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serpent
Aug 26 2009, 03:30 PM
Square Enix: maybe news on FFVII remake soon.


source
http://www.videogamer.com/news/square_enix_maybe_news_on_ffvii_remake_soon.html

some other things
http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/playstation3/final-fantasy-vii-remake-talked-about-at-square-$1321371.htm

Fur
Aug 26 2009, 04:16 PM
Oh come on now please. Please.

Heaven's Cloud
Aug 26 2009, 04:24 PM
It's only logical if they want the money, I would get to see Aerith getting ass raped in HD. Also the music in uber quality .

chaosblade77
Aug 26 2009, 04:27 PM
That sure is a lot of text for something that says nothing.

Astraia
Aug 26 2009, 04:39 PM
SE will probably do a remake eventually to keep the money rolling. :wtf:

lauryrg
Aug 26 2009, 05:05 PM
Always the same...
IŽll see the remake, when I have gray hair...

Kuja Las Vegas
Aug 26 2009, 05:06 PM
I could have sworn there was another thread about this subject...

Kurai Warrior
Aug 26 2009, 11:13 PM
It's so funny how they are money hungry whores yet they are so hesitant to re-make FF VII after so many fans around the world are practically begging for it. I would definitely buy it if they did it, I won't deny it. I just hope that they won't cut out anything except for the Cloud in drag cutscene.
Oh yes and it it happens - before 2015 release please <3

Zantetsuken
Aug 26 2009, 11:23 PM
hahaha wait....you want them to cut the cloud in drag scene? i love that part

Kurai Warrior
Aug 27 2009, 01:05 AM
Well that's just one of those things I don't want to experience in HD XD.

Little Miss Scarlett
Aug 27 2009, 01:16 AM
I would actually cry if they cut that bit out, as far as I'm concerned it's the best part out of any of the games, it would be pure tragedy not to keep it.

Plus "I'll chop them off" :wtf:

Zantetsuken
Aug 27 2009, 03:55 AM
I wonder if Don Corneo would keep his blonde mohawk or if they'd make him look more like a sleasy italian

Agent Dunham
Aug 27 2009, 04:11 AM
Anyone who wants the Cloud crossdressing bit changed for whatever piss poor reason they've yet to state needs to grow the fuck up.

Zantetsuken
Aug 27 2009, 06:10 AM
woah...why don't we calm down a bit there. no need to match the avatar

Agent Dunham
Aug 27 2009, 06:23 AM
how bout no, k. :cathryn:

ArgoXavier
Aug 27 2009, 06:26 AM
If they do a remake, no way would they change anything. They might add stuff, but they wouldn't be stupid enough to take anything out, especially the cross dressing scene.

algusbi1977
Aug 27 2009, 11:55 AM
great news

tag69
Aug 27 2009, 12:09 PM
If they do a remake, no way would they change anything. They might add stuff, but they wouldn't be stupid enough to take anything out, especially the cross dressing scene.
They will take out Tifas 2 "big girls" because now in HD it will be not allowed

Glacies
Aug 27 2009, 01:17 PM
Square Enix: maybe news on FFVII remake soon.


Did we read the same interveiw? Cuz what I got from that was: Fuck off with the remake question and play the damn game on PSN.

Larsal
Aug 27 2009, 03:21 PM
"Go, and play the PSN release of FF7" = "Go, and toss more money right into my purse."
"Perhaps we have some news for you at later times" = "Why those idiots dont accept just no remake."

King
Aug 27 2009, 03:23 PM
I hope they don't do a remake. The game is a "masterpiece" just the way it is. I think it also helps kiddies of today look back at how gaming used to be back in the 90's before blooommmmmm and movie-like in-game set pieces. If anything, Gaming is far from what it used to be, and I believe Square is also a product of this.

It's a shame that the "blockbuster" titles today have been reduced to an overflow of movie tie-ins, shitty ideas that capitalize on gimmicks or take about 6-12 hours to beat. I also hate the fact that almost all of the original games out there sell next to peanuts.

Falsate
Aug 27 2009, 08:38 PM
Pretty much what Larsal said. Except the second part will just be a heart break, no FFVII remake. Suddenly, in 2011 we get something about it.

ArgoXavier
Aug 28 2009, 12:28 AM
Maybe we are only being teased with the idea of a VII remake so no one bitches about how long SE is taking to get their shit together. If we are excited about a VII remake, we don't notice that their hasn't been a new console FF game in almost four years. Seems like a good plan to me:wtf:

otakumasterage
Aug 28 2009, 04:40 PM
I hope they do a remake eventually but I could probably wait another 10 years (I'd only be like 26). If they remake later Im sure it will be much better. Peronally I think they made crisis core too quickly so it wasnt that great. Im fine with the old one 4 now... a classic. And they'ed better NOT change anything... that would ruin it.

SANAO
Aug 30 2009, 03:57 AM
awsum news thx

Zantetsuken
Aug 30 2009, 05:50 AM
They will take out Tifas 2 "big girls" because now in HD it will be not allowed

I don't know about that. She looked pretty busty in Advent Children, she just wasn't "super deformed" like in the game.

otakumasterage
Aug 30 2009, 04:52 PM
ya and doesnt that new char Jihl have big "girls" too?

Agent Dunham
Aug 30 2009, 05:09 PM
They are heavily bound and have yet to exhibit any jiggle.

Tifa's flew in all different directions.

otakumasterage
Aug 30 2009, 05:19 PM
They are heavily bound and have yet to exhibit any jiggle.

Tifa's flew in all different directions.

Well my expectations for that character have plumeted!:lol:

Agent Dunham
Aug 30 2009, 05:36 PM
It's better this way. Easier to keep your eye on them.

