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Astro
Oct 25 2009, 02:42 PM
I've been waiting for this day; for the CHN Famitsu scans to appear so that I can read them! =D They're basically the Chinese version of the recent Japanese issue, but I chose to start a new thread because I hope that translations (both mine and fellow Mandarin speakers') can follow below! (Whiplash I hope the topic was titled properly?) They can be found here at this site where Dominique found them last time round:

http://e3.endless.com.cn/html/tvgame/ps3/news/2009-10/25/2104542c00b769a217eace.htm

Problem is, I still can't get them to load; somehow the images on this site never load for me! Would need someone to help rehost the scans, and I promise I'll translate all the scans for everyone! (But because my exams are coming up, maybe at least most of it/the most important stuff just for now, and the rest definitely after my exams are over!)

So yes, someone please help rehost the scans? =)

EDIT: I'm going to post links to the scans and translations here in order to help make it easier for people to find them.

Scans Rehosted (By Neophoton):
http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=227142&postcount=9
http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=227175&postcount=11

Translations for Pages 11 - 13 (By Whiplash):
http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=226577&postcount=241 (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=226577&postcount=241)

Translations for Pages 14 - 27 (By Astro):
http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=227594&postcount=42

Translations for Pages 32 - 33 (By entrydenied):
(http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=226577&postcount=241)http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=227619&postcount=47

Whiplash
Oct 25 2009, 02:48 PM
....I dunno, you slave over a hot laptop for 3 hours and then those bastard Chinese magazines decide to get involved.

Astro
Oct 25 2009, 02:50 PM
Huh, I don't get you; what'cha mean?

Whiplash
Oct 25 2009, 02:52 PM
Someone else will have to explain, I don't think I can without much screaming and bursting into tears.

Neophoton
Oct 25 2009, 02:55 PM
She means to say she's been working on translating the Japanese scans, but the Chinese scans made it pointless in the long run.

Saki Im
Oct 25 2009, 02:59 PM
Whip's been trying to translate the japanese famitsu for the past couple of hours. She's just really moody at the moment.

Anyways, that'd be awesome if you did, astro. Thanks <3

Neophoton: DAMN YOU! Beat me to it. :rolleyes:

Astro
Oct 25 2009, 03:00 PM
Oh... I'm so sorry Whiplash! Please don't worry, your hard work will most surely be appreciated too! But why, don't tell me Japanese is not really your second language and you've been really spending A LOT of effort translating the scans? >.< Then you really deserve an A+++++++; don't be too moody! =)

Tempus Frangit
Oct 25 2009, 03:08 PM
Whip gets an A+ for having a Calculon avatar. We now return to All My Circuits.

Neophoton
Oct 25 2009, 03:39 PM
Whip's been trying to translate the japanese famitsu for the past couple of hours. She's just really moody at the moment.

Anyways, that'd be awesome if you did, astro. Thanks <3

Neophoton: DAMN YOU! Beat me to it. :rolleyes:

:aldo:.


Astro, here's some of the scans. I skipped over most of the Dissidia scans because no one cares about them. Also skipped over the BBS pages.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7899/19813152.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/19813152.jpg/) http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3479/25360880.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/25360880.jpg/) http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4562/36795190.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/36795190.jpg/) http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2517/19409891.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/19409891.jpg/)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2919/45842738.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/45842738.jpg/) http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5849/20331565.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/20331565.jpg/) http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5686/26336018.th.jpg (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/26336018.jpg/) http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4903/56027266.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/56027266.jpg/) http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4397/34869615.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/34869615.jpg/)

I'll edit my post when I upload the rest.

Second upload:

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6485/54593189.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/54593189.jpg/) http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/692/11580402.th.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/11580402.jpg/) http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3104/78510774.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/78510774.jpg/) http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5722/20659526.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/20659526.jpg/) http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9082/60417216.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/60417216.jpg/) http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6264/24240757.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/24240757.jpg/) http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5959/82406227.th.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/82406227.jpg/) http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1065/35702309.th.jpg
(http://img18.imageshack.us/i/35702309.jpg/)

Dominique
Oct 25 2009, 04:32 PM
@astro:
Dude,you're fast,lol

It's DFF&KHBBS from page 18.

Btw,ENDLESS's CHN FAMI scan is much more HD and integral than JP FAMI.

Neophoton
Oct 25 2009, 04:59 PM
Last few scans:

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9791/36393460.th.jpg (http://img97.imageshack.us/i/36393460.jpg/) http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5376/96943078.th.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/96943078.jpg/) http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6636/82721820.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/82721820.jpg/) http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1963/36593389.th.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/36593389.jpg/)

Definitely translate 3rd Birthday, please? <3


If anyone wants the other scans for Dissidia or BBS uploaded onto ImageShack, I'll put them up.

Saki Im
Oct 25 2009, 05:04 PM
I'd love you long time for the BBS scans.
... and i'd greatly appreciate if you could translate those too, Astro. <3

Astro
Oct 25 2009, 05:25 PM
Thanks Neophoton for uploading the scans here; muchly appreciated! =D

Hmm, since Whiplash is already doing translations from the Japanese scans, I guess I won't double the work since there's really no point. However, perhaps I'll add on to her translations if there's anything?

Also, since Neophoton you uploaded the scans, I guess I'll return you the favour by translating the 3rd Birthday part. =) Just give me some time now!

And Saki Liu, I could try, but no promises OK? Please understand; actually my exams are round the corner! >.< Unless maybe the BBS scans are short and can be translated fast, alright? So sorry, if not maybe after my exams are over?

Neal
Oct 25 2009, 05:26 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/RayeOak/P8130117-1.jpg

Dire
Oct 25 2009, 05:35 PM
^ If the dude in that pic were just a few more years of age, I'd totally hit that!

Sorry, HAD to throw it out there!

Keep of the good work on the translations, kind people.

Shanana
Oct 25 2009, 05:37 PM
^ If the dude in that pic were just a few more years of age, I'd totally hit that!

Sorry, HAD to throw it out there!


I look forward to the ramifications of this post.

Dire
Oct 25 2009, 05:45 PM
^ I was in the middle of editing, adding spoiler tags and a disclaimer, but you beat me to the punch. And I forget to emphasize coming of age = *legal age, mind you! :aldo:

Anyways back on topic, keep up the good work on the translations, kind people!

Neal
Oct 25 2009, 05:46 PM
AHAHA. I am eagerly anticipating Whiplash's return.

Shanana
Oct 25 2009, 05:55 PM
I like the gutless way he deleted his post. You guys can restore them, right?

Falsate
Oct 25 2009, 06:04 PM
Whip hasn't been trying, she's been doing the translation.

Dire
Oct 25 2009, 06:04 PM
I like the gutless way he deleted his post. You guys can restore them, right?

