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 21:37:07
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21:37:05
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Microsoft's arrogance got the best of them. It happened to Sony in 2006.
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21:36:41
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21:36:24
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I'm just a tiny bit sad, but only because it was awesome working there, despite working 8 hours 6 days a week, including holidays. 
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21:36:09
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I also can't blame anyone who finds the announced features unappealing. Look at the backlash. Look at the responses when these were rumors. Based on that alone, Microsoft should have gone in a different direction.
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21:35:45
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21:35:43
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And it's like "You need Kinect, you need authentication on start up (maybe), half the feature list won't be available to you at launch and may never become available during the life of the machine"
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21:35:23
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I'm about as invested in the Xbox as I am in the PS4. It's all about the games, man. Right now, Quantum Break is the only thing that has my interest from the One. The PS4 has Killzone and inFAMOUS. Advantage PS4.
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21:34:19
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Hahaha, yeah, it does seem likely.
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21:34:17
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For someone like me, who has never been invested in the brand, it's not shaping up to be appealing so far.
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21:33:55
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Well, since Kinect is apparently required for the damn thing to function, why not exploit it?
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21:33:46
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But if that's the case, I can just choose PS4.
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21:32:50
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The one thing that does worry me is the strong prospect that, as Jake said, a ton of those fifteen exclusives could be shitty Kinect cash-ins.
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21:31:52
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The sports game presentation was laugh-worthy, but those in all likelihood won't be exclusives so I don't particularly care.
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21:30:46
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"Xbox, Two and a Half Men." *Xbox shuts down* *Xbox implodes*
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21:29:33
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But still, I have to wonder if Average Joe gives a shit. If he'll be gesturing at his Xbox and telling it to put on favourite CBS property.
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21:29:21
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I'll admit the TV features seem superfluous when pretty much their entire audience owns computers, but they've promised a game blow-out at E3 just as I'm sure Sony is planning.
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21:29:03
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I would probably go straight to HTPC, but I guess I'm an enthusiast like that.
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21:27:19
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Maybe that's the disconnect.
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21:26:57
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But then, the last time I had a console in the living room, the notion that it could do anything other than play games and DVDs was crazy future speak, like flying cars.
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21:26:25
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The only thing that the PS4 announced that they didn't was stuff like social networking and spectating the games of your friends.
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21:26:06
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They announced fifteen exclusives in the first year, saving features and demoing and downloading features.
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21:25:58
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The ability to watch TV on it isn't bad, it just shouldn't be such a major selling point
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21:25:13
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That's not the problem, the problem is that the reveal was mostly focused on the console's TV features rather than gaming features
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21:25:03
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But I'm not American, so I wouldn't be able to use it anyway. 
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21:24:47
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Just seems arbitrary to me.
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21:24:43
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I didn't bitch when the PS4 incorporated social networking despite my disdain for it. I'll elect not to use it.
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21:23:51
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I suppose I don't see what's so wrong with more features on your console? It's not as though you have to use them, and if you want to own both things then voila!
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21:23:40
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In other news, if you're still rocking SD in 2013, and you're not a senior citizen, well, I just don't know what to say.
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21:23:10
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21:22:59
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For me it's all about the games, and I haven't seen many from either console.
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21:22:51
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What is so offensive about hitting a button on a remote? Would you not feel like a twat, yelling at your Xbox to switch to TV-- No, wait, music! OH! XBOX-- GO HOME!
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21:22:14
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BUT IT HAS GESTURES AND VOICE COMMANDS.
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21:21:44
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"OH MY GOD, XBAWKZ, I'M MISSING AMERICAN IDOLLLLLLL CHANGE THE FUCKING CHANNELLLLLLLLLLL"
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21:21:36
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I'm sure they can't wait to watch TV, on their TV.
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21:21:12
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21:21:10
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Then again, the American TV audience...
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21:20:43
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What if I said that, DP? Or a European?
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21:20:09
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Because of what you just said, DP.
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21:20:07
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I thought half the reason to play a mobile or handheld game was to watch TV at the same time, haha.
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21:20:01
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The Japanese probably won't rush to buy a PS4 anyway.
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21:19:59
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It's not like the Xbox hasn't ever been US-centric
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21:19:43
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Most Japanese gaming hours are spent on mobile devices these days, anyway.
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21:19:24
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Eh, the Japanese were never going to buy it anyway.
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21:19:18
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That's a bad fucking job.