And you don't get distracted with wondering if one's going to fly up and smash her teeth in.

otakumasterage
Aug 30 2009, 06:19 PM
Maybe her boobs are her weapons?

Tedius Zanarukando
Oct 03 2009, 08:33 PM
I support a Final Fantasy VII remake for PlayStation 3. It is in popular demand.I never played the original, but I did watch Advent Children. Square Enix is no stranger to remakes and has said that the remake is a possibility. It would have updated, 3D graphics and presented in 1080p resolution and have an arranged soundtrack. Aeris would be called Aerith in the remake. The original version has grammatical errors in the English translation. Therefore, the remake would have an improved English translation. The Crisis Core team would be involved in the development of the remake. The possibility of a Final Fantasy VII remake would be greater if Yoshinori Kitase's team's development schedule loosens up.

*~Jade~*
Oct 03 2009, 08:44 PM
Oh no, DON T REMAKE IT PLEASE: ;_;
Its bad enough that FF14 is online, dont remake FF7, that would be too much for me :rolleyes: I prefer FF15. FF7 is done. Just leave it alone, there are like 1224832346 sequels, isnt that enough of money making? o_o
Well, its cause i dont like FF7. But i like FF8 and i donŽt want a remake of that also. Just give me a new FF. Forget FF7 remake, give me FF13, i dont want to wait anymore :'(

Falsate
Oct 03 2009, 10:20 PM
If they ever release it, they should wait when times are bad for them. The one game people will seem to keep their eyes on especially with remakes is Final Fantasy VII. They should hold it so when times go horrible, the fans look at the older games and in this way they keep their base.

Caelignis
Oct 03 2009, 10:30 PM
Some one probably said this up there but I'm too lazy to read it so:
I just really hope the don't change anything but quality, the game was perfect (then again I haven't played it in like, 4 years :aldo:)
Posibly add a higher dificulty level (the game was hard enough but what the hell...:wtf:)

Death Penalty
Oct 03 2009, 11:05 PM
I would buy a PS3 for a remake of FFVII. Just that simple. Maybe I'm a fanboy. Well, no, I am, and I don't give a damn. I love FFVII, and seeing it brought to modern standards would delight me to no end.

Charmander
Oct 03 2009, 11:06 PM
I support a Final Fantasy VII remake for PlayStation 3. It is in popular demand.I never played the original, but I did watch Advent Children. Square Enix is no stranger to remakes and has said that the remake is a possibility. It would have updated, 3D graphics and presented in 1080p resolution and have an arranged soundtrack. Aeris would be called Aerith in the remake. The original version has grammatical errors in the English translation. Therefore, the remake would have an improved English translation. The Crisis Core team would be involved in the development of the remake. The possibility of a Final Fantasy VII remake would be greater if Yoshinori Kitase's team's development schedule loosens up.

I agree with most of this, except for the script and grammatical translations. Because no matter what anyone says, I want to hear Aerith say "This guy are sick."

And I want to hear the a in Jenova when she says "Be-A-cause Cloud... You are a Puppet.."

Some one probably said this up there but I'm too lazy to read it so:
I just really hope the don't change anything but quality, the game was perfect (then again I haven't played it in like, 4 years :aldo:)
Posibly add a higher dificulty level (the game was hard enough but what the hell...:wtf:)

I hope you mean graphical quality because otherwise you just contradicted yourself.

gmoya909
Oct 03 2009, 11:13 PM
Square Enix: maybe news on FFVII remake soon.


source
http://www.videogamer.com/news/square_enix_maybe_news_on_ffvii_remake_soon.html

some other things
http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/formats/playstation3/final-fantasy-vii-remake-talked-about-at-square-$1321371.htm

am suprise there actually thinking about it before it was like never gonna happen but noting of suprise as of now still they say we will see after agito.

should be 8 instead of 7 but all newbs want 7 so it's a win

Egralainos
Oct 03 2009, 11:14 PM
imagine if the FFVII remake had the capability of the motion controller.I get the feeling the motion controller will be quite a big thing in the future.So imagine the bike mini-game with really good graphics, and you killing soldiers with your sword with the swing of your motion controller (maybe)

I would prefer FFVII to be on Play Station 4.That system would most probably have the capacity to have scenes like Advent Children (maybe)

There's too many maybes in this topic

Tedius Zanarukando
Oct 03 2009, 11:54 PM
This console generation will last longer than the previous one, and Nintendo will most likely kick off the next console generation. The PS4 will probably launch between 2013 and 2016. Therefore, there is a good possibility that we will get both a Final Fantasy VII remake and Final Fantasy XV on the PS3, but Egralainos opinion on this is fine with me. Final Fantasy VII's original staff and the Crisis Core and Advent Children staves will develop the Final Fantasy VII remake, while the Final Fantasy XII staff will develop Final Fantasy XV.

Caelignis
Oct 04 2009, 12:02 AM
I hope you mean graphical quality because otherwise you just contradicted yourself.


Of course I mean graphic quality...:wtf:

R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 04 2009, 12:05 AM
If they remake FFVII they're going to retcon in all the compilation bullshit. It would ruin the story and characters of what was once one of the best games ever made. If they could remake it without doing that then I'd be more than happy to see it done, but as it stands, they're too invested in the additions put into the compilation to make it without them.
If they do remake it, I won't be buying it or playing it, although I have no doubt my gf will buy purely because it has Aeris. =/

caller_of_BS
Oct 04 2009, 06:19 AM
I support a Final Fantasy VII remake for PlayStation 3. It is in popular demand.I never played the original, but I did watch Advent Children. Square Enix is no stranger to remakes and has said that the remake is a possibility. It would have updated, 3D graphics and presented in 1080p resolution and have an arranged soundtrack. Aeris would be called Aerith in the remake. The original version has grammatical errors in the English translation. Therefore, the remake would have an improved English translation.