I'm very OCD about the edited time stamp showing up, so I deliberately deleted it and was going repost the edited one right away... but you posted before I got a chance to, therefore making it look as if I was trying to cover my ass. So I made a pervish comment at some random guy's photo that was only a bad joke... big deal.

Shanana
Oct 25 2009, 06:07 PM
I'm sure that's the case.

Dire
Oct 25 2009, 06:08 PM
I like the gutless way he deleted his post. You guys can restore them, right?

I'm very OCD about the edited time stamp showing up, so I deliberately deleted it and was going repost the edited one right away... but you posted before I got a chance to, therefore making it look as if I was trying to cover my ass. So I made a pervish comment at some random guy's photo that was only a bad joke... big deal. Don't try to victimize me.

Ok, I think it's time to take a break from the internet. :/

Neophoton
Oct 25 2009, 06:12 PM
I'd love you long time for the BBS scans.
... and i'd greatly appreciate if you could translate those too, Astro. <3

Here you go:

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5900/64064854.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/i/64064854.jpg/) http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/7864/37841971.th.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/37841971.jpg/) http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3932/75361548.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/75361548.jpg/) http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1777/90317885.th.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/90317885.jpg/) http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4521/86491577.th.jpg (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/86491577.jpg/) http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8650/27534049.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/27534049.jpg/)

Shanana
Oct 25 2009, 06:17 PM
I'm very OCD about the edited time stamp showing up, so I deliberately deleted it and was going repost the edited one right away... but you posted before I got a chance to, therefore making it look as if I was trying to cover my ass. So I made a pervish comment at some random guy's photo that was only a bad joke... big deal. Don't try to victimize me.

Ok, I think it's time to take a break from the internet. :/

You did it again to make it seem like what you say is true.

OH, DEDICATION <3

Dire
Oct 25 2009, 06:19 PM
Wow, I was just informed that was a picture of Whiplash. Dear God. My bad.

Joke's on me, now. :(

EDIT: Whiplash- my sincerest apologies.

Neal
Oct 25 2009, 06:20 PM
Don't worry, Im sure she'll be flattered.

Astro
Oct 25 2009, 06:21 PM
OK, Neophoton; here's the stuff on The 3rd Birthday! =) (One thing; I don't follow 3rd Birthday so I may not know what's already known and what's newly reported in the scans!)

There's a little bit about it in the black box on Page 36, but it's just a recap on the trailer that was shown at TGS'09, which I assume you must've seen already?

Then the bit on Page 37 is probably more interesting. There's a photo on top, with a caption that says "This game is a Third Person Shooting game that features Aya, the returning heroine from the Parasite Eve series. In this game, she will be able to use special abilities "O-Ba-Daivu" (Overdive? Supposed to be some ability related to time warping?) to battle enemies called the "Tsuisuteddo".

Then the interview below:

Q: In the beginning of the trailer, is Aya in some kind of club?
A: That it is a place where concerts can be held at. This will have some kind of in-game function. (I really don't get this answer, actually. O_o)

Q: And so the battle format for the game is finally revealed.
A: Yes. However, although we have revealed battle footage, the game is still under work, including the battle system. It has yet to go through the artistic director's hands, so the lighting, shading, etc. are only temporary. Honestly speaking, the director originally wanted to withhold all footage, but in the end we still showed it!

Q: What's the progress like so far?
A: The script is already finished, and right now we're in the process of auditioning for the voice actors. We hope to be able to reveal more information in 2010 next year.

Yep that's it. =)

Neophoton
Oct 25 2009, 06:28 PM
It's a shame 3rd Birthday hasn't been getting so much spotlight, but hey... it's not Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts, so it's to be expected.

Many thanks for translating it, Astro! :D

Shanana
Oct 25 2009, 06:28 PM
OK, Neophoton; here's the stuff on The 3rd Birthday! =) (One thing; I don't follow 3rd Birthday so I may not know what's already known and what's newly reported in the scans!)

There's a little bit about it in the black box on Page 36, but it's just a recap on the trailer that was shown at TGS'09, which I assume you must've seen already?

Then the bit on Page 37 is probably more interesting. There's a photo on top, with a caption that says "This game is a Third Person Shooting game that features Aya, the returning heroine from the Parasite Eve series. In this game, she will be able to use special abilities "O-Ba-Daivu" (Overdive? Supposed to be some ability related to time warping?) to battle enemies called the "Tsuisuteddo".

Then the interview below:

Q: In the beginning of the trailer, is Aya in some kind of club?
A: That it is a place where concerts can be held at. This will have some kind of in-game function. (I really don't get this answer, actually. O_o)

Q: And so the battle format for the game is finally revealed.
A: Yes. However, although we have revealed battle footage, the game is still under work, including the battle system. It has yet to go through the artistic director's hands, so the lighting, shading, etc. are only temporary. Honestly speaking, the director originally wanted to withhold all footage, but in the end we still showed it!

Q: What's the progress like so far?
A: The script is already finished, and right now we're in the process of auditioning for the voice actors. We hope to be able to reveal more information in 2010 next year.

Yep that's it. =)

Oh, you little piece of awesome. <3

Falsate
Oct 25 2009, 06:33 PM
It's a shame 3rd Birthday hasn't been getting so much spotlight, but hey... it's not Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts, so it's to be expected.

Many thanks for translating it, Astro! :D

More along the lines of Square announcing so many titles and can only manage so much aparently.

des
Oct 25 2009, 06:36 PM
Btw,ENDLESS's CHN FAMI scan is much more HD and integral than JP FAMI.

Urgh what? You really should check your eyes. Also I didnt know scans are HD nowadays, I really didnt notice the 1080p resolution at all...

redberrie
Oct 25 2009, 09:28 PM
Urgh what? You really should check your eyes. Also I didnt know scans are HD nowadays, I really didnt notice the 1080p resolution at all...

XDD i think maybe HQ would be a better word for it.. but the jap scans really looked URGHH to read..

anyways, the chinese issue wasnt all that choked full with new info.. ><" ermms, so whiplash.. you can maybe take it easy. :) and i hope that i dont make your blood boil by posting the following.. ><"



3rd Scan [the pic with Lightning & Fang] – Fang seems to be a trustable comrade as Lightning is seen talking to her about Serah.

7th [the pic with Lightning & Fang] – it seems that Fang’s weapon can be transformed into a three-section staff/nunchucks (Sansetsukon).

10th Scan – Brynhildr’s weapon can transform into a gun, even though it looks like some sort of blade..

