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What will Square have in store for Final Fantasy? The game is losing it's interest in Japan. Square needs to do something fresh to re-invent the franchise.
So what could it be?
1. Bring back Hironobu Sakaguchi?
2. Going back to old school, you know the good old times when we ran around fighting random monster and visiting lots of medieval towns and actually being able to control all of the party members?
3. Enough with high tech science fiction, it was good for a while but now it's getting kinda repetitive.
Just because one game started getting lip from a small percentage of gamers doesn't automatically spell doom for an entire Franchise. And besides XIII hasn't even been released internationally yet.
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1. Bring back Hironobu Sakaguchi?
That would be a blessing (not sayin anything's wrong now)
But to have the the original big three back working on a numerical FF would be awesome.
Sakaguchi directing, Amano designing the characters, & Uematsu composing.
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3. Enough with high tech science fiction, it was good for a while but now it's getting kinda repetitive.
Oh c'mon, that's not really fair. You're generalizing here. XIII is literally the only FF so far to have had a complete futuristic concept. So I don't see what repetition you're complaining about here.
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What will Square have in store for Final Fantasy? The game is losing it's interest in Japan. Square needs to do something fresh to re-invent the franchise.
How is FF losing interest in Japan? Because the amount of games sold is less than other in the series? Keep in mind that its on the PS3 only in japan, and it doesnt come cheap. The game itself is more expensive than previous installation and its not even out worldwide yet.
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Originally Posted by Lady_gaga
2. Going back to old school, you know the good old times when we ran around fighting random monster and visiting lots of medieval towns and actually being able to control all of the party members?
You REALLY want to go back to random encounters? Really?
REALLY?
I am GLAD that random encounter is a thing of the past. I used to have my finger on the "fast forward" button on the emulator whenever I get in to random encounters. (Which is why I am glad you don't need to grind at all in 8. Its awesome.)
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Originally Posted by Lady_gaga
3. Enough with high tech science fiction, it was good for a while but now it's getting kinda repetitive.
*cough*XIV*cough*
I think the Sci-Fi esque setting will be more appealing to FF's target audience, which is around late teens to twenties. If you are any older than that and you still like FF, good on you. Instead of satisfying their old customers, SE wants to attract newer players.
SE is moving in the right direction for their games. Sure, many veteran players are hating on them for not keeping to the tradition and whatnot, but you mentioned something about SE needing to do something fresh - this is exactly what they are doing.
What will Square have in store for Final Fantasy? The game is losing it's interest in Japan. Square needs to do something fresh to re-invent the franchise.
So what could it be?
1. Bring back Hironobu Sakaguchi?
2. Going back to old school, you know the good old times when we ran around fighting random monster and visiting lots of medieval towns and actually being able to control all of the party members?
Bringing back the old is the exact oppisite of being fresh.
What will Square have in store for Final Fantasy? The game is losing it's interest in Japan. Square needs to do something fresh to re-invent the franchise.
So what could it be?
1. Bring back Hironobu Sakaguchi?
2. Going back to old school, you know the good old times when we ran around fighting random monster and visiting lots of medieval towns and actually being able to control all of the party members?
3. Enough with high tech science fiction, it was good for a while but now it's getting kinda repetitive.
times are changing lucy.
1. why? nomura-sama is gonna end up taking over anyway. he is our god of the new world. bow down before him.
2. what saabon and glacies said.
3. who cares . as long as the game is fun to play!
How is FF losing interest in Japan? Because the amount of games sold is less than other in the series? Keep in mind that its on the PS3 only in japan, and it doesnt come cheap. The game itself is more expensive than previous installation and its not even out worldwide yet.
So? FFX was released when the PS2 had a similar amount of userbases and it outsold XIII in the first week...and no, the game price is normal in Japan, it's not anymore expensive than Dragon quest or any other games in the japanese market.
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*cough*XIV*cough*
That doesn't count, I'm pretty sure 80% of Final fantasy userbase doesn't give a ratass about XIV.
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Bringing back the old is the exact oppisite of being fresh.
Sometimes bringing back the old is refreshing. It's like after you listen to modern Electro pop for a long time and suddently you heard an nice R&B jam from the 90s that you used to love, you'll feel refreshing afterward.
Ps you all be lying if you're saying you don't miss being in complete control of the entire party.
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So? FFX was released when the PS2 had a similar amount of userbase and it outsold XIII in the first week...and no the game price is normal in Japan, i'ts not anymore expensive than Dragon quest or any other game in the japanese market.
No, the game is definitely more expensive than any installments of Final Fantasy. For one, games did not break the AUS$100 mark before PS3/Xbox, and FF13 is selling for AUS$112 (US$99).
And I remember seeing somewhere that the fact that FF13 did bad in the second week because it was sold out everywhere - the stores couldn't get them in fast enough and therefore, no sales.
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That doesn't count, I'm pretty sure 80% of Final fantasy userbase doesn't give a ratass about XIV.
Just because you don't give a ratass doesn't mean that 80% of the userbase doesnt. And even if people don't give a ratass doesn't mean it doesnt exist. Its still a numbered title, still a final fantasy. My argument is totally valid.
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Originally Posted by Lady_gaga
Sometimes bringing back the old is refreshing. It's like after you listen to modern Electro pop for a long time and suddently you heard an nice R&B jam from the 90s that you used to love, you'll feel refreshing afterward.
Seriously.
SERIOUSLY.
How the heck is bringing back the old "refreshing" in anyway? I think you are confusing "refreshing" as "nostalgic". And your example is saying that you should just go back and play the old games for that "refreshing feeling".