If they do remake it, I hope they change none of the script. Grammical errors and all. I will always know and refer to Aerith as Aeries

And if you are gaging your expectations of a remake to be like Advent Children... the original game had absolutely nothing to do with AC. Tone, characters and setting all changed with that abomination. I hope, if they do remake it, that they don't do it just so they can pretty it up and 'improve' on it with animated cutscenes. You ruin the characters and scenes by doing that.

I say a remake, but only in the form of the current DS remakes. Same game, only improved sprites and surrounding graphics, with a few tweaks to the battle system. No extra, directed cutscenes or any of that crap.

Falsate
Oct 04 2009, 09:42 AM
DS remake would fit however it was made on Playstation. Peoplewant graphic updates, but with those updates comes random encounters a full blown lush environment. In this way, it would pretty much be something like FFX.

FFXIII is also another system awfully close to FFVII, but with enemies on the screen. All because of the transition screens they are able to fix what could be many flaws within the game.

Thula
Oct 04 2009, 10:12 AM
Its bad enough that FF14 is online, dont remake FF7,Wat? How are these thing even remotely related?

Silvie
Oct 04 2009, 12:43 PM
VII is my favorite game in the series, and I'll admit that I would definitely buy it if they re-made the game for PS3, but as it stands, I do not support a remake of the game.

I can already picture them throwing in all of the retcon bullshit from the Compilation, and just ruining it. I think the original game is just amazing the way it is, even with little imperfections like grammatical errors. Those things are pretty insignificant, and I overlook them anyway, I think they help make the game what it is.

I also don't even begin to compare that piece of shit Advent Children with the actual game. The two are so different. AC is pretty, sure, but it just stands as a symbol of how they chose to screw up the universe's canon to me. D:

*~Jade~*
Oct 04 2009, 05:00 PM
Wat? How are these thing even remotely related?

Online FF = bad
FF7 Remake = bad
bad = not good news
2 not good news = too much for my little heart :rolleyes:

Well you dont have to understand my logic xD

ShikamaruNara
Oct 04 2009, 05:00 PM
CC and DoC retconned quite a bit, AC had exactly one: Rufus being alive.

R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 04 2009, 05:01 PM
CC and DoC retconned quite a bit, AC had exactly one: Rufus being alive.

Are you fucking joking? Seriously? Just one thing retconned in AC?

Tedius Zanarukando
Oct 04 2009, 05:09 PM
Online FF = bad
FF7 Remake = bad
bad = not good news
2 not good news = too much for my little heart :rolleyes:

Well you dont have to understand my logic xD

Your logic is purist nonsense. Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3 is great news for me, but a Final Fantasy VII remake for DS is bad news for me. Online Final Fantasy game is trivial news for me. The Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3 is high demand, and the majority of fans support it. Nintendo DS is out of the question for Final Fantasy VII.

*~Jade~*
Oct 04 2009, 05:21 PM
Your logic is purist nonsense. Final Fantasy VII remake for PS3 is great news for me

Like i said, thats just my logic and my opinion. Everyone sees everything from a different point of view :P

ShikamaruNara
Oct 04 2009, 11:22 PM
Are you fucking joking? Seriously? Just one thing retconned in AC?

Yes. Unless you can actually list others.

Fenryr
Oct 05 2009, 10:31 AM
I think the whole of AC was fantastic so I have no quarrel with a remake on grounds of bad spin-offs. The only spin-off I was slightly weirded out by was the DoC, but I hardly hate it. I'd enjoy a remake, I wouldn't take it for ruining the original as I would experience it as an entirely different game. I love the original, yet I could have a different opinion on a remake.

I disagree entirely with a DS remake or any handheld remake however. People want a remake in the most up to date graphics to experience the Final Fantasy 7 world in all it's glory. People do not want to be squinting at a small screen, that's not glory especially not for a remake of such standards. That's not the remake people are waiting for, and if you think it is then you my good sir are a unobserving boob who is out of touch with the wishes of everyone who DOESN'T care for elitist "DON'T REMAKE MY GAME, IN 2-BIT GRAPHICS IT WAS BETTER" bullshit.

Srsly.

Falsate
Oct 05 2009, 10:37 AM
^Oh man, sock it to `em. People over-exaggerate as if they don't want to see the graphics updated when they damn well want to. Trying to play it all cool and easy lol.

spirawase
Oct 05 2009, 11:50 AM
CC and DoC retconned quite a bit, AC had exactly one: Rufus being alive.

CC and DoC retconned a bit, as far as Sephiroth's backstory was concerned, his friendships with Angeal and Genesis.. and the whole Project G crisis.. which was entirely not mentioned in the actual story, but probably was a major enough incident to have left an impression.

DoC's retcon was the purpose of the WEAPONS as well as the whole Chaos and Omega thing..

AC didn't really retcon anything. Rufus being alive was not a fact that was changed, it was an assumption..

anything that was added that filled out an unknown isn't really a retcon. it would only be if a clearly established fact was changed.

R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 05 2009, 03:37 PM
I think the whole of AC was fantastic

Then you're clearly a moron
CC and DoC retconned a bit, as far as Sephiroth's backstory was concerned, his friendships with Angeal and Genesis.. and the whole Project G crisis.. which was entirely not mentioned in the actual story, but probably was a major enough incident to have left an impression.

DoC's retcon was the purpose of the WEAPONS as well as the whole Chaos and Omega thing..

AC didn't really retcon anything. Rufus being alive was not a fact that was changed, it was an assumption..

anything that was added that filled out an unknown isn't really a retcon. it would only be if a clearly established fact was changed.
Clearly established facts were changed all over the place. The timeline was changed, inconsistencies were added all over the place, random bullshit was thrown in and they didn't even try and make it fit. The whole compilation is one jumbled up massive clusterfuck of random, disjointed story elements that don't fit.
Also, if you believe half of what you wrote, then you too, are a moron.