12th Scan – one of Brynhildr’s Gestalt mode attack, Caltrop Bomb, will have pin-shaped bombs fired out from the exhaust pipe! O_O

13th Scan – Bahamut’s Gestalt mode attack, the one that can be levelled up, is a fire-based attack (from the look of those Chinese words).. ><”

14 & 15th Scan – the city Palumpolum (the one that Lightning was running through in the TGS gameplay.) is one of the biggest cities in Cocoon with infrastructure ranging from small alleyways to majestic high tech looking buildings and also to the reddish looking buildings in the scan. The climate is reasonably fine, seeing the way the civilians dress. and Hope lives in this city! (based on the Epidoes Zero Translations). :)

16 & 17th Scan - And it seems that the PSICOM’s hiding something in undergrounds of the city.. which is the Fal’cie of Cocoon [yes, that orange butterfly looking thingy]. Upon this sight, Lightning starts to have certain doubts about things..

Falsate
Oct 25 2009, 09:37 PM
Hiding a Fal'Cie.. so is this the same Fal'Cie frozen in Lake Bilge by chance?

redberrie
Oct 25 2009, 09:45 PM
Hiding a Fal'Cie.. so is this the same Fal'Cie frozen in Lake Bilge by chance?

if i remember correctly, the last issue of Famitsu mentioned a snippet of it and that's Pulse's Fal'Cie.

Falsate
Oct 25 2009, 09:55 PM
It's sort of weird when you think about how they describe te Fal'Cie to be these impeccable gods who craft the most powerful things. Now one is captured by Cocoon.. or rather hidden beneath a city occupied by PSICOM.

neveryuna24
Oct 25 2009, 10:08 PM
can some one post and translate the dissidia scan

Whiplash
Oct 26 2009, 03:20 AM
Translate away Astro and others, it just gives me more time to study. I maintain that the universe hates me though.


Wow, I was just informed that was a picture of Whiplash. Dear God. My bad.

Joke's on me, now. :(

EDIT: Whiplash- my sincerest apologies.

My favourite part is how you thought I was an underage boy. Please continue, it turns me on

Ferox
Oct 26 2009, 07:11 AM
Awww! It would have made for good story-telling if Fang & Lightning didn't see eye-to-eye.

Astro
Oct 26 2009, 12:10 PM
Haha, Whiplash; I've got my exams too you know! Why don't you upload whatever translations you've done so far, and I'll complete the rest? Wouldn't want your hard work to go to waste...! And as for what's left, maybe I'll translate a scan now and then as a break from studying, haha...

Whiplash
Oct 26 2009, 12:21 PM
I've pretty much done the first couple of pages. I did I bit of the first page to really talk about Fang but couldn't get much due to no furigana/Famitsu making up kanji combinations as far as I can tell from three kanji dictionaries. They're in the main thread on the scans.

Astro
Oct 26 2009, 01:16 PM
OK, let me start translating...!

First off, here's Whiplash's work for the first 4 pages (Pages 11, 12, 13):

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=226577&postcount=241 (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/showpost.php?p=226577&postcount=241)

And now I'll continue with the rest of the pages, starting with these few... I'll be working in installments, alright? =)

*Note: I will bold the important/juiciest bits!

Page 14
- Top of the page: "The 6th member of the party is finally confirmed, and it is a female by the name of Fang, who is wearing very tribal-themed clothes. How does she become Lightning's comrade?"
- Caption for top photo: "Fang looks on as Snow is taken away by the Sanctum soldiers. From the way she looks, you can tell the resolve that she possesses, and the lack of any form of perplexity. What could be her relationship with the Sanctum?"
- Caption in the blue box beside the bottom photo: "Vanille and Fang share the same surname 'Oerba'. Coupled with their tribal clothes, it is certain that they are different from the rest of the party. Could both of them have something to do with Pulse? Whilst their relationship is not yet certain, we can tell from the photo on the left that Fang is more dominant and a stronger character than Vanille. The grin that Fang has, compared to the perplexed and hesitant look that Vanille has, show that their characters are practically polar opposites."
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about the characters which we already know about.

Page 15
- Caption at the top for the pictures at the top: "Fang is here with Snow whilst he is being captured. He notices that Fang has the mark of a L'Cie on her right shoulder. Why is it that although she's a L'Cie, she is working with the Sanctum? Also, it is clear that her mark is very different from that possessed by Lightning, Snow, etc. Could it be that the Fal'Cie that chose her to be a L'Cie is different from the Fal'Cie that chose the rest of the L'Cies in Lightning's party?"
- The part at the bottom right corner describing Fang's character: "Despite being a L'Cie that is clearly seen as a threat to the people of Cocoon, she is known to be working hand-in-hand with the Sanctum. She has a strong and cool personality, with little care for minute details. On her left shoulder is a tribal-esque tattoo that reminds one of bestial fangs."
*Note: The black box is basically just a description of L'Cies and Fal'cies, which most of us know already. As are the rest of the black boxes, which I won't bother to translate henceforth since the purpose of the black boxes are always to explain aspects of FFXIII to people that know nothing about FFXIII, such as the Sanctum, Pulse and Cocoon, etc.
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about the characters which we already know about.

Page 16
- Topmost paragraph: "Fang here in battle shows her competitive spirit, with brutal attacks that are relentless in dishing out damage. Here we'll look more at Fang in battle."
- Portion in between the two photos: "Fang slices and dices her foes asunder with a spear that is fitted with blades on both ends; creating orange and pink slashing effects while attacking in an almost graceful manner. Even though the spear is practically as long as she is tall, she wields it so easily that one would wonder how she so easily uses it in battle despite its weight. From the way she uses her spear, it is evident that she is comfortably versed in wielding her weapon."
*Black box here just explains what we already know about roles and optimas.
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about roles which we already know about.

Page 17
- Portion at bottom left: "Fang is a very attack-based character, and is very suited to using the 'Attacker' role. Coupled with Lightning whose role is set as 'Blaster' in the above battle screenshot, it is evident that this pairing will be unstoppable as they constantly chock up chains and eventually 'Break' their opponents. Once the enemy enters 'Break' mode, the damage dealt will increase and defeating monsters will be a piece of cake."
- Part next to picture of Fang's weapon: "The weapons used by FFXIII's party members share the common trait of being able to morph into different types, and Fang's weapon is no exception. Here we can see how Fang's spear can somehow bend into 3 sticks like some kind of nunchuks."
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about roles which we already know about.

