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Old Jun 13 2007, 03:46 PM   #1
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Do you think there are othe life forms besides us out there? Its hard to say because if God made earth, why can't he do the same thing far away? I supposed that if he did, it would have stated it in the bible, but it doesn't. Those are my opinions, yours?
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Old Jun 13 2007, 03:47 PM   #2
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No. I don't believe in "extra terrestial beings". If God wanted life elsewhere He would have said so in the Bible.
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Old Jun 13 2007, 04:33 PM   #3
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Isnt there bacteria on mars or something? Thats life, technically.

I think there is life elsewhere. Theyve proven how big the universe is so just having one planet of billions having life on just doesnt make sense.
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Old Jun 13 2007, 04:45 PM   #4
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I'm not buying into it. I agree that it probably would have been mentioned in the Bible.
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Old Jun 13 2007, 05:05 PM   #5
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So things cant exist or be discovered unless they're written in the bible?
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Old Jun 13 2007, 05:07 PM   #6
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Its hard to change someones opinions. :X

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Old Jun 13 2007, 05:07 PM   #7
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We're not saying that Dante.

Edit: If ET did exist; how did they get where they live? And how come we're not having a War of the Worlds right now? I'm just asking questions. Answer them if you want. Or say "What the hell? I dunno."
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If ET did exist; how did they get where they live?
How am i supposed to know how life starts?

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And how come we're not having a War of the Worlds right now?
Are you asking why Aliens aren't coming and killing us? O_o Im saying they probably exist, not want to kill everything for no reason. Bacterias cant hold machine guns either which might be something to do with it.

Does the bible even mention other planets to begin with?
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How am i supposed to know how life starts?
I dunno...

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Are you asking why Aliens aren't coming and killing us? O_o Im saying they probably exist, not want to kill everything for no reason. Bacterias cant hold machine guns either which might be something to do with it.
Bacteria can't hold machine guns...or so you say. Kidding.

Well, yeah that's true. But then why isn't there communication? Wait-I'll stop asking questions...

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Does the bible even mention other planets to begin with?
Not that I know of..then again I've only read the book of Luke.
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Old Jun 13 2007, 05:40 PM   #10
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I have to say that I don't really have an opinion on this. I could side either way. I do think that if there was other life it would have been in the Bible but then again I could see how there still might be other life in the universe because it is so....massive.
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Old Jun 13 2007, 06:50 PM   #11
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How am i supposed to know how life starts?



Are you asking why Aliens aren't coming and killing us? O_o Im saying they probably exist, not want to kill everything for no reason. Bacterias cant hold machine guns either which might be something to do with it.

Does the bible even mention other planets to begin with?
I know you're a strong atheist bro....but strong believers of the Bible and God are probably not going to buy into the way you think. The Bible tells me how life started....I trust in God....thats all I need to know. I don't need anything extra. In my opinion, mankind is getting too smart for its own good. We continue to question and think into realms that our brains will never truly be able to comprehend.

I also understand that a strong believer will probably never be able to sway you into their way of believing. Remember that other end of the spectrum thing. I think we've hit that yet again lol.....I just don't believe there is other life out there. I think people want to believe it though.

The same way you question God and the Bible's ways is the same way I can question yours. Do you just believe everything people tell you? Have you actually seen this bacteria? or ya.....or is it just heresay? We all listen to people all the time. Our country tells us Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon....Despite none of us actually seeing it or witnessing it in person, we take for granted that we are being told the truth. We here alot of things from the news, the papers, and our superiors. We take for granted that what they say is true because we inhibit faith in them.....just like us believers inhibit faith in God.