ShikamaruNara
Oct 05 2009, 04:20 PM
DoC DID retcon. There is no escaping that. Let's summarise. Hojo witnessed Vincent transform into Choas, during their fight. this led him to realize that Lucretia was right and Chaos exists, he therefore figured that Omega must exist as well. Then he decided that he wanted to be the host for Omega so he can become all powerful and to ready his body for this injected his body with Jenova cells. But we defeated him and as instead he downloaded his conciousness onto the internet in search of better body so he can possess him instead.

So let's see where we're at now. In FFVII we confront Hojo, who is trying to help Sephiroth and injected himself with Jenova cells himself. we defeat him end of story.

But now we confronted Hojo, before he injected himself with Jenova cells, the skinny old scientist was apparently powerful enough to push Vincent to use his best limit break. Then, like the total badass that Hojo is, and Sephiroth could never dream of being, Hojo starts fighting of cloud, Chaos transformed Vincent and you third party member, while reviewing data. While we are absolutely making no head way in this fight Hojo has confirmed his hypothesis and, while still fight your weak ass off, goes off to his laberatory to get some Jenova Cells to inject himself with.

Then the newly empowered Hojo finally decides to give us his full attention.

Well it's not really explained but somehow we got lucky and defeated this, firmly established superior opponent. Then, after getting stabbed and shot the crap out off, Hojo ingers onto his life for several days and then during Meteorfall finally wakes up in time to download himself onto the internet.

Charmander
Oct 07 2009, 03:42 AM
If FFVII were remade, and it's still a pretty big if, there would be, a lot of retconning. But I think people who are saying that it would ruin the original game are just giant bumfucked fanboys bawwwwing over nothing. It's a remake. It's not a replacement. There's a huge difference. Just because a remake exists doesn't mean you can't play the original. If you don't like it, don't play it then.

Because there's a lot of hype and expectations going around about a remake... the graphics have to be perfect and up to date, the retconning fixed without taking about the original story at hand, side quests or no side quests, more materia or a different materia system all together, a different music score or just an updated mp3 version of everything else? There's so many things to consider, and it's probably less about time management than it is about pleasing the fans to get it perfect.

Because if they don't, then you get the exact same bawwww fest you have here.

raysai
Oct 13 2009, 05:26 PM
Why are people complaining about retcon? The consensus is we want a remake. To re-make the original story and game with today's technology, giving it a new fresh breath and giving us a new look at an old classic; not a re-do.

Sure, it'd be nice to have a re-do that makes every new story element fit, but then I have a feeling it will take away from the whole purpose of a remake: nostalgia and appreciation for what it was and what FFVII did for the RPG and gaming world

I think there's 2 camps when it comes to this (surprisingly) controversial topic of a FFVII remake

1. those that want to see the game simply re-made with better graphics; maybe more cutscenes with blu-ray's added capacity, remastered music, more emotion conveyed through the characters now with voice acting and detailed facial expressions in the characters, racing their gold chocobos at the Golden Saucer in HD; keeping the integrity of the original (hell i'd even like the same battle system and awkward mini-games like that boxing one in Golden Saucer)

2. those that want a re-do; fix the story gaps and retcon issues which may in the end create a whole new type of FF game altogether. The problem with this is no one really knows how well this will be received compared to the original. You just might lose the magic that the original had with new things appearing out of sync with the original (save some amazing storytelling on SE's part)

In the end, I'm in the first camp. I don't really care for SE to fix any retcon issues simply because I want a remake for nostalgia and appreciation purposes; knowing what's coming next and at the same time wondering how good it's going to look and pan out on the PS3. I want to re-live the re-designed (yet still true to the original) world in HD and be amazed at what FFVII could have been.

And lastly...

It's coming. Without a doubt. If SE knows what's good for them. There isn't a forum on the internet right now that doesn't have this topic alive and bustling with world opinions.

/banter

Death Penalty
Oct 13 2009, 05:31 PM
Then you're clearly a moron

PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH ME MUST CLEARLY BE MENTALLY DEFICIENT!

EDIT: Also, the pokemon speaks truth.

Little Miss Scarlett
Oct 13 2009, 05:45 PM
Seems a little pointless to me to remake it, then not change anything. If they really do bother remaking it, then I think they ought to really harshly critique the original, then anywhere they they think it can be improved, go for it. Along with the obvious graphics update, script rewrite etc.. And as long as they keep Cloud in a dress and Barret in a sailor suit. I liked most of the retconning, to be honest.

People are gonna complain no matter what they do, so might as well take some risks. The original game'll still be there if it sucks.

Death Penalty
Oct 13 2009, 05:55 PM
Yeah, most of the story rewrites were inoffensive and interesting, but you'll never ever please all of your fans with things like that. Even if the changes were utterly and totally awesome and made perfect sense, there would be a division of fanboys and girls up in arms and foaming at the mouth because they dared make any changes.

Charmander
Oct 13 2009, 06:00 PM
See though, as soon as I read that, small details that need to be fixed with retcon came into mind.

The whole Project G thing... In Crisis Core it seemed to be really underwraps and that in the original game, we shouldn't know about it in the first place. But whose to say that a few scattered pages couldn't be found in the Shinra Mansion concerning Project G, or that Hojo could manically and offhandedly mention it to Vincent and co. and then drop it and go back to fixing the Sister Ray? Really, a lot of the new information could simply be slipped in the game somewhere, and that way it's not completely ignored but still alludes to the other games. CC gave us a bunch of new areas, some of which were destroyed later to show us they didn't exist in the original game.... but maybe the group could come across Ruins, and lo! Old Banora.