Page 18
- Topmost paragraph: "Fang's summon is Bahamut, the summon that all FF fans know and love. Here we will explore her summon in its normal state. (i.e. non-Gestahlt mode)"
- Caption for topmost photo: "Both Fang and Bahamut in their battle stances, with Cocoon serving as a backdrop."
- Blue box bit next to the photo: "Here in the photo on the right is a picture of Bahamut just as he responds to Fang's call. Here in his normal state he appears in a humanoid form just as Odin and the Shiva sisters do in their normal states. Whilst he may not be as big a summon as compared to Sazh's summon Brynhildr, he is still considerably large in size. Even though he doesn't seem to have a weapon in hand, unlike Odin who uses his dual-end swords and the Shiva sisters who uses wheels to attack, his large claws more than make up for it, which will surely cause just as much damage. Other than using his claws to attack physically, Bahamut looks as though he can use them to cast magical spells and use various techniques."
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about 'Break' mode.

Page 19
- Part on Bahamut just below his Gestahlt mode render: "Commonly know as the Dragon King Bahamut, it is no surprise that his Gestahlt mode is fittingly a mechanical dragon! He is usually known in the FF series for being one of the strongest summons in-game, capable of scorching enemies with his flames and using his unlimited powers."
- Black box which I'll translate here since it explains more about TP abilities: "If you want to find out more about your enemy, you will have to use up some TP to use the skill Libra. Summoning is also another ability that requires TP. After you summon a summon, the TP gauge disappears, and a Drive gauge appears in its place. This Drive gauge will gradually increase as your summon continually attacks. The more you accumulate in the Drive gauge, the longer you will be able to use your summon in its Gestahlt mode, and the more attacks you can do as well."
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about 'Break' mode.

Page 20
- Topmost paragraph: "Sazh's summon is the brand new and original summon Brynhildr. Whilst it reminds one of the summon Ifrit, it is a completely different summon."
- Blue bit below that: "When Brynhildr is summoned, she appears enveloped in scorching flames, with a build almost twice as large as Sazh himself, and has to be one of the largest summons. The weapon in her arms looks like some kind of axe or hammer. Other than being used for slashing at enemies, it seems to also be able to transform into a gun as can be seen in the bottom image. This summon definitely complements the gun-wielding Sazh."
- Caption for bottom photo: "Acting as Brynhildr's target practice for her gun is the Sanctum's robot creation 'Tsuveruku Street Model' (Not sure? It's basically the blue monster in the foreground?). It is a monster that is used by the Sanctum, doesn't it look quite cute?"
- Little bit at the very bottom of the page: "Once you summon a summon, the summon will take the place of the other two party members. In this case, the summon is not affected by roles and optima changes, and is AI-controlled. On the other hand, the summoner character is still affected by roles and optima, so, for example, if the summoner character is set as the 'Enhancer' role, the character will be able to buff the summon by casting spells such as Haste and Bravery."

Page 21
- Part about Brynhildr: "Her Gestahlt mode is a racing car, and Sazh will jump in and ride the car in battle. We'll explain more about it in Page 22!"
- Blue bit right above Sazh: "In Norse mythology, Brynhildr is actually like a female counterpart to the god Odin. In the game, Brynhildr can be seen to have legs that resemble high heel shoes, and also a feminine silhouette. Apparently, summons are manifestations of the summoner's inner self and personality, so what could this female appearance show about Sazh...?"

Page 22
- Topmost paragraph: "Summons do not only fight alongside you; they can also merge with you in their Gestahlt mode, and that is when their true power is unlocked!"
- Middle bit in between the two photos: "Brynhildr's Gestahlt mode will help Sazh run over all his foes! Other than spinning around on 4 wheels to deal damage to foes, her ability Caltrop Bomb involves shooting out needle-like bombs from her exhaust pipes, as well as Muspell Flame, which involves the use of the sacred flames of the mythical Muspell. (?)"
- Bit next to the small photo inset: "These floating pieces seem to be some kind of extension/additional parts of Brynhildr, which aid Brynhildr in battle by attacking foes from above."
- Black box which I will again translate as it reveals more about the Gestahlt mode: "Summons have a point system called SP (Summon Points?) This SP can be likened to the summons' HP, as it will decrease as the summon receives damage. However, SP also has the special quality of decreasing gradually as the summon battles. If you press the 'Square' button before the summons' 'SP' decreases to 0, you can have your summon enter Gestahlt mode, where the summon and the summoner will merge as one to fight in battle. In Gestahlt mode, you can input specific button combinations to use up "Kosuto" (Cost, which I assume is the number in the dial) to use various abilities. However, there is a time limit, and when your Kosuto reaches 0, your summon will be dismissed."
- Little bit at the very bottom of the page: "It was cleverly discovered by fans long before Fang was officially revealed that there was a spear icon in the weapon inventory, which hinted at the fact that the 6th character would be a spear-wielding member. In addition, each of these weapons in the demo were shown to also have a [Lv.], and this is also hinted by Toriyama that the weapons will also have some kind of growth system."

Page 23
- Blue bit below the topmost image: "Bahamut in his Gestahlt mode transforms into a mechanical dragon, and lets Fang sit on his back as they dish out damage. He uses his claws, fangs, and abilities such as Megaflare to attack all foes."
- Bit next to photo inset: "Bahamut can be seen in the photo to be emitting some kind of a fiery beam from his mouth, which has the added special effect of two ring-like insignias, hinting at the fact that this is a magic-based ability."
- Portion in the box at bottom of page: "How about the other summons and their Gestahlt modes? It has already been revealed and confirmed that Odin transforms into a horse, and the Shiva sisters transform into a motorbike. No matter what it is that they transform into, it is certain that these summons possess the ability to help you turn battles around when the going gets tough. As for Hope and Vanille's summon, it is hinted by Toriyama that they will be revealed soon. For all you know, they may turn out to be very unexpected in appearance?"
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about the history of Bahamut in the FF series.

Page 24
- Topmost paragraph: "The city of commerce Palumpolum was the stage for the TGS'09 Lightning demo, and is a large city in Cocoon. Here we will explore more about it."
- Blue bit below topmost photo: "Palumpolum is one of the largest cities in Cocoon, and is comprised of an industrial district, as well as a maze-like area of dark and narrow alleyways. In the photo above, we can see PSICOM soldiers making their rounds patrolling the city. From the looks of the casual dressing of the pedestrians, it is likely that the climate is warm yet pleasant."
- Blue bit below with te photo inset of Shiva: "It seems that this building is covered in ice; could it be the work of Snow and Shiva?
- Caption for bottommost photo: "Could the people lying in front of the frozen monument be PSICOM soldiers? This is clearly a showing of the immense power that summons possess."
- Little bit at the very bottom of the page: "When towns such as Palumpolum were first revealed, a question that popped up in many people's minds was, "How are the loading times like?". Toriyama reveals that there will only be loading times when one moves in between a town and the wilderness outside (i.e. between locales?). Once you're within a certain locale, there will only be brief transitions (I'm assuming here, because the Japanese term used by Toriyama is 'shi-muresu', which I'm guessing is 'shimmers'?) between areas. Even within a large town like Palumpolum, you can explore the entire town without having to go through any loading times."