So I ask you that same question......So things can't exist or be discovered unless a scientist tells you they've been?
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I know you're a strong atheist bro....but strong believers of the Bible and God are probably not going to buy into the way you think.
Im not asking them to, Im giving on opinion.
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Do you just believe everything people tell you? Have you actually seen this bacteria? or ya.....or is it just heresay? We all listen to people all the time. Our country tells us Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon....Despite none of us actually seeing it or witnessing it in person, we take for granted that we are being told the truth.
This has already been said before, but someone has. I very much doubt its a conspiracy, the government aren't tricking us into thinking that someone went on the moon or life is on mars, thats stupid they would get nothing out of it. Someone has seen and done those things and proven it. Videos, pictures, the lot.

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So I ask you that same question......So things can't exist or be discovered unless a scientist tells you they've been?
Thats not what I meant at all. Things can be discovered which no one knows about. Someone implied before that only if something, like life on other planets, isnt written in the bible then it cant be, right? Does the bible mention space travel? Planets? CARS? Playstation 3? Just because its not written in the bible it doesnt mean it can't be possible.

I'd believe something a scientist tells me over a book which was written back when they thought the world was flat.
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I dunno about the man on the moon thing. Back then were we not in race with Russia?

If so then that could be entirely possible and if I am correct then I think a couple of years ago NASA said that they "lost" the original recording of the whole incident.
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Old Jun 13 2007, 07:45 PM   #14
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Im not asking them to, Im giving on opinion.


This has already been said before, but someone has. I very much doubt its a conspiracy, the government aren't tricking us into thinking that someone went on the moon or life is on mars, thats stupid they would get nothing out of it. Someone has seen and done those things and proven it. Videos, pictures, the lot.



Thats not what I meant at all. Things can be discovered which no one knows about. Someone implied before that only if something, like life on other planets, isnt written in the bible then it cant be, right? Does the bible mention space travel? Planets? CARS? Playstation 3? Just because its not written in the bible it doesnt mean it can't be possible.

I'd believe something a scientist tells me over a book which was written back when they thought the world was flat.
I'm not saying its a conspiracy.....I was just using it as an example. I would rather put my trust in a perfect being over sinners anyday. Seeing as we all sin, that would be all humans. Its awesome how I could get a degree....slap on a white coat and spectacles....tell you something and you would probably eat it up like a fat kid in front of a birthday cake. Thats your perogative. Just like its mine to eat up things written in the Bible just the same as the analogy that was just used. You can say what you want....I'm not buying it....and I never will.....I can say what I want.....and I'm sure you'll never buy into it. In the end, we'll all know. Nothing can be 100% proven or disproven. I think I'll take my chances with the "book which was written back when they thought the world was flat".....over spending an eternity in hell....but hey....you may be right....and you could just luck out afterall...In my opinion, burning forever and ever isn't worth that gamble.

Or hell....maybe we'll get aliens flying down here and blowing up stuff sci-fi style right? Bacteria, aliens, E.T.........Life isn't a movie......I'm just not buying it. We'll see though.
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Old Jun 13 2007, 08:08 PM   #15
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You can say what you want....I'm not buying it....and I never will.....I can say what I want.....and I'm sure you'll never buy into it. In the end, we'll all know. Nothing can be 100% proven or disproven. I think I'll take my chances with the "book which was written back when they thought the world was flat".....over spending an eternity in hell....but hey....you may be right....and you could just luck out afterall...In my opinion, burning forever and ever isn't worth that gamble.
Ugh, let me get one thing straight that you dont seem to be understanding. Im giving an opinion. Im not trying to convince you to believe anything.

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I dont just believe any random. Things have to have meaning and logic to be believable. They have to have evidence and proof to back them up. Stop trying to twist my words.

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Well you did pretty much say that God doesn't mention life elsewhere so it can't be true.

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Or hell....maybe we'll get aliens flying down here and blowing up stuff sci-fi style right? Bacteria, aliens, E.T.........Life isn't a movie......I'm just not buying it. We'll see though.
When did i suggest aliens were going to come and kill everyone? I dont know the facts because im not a scientist but I can believe in what I want.
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Ugh, let me get one thing straight that you dont seem to be understanding. Im giving an opinion. Im not trying to convince you to believe anything.