Retconning wouldn't be hard, it's simply a matter of picking and choosing how to allude to some information and what to do with newly introduced characters and what they're doing so and so many years later now.

That said, really, I think the main FFVII Fanbase's gripe would be the voice acting. Particularily Ms. Aerith who's had a couple VA's, one of which was perfect (Andrea Bowen), another sub par and used as Celebrity eye candy (Mandy Moore), and one who was just... bad (Mina Suvari).

EDIT: Also, the pokemon speaks truth.

:awesome:

Ariana
Oct 13 2009, 07:03 PM
That said, really, I think the main FFVII Fanbase's gripe would be the voice acting. Particularily Ms. Aerith who's had a couple VA's, one of which was perfect (Andrea Bowen), another sub par and used as Celebrity eye candy (Mandy Moore), and one who was just... bad (Mena Suvari).


This! Personally, I love Andrea Bowen's Aerith, since she sounds light and airy yet serious at the same time. She pulls it off without a doubt. Mandy Moore wasn't bad, but if you look at the rest of the Kingdom hearts cast you'll know why she was chosen. Those games had pretty much 1/4 of Hollywood in them, so it made sense.

Ah, and finally we come to Mena. I'm sorry, but she was terrible. It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if she could just give a hint of an emotion when she voiced Aerith.

Btw, I'm not a huge fan of Steve Burton as Cloud, or Rachel Leigh Cook as Tifa either. They didn't do a bad job, I just didn't picture their voices being that way, although Steve Burton fits the bill a little bit better than Rachel Leigh Cook does.

chaosblade77
Oct 13 2009, 07:24 PM
Seems a little pointless to me to remake it, then not change anything. If they really do bother remaking it, then I think they ought to really harshly critique the original, then anywhere they they think it can be improved, go for it. Along with the obvious graphics update, script rewrite etc.. And as long as they keep Cloud in a dress and Barret in a sailor suit. I liked most of the retconning, to be honest.

People are gonna complain no matter what they do, so might as well take some risks. The original game'll still be there if it sucks.
You make it sound like they would do it for the sake of the game's fans. FFVII will get remade without a doubt (as will every other numbered FF game at some point), the only question is when and for what platform. This generation? I doubt it, they'll probably make FFXV instead.

How do we know they'll remake it?
1. It's stupidly popular and will sell millions of copies. No question.
2. Most of the preproduction work is already done. Characters are designed, plot is written, scenerio is planned, etc.
3. Directors have shown interest. There have been numerous interviews where Kitase has said they've talked about it and want to do it. I doubt Wada would turn them down.

I agree with you though, when it gets remade I'd rather them mix things up a bit. It seems like a waste to remake a game and leave it exactly as it originally was aside from beefed up graphics. If I wanted to play the original game, I would.

Death Penalty
Oct 13 2009, 07:24 PM
Mena Suvari did indeed totally suck as Aerith. Hard. I'm not sure who played the Crisis Core Aerith, but that one was just fine by me. Personally, I agree on Tifa's voice actor. She was passable, sure, but she didn't really click with me as Tifa. Ah well, I could still totally live with her, and I actually liked Cloud's voice.

To me, the biggest plus to the Final Fantasy VII voice actors is the fact that Steve Blum has secured the voice of Vincent. Just perfect, in my eyes.

Charmander
Oct 13 2009, 09:05 PM
This! Personally, I love Andrea Bowen's Aerith, since she sounds light and airy yet serious at the same time. She pulls it off without a doubt. Mandy Moore wasn't bad, but if you look at the rest of the Kingdom hearts cast you'll know why she was chosen. Those games had pretty much 1/4 of Hollywood in them, so it made sense.

Ah, and finally we come to Mena. I'm sorry, but she was terrible. It wouldn't have been nearly as bad if she could just give a hint of an emotion when she voiced Aerith.

The problem I found with Suvari was that it seemed like she tried too hard. She probably thought Aerith was this delicate flower who showed no sign of emotion other than happiness and gratitude. If you listen to Suvari in interviews and see her in movies, her voice is nothing like the light Aerith voice she portrayed. I think if she acted more natural and real, she would have made a very good Aerith.

But for now, given the fact that SE has cycled through 3 Aerith's, it makes me wonder if they'd try for a 4th or stick with one of the ones they have now for the remake. They've obviously listened to the fans and picked up on it themselves when they heard/realized that neither Aerith has been very good so far, bar Andrea Bowen. And Bowen is in her late teens, I think she could still pass as FFVII Aerith if she matures her voice, only a bit.

You make it sound like they would do it for the sake of the game's fans. FFVII will get remade without a doubt (as will every other numbered FF game at some point), the only question is when and for what platform. This generation? I doubt it, they'll probably make FFXV instead.

Sadly VII:Re will be on the PS4 so we won't see it for a while. SE has remade... what... FF's 1, 2, 3, 4... and 5? Or not 5 yet? They'll probably continue it numerically, working on 5, then 6 and then 7 putting most work into it.

To me, the biggest plus to the Final Fantasy VII voice actors is the fact that Steve Blum has secured the voice of Vincent. Just perfect, in my eyes.

Am I the only one who didn't completely love Blum? I thought he was TOO dark and scary for Vincent. I enjoyed his Turk Vincent voice moreso than regular Vincent. *shrug*

Death Penalty
Oct 13 2009, 09:26 PM
Am I the only one who didn't completely love Blum? I thought he was TOO dark and scary for Vincent. I enjoyed his Turk Vincent voice moreso than regular Vincent. *shrug*

I may be a little skewed because Blum is one of my favorite voice actors, but I really found him perfect for the dark persona that is Vincent. Turk Vincent was good for Turk Vincent, but I think he would be a little too softspoken for present day Vincent. That's just me, though! I must be easy to please with voices seeing as I don't hate Snow's voice like everyone else.