Page 25
- Blue bit below topmost image: "These two images here show what Palumpolum looks like, and it seems that its expansive size and low buildings are suitable for aircrafts to take off, cruise, and land. Could the areas featured in the images be some sort of aircraft or train station? What about those floating things hovering above the buildings? Could it be some kind of balloon? Or maybe it has the function of advertising?"
- Caption for the second photo: "On the left side of the photo we can see some kind of escalator-shaped construction, leading to a white-coloured building in the far background, which looks somewhat majestic and significant."
- Caption for bottommost image: "Neon signs line the streets of Palumpolum, with crowds that are casually dressed as they traverse the brightly lit streets. The buildings are all man-made, but the greenery of the roadside trees can also be noticed."
- Little bit at the very bottom of the page: "When there is loading to be done, how long will it take? Toriyama expresses that from the very beginning of production, the team has been working hard at minimizing load times, so they will be as short as possible. Additionally, it is predicted that the loading space/capacity will be 500 KB and above, and the trophies will take up a space of 3080 KB and above. (Not sure about this part on the memory spaces...) Also, there will be no need to install the game onto the hard drive."

Page 26
- Topmost paragraph: "Whilst on the surface Palumpolum looks like a bustling metropolis, deep down it hides something within. What is it that Lightning seeks to uncover?"
- Caption for topmost image: "The area is filled with roadblocks upon roadblocks, with numerous PSICOM soldiers patrolling the area. What could it be that is under such heavy protection?"
- Blue bit on the right of the topmost image: "In the TGS'09 demo, you could use Lightning and Hope to explore this secret area in Palumpolum, where you tried to avoid being seen by the PSICOM soldiers in a bid to reach your destination point. Hope here leads the way; could it be that Hope is well-versed in the area because he is from Palumpolum? Also, you can explore the area seamlessly, without having to worry about troublesome loading times."
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about the TGS'09 trailer being available for watching on the official site.

Page 27
- Blue bit at the top: "Beneath Palumpolum in the underground facility, Lightning and Hope uncover the Fal'Cie. With an orange glow, butterfly-like appearance and two faces... This is indeed the Fal'Cie, the Fal'Cie that ensures Cocoon's stability, provides food for the people of Cocoon, as well as various resources too. As Lightning looks on at the Fal'Cie, she can't help but respond with hesitation."
- Blue bit with the photo inset: "What could these flans and monsters be patrolling?"
- The portion at the bottom of the page: "Although in this feature we focused only on the city of Palumpolum, there are still many more areas in Cocoon that are not yet revealed. Also, Cocoon does not only have modern metropolises, there are also areas which are more natural, such as forested areas and villages. Likewise, these areas all have their own overseeing Fal'Cies, and apparently they govern over even the climate of these areas.
- Captions for the three photos at the bottom of the page introduce other locales: "This green forest that Vanille is exploring is an area whose name is not yet revealed.", "The area featured in the FFVII Advent Children demo is an area at the border of Cocoon called Hanged Edge.", "The area that Lightning and Serah live in is a famous Cocoon tourist destination called Bodam, which is also a seaside town."
*Little bit at the very bottom of the page is just about the Episode Zero Novel which is available on the official site.

THERE I'M DONE. ^^ entrydenied will be bringing you the translation for the two interviews with Toriyama and Nomura below; it's very interesting!

des
Oct 26 2009, 02:29 PM
I've pretty much done the first couple of pages. I did I bit of the first page to really talk about Fang but couldn't get much due to no furigana/Famitsu making up kanji combinations as far as I can tell from three kanji dictionaries. They're in the main thread on the scans.

Hm, what compounds did you have problems with?

entrydenied
Oct 26 2009, 02:33 PM
Anyone doing the FFXIII interview bits on the last few pages? I can translate and post new info that wasn't translated (from the JPN Famitsu).

Astro
Oct 26 2009, 02:50 PM
entrydenied! Yes, please do the interview part with Toriyama and Nomura? I'm completing the last few pages 24 to 27 on Palumpolum right now, and could do with some help splitting the load! =) There're quite a lot of interesting bits revealed in the interview!

Saki Im
Oct 26 2009, 03:03 PM
They better release Vanille's summon soon. I cant wait any longer. T^T

entrydenied
Oct 26 2009, 03:07 PM
Only translated stuff that I think wasn't translated before.
From the interview pages.

-Fang is not very aware of that she is "mysterious" (Might also mean she's not very aware that she's sexy and aggressive).
-The summons are not really identified by their elements but more of the way or the concept behind the way they fight.
This is followed by the comment on how Bahamut is an "Aerial Something (reipa-).
-Bryhider(sp?) is a very suitable female companion to the Afro-ed Sazh. To complement him, her huge weapon can work as some sort
heavy gun and the way she fires can be quite scary. Even though the Summons into transport motif exists for all summons,
her power will make you wonder whether she really is just a car. They will reveal more about this power of hers later.
-The spinning device with the faces during Lightning's monologue with Hope is a Fal'cie that is in charge of making food.
It regulates the light needed for the produce to grow(underground) and handles the growth process as well.
There are many more such Fal'cies in the game and they have different names so do look for them while playing.
-The crystallisation of Palumpulom is the result of a spetacular entrance by Snow, Shiva and another character.
It is different from the crystallisationat Lake Binge(Sp?).
-Web novel is not just meant for reading before playing the game. It will mean even more if you read it after you complete the game.
Fang's design.
-Nomura added the red hair streaks because he thought that she looked a bit plain in CG. She was supposed to have just black hair.
-She was designed with Toriyama's idea that she should have skin colour that resembles Hispanics. Toriyama also wanted
people to have impressions of an exotic and passionate country. That was why Nomura thought that the black hair is necessary.
-I think this has been mentioned before but Fang's clothing is based on the Indian Sari. Her tattoo and scars are to
emphasise the fact that she's a warrior. She will have conflicts with Lightning throughout the game because they're both
agressive.
-Nomura didn't do the weapons this time but he was part of the group that did the auditions for seiyuus.
Other than to make sure that the voices fit, they also wanted some balance within the cast that they have i.e.
have characters that sound different from each other.
Sazh's Design.
-The initial request was for a bald and suave guy. Nomura decided to use an afro after looking at pictures of African Americans.
-He is now designed to be an air ship pilot but was supposed to be a train driver at first. Nomura looked through various designs
of pilots but most of them wear suits. He wanted Sazh to do combat in a normal jacket and loose, long pants to give
off a different feel. The cap/hat thing that he was supposed to wear was supposed to help him look more like a pilot.
Nomura was trying to find the right balance to let people know that he is a pilot/driver of sorts.
-Sazh wears a smart looking black, exercise singlet underneath his outerwear. Nomura wanted it to be white
but thought that it felt too much like daily life so he changed it to black.
-The logo on his sleeve belongs to the company he works for and was a blank space at first
;they only added the logo after designs were finalised.
-The baby chocobo started as a scribble and the team wanted him
to add it in. The scribble was because Nomura wanted some sort of partner for Sazh.
-Nomura draws his designs on A4 papers details are usually drwan out as well so they(the details) end up being small.
So accessories like Serah's pendant were drawn separately and added later.