I dont just believe any random. Things have to have meaning and logic to be believable. They have to have evidence and proof to back them up. Stop trying to twist my words.

Well you did pretty much say that God doesn't mention life elsewhere so it can't be true.



When did i suggest aliens were going to come and kill everyone? I dont know the facts because im not a scientist but I can believe in what I want.
I'm not twisting your words....you're doing that yourself. It doesn't even matter anyways....You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want...End of story...
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I'm not twisting your words....you're doing that yourself. It doesn't even matter anyways....You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want...End of story...
You can't twist your own words. To twist someone's words would be exploiting it in a way the original speaker did not intend. It's pretty hard to exploit your own words in a way you didn't intend.

I believe there is life out there. The chances of there being life in a universe of infinity is infinitely greater than there being no life.

Besides, the Bible was written by 2000 year old people, sinners, as you put it. If sinners wrote the bible, what's to stop them from sinning yet again and making it a complete lie? I don't see how you can trust 2 millenia old people no one was even sure existed over people who are still alive. "Faith" is the only proof that the Bible isn't a lie, and it's not too solid of an evidence.

The ones who wrote the Bible had no idea about most of the universe, and the earth for that matter. It's hardly sensible to disbelieve aliens because a 2000 year old group of people who didn't know that the world was round didn't mention them.

I know some people may find this difficult, but what would your opinion be, if religion had no part in it?
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You can't twist your own words. To twist someone's words would be exploiting it in a way the original speaker did not intend. It's pretty hard to exploit your own words in a way you didn't intend.

I believe there is life out there. The chances of there being life in a universe of infinity is infinitely greater than there being no life.

Besides, the Bible was written by 2000 year old people, sinners, as you put it. If sinners wrote the bible, what's to stop them from sinning yet again and making it a complete lie? I don't see how you can trust 2 millenia old people no one was even sure existed over people who are still alive. "Faith" is the only proof that the Bible isn't a lie, and it's not too solid of an evidence.

The ones who wrote the Bible had no idea about most of the universe, and the earth for that matter. It's hardly sensible to disbelieve aliens because a 2000 year old group of people who didn't know that the world was round didn't mention them.

I know some people may find this difficult, but what would your opinion be, if religion had no part in it?
Thanks for that truly insightful translation of twisting words??..............you sounded like one of my friends ......we call him Ryan The Science Guy because he's so dorky. I'm definitely not calling you dorky so don't take it the wrong way....I just thought that was funny because thats EXACTLY something he would say.

What may not be sensible to you is to others. Saying what I believe or disbelieve in is "hardly sensible" sorta seems like an attack on my religion. I know you probably didn't mean it that way.....but when it comes to religion....you can throw logic and sensibility out the window. Many people have different beliefs. I believe that not believing in aliens due to my religion is very sensible. I could say that you believing in aliens and not what the Bible says is complete nonsense. I'm not going to though.....that would be a personal attack on your beliefs. You can believe whatever you wanna believe.
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Thanks for that truly insightful translation of twisting words??..............you sounded like one of my friends ......we call him Ryan The Science Guy because he's so dorky. I'm definitely not calling you dorky so don't take it the wrong way....I just thought that was funny because thats EXACTLY something he would say.

What may not be sensible to you is to others. Saying what I believe or disbelieve in is "hardly sensible" sorta seems like an attack on my religion. I know you probably didn't mean it that way.....but when it comes to religion....you can throw logic and sensibility out the window. Many people have different beliefs. I believe that not believing in aliens due to my religion is very sensible. I could say that you believing in aliens and not what the Bible says is complete nonsense. I'm not going to though.....that would be a personal attack on your beliefs. You can believe whatever you wanna believe.
I suppose that is true. It's nearly impossible to prove or disprove religion, and the world will always be like that. Sorry if I offended you.
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