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06:53:02 Whiplash
God I hope that's the wording they use in the judgment
06:52:52 NotitsMan
No worries.
06:52:41 Whiplash
It's a human rights violation to prevent it
06:52:30 Agent Dunham
Sorry, DP. My sense of social obligation is strong.
06:52:00 Agent Dunham
With the Xbone, I can see situations where you can't resell a game in, say NA, but you will be able to in the EU because, well, it's thuh law.
06:51:26 Whiplash
other articles I've found while looking
06:51:14 Whiplash
But here are a couple of
06:50:41 Whiplash
I can't find the article I had in mind, because the internet's spent a good few weeks complaining about the Xbone and it's buried amidst the rubble
06:50:40 NotitsMan
Forget it, I don't really want to talk this out with you both again.
06:49:52 Agent Dunham
Call me crazy, but that seems like an issue with your game.
06:49:48 Whiplash
Valve's going through court in the EU right now trying to argue that it is, but I don't like their chances
06:49:34 Agent Dunham
On Heavy Rain, where something like 3 million people played it and only 2 million bought new copies. Ignoring that copies may have changed hands more than once, 1 million people traded the game in. 50% of people who bought your game new.
06:48:03 Whiplash
Then there's the issue of preventing theft and preventing the consumer from exercising their rights
06:47:37 Whiplash
You can combat piracy without hurting used game sales, the PS3 more or less proved that
06:45:19 Agent Dunham
And after that one time, what? Just let it sit arounnnnd?
06:44:12 Agent Dunham
Heavy Rain? You mean the game David Cage said to play once?
06:43:37 NotitsMan
In this particular discussion, I feel I can as the proposed features combat both things.
06:42:17 Whiplash
Hang on, you can't lump piracy in with used game sales
06:32:24 NotitsMan
The Dissidia piracy figures and the Heavy Rain secondhand numbers were pretty alarming from where I was standing.
06:31:35 Whiplash
In the meantime, why not read a few Animorphs pages?
06:31:19 Whiplash
I will once I trawl through a few threads
06:31:16 NotitsMan
It seems irrational to do such consumer-angering things without a good reason.
06:31:09 Whiplash
Every company wants that
06:30:51 Whiplash
That's just an attempt to get total control over the consumers
06:30:40 NotitsMan
You have proof to back this up?
06:30:24 Whiplash
They claim it does, but it doesn't
06:30:17 NotitsMan
The drastic measures seem to suggest otherwise.
06:29:55 Whiplash
But it doesn't dig deeply
06:29:31 NotitsMan
But they've been utterly deaf to their customers' opinions on this.
06:28:12 NotitsMan
I don't think it's evil for the companies to try to push back against a force that digs so deeply into their bottom line.
06:27:25 NotitsMan
We'll see what happens, but I've never been outraged by DRM measures like this.
06:26:53 Whiplash
Had I owned an Xbox One I'd have been left with a very expensive paperweight
06:26:37 Whiplash
If it wasn't for my PS3 I'd have gone mad
06:26:26 Whiplash
I was without the internet for 10 days a few months ago
06:25:32 Whiplash
Canceling interviews and limiting press conferences at E3 is kind of... not the point of E3
06:24:52 Whiplash
Not that Microsoft will collapse even if the Xbone is the disaster it's shaping up to be
06:24:30 NotitsMan
That's true. I don't think they will, though.
06:24:28 Whiplash
Although their shareholders may beg to differ
06:24:09 Whiplash
They're also entitled to go under
06:23:15 NotitsMan
Those businesses are entitled to look out for their own interests in the same way consumers are by buying used.
06:22:11 Whiplash
The fact that there's a used game market at all proves consumer appetite for one
06:21:43 Whiplash
It's not smart business to piss off your consumer base
06:13:15 NotitsMan
Nor are they obligated to look for a compromise.
06:11:27 Whiplash
Oh wait, they aren't looking for a compromise
06:11:16 Whiplash
Seriously, industry, online passes are the compromise you're looking for
06:08:22 NotitsMan
This seems relevant to that line of thought.