Astro
Oct 26 2009, 03:56 PM
If I may add/explain more about what entrydenied translated...

The part about Bahamut? He's described as an "Aerial Raver", which is likely linked to the idea of a Blaster/Ravager. 'Aerial' because he actually whisks enemies into the air and attacks repeatedly in a flurry of attacks. And basically Toriyama talked about this because the question posed to him was "Does Bahamut have an assigned element like the rest of the summons?". His answer was that we should not look at the summons having specific elements, but rather at the summons as having different battle styles! Thus, I think it's actually pretty useless to think about how Odin is Lightning-based, Shiva is Ice-based, etc. I do wonder if their attacks are still elemental, though...

And Falsate, I'm sure you're happy to know that Fang does indeed have red streaks in her hair ends! =) It wasn't just the light. =P

Eighty88Eight
Oct 26 2009, 04:06 PM
Vegetation grows naturally in the location they're speaking in

Well thats a relief.

des
Oct 26 2009, 05:10 PM
Thanks a lot for translation Astro, translated some stuff for myself as practice. Nice to see that I got the right graps, however your sentences sound 100 times better than mine xD. Keep up the good work.

Ferox
Oct 26 2009, 06:34 PM
-Fang is not very aware of that she is "mysterious" (Might also mean she's not very aware that she's sexy and aggressive).

The mere fact she's unaware of her exotic demeanor makes her that much more of a badass character. :P

-The spinning device with the faces during Lightning's monologue with Hope is a Fal'cie that is in charge of making food.
It regulates the light needed for the produce to grow (underground) and handles the growth process as well.)

Just HOW MANY Fal'Cie exist in this world?!?!:blink:

She will have conflicts with Lightning throughout the game because they're both
agressive.

Ahhh. Nothing makes my heart "feel bright & warm" than a good ol' fashioned catfight. :shifty:

Saki Im
Oct 26 2009, 06:44 PM
Just HOW MANY Fal'Cie exist in this world?!?!


I think it's one for every city.

Eighty88Eight
Oct 26 2009, 06:50 PM
I think they're like councilmen, one for every department of service. They say the one under Palomporum is the food Fal'Cie. Does this mean there is a sanitation Fal'Cie? Or is that beneath them?

FinalFantasyAddict
Oct 26 2009, 07:04 PM
Whoooot thanks for the translations Whiplash, Astro and Entrydenied n.n

Squirrel Emperor
Oct 26 2009, 07:24 PM
From Dragon to Mechanical Dragon...

They probably couldn't really think of anything.

But so far...

Lightning and Feng have summons that transform in to ridable mechanical looking creatures.
Snow and Sazh have summons that transform in to ridable mechanical looking vehicles.

I bet 2 cents that Vanille will have a summon that transforms into a creature she can ride on and Hope will have a vehicle.

entrydenied
Oct 26 2009, 07:26 PM
I think they've said before that countless number of fal'cie exists. I suppose that there might be 2 main, conflicting fal'cies i.e. the Cocoon Fal'cie and the Pulse Fal'cie. And these will be the ones that command their respective world and can turn people into l'cies whereas all others have their own smaller agendas and areas of control.

des
Oct 26 2009, 07:31 PM
I wonder if the writing on all of the summons has any meaning.

MonGoloRoboKop
Oct 26 2009, 07:43 PM
Thanks for the translations lots of information i was not aware of :)

Squall_Leonhart
Oct 26 2009, 08:25 PM
Thanks for the translations guys. Some interesting new info. I don't think we had heard yet about how weapons level up. Could be kind of cool.

Slipstreamer
Oct 26 2009, 08:38 PM
They better release Vanille's summon soon. I cant wait any longer. T^T


It's Carbuncle. We've seen it in various old trailers.

Saki Im
Oct 26 2009, 08:51 PM
It's Carbuncle. We've seen it in various old trailers.

As for Hope and Vanille's summon, it is hinted by Toriyama that they will be revealed soon. For all you know, they may turn out to be very unexpected in appearance?"


Yeah, not really. It's never been confirmed.

Eighty88Eight
Oct 26 2009, 08:54 PM
Don't I recall somebody on this forum saying that Ifrit, Siren and Carbuncle were not going to be playable?

Squirrel Emperor
Oct 26 2009, 08:57 PM
They said Carbuncle, Ifrit, and Siren are in the game but won't be used in battles. They have a different role it seems.

CHINGLEE42
Oct 26 2009, 09:06 PM
Thanks for the translations.

It's amazing how many thing's you can level up in the game :

Charecter Roles
Summons Special Attacks
Weapons

I womder if the charecter level up as well or is it only the Roles?

I hope we get to find out abit more about customization options because they did mention that their will be alot of customization options in a past interview.

des
Oct 26 2009, 09:14 PM
If you check TGS videos, you dont earn EXP(or did I just forget that) and there are no character levels present in the status screens. Most likely leveling up roles will increase your stats and abilities. Like leveling up ATK = more strength and attacks, leveling up HLR = more HP and more effecient healing (well just a guss).

Falsate
Oct 26 2009, 09:29 PM
Let's not 'think' here and use what we have so we don't get people confused. By the way, I'm glad they pointed out not to look at the summons element. I always thought this was just annoying and has nothing to actually do with them other than following a tradition.

Also, I'm agreeing with des that roles will likely be the levels in this game. Oh, I do see Crystarium and wondering if it would have anything to do with the Growth system?

Theophrastus
Oct 27 2009, 02:26 AM
Astro, you are a HERO! Thank you so much!

As to Vanille's and Hope's summons: I wonder if Toriyama was being sarcastic and meant "soon" as in after the game's inevitable release "soon". lol. December isn't that far away. :P

Astro
Oct 27 2009, 02:41 AM
Haha, you're all welcome! =) Just doing my part for this FFXIII community, who has given me so much in return too! Just make sure you guys keep on finding fresh new info. and posting them here once they're out for all of us to enjoy! ;D

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 02:42 AM
Whoa, I'm late on that Astro! So she does have red streaks? That's crazy and sexy.

Astro
Oct 27 2009, 02:51 AM
Haha, yeps! I remembered from somewhere that you commented that you wished she'd have red streaks, and she does! Definitely much cooler than just plain black, huh! But actually it's quite unnoticeable... Would be better if they made it a bit redder?