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21:18:58
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Where you've gone to the trouble of getting foreign press, streaming to an international audience... and you show them a bunch of US-centric features.
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21:18:09
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"I wonder how Americans are gaming at home. Whenever I'm playing a game, I never feel like I want to watch TV, so the ability to switch between the two makes no sense to me."
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21:18:07
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No, Microsoft. The internet and streaming are the future. Catch up.
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21:18:06
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I think this quote from a Japanese gamer sums it up pretty well:
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21:17:48
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Depends on your stance for certain "issues", I guess.
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21:17:22
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"Let's not talk about specs. Let's not talk about games. Let's not talk about secondhand policy. Let's not talk about online connectivity. Let's talk about tv because cable is totally the future."
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21:17:01
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That's the internet I guess.
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21:16:46
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But the hatred seems disproportionate to the things they are actually doing.
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21:16:28
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I don't feel like they used their time effectively.
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21:16:27
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I'll agree. They revealed maybe one core game and a lot of unpopular features.
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21:15:46
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21:14:34
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21:14:29
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It's quite extreme. I've been browsing GAF.
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21:14:15
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No, I'm really more referring to general outrage.
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21:13:54
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Microsoft with the Xbox reveal.
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21:13:50
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And are you describing me as militant? 
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21:13:29
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21:12:35
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I don't feel so militant about the things they've done.
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21:11:24
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Tell you what, though, I'd sooner buy a Wii U than the XBO.
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20:52:29
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At least the Wii U is getting its just desserts.
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20:51:46
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Nintendoland. Wonderbook. This.
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20:51:39
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These companies. What are we even going to do with them?
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20:50:57
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If they can shore up a stronger batch of exclusives than Sony, though, they've done something very right at least.
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20:50:40
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That might be a prudent mindset. I'm hopeful for more, but I don't have any evidence to base the hope on.
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20:50:05
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I'm preparing for a barrage of Kinect crap with a few games that might actually get my interest.
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20:49:19
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A strong showing at E3 could swing sentiment back in their favor, though. Their conference was focused on the console and not the games.
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20:47:30
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20:47:22
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This reveal seems to have generated no good press where they didn't explicitly pay for it.
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20:46:53
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Who knows what their final stance will be. They need to do some form of press-release that clarifies everything and speaks in a unified voice with no room for contradiction.
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20:45:32
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The game is also apparently linked to your account. So you could lend a friend the game, they could sign into your account, and play it. You and the friend obviously wouldn't be able to play the game on two different consoles at the same time, though.
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20:43:14
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You know, just using one disk to install among three separate people on three separate consoles.
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20:41:26
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Sounds like a big waste of money to me, but I assume it's to prevent people just sharing one used game among many by exploiting new One features.
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20:41:04
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That's what I initially read as well.
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20:39:57
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The fee would be to run the game on the One sans disk, from what I've read.
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20:39:53
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If only there was a conference they could have have to clear all this up... oh wait.
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20:39:10
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In short, they have no idea what they're doing.
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20:37:56
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Well, DP, one thing I read said that. But MS has been contradicting themselves so often in the past day, it's not clear.
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20:35:46
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I was under the impression that used games were confirmed to run perfectly fine as long as the disk was in the drive.
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20:12:39
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But it's clearly the publishers pushing this. So I'm sure they made very sure they get a fair cut.
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20:12:07
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That's the question. How greedy is Microsoft?
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20:11:20
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20:10:54
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I assume Microsoft would get a cut, but unlike Gamestop, they'd pass the rest to the publisher/dev.
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20:09:53
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I wonder though, if Microsoft will charge a fee, that fee goes to Microsoft only? Turning Microsoft into the new Gamestop?
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20:07:25
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20:05:05
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Gamestop becoming an unofficial Sony store confirmed.
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20:04:50
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20:03:48
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20:02:28
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Gamestop already advertising Xbox One, not that I thought they wouldn't but I really wonder what they are thinking about the game installs.
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20:01:19
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19:58:42
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No Japan pandering at all. I guess they got the hint there.
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19:56:02
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I didn't realise how Australian Andrew Wilson sounded until I watched that summary video. I've also never realised that we say spawt. And now I'll never forget it...
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19:55:23
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Wait, EA did talk about FIFA. I guess that tiny segment was the mandatory, "This shit's mainly for Europe" part.
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19:54:12
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American football is the only sport on earth as far as Microsoft is concerned.
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19:52:02
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19:47:04
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Haven't you read any Phil Harrison interviews?
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