Charmander
Oct 13 2009, 09:31 PM
Ahh, but I love Snow's voice as well. Who knows. Everybody seems to love Blum as Vincent, but even though he is all dark and scary and vampirey or whatever... I still thought the raspy voice was too much and could have been a bit clearer.

Falsate
Oct 13 2009, 09:31 PM
They haven't remade FFV yet, but I hope they do. I just got through playing that last week which has a bigass cliched storyline.

The Job System has to be the most epic thing ever...

Anyway, Steve Blum needs to be given a friggin award for that one man.

chaosblade77
Oct 13 2009, 11:52 PM
Ahh, but I love Snow's voice as well. Who knows. Everybody seems to love Blum as Vincent, but even though he is all dark and scary and vampirey or whatever... I still thought the raspy voice was too much and could have been a bit clearer.
The raspiness was probably an added effect. Blum has the problem of always sounding the exact same in every role he does. Vincent is one of the rare cases where he sounds a bit different. Good voice actor, but he seems to lack versatility.

Sadly VII:Re will be on the PS4 so we won't see it for a while. SE has remade... what... FF's 1, 2, 3, 4... and 5? Or not 5 yet? They'll probably continue it numerically, working on 5, then 6 and then 7 putting most work into it.
Yep, no 5 yet. I'd rather them put more effort into 6 than 7 though since I prefer it by quite a large margin. It will probably end up on the DS or PSP though :(

Falsate
Oct 13 2009, 11:55 PM
What is so bad about both of them? 5 and 6 will end up being on either of those systems.

I wouldn't put my money on FF7 being on the PSP.

Charmander
Oct 14 2009, 01:14 AM
The raspiness was probably an added effect. Blum has the problem of always sounding the exact same in every role he does. Vincent is one of the rare cases where he sounds a bit different. Good voice actor, but he seems to lack versatility.


Yep, no 5 yet. I'd rather them put more effort into 6 than 7 though since I prefer it by quite a large margin. It will probably end up on the DS or PSP though :(

I dunno, I don't really remember him from anything else so I can't judge, but eh.. *shrug*

And yeah, I'd rather see 6 made and maybe even made for the PSP with better graphics and VA but with the direction they've gone with others it seems like it'll be on the DS =/ But it would be so silly for them to do 7 on a portable.

Death Penalty
Oct 14 2009, 04:09 AM
The raspiness was probably an added effect. Blum has the problem of always sounding the exact same in every role he does. Vincent is one of the rare cases where he sounds a bit different. Good voice actor, but he seems to lack versatility.

Dude, he voiced Guilmon in the Digimon anime when I was a kid. Don't tell me he has no versatility!

Ariana
Oct 14 2009, 04:27 AM
Dude, he voiced Guilmon in the Digimon anime when I was a kid. Don't tell me he has no versatility!

Yeah, Guilmon vs. Vincent. Kind of a big difference. Anyways, He does a sexy-as-hell Vincent voice.

All kidding aside though, he was really good in my book, and so was Andrea Bowen. If she can mature her voice by only a couple of years, she could definitely fit as FFVII timeline Aerith. Then again, by the time they start the remake, she'll have already hit that age, so I don't think it'll be a problem. I only hope they don't recycle another Aerith, especially when this one's the best one so far.

Also, glad you see what I mean about Tifa. She isn't horrible, she's quite passable, but I don't want passable in a franchise like this. I want rock-my-socks amazing, or at least very good. It's what, 2009 now? Voice acting is a huge part of games now, especially from Square Enix.

Masa-Mune
Oct 14 2009, 08:14 AM
I think this topic will rage on until se just remakes it already and shuts everyone up . Bc people will be too busy playing the game to comment on a the remake. I don't even know what im talking about there wooops.

Actually ive thought about it and about 10 mins after everyone gets the game a new ff7 related thread will appear , it will contain all the complaints and pointless bitching of the people who begged for a remake in the first place. Your damned if you do , damned if you don't. SE cant win either way as far as i am concerned. Granted i guess they will win bc they will sell a shit ton of copies if a remake of ff7 was made.


I need to stop smoking right now!

R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 14 2009, 01:21 PM
PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH ME MUST CLEARLY BE MENTALLY DEFICIENT!

EDIT: Also, the pokemon speaks truth.

Actually it's more a case of people who fall for Squenix's money spinning shit (which has no other purpose than to generate massive amounts of cash with no regard to the story it's based on) must clearly be mentally deficient.

EDIT: The Pokemon is also a moron.

spirawase
Oct 14 2009, 02:17 PM
Actually it's more a case of people who fall for Squenix's money spinning shit (which has no other purpose than to generate massive amounts of cash with no regard to the story it's based on) must clearly be mentally deficient.

EDIT: The Pokemon is also a moron.

aren't all video games made for that purpose? you're not making any logical point by stating the obvious.

srsly.

the retcons don't matter to the original game. they could make everything the same, up to the extent of 'This guy are sick' and the story would still flow. inconsistencies created in the storyline between compilation titles or between them and the core FFVII doesn't require that they change VII at all. In that sense, it doesn't need a remake because of retcons.. but it could use a style update.

Death Penalty
Oct 14 2009, 03:43 PM
Actually it's more a case of people who fall for Squenix's money spinning shit (which has no other purpose than to generate massive amounts of cash with no regard to the story it's based on) must clearly be mentally deficient.

EDIT: The Pokemon is also a moron.

Sorry you're so butthurt about the compilation friend, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't good. It means, considering general praise, that you can't get past incredibly minor inconsistencies and perceived slights to the original content and the fans.