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 02:57 AM
It would be awesome if they were more vibrant. Oh, I've a question about this:
"This green forest that Vanille is exploring is an area whose name is not yet revealed."

Is this the forest we always see her running through or is it the scene with Vanille looking at a flower while Sazh was talking about ending up dead?

SORA HEART
Oct 27 2009, 03:09 AM
oooooooooh astro *_____________*


may God protect you ... u make me and every one here happy ^__^ ... really u r the best

i don't know what to say ... the word (thank you) is not enough for ur work ... ^,^

i'll be back to comment about your traslate ^___*

sorry 4 my bad english ... coz my Original language is not english it's arabic ^__*

The_Geoff
Oct 27 2009, 03:11 AM
@Falsate - I think it's talking about forest that she's running through..

Astro
Oct 27 2009, 03:15 AM
It would be awesome if they were more vibrant. Oh, I've a question about this:


Is this the forest we always see her running through or is it the scene with Vanille looking at a flower while Sazh was talking about ending up dead?

Haha, yeah, in the photo it's a screen of her running through the forest, but you never know; the area where Vanille looks at flowers with Sazh could be another area in the same locale?

Astro
Oct 27 2009, 03:17 AM
Thanks for the translations.

It's amazing how many thing's you can level up in the game :

Charecter Roles
Summons Special Attacks
Weapons

I womder if the charecter level up as well or is it only the Roles?

I hope we get to find out abit more about customization options because they did mention that their will be alot of customization options in a past interview.

Oh, and about this! Yes, it is cool that you can level so many things up, but I still hope that the individual characters will still be able to level up...! Would just feel... So different if the characters don't level up any more! =\

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 03:26 AM
Then what is Crystarium? There must be a crystal that these characters can move around with on the new Sphere Grid/License Board system.

SORA HEART
Oct 27 2009, 03:53 AM
It would be awesome if they were more vibrant. Oh, I've a question about this:


Is this the forest we always see her running through or is it the scene with Vanille looking at a flower while Sazh was talking about ending up dead?

i think the first one for those who don't remember it u can see it in e3 09 trailer ^__*

YouTube - E3 09: Final Fantasy XIII Trailer

from 3:15 to 3:18 *__* just 3 seconds lol ^__^

btw i've a question ^__^ :- when sazh said " the only way of complete the focus and take up the pulse l'cie ends with us dead "

what did he mean by ( take up ) ?? did he mean ( destroy - kill ) or ( pull up - gather )

sorry 4 this question >___< .. im not that good in english so .. yeah ..

Nex
Oct 27 2009, 04:02 AM
Then what is Crystarium? There must be a crystal that these characters can move around with on the new Sphere Grid/License Board system.

It said 'Crystarium lvl. 3' at the bottom of the page, not on the specific characters, so it can't be the growth of each seperate character like the sphere grid or license board.

I don't think there's that much more than normal to level up in this game than any other FF. I think we'll still see the characters gaining actual levels, there have only ever been two FFs without it.

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 04:11 AM
We'll see what it is. I recall John Tora Volta saying the growth system deals with Crystarium last week.

i think the first one for those who don't remember it u can see it in e3 09 trailer ^__*

YouTube - E3 09: Final Fantasy XIII Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naUSBEVRLng)

from 3:15 to 3:18 *__* just 3 seconds lol ^__^

btw i've a question ^__^ :- when sazh said " the only way of complete the focus and take up the pulse l'cie ends with us dead "

what did he mean by ( take up ) ?? did he mean ( destroy - kill ) or ( pull up - gather )

sorry 4 this question >___< .. im not that good in english so .. yeah ..

It sounds like he said "Take out the Pulse L'Cie".

MagitekElite
Oct 27 2009, 04:12 AM
Great work on translating the scans, Astro. Its cool to know more about FFXIII straight through scans ^^

It came out wonderfully. It took a while to load the scans on my PC, but I'd personally like to thank you and if others were involved, for translating them. So, thank you. :)

Nex
Oct 27 2009, 04:16 AM
We'll see what it is. I recall John Tora Volta saying the growth system deals with Crystarium last week.

John Tora Volta works on the game? Crystarium must have something to do with growth, it's a main feature on the main menu and it has a level, I'm just saying it can't be for specific characters.

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 04:26 AM
Which is what I said, it must have relevance to the growth system. How do you know what it may be specific for?

MagitekElite
Oct 27 2009, 04:57 AM
I've got a question, does the last two translation links work for anyone else? Its not working for me and I was counting on reading them.

:(

The_Geoff
Oct 27 2009, 05:00 AM
Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa..

I still dont know what the fuck Crystarium is..

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 05:04 AM
Crystarium was seen on the menu in the TGS 09 Demo towards the bottom.

Astro
Oct 27 2009, 05:07 AM
I've got a question, does the last two translation links work for anyone else? Its not working for me and I was counting on reading them.

:(

You're referring to the links on my first post, is it? Funny; I tested them and it works fine. Well, alternatively you can search for them manually on Page 3 of this thread; just scroll down until you see them. BTW, you're most welcome! =)

Nex
Oct 27 2009, 05:38 AM
Which is what I said, it must have relevance to the growth system. How do you know what it may be specific for?

It can't be specific to the six characters because there's only one crystarium factor. ;) If it was like the sphere grid or license board, every character would have their own crystarium. As you can see on the menu though, it says crystarium just once down the bottom right next to optima, which suggests that it refers to the whole party (IE: not specific characters).

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 06:04 AM
The mystery.. it's mind boggling. For some weird reason, I noticed there was one factor, but felt like overlooking it anyway.

Honestly, I hope this is what is explained next or the Growth System rather.

The_Geoff
Oct 27 2009, 08:22 AM
Maybe crystarium is something like a team level.. Maybe it has something to do with the chemistry of your three party members.. The more there together, the stronger bonus's they get. =D

Okay thats not what it is.. But I think something like that might be pretty cool.
Remember I said.. 'Something' like that. Not exactly that.

jolly_green13
Oct 27 2009, 10:17 AM
pictures dont really get my excited about anything. Unless theyre of brand new stuff and not the same old crap but from a different magazine

Nex
Oct 27 2009, 11:45 AM
Eh, I'm not a big fan of speculation, the chance of it being right is almost nil. I'll just what it isn't or what it's highly likely it is. Otherwise, nothing at all.

I mean, you could throw out there that crystarium might be how much meth the characters are smoking and I'm just as likely to be right as anyone else.

Sekai
Oct 27 2009, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the news scans!

entrydenied
Oct 27 2009, 12:09 PM
Haha, yeps! I remembered from somewhere that you commented that you wished she'd have red streaks, and she does! Definitely much cooler than just plain black, huh! But actually it's quite unnoticeable... Would be better if they made it a bit redder?

