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Well, basically, I don't know why some people deem this edition one of the best. Seriously, I despise this game, and were it up to me, I would not have purchased it at all, knowing its game-play.
The Draw sysem was very bland, and annoying. Nothing worse than drawing 100 Thunders thinking you were very smart, only to see the Thundara spell avaiable and all those times drawing seemed very useless.
Also, while you can equip the strongest magic, Ultima, to your HP...etc, using it will drop your statistics. I see this as totally unreasonable.
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Storyline was very, well, complex, and I could not follow it. Bear in mind I have not played it in years, yet nor have I any other FF, and can vividly remember their storyline. I find Squall was a bad main, for the simple purpose that he had no 3D about him. He seemed to deal with all situations the same, and more than once I would tire of his "..." answers.
I have to admit though, there were some useless and addicitive stuff in it. For example, I adored the card system. I loved this aspect, and it was a game in itself. Boy I want to play it now.
GF system I also didn't take foundly too. I suppose in a way it was alright, but FF9 would have been better, learning skills off weapons rather than equipped GFs.
Meh, my ramble over. I'd like to debate this, seeing as this forum is basically empty. Whether you agree or not, fight your case. =d
I do agree it is horrible but not the worst. X-2 is but I won't get into that here. After i get a Wii, i'll play mystic quest. but i swear it is only easy, not bad.
It would take to long for me to explain why I hate it so I'll just make a minor attempt.
GF's: their part in the overall storyline was laughable compared to their importance in the game as a whole. "What I can't use what is in my pockets without a GF? How about magic? NO!". Somethings that are supposed to wipe your memories(no matter how bad that flashback was done) and are the only ways your characters can even be semi-decent have such little impact. Other then being a crappy final boss form.
Junction: Good idea but flawed. with these junctions i can either make my character a superior fighting force but I need a GF to do so. Not to mention as i did above about how useless people are without them. Squall with lionheart at level 75 should not hit for 300 damage against a fish. Also, only 4 commands on a list? This isn't FFV(or tactics but still), get with the times!
Magic: I can't say much except i hate the draw system, a mp based or day based(D&D) system are still much better. Not being able to dump magic also blows because your characters only have 8 pages with 5 spells per page.
Card system: pretty good, I like FF9's better because of the difference between peoples cards and it being more complexed. All in all triple triad is fun, not as good as tetra master but still fun.
Story: badly pulled off. It takes you till the begining of DISC 3 to know who your enemy is.
World: Pretty. Lots of random stuff here and their with things just disappearing and reappearing on the map when you have to go their. But it is pretty, i like it.
Romance: in the infamous ways of squall. "..." How can a girl that he totally hates and would classify as a burden be his love interest. I mean seriously, he hates her and goes off on her during disc one and follows suit with him having nothing to do with her in disc two. But all of a sudden in disc three he turns into a little girl and she is the most important thing to him. Reacting to everything with exaggerated motions when her name is brought up? Horrible.
Final Verdict: Yes I hate this game with a passion. I am even playing it AGAIN currently. I'm up to esthar right before they shoot us in space. I have super pimped characters and everything I could have except my sanity.
FFVIII is one of; if not; THE best Final Fantasy and I think it was pretty amazing when I first played it. Sure, it did feel as fun as FFVII but the story was loads more engrossing.
I thought everything was great with the game, the card system, the weapon upgrades, GF with Abilities etc. the only problems where the completely ridicolious EXP system, where 1000 points is needed for any level, espicially when you find monsters which give you 2000 per battle of Island Closest To Hell. The other problem, oh yeah! The whole Space scene was boring and a bit tedious, catching Rinoa was so annoying that for that reason alone I never use her (oh and shes rubbish too!).
Theres loads of good points to outway these minors like, the music excelled above the other Final Fantasies, the bosses were cool and DOLLET, The Landing, that made the game! Some other stuff too.. like Selphie's weapon which was a clamshell on the end of some sticks, cool huh? Oh and lets not be forgetting Laguna, genious character.
VERDICT (lol): Square tried to change the style of FF to make it different from samey stlye of previous games they'd made. People moaned, people whined.. so they gave us the boring-in-comparison Final Fantasy IX for punishment to show us how good VIII really was
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Yes I hate this game with a passion. I am even playing it AGAIN currently.
Odd, To cement the ideas of why you hate it? Why waste the time when you could be playing such awesome games like 'its-completely-different-from-the-original!!' Kingdom Hearts II :p oh no, Goofy's in trouble again..
I admit various additions such as Selphie and her unique weapon did make a plus for me. But music is not a main facotr. Sure it is a positive one, but there is always the mute button >_> You can play the game without music, but without a proper storyline, its toast.
Basically, it didn't even have humour. The humour was left to such weak characters like Zell, who got very boring and annoying far too quickly.