Insults are the way to go in any discussion! You're cool!

EDIT:Also, the dude above me is quite right. Videogames are a business. If they remake FFVII, they will cash in. And however you feel about the title, its retcons, whatever little gripe you have, the remake would be a quality game. Period. There hasn't been a single mainstream Final Fantasy that hasn't been; even the ones I didn't like were beautiful, deep and obviously well-made.

Kuja Las Vegas
Oct 14 2009, 05:30 PM
To hell with this, they should remake in glorious 3D the greatest game of all time: Chrono Trigger.

Naunen
Oct 15 2009, 01:17 AM
To hell with this, they should remake in glorious 3D the greatest game of all time: Chrono Trigger.

----For once, I agree with this. I'm just gonna go play my original copy of FFVII again.

Falsate
Oct 15 2009, 01:39 AM
I don't know about Chrono Trigger. I mean it'd probably end up looking relatively close to DQ8..

Still, I'm a bit skeptical about a FF7 remake. FF10 just instantly pops up inside my head. :\

Death Penalty
Oct 15 2009, 02:45 AM
I don't know about Chrono Trigger. I mean it'd probably end up looking relatively close to DQ8..

Still, I'm a bit skeptical about a FF7 remake. FF10 just instantly pops up inside my head. :\

Maybe if they changed the art around I'd go for it. Chrono Trigger was a wonderful game, no doubt about it, but its art direction was greatly aided by the fact that the game was still in pixels.

Charmander
Oct 15 2009, 02:47 AM
Actually it's more a case of people who fall for Squenix's money spinning shit (which has no other purpose than to generate massive amounts of cash with no regard to the story it's based on) must clearly be mentally deficient.

EDIT: The Pokemon is also a moron.

butthurt fanboy wankstain <3

Sorry you're so butthurt about the compilation friend, but just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't good. It means, considering general praise, that you can't get past incredibly minor inconsistencies and perceived slights to the original content and the fans.

Most of the compilation was, actually bad tho imo as well. Most of us haven't/can't play BC because SE were wankstains for leaving it on the Jap phones... DoC just seemed like really really bad fanfiction. AC was so bad the first time SE felt the need to redo it, just with even more excess crap and Tifa boob jiggle. The only compilation title worth playing/watching is CC for excess story to the past, pretty graphics and half naked Zack.

I don't know about Chrono Trigger. I mean it'd probably end up looking relatively close to DQ8..

Still, I'm a bit skeptical about a FF7 remake. FF10 just instantly pops up inside my head. :\

Yes, because a game with already good graphics that's been out half the time of VII really needs a remake? :cookie:

Death Penalty
Oct 15 2009, 02:54 AM
Most of the compilation was, actually bad tho imo as well. Most of us haven't/can't play BC because SE were wankstains for leaving it on the Jap phones... DoC just seemed like really really bad fanfiction. AC was so bad the first time SE felt the need to redo it, just with even more excess crap and Tifa boob jiggle. The only compilation title worth playing/watching is CC for excess story to the past, pretty graphics and half naked Zack.

I liked Advent Children just fine, DoC was meiocre, and Crisis Core is still one of the best games on the PSP. Having not played BC, I just gotta say that two outta three ain't bad in my book.

Charmander
Oct 15 2009, 02:58 AM
AC was fairly random, and I think that if they hadn't released it so soon and completed it the first time, it would have been better. To me the 'complete' version wasn't very complete just more death talk, more random Denzel and more Sephiroth rape.

Genesis Hatake
Oct 15 2009, 04:15 AM
i noticed with ACC some scenes were from crisis core i still enjoyed the movie though was better than original AC anyway but would be kool to see the remake of FF7 would be kool either on psp or ps3 id rather ps3 and xbox 360 like they are doing with FF13 so every1 can get a good enjoyment out of it

Death Penalty
Oct 15 2009, 04:46 AM
i noticed with ACC some scenes were from crisis core i still enjoyed the movie though was better than original AC anyway but would be kool to see the remake of FF7 would be kool either on psp or ps3 id rather ps3 and xbox 360 like they are doing with FF13 so every1 can get a good enjoyment out of it

Punctuation is your friend! It won't hurt you!

Naunen
Oct 15 2009, 04:48 AM
Punctuation is your friend! It won't hurt you!

----stfu He can't say something if you're having a conversation? It was just a reply to the thread. :rolleyes:

Death Penalty
Oct 15 2009, 05:06 AM
----stfu He can't say something if you're having a conversation? It was just a reply to the thread. :rolleyes:

Run on sentences cause me physical pain. I thought this community would understand me. D:

Charmander
Oct 15 2009, 01:56 PM
final fantasy vii is a super cool game pretty grafiks and tifa boobs makes the movie more engoyble to wach sephiroth stabs pple n maeks them bleed evrywhur arith is ded and cant cum bak but she duz wich caus drama but newai i like cloud eh dies and comes bak and doesnt afraid of anything

Tiger Lily
Oct 15 2009, 03:03 PM
I'd definitely buy it. Hope it'll be released PS3 exclusive. ^_^

Fur
Oct 15 2009, 03:17 PM
I'd definitely buy it. Hope it'll be released PS3 exclusive. ^_^
>:/ *shrugs*

Ariana
Oct 15 2009, 03:35 PM
I'd definitely buy it. Hope it'll be released PS3 exclusive. ^_^

I couldn't care less if it's an exclusive, since if they were to do it multiplatform it would have the chance to make more money. More money = better chance of it being developed in the first place, so I'll be content whether or not it's a PS3 exclusive.

Tiger Lily
Oct 15 2009, 03:48 PM
I couldn't care less if it's an exclusive, since if they were to do it multiplatform it would have the chance to make more money. More money = better chance of it being developed in the first place, so I'll be content whether or not it's a PS3 exclusive.