What will Square have in store for Final Fantasy? The game is losing it's interest in Japan.
Ah? No its not.
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1. Bring back Hironobu Sakaguchi?
He hasn't exactly done inspiring work at Mistwalker. I'd like him back but he isn't needed.
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2. Going back to old school, you know the good old times when we ran around fighting random monster and visiting lots of medieval towns and actually being able to control all of the party members?
You're still in total control, it's just more limited to make it faster. This is called evolution and it's needed.
Towns, yeah, I'd like them back. Random battles? Go jump off a cliff.
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3. Enough with high tech science fiction, it was good for a while but now it's getting kinda repetitive.
How is it anymore repetitive than medieval? You know it was Sakaguchi's idea in the first place? And that only three entries in the series (7, 8 and 13) have had sci-fi elements?
What will Square have in store for Final Fantasy? The game is losing it's interest in Japan. Square needs to do something fresh to re-invent the franchise.
So what could it be?
1. Bring back Hironobu Sakaguchi?
2. Going back to old school, you know the good old times when we ran around fighting random monster and visiting lots of medieval towns and actually being able to control all of the party members?
3. Enough with high tech science fiction, it was good for a while but now it's getting kinda repetitive.
You're not very "gaga"
I think you should change your username
I was hoping for a lighthearted brainstorm but no.Your username lies.
That doesn't count, I'm pretty sure 80% of Final fantasy userbase doesn't give a ratass about XIV.
And I'm pretty sure you're a dipshit for throwing a game under the bus that's going to have more for what it's worth than the entirety of previous installments just for the fact that its online.
It's incredibly ignorant that just because you won't play or like the game that other's wont.
I'm still trying to figure out how a casual FF mmo is going to ruin the entire series or for some reason isn't canon (not when XI is holding incredibly strong with its subscribers and is the most "traditional" developed FF to date).
Also, I would like to point out that Fantasy does NOT mean medieval.
Fantasy is very broad and can cover ANYTHING you can conjure up from your imagination. The 3 installments are not strictly sci-fi, either. Modern/futuristic, yes, but I don't see why its repetitive. Medieval fantasies are not exactly original, either.
No, the game is definitely more expensive than any installments of Final Fantasy. For one, games did not break the AUS$100 mark before PS3/Xbox, and FF13 is selling for AUS$112 (US$99).
And I remember seeing somewhere that the fact that FF13 did bad in the second week because it was sold out everywhere - the stores couldn't get them in fast enough and therefore, no sales.
For fuck sake the price of $90 for a game is NORMAL in Japan, and no the game shipped 2 millions copies by now. It just isn't selling as well as the last..hmmm 6-7 entries. If it's lucky enough to have the longetively like VII did then I'm not worry, but it is unlikely so.
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Just because you don't give a ratass doesn't mean that 80% of the userbase doesnt. And even if people don't give a ratass doesn't mean it doesnt exist. Its still a numbered title, still a final fantasy. My argument is totally valid.
Hmm considering XI only sold like what? 500k? When the franchise have a fanbase of 7-10 millions people? Yer I say more than 80% of the franchise fanbase doesn't give a ratass about online titles.
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You're still in total control, it's just more limited to make it faster. This is called evolution and it's needed.
Towns, yeah, I'd like them back. Random battles? Go jump off a cliff.
Hmm maybe the franchise doesn't need "evolution" or whatever you're calling it. The ATB system in X-2 was the most "evolved" as the franchise should get. It gave you total control while suitable for thrill seekers or stragetic players.
Hmm considering XI only sold like what? 500k? When the franchise have a fanbase of 7-10 millions people? Yer I say more than 80% of the franchise fanbase doesn't give a ratass about online titles.
Hmm considering FFXI is the most profitable thing the company has, I don't Square Enix or the millions of dollars it brings them annually really give a shit.
Wait, what's the point of this thread again?
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For fuck sake the price of $90 for a game is NORMAL in Japan, and no the game shipped 2 millions copies by now. It just isn't selling as well as the last..hmmm 6-7 entries. If it's lucky enough to have the longetively like VII did then I'm not worry, but it is unlikely so.
The last 6-7 entries have been out longer than FF13, which has been out for not even a month. AND its not even out for the rest of the world yet. Where did you pull this argument from?
Also, since FNC entries are only connected by mythos, it is highly likely that it can outlast FF7. They can basically make ANYTHING and not worry about ruining plot points from previous titles because as far as we know, they are not even in the same universe.
Something I have to add is that Dragon Quest is actually more popular than Final Fantasy in Japan, something that is totally inverted in the western world. It is not surprising that FF doesn't do that well when compared to DQ in Japan.
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Hmm considering XI only sold like what? 500k? When the franchise have a fanbase of 7-10 millions people? Yer I say more than 80% of the franchise fanbase doesn't give a ratass about online titles.
Do you know that FFXI one of the reason that SE is able to throw in a bunch of money to make new offline games? Not everyone can afford monthly fees but those who can is actually keeping the company afloat.
@ wyno - finally got ya to crack eh? i was wondering how long it would take.
now for something on topix.
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Also, since FNC entries are only connected by mythos, it is highly likely that it can outlast FF7. They can basically make ANYTHING and not worry about ruining plot points from previous titles because as far as we know, they are not even in the same universe.
i'm pretty sure se went into 13 with that mindset
which is a good thing.. i think.
So guys...what's next for Final Fantasy
. as long as the game is fun to play!