In 7, we had an enitr level (Gold Saucer) to engauge in mini-games and the enfamous Chocobo Breeding side.
In 9, we had such characters like Zorn and Thorn who are classical examples of comedy. We also have stern characters like Beatrix who pawn Squall, even though she wasn't even the lead.
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As said before, they left it too late to introduce the main boss. As soon as Edea became more 'evil', they made her good!!?? The FMV at the end of Disc 1 was the perfect 'Evil Attack', yet they totally dis-reguarded their good work. Honestly, I think this was a toal mistake.
The card system I admit was better in my opinion than 9, because it felt better to get such cards like Carbuncle, Edea...etc because you knew they could do damage =d
X-2 was the worst. It was a whorefest (no offense to those who like it). I hated the story. Only good thing about X-2 was the battle system. FFVIII, I liked the story, and loved the junction system.
And nice job making a thread ragging FFVIII. I applaud thee.
^Its empty, so I kght as well attract some debating.
Although I admit X.2 is extremely appauling, I find its FMv and general battle system far more appealing. 8 had no real buzz to it, no unique qualities. Sure it had the Card Game, but 9 also did.
All 8 had that was unique to it was a very inneffective Junction System, useless GF abilite-equipping, a very '...' lead. <_ None of which are something to be boasted as one of the best features in an FF game.
gaah, VIII was adorable! fell in love with it by the garden, but the dollet llanding made me spend my next days with the game. didn't get completely used to the junctioning during the first time through and had to restart by adel, but got even more in love with it during the second time. I even had to download some of the music to my mp3, it is Nobou's best collection, undoubtly, though the seymour omnis battle may be his best single work...
and I do agree that X-2 was t3h w0r57 3v4h! God must have been by my side and scratched the disc before I even put it into my PS2 and got stuck just after the last boss in ch1. the FMV came to a complete hault two seconds in. and the battlemusic S-U-C-K-E-D!!! didn't get the feel of a battle at all. and just big-boobed girls as main characters, was it really intended to be a pervo-game?
^Its empty, so I kght as well attract some debating.
Although I admit X.2 is extremely appauling, I find its FMv and general battle system far more appealing. 8 had no real buzz to it, no unique qualities. Sure it had the Card Game, but 9 also did.
Take into account the time that it was made, please. Of course the FMV was more appealing in FFX-2. FFS, at that time, graphics had come a long way. I actually found the FFX-2 battle system to be quite cumbersome and made it a chore to fight. Even if you change the ATB thing to "Wait" it won't wait while it's your turn unless you're in the item menu about to use an item or something... That was the saddest bathroom break I ever had.
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All 8 had that was unique to it was a very inneffective Junction System, useless GF abilite-equipping, a very '...' lead. <_ None of which are something to be boasted as one of the best features in an FF game.
Innefective? lol. GF's aren't useless. The majority of them just aren't useful to be summoned. The junction system is very effective. It's all about refining items and drawing magic an' shit. If you know what you're doing, you can make the game easy as pie. xD
Innefective? lol. GF's aren't useless. The majority of them just aren't useful to be summoned. The junction system is very effective. It's all about refining items and drawing magic an' shit. If you know what you're doing, you can make the game easy as pie. xD
This is the first and only time I'll ever agree with you.
Junction system is far from ineffective. Anyone who really thinks that is just too slow to understand it. The summons in this game aren't for summoning. They're for making your characters Gods so you can pwn bosses in a few hits (the fight with Adel lasted about three hits from Squall. Two regular attacks, and one Lionheart. )
Most of you are missing the fact that Square developed squall under the pressure of his situations, whether the change in personality is believable or not it still does not mean it is a bad thing that he fell in love with rinoa. At the start of the game he is slashed across the face with a blade. Obviously he will be in pain and have some form of head injury which could alter his personality towards rinoa at the start of the game. He changes his oppinion of rinoa gradually, i believed it.
Josh
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I don't hate Aeris. She was really love I thought, a genuine tragedy that she died. Riona on the other hand, is just so irritating it's almost unreal. She just changes from chidlish to serious way too randomly for my liking and just has an irritable personality.
I can't explain it, I just really didn't like her.
Rinoa also changes under the pressure of the situation, in her defense. I never said YOU hate aeris / aerith, it just sort of seemed the same. I understand that you may not relate to the character (rinoa) because if you think about what happened to her during the game, she was happy and childish at the start of the game, yet after being taken hostage, posessed twice, and falling in love does she become serious. The reason I think most people dislike this game is because it was such a drastic change from ff7, plus it had a lot to live up to with ff7. I personally think square did a brilliant job in creating believable and interesting MAIN characters, irvine, bleugh, but the rest yer, believable. lol
Josh
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Worst FF IMO
