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Old May 19 2010, 03:33 PM   #1
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I am extremely disappointed with Square Enix, since they did not release Final Fantasy XIII in Asia for Xbox 360 console. When I bought Xbox 360 (My only console and PS2), I am excited that I could play Final Fantasy XIII on it. Worse graphics, or other reasons compared to PS3 version doesn't bother me at all, until it was said that it will be released in selected regions, like U.S and Europe, but not in Asia countries. This devastated me and my friends badly.

It would help me a lot if anyone can answer my questions, and I appreciate any feedback except flames.

Question 1: Why is Final Fantasy XIII is not released in Asia for Xbox 360 console? Is it because of bad sales for Xbox 360 consoles in several Asia countries like Japan, or are there other reasons?

Question 2: Is the game region locked, which can only be played in selected countries like U.S, or is it region free, but only sold in U.S and Europe? If it is region free, I will import the game no matter what.

Question 3: Is there a chance that the Chinese version for Final Fantasy XIII will be released in Asia for Xbox 360? I understand that Sony handled the translation for Chinese, but is Microsoft able to localise the game too in multiple languages/subtitles for Xbox 360 version?

Thank you for reading and replying in advance.

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Old May 19 2010, 05:14 PM   #2
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1- Xbox is not a big seller in asia or japan, and I think there was some agreement that SE had with sony not to release the 360 version in asia.

2-Dont really know.

3- Dont think so, the game is already out, if there hasnīt been any news about it, you might as well forget about it
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Old May 19 2010, 05:22 PM   #3
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PS3 version is not region locked.
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Old May 19 2010, 06:07 PM   #4
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SE said there won't be a 360 release for Asia so they did what they could - locked the game for NTSC-U & PAL consoles.

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Old May 19 2010, 10:11 PM   #5
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Old May 19 2010, 11:58 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replies. Does Final Fantasy XIII for Xbox 360 is region free? If yes, then I will buy the game no matter what.

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Old May 20 2010, 10:48 AM   #7
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Thanks for the replies. Does Final Fantasy XIII for Xbox 360 is region free? If yes, then I will buy the game no matter what.
DVDs are region locked by law. Unless you mod your Xbox to be region free, you can't play it.

Blu-ray on the other hand, region locking is optional, so therefore FF13 can play on any PS3 consoles.

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Old May 20 2010, 07:06 PM   #8
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By Saaban's logic I wouldn't be able to play USA 360 games (DVD region 1) on my PAL 360 (DVD region 2). DVD region lock is as much optional as it is for bluray. While Sony forces developers to make games regionfree, MS let's the developer decide it themselves if they want to region lock or partially lock their game or not.

To answer the question: FFXIII's 360 works on US and EU machines, but not Asian machines according to play-asia.

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Old May 20 2010, 08:36 PM   #9
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Thanks for the replies. Does Final Fantasy XIII for Xbox 360 is region free? If yes, then I will buy the game no matter what.
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SE said there won't be a 360 release for Asia so they did what they could - locked the game for NTSC-U & PAL consoles.

Still not enough? Fine...

0x00FF0000 PAL
0x000000FF NTSC/U
0x0000FF00 NTSC/J
0x00FF00FF PAL, NTSC/U
0xFFFFFFFF Region Free
0x0000FDFF NTSC/U, NTSC/J (Excludes China)



...there is only one english version and it's locked to NTSC-U and PAL. Game data is exactly the same regardless of it's origin.

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Old May 21 2010, 06:38 AM   #10
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By Saaban's logic I wouldn't be able to play USA 360 games (DVD region 1) on my PAL 360 (DVD region 2). DVD region lock is as much optional as it is for bluray. While Sony forces developers to make games regionfree, MS let's the developer decide it themselves if they want to region lock or partially lock their game or not.

To answer the question: FFXIII's 360 works on US and EU machines, but not Asian machines according to play-asia.
No you wouldnt. USA is NTSC-U and PAL, is well, PAL. Unless you mod your console and modify the game's partition, you won't be able to play.

Sony also had region locks for their PS1 and PS2 consoles. I have a PAL PS2 machine and games I bought from HK which is NTSC-J won't work on it.

The reason why blu-ray doesn't have region lock is because of its output. Unlike Blu-ray, DVD can only export in one of two conflicting output code - NTSC and PAL. A lot of players (PC, for instance) can output both by they are locked to protect copyright and price discrimination. Blu-Ray on the other hand, outputs in ATSC (1080i or 1080p) its universal so there is really no technical restriction but it depends on the developer if they want to lock it.

However, blu-ray players are different yet again. As far as I know, they are always region locked (there ARE region free ones in Asia and you can hack the machines just like you can hack a console). PS3s, though, it does contain the ability to do a region lockout but Sony left it, since they advertised the PS3 as totally region-free.
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Old May 21 2010, 08:28 AM   #11
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Thanks for the answers for my question, everyone. Still, I am going to be sad as hell as I have no chance of playing that game. I have waited for 3 to 4 years for that game.
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Simple. Just get a PS3.
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Simple. Just get a PS3.
Wish I could buy one, but certain circumstances prevented me from buying it, sadly.
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Old May 21 2010, 03:30 PM   #14
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What, money?

Just sell the Xbox. >> BD player and console in one, profit.
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No you wouldnt. USA is NTSC-U and PAL, is well, PAL. Unless you mod your console and modify the game's partition, you won't be able to play.
The fact that I shrouded in sarcasm in my last reply is: you can play US 360 games on an EU 360, without modding, IF the developer chose to not lock it. I don't think I have to give evidence for this fact that has been known since the release of the 360 years ago, which is why I used sarcasm in my last reply. While the PS2 is hardcoded in the hardware to region lock, which is why you can't play your asian games on your EU PS2, the 360 isn't hardcoded, the region lock is on the dics and up to the developer to make a lock or not.

The whole purpose of people checking if games are region locked or not on the 360 is because of that fact. And while it is nice that a console can either output NTSC or PAL, that is actually more a matter for your TV and not so much your console. It has become pretty standard long before HD TV's were out that TV's could handle both signals. If you had a TV that wouldn't do NTSC it would turn up black and white on your PAL only TV.

NTSC-J and whatnot has nothing to do with DVD region locks. Before you want to go against this: I play NTSC-J DVD's on my EU DVD player (unmodded obviously), because guess what? Both are DVD region 2 and I don't have a shit TV that can only handle PAL.

I don't know wether I'm being wooshed for explaining this or that you actually don't know how it works.

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Old May 21 2010, 08:37 PM   #16
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Saabon is mixing regular DVD regions with region-locked-game-content (game-to-console interaction).

The whole thing could be said very precisely in a sentence using one of the error messages.

"The region code for this game does not match your console's region" - simple as that, nothing more, nothing less.

It's a region code list like the one I posted earlier in this topic. The console refuses to play it if the game region is not right.

DVDs discs as they are can be multi region (1-6)...

With a JTAGed console you could patch the default.xex of the game, making it region free...but hell, with a JTAGed console you don't even need the disc during play and can even merge FF13 so it doesn't require disc swaping lol ...but chances of jtaging are small, only possible if you have an old dashboard version (which you don't have if you played any new games)...oh, and it's illegal.

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