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I do believe in heaven and hell. And it's not my place to explain either. If you have any questions about heaven and hell you should read the books "23 Minutes in Hell", "90 minutes in heaven", and "To hell and back". Those books were written by people who actually went there and came back.
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Wow, I do not understand how some people cannot believe in heaven and hell. The idea has been around since, well, ever I think. Even the romans and greeks had a heaven and hell....
Side Note - I did not mean to offend anybody if you do not believe in Heaven and Hell.
i dont really believe in heaven and hell. I just believe that when we die our body or spirit enters another realm which co-exists with the people still living relm i.e people on earth
As im not relgious, i believe that your subconscious continues to exist, even if your body has stopped. So you live in your own world after you die, however i think the way your new world is viewed by you depends on how you act, such as guilt may make your new world bad for you. That seems like hell, kinda.
As im not relgious, i believe that your subconscious continues to exist, even if your body has stopped. So you live in your own world after you die, however i think the way your new world is viewed by you depends on how you act, such as guilt may make your new world bad for you. That seems like hell, kinda.
woah that was put forward well my belief would be similar to yours.....i believe your mind or spirit lives on in another world of your own or a different realm from earth which would be a 'spirit realm'
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I'm one of those people who just go in circles with their beliefs. Our bodies having a soul does appeal to me, mainly because it's hard to imagine how our thoughts and minds work. Then again I'm not religious and I believe in Evolution and scientific way of things too though. Having a soul is pretty essential for Heaven and Hell to work but I still can't tell whether or not if they or something similar exist. Kinda went in a circle again. I'll work it out eventually.
Dont believe in Heaven or Hell. I dont know what happens when you die, but I dont think you fly up to the clouds and I dont think you burn for the rest of time because you didnt follow the 10 commandments.
Corrections: "Wow, I do not understand how some people cannot believe in heaven and hell. The idea has been around since, well, ever I think. Even the romans and greeks had a heaven and hell...."
Pagan hell is different from the Biblical hell. Please understand that. The Biblical hell is also arguably a figurative location.
"If you have any questions about heaven and hell you should read the books "23 Minutes in Hell", "90 minutes in heaven", and "To hell and back". Those books were written by people who actually went there and came back."
It's not entirely credible that somebody has been in heaven or hell. If we're talking about Biblically, then it's stated pretty clearly that only a small group of people in proportion to the rest of the world get to enter heaven, and hell is also arguably figurative. I mean, the word is actually a reference to 'the grave'.
As for what they did see, it is usually referred to as a near death experience, in which one realises that they have had a 'fatal accident' or such and 'has not survived'. There are other characteristics too, but that's the biggest one.
Thing is, there's this drug called ketamine that's occasionally injected into people under certain circumstances that can induce all NDE effects. It can still happen otherwise though; NDE is a state that can be naturally triggered by something like a lack of oxygen to the body and brain.
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All of that aside, I currently do not believe in the existence of heaven or hell, unless we're taking hell as 'the grave'. In that case, hell technically exists. Why? Because all of your thoughts, feelings, ponderings, etc, are caused by the chemicals in your brain. Once you die, they degrade into the soil with the rest of you. I can't remember the exact scriptures (never can), but even the Jehovah's Witness teaching referred me to how the bible supported this.
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We try to study the other worlds when we know almost nothing about the one we live in.
Hell and Heaven exist in that they are created by our imaginations and our aspirations. They do not exist in that we can never reach them. After death, we just decompose like the rest of organic matter does.
I agree with Rikku. When you're dead that’s it. Everything that was your mind, your personality and everything else is gone. If there was a Hell then God can sure hold a grudge. One sin and your off to Hell for all eternity. Personally I focus on living rather than dieing.
On the matter of people believing in it since the beginning of time couldn’t it be possible that people didn’t want to face their own mortality and thus invented the after life as an escape.
Also NDEs are pretty much bull in my opinion. People dream, that’s it.
If there was a Hell then God can sure hold a grudge. One sin and your off to Hell for all eternity.
First off, when did God create Hell? And second, Its said in the Bible that God forgives people if they mean it with their heart. Just because you do one sin doesn't automatically mean your going to hell forever. If what you said was true, everybody would be burning.
As im not relgious, i believe that your subconscious continues to exist, even if your body has stopped. So you live in your own world after you die, however i think the way your new world is viewed by you depends on how you act, such as guilt may make your new world bad for you. That seems like hell, kinda.
Bravo. Explains my thoughts exactly. No heaven or hell. When you die, you die. The rest of eternity is spent in darkness. Whether you feel joy or guilt or some such emotion is based on what you felt when you died. So you can murdur and and still feel joy in death if you were a sadist. Basically, the state you are in immediately before death is the same state you are in for the rest of eternity when you die.
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