05:52:24 Whiplash
The upsetting thing is, I can't imagine them giving Sony such a massive chance to dominate the next gen if they weren't confident that Sony will be doing much the same as they are
05:37:22 Whiplash
Ouch
05:30:44 Whiplash
Also, Animorphs updates
05:30:38 Whiplash
Booo, should have been a dick skin rug
05:28:24 NotitsMan
The end of one of his fingers.
05:28:14 NotitsMan
The books did specify.
05:01:24 Whiplash
You could put it in front of the hearth and have sex on it
04:57:11 Whiplash
A little dick skin rug
04:56:52 Whiplash
Imagine it was dick skin then
04:56:32 Jake
Nope.
04:54:47 Whiplash
Did the books specify where on the body the skin came from?
04:51:29 Jake
Makes his gift of a piece of skin in the books seem underwhelming.
04:47:05 Jake
So Ramsay sent them Theon's dick in a box. Well damn.
04:33:40 Whiplash
Just a hunch
04:10:43 Whiplash
I suspect I could
03:55:29 Oracle
http://robbstarks.tumblr.com/post/52598819264 I dare you to get through this without giggling
21:23:52 Daniel
I'm experiencing a noticeable lack of adrenaline today. Why are 5 hour shots so stupidly priced?
19:09:49 NotitsMan
I'm quite excited.
19:09:44 NotitsMan
Man. Just a day until all this shit hits the fan.
19:02:57 Dora
I forget how crap Gatwick airport is...
18:41:46 Agent Dunham
Poor Patty.
17:53:09 Jake
Oh yeah, that's out. I wish I had a 3DS. But not for that. For SMTIV next month.
17:50:28 Ethan
*plays Animal Crossing New Leaf and screams at the cuteness*
17:41:31 Jake
But I agree. A traditional single player Final Fantasy with character creation would be nice.
17:40:56 Jake
They technically do. In the MMOs.
17:26:23 Daniel
Random thought. I think it'd be neat if Square aloud us to create our own character in a Final Fantasy. This of course will never happen because they like cgi too much.
17:22:48 Daniel
I never realized just how huge a moose could get.
17:17:43 Jake
That's one pissed off moose looking thing.
17:08:50 Jake
That will be what I do with my life. Because I still have no idea.
17:01:34 Dora
16:55:26 Jake
I'm planning on submitting poetry to an emo website.
16:08:33 Dora
Wow, you guys are a beacon of hope.
15:16:14 Jake
Dying at 30 still sounds preferable to me.
15:02:34 Whiplash
I'd do it myself but I really couldn't stand living in a shared house
14:55:21 Whiplash
Sitting there, head bowed in silence over a Bible, portable DVD player resting inconspicuously on it
14:53:36 Whiplash
I suggest joining a monastery devoted to silent prayer. You'll probably get a few years of sitting around with free room and board before they notice that you've got headphones on under your hood
14:52:44 Jake
Die at 30.
14:51:52 Whiplash
What are you planning to do with your life?
14:51:24 Whiplash
They get paid pretty well
14:51:19 Whiplash
Hey, I intend to work for the government
14:50:34 Jake
Another decade at least then. Hopefully we'll both be moved out and independent by then. So we still won't be able to afford one anyway.
14:47:28 Whiplash
I'll believe it when I see it in my loungeroom
14:46:35 Jake
Unlikely. OLED is next level shit. It can retain the image from pretty much any viewing angle.
14:45:43 Whiplash
So you get even more image distortion if you're not sitting directly in front?
14:43:37 Jake
Only $13,500. What a bargain!
14:43:22 Jake
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=580871
14:43:20 Whiplash
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22828150
14:39:52 Agent Dunham
I don't get the same rhythm on a touchscreen. It's terrible.
14:39:48 Jake
It's summer, silly southern hemisphere.
14:38:33 Whiplash
You just want to snuggle up in bed with it on these cold winter nights
14:38:22 Whiplash
Mine's always warm to the touch, pliant, yielding...
14:37:30 Agent Dunham
Mine also has some kind of thermometer.
14:36:43 Agent Dunham
The subtle curves...
14:35:57 Agent Dunham
Those little lines on the F and J keys...

 




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