are Nero and Weiss? lol Also, ask Amleya..?????

also, what are the odds that Zack AND Cloud fall through the roof of the church where Aerith is???
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Old Apr 03 2008, 03:51 PM   #4
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My memory I think is a bit fuzzy cause who are Nero and Weiss? lol Also, ask Amleya..?????

also, what are the odds that Zack AND Cloud fall through the roof of the church where Aerith is???
If your that bothered about characters, search Wiki.
I'm not going to explain these characters in detail.

Amleya is a forum member who has a very good knowledge of FFVII and Crisis Core, PM her for any matters on the games in the future if you need any.

And how are we supposed to know the exact odds.
DOES IT REALLY HAVE AN RELEVANCE?
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Keep in mind that Crisis Core is essentially a 'fan' game in the sense that a lot of the stuff is thrown in there just to keep VII-luvvas happy. And if something crops up in CC that doesn't appear in the original game, it's because CC was did not exist in any way, shape or form when the original was made. No planning = inconsistencies, all the important stuff was dealt with in the original game.
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Old Apr 03 2008, 04:08 PM   #6
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i think many members on this forum are fans of CC, and many have good knowledges about FF7 too.
i think it is normal to ask about characters in FF fan forum, in ? thread.
if you have nothing nice to say, better say nothing. Or just give link, if you know , but have some aggressive thoughts
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My memory I think is a bit fuzzy cause who are Nero and Weiss? lol Also, ask Amleya..?????

u should know if u played dirge of cerberus :S


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Old Apr 04 2008, 02:26 AM   #8
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u should know if u played dirge of cerberus :S


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I had forgotten their names, the characters in Dirge of Cerberus (exluding Vincent, Yuffie, Reeve and Genesis at the end) didn't stick much with me, don't know why. I do know now who they are but it's still weird that if it is them, then why were they in a Shinra helicopter and why were they wearing SOLDIER uniforms...?...it sure took them a while to act as well...I mean, a year passes in FFVII, then 2 years after is Advent Children and then another year and then they suddenly appear in Dirge of Cerberus...lol

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evul ppl need fresh blood
i think many members on this forum are fans of CC, and many have good knowledges about FF7 too.
i think it is normal to ask about characters in FF fan forum, in ? thread.
if you have nothing nice to say, better say nothing. Or just give link, if you know , but have some aggressive thoughts
thanks for defending me , I did ask here cause I thought forums were to discuss things between gamers and fans, so I thought I'd ask my questions here...first time I get such aggressive replies though compared to the other forum I go on as well...

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And how are we supposed to know the exact odds.
DOES IT REALLY HAVE AN RELEVANCE?
I wasn't asking the exact odds or anything like that. I just think it was a really big coincidence that Zack and Cloud both met Aerith the same exact way and place as well, that's all. I was merely mentioning it in case that I had simply missed something like hints about there being a connection, that's all
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I had forgotten their names, the characters in Dirge of Cerberus (exluding Vincent, Yuffie, Reeve and Genesis at the end) didn't stick much with me, don't know why. I do know now who they are but it's still weird that if it is them, then why were they in a Shinra helicopter and why were they wearing SOLDIER uniforms...?...it sure took them a while to act as well...I mean, a year passes in FFVII, then 2 years after is Advent Children and then another year and then they suddenly appear in Dirge of Cerberus...lol
----They were still part of SOLDIER then. Genesis would become a renegade anyway. I guess names stick with me because I played the game and clung to it for 11 years.
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The Goddess who appeared to Genesis at the end was Minerva, the optional, hidden WTF boss found in one of the side missions in Crisis Core.
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Old Aug 12 2008, 11:55 AM   #11
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from looks and appearence i think cisseni may later be the crimson Rosso out of dierge of cerberus. Seeing as the the tsviets where a shinra creation locked away underground for many years uknown i think something happen to cisseni after crisis core which we may find out in a later game. I'm willing to bet money she is.
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