The streaks are not full streaks but sort of just added to the ends of her hair. So they're hard to notice.

As for Crystarium levels, it reminds me of the stars thing that was in Chrono Cross. Every boss you fought in that game gave you a star and that was how you level up. You can never really be overpowered in that game because your level follows story progression. Unless you choose to do lots of random battles (or rather not so random ones since you can see the enemies before encountering them) to raise individual stats. Maybe it works this way here too. Perhaps the board/grid/whatever they're using this time unlocks bit by bit as you progresses through the story.

Sekai
Oct 27 2009, 12:30 PM
Then what is Crystarium? There must be a crystal that these characters can move around with on the new Sphere Grid/License Board system.

Once, Motomu Toriyama said that it would be something like we saw in Sphere Grid.



(http://translate.google.com.br/translate_s?hl=pt-BR&source=translation_link)

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 12:40 PM
Err, I hate being constrained with leveling due to Story progression. It can get fairly linear when that happens especially if there's no access to towns during the story. You know along those lines. This installment might be most complex system in any FF especially if it's going to be the hardest (by complex, I don't mean difficult to grasp, but vast).

As for the Sphere Grid/License Board, this is what I'm envisioning:
The way I'm already picturing it (this is just me), is that they'll have a large layout of special areas similar to the Sphere Grid. Each region would have it's own Combat Style where you could unlock roles. I have a feeling it'll be just like that. Paradigms that are relevant to that combat style.

For the License board part, I don't know about that. Could have something to do with weapons or perhaps Paradigm Roles too. We'll just have to see how the Growth system will be presented.

Sekai
Oct 27 2009, 01:21 PM
A Boxart with the CERO seal, maybe it's official.

http://www.unblockanything.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2ltYWdlLmNvbS5jb20vZ2FtZXNwb3 QvaW1hZ2VzL2JpZ2JveHNob3RzLzAvOTI4NzkwXzc1OTU0X2Zy b250LmpwZw%3D%3D

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 01:22 PM
It's not official. Was either a place holder or fan made (likely the latter). Anyone could slap on a CERO seal.

Sekai
Oct 27 2009, 01:25 PM
It's not official. Was either a place holder or fan made (likely the latter). Anyone could slap on a CERO seal.

Have a point. Is too worse to be the offical box...

Ferox
Oct 27 2009, 03:03 PM
Err, I hate being constrained with leveling due to Story progression. It can get fairly linear when that happens especially if there's no access to towns during the story. You know along those lines. This installment might be most complex system in any FF especially if it's going to be the hardest (by complex, I don't mean difficult to grasp, but vast).

As for the Sphere Grid/License Board, this is what I'm envisioning:
The way I'm already picturing it (this is just me), is that they'll have a large layout of special areas similar to the Sphere Grid. Each region would have it's own Combat Style where you could unlock roles. I have a feeling it'll be just like that. Paradigms that are relevant to that combat style.

For the License board part, I don't know about that. Could have something to do with weapons or perhaps Paradigm Roles too. We'll just have to see how the Growth system will be presented.

^^I sure do hope you're right. I've always wanted a growth system similar to FFX's Sphere Grid for XIII. And the twist you've added where characters will have to level up according to a particular combat style is something to definitely look forward to .:D Perhaps the reason why certain regions will be closed off once visited is to keep the game progressing at a steady pace. Like u said earlier, the game's format will a bit more difficult than previous titles. Being unable to revisit areas will add to the complexity of the game.

I just hope they'll release info on the growth system before the game's release. I hate going into a game completely blind. >_<

Ahmadhelld
Oct 27 2009, 04:53 PM
This is very good... thank you Astro :)
(http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/member.php?u=7185)

ptd
Oct 27 2009, 09:54 PM
Do we know for sure that the new system is similar to the Sphere Grid or the Liscense board?

I did love the sphere grid, but I always thought the system that would fit XIII the most was X-2's, since there's multiple "jobs" and all.

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 10:05 PM
Yes, it's been discussed that it will be a mix between the two from the team itself.

Eighty88Eight
Oct 27 2009, 10:15 PM
You sure about that? I'm fairly sure I've read the quotes you're referring to and that could have easily been misunderstood. I hope you're wrong because I hated the development systems for XII and X. The sphere grid felt completely hands off and overly simplistic, while XII just felt like a dull and truncated version of something bigger and better. You could much say the same thing about the games themselves, depending on how you feel.

Falsate
Oct 27 2009, 10:36 PM
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2009/125.html

Actualy, I'm on the opposite side of that. I hope I'm right about the Growth system being relatively close to the Sphere Grid and License Board. Both of these systems were interesting and as good as any other FF game for me.

Ofcourse, the above is Old news and who knows what they may have changed..

entrydenied
Oct 27 2009, 10:58 PM
In any case I hope that the system ends up being as sophisticated as they wanted. I had no problems with the license board when I first played FFXII but looking back now it was overly simplistic and the need to unlock permission to wear armour somehow feels like an extraneous motion. The board was definitely a truncated system as Matsuno spoke of something that sounds entirely different when he was still on board. Characters were supposed to get better at what they do by doing it more. I was expecting a sort of system that will be an advanced version of FF2's system but I guess they scrapped that. The system and the quickenings felt out of place and was never properly intergrated into the world of FF12 itself. This was surprising given how everything else fits nicely and it makes one wonder why and when exactly did they actually decide to use the license board.

Astro
Oct 30 2009, 04:50 AM
Saki Liu (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/member.php?u=3729)? Know I was supposed to translate the KH:BBS scans for you after my exams, but look what I found! The scans already translated very nicely here from KHInsider.com that I happened to chance upon.

http://www.khinsider.com/images/BirthBySleep/famitsu_091105_1_eng.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/images/BirthBySleep/famitsu_091105_2_eng.jpg
http://www.khinsider.com/images/BirthBySleep/famitsu_091105_3_eng.jpg

Don't know if you'd already seen them anyway, but thought I just put them here in case you haven't. =) I'd think the chances are, you've already seen them, haha.

BTW. WHY IS THERE NOTHING NEW ABOUT FFXIII FOR SO LONG ALREADY. =(

Falsate
Oct 30 2009, 05:09 AM
Those images aren't showing :(. Broken link?

Astro
Oct 30 2009, 06:06 AM
Weird; they work for me... Hmm; is something wrong with the way I'm posting links? O_o

Falsate
Oct 30 2009, 06:11 AM
Oh, they work now. Thanks again.

Astro
Oct 30 2009, 07:08 AM
Haha, great!

And muahaha, right after I complained about the drought of FFXIII updates, the official site gets an update! :D