Multiplatform sometimes means the original product would have to sacrifice certain aspects of the game (i.e- graphics, performance, release delay) to conpensate for the other platform. Developers, most of the time, want both consumers to enjoy the exact same content; ergo minute quality cutbacks.

Plus, I'm just a PS3 whore. :P

cubanboy18
Oct 15 2009, 05:18 PM
Lets see...theve already remade every final fantasy up to 4 so...wouldnt they have to do 5 and 6 next? I played 5, worst story and main characters ever for a RPG, but 6 was a genuinely good game. I wouldnt mind playing six with updated graphics.

inoeex
Oct 15 2009, 05:31 PM
I am not in the mood to make quotes ^_^
to those u said FF7CC as not great cuz SE made it in a little time, I have to say that I felt great satisfaction when I finished CC comparing to FF12 ! it made me feel like I am playing a FF game while FF12 was a great RPG !

Vincent is not a Vampire ! he is more like an Undead !

Kitase said that if they will be a Remake, Nomura has to be the director and we know he is already busy with Versus. maybe after Versus they will work on FF7 Re, while the other team is working on FF15.

if they Remake the game it will get the M rating ! can u imagine these scenes on a super quality grahphic ? the scene when Cloud was hitting Aerith, or the scene Sphiroth killed Aerith or the other one; when Cloud was confused abt who he is and Tifa was helping him with that issue ..... these scenes will effect players specialy if the player has some mental dissorders, I mean no offence ! ppl has some problems and dissords in their life its obvios .

and there are some stupid scences like that dressing scene or that whorehouse !

I am pretty sure if they remake the game, they will work more on the story for other characters like Yufie, Cid or even Vincent ! FF7 has a great story, they have the 3D models from AC so they can spend their time to improve and reform the story and ofc to make the game ! if this goin to happen I want to see it as a PS3 exclusive !!!! no dount abt it !!!:nag:
in my opinion FF7 tech demo >>>>>> FF13, but why ? cuz FF13 is a multi game now ?

Death Penalty
Oct 15 2009, 06:33 PM
final fantasy vii is a super cool game pretty grafiks and tifa boobs makes the movie more engoyble to wach sephiroth stabs pple n maeks them bleed evrywhur arith is ded and cant cum bak but she duz wich caus drama but newai i like cloud eh dies and comes bak and doesnt afraid of anything

You are a mean person. D:

Honestly, I'd like to see this game remade for lots of reasons, but one that's pretty prominent is seeing them remake Knights of the Round. Just look at Crisis Core and how awesomely beefed up those old FF summons were. In fact, seeing the summons all redone (FFVII had a good amount) would be awesome.

Charmander
Oct 15 2009, 06:37 PM
<3

Yeah, remake the game only for the summons. Never mind seeing Cloud in drag or Aerith shinked in high hes, but the summons. :cookie:

In all likelyhood, SE probably would PS3/4/5/18 exclusive it.

Death Penalty
Oct 15 2009, 06:46 PM
Damn straight the summons! They're the only reason that I play Final Fantasy and put up with all these gay characters and stupid-ass plotlines! ;)

As for it being PS exclusive, I'd reserve judgment there. FFXIII was supposed to be too. Depending on how the 360 version of XIII does, I bet things will or will not start drifting towards total multiplatform...dom.

You think Aerith will bleed this time?

Charmander
Oct 15 2009, 07:12 PM
I wanna see a Fat Chocobo in HD. :awesome:

Well I dunno, VII was the game that made SS switch from Nintendo to PS because of the game's capacity. I think out of anything, VII: Re would be the one for them to stay PS3 exclusive so they could put anything and everything into it, and maybe even make it multi disk at the same time. Because xBox may/not hinder it.

Hrm... that's also another tough call on them. The Re would be a lot more mature so I don't think she could gush blood... but since Cloud got impaled in the knee and bled in ACC, she would probably bleed, at least a little.

Death Penalty
Oct 15 2009, 07:20 PM
I betcha he ripples like a serving of jell-o.

From a business perspective, if that game gets made, Sony should bend over backwards to keep it exclusive. I doubt VII: Re would suffer too much from exclusivity, because let's face it. They could hike the PS3's price right back up, leave the backwards compatibility out and slap every customer who buys one in the face upon their purchase and VII: Re would still move PS3s right on out of stores.

As for blood, I think FF will probably always shy away from outright gore, but I agree that she would probably bleed in a... er... tasteful manner. Weird way to put that, but there you go.

Tedius Zanarukando
Oct 16 2009, 12:40 AM
The Final Fantasy VII remake should be PS3 exclusive. This could greatly increase PS3 sales. Remaking the game for the 360 will not really do us any good. Final Fantasy must stay away from outright blood and gore. The remake could fit on one-disc. The orchestra used in Crisis Core would be used for the remake soundtrack.

inoeex
Oct 16 2009, 10:03 AM
As for blood, I think FF will probably always shy away from outright gore, but I agree that she would probably bleed in a... er... tasteful manner. Weird way to put that, but there you go.


FF8 opening CG anyone ? did we not see blood there ? I will skip Versus

Falsate
Oct 16 2009, 11:21 AM
ACC counts regardless seeing as it has FF in it's name. Boy, did Cloud get his ass whooped.

FF8 did have blood in the CG Scene, but I think he is directing it more towards in-game events..

Charmander
Oct 16 2009, 02:55 PM
I betcha he ripples like a serving of jell-o.

From a business perspective, if that game gets made, Sony should bend over backwards to keep it exclusive. I doubt VII: Re would suffer too much from exclusivity, because let's face it. They could hike the PS3's price right back up, leave the backwards compatibility out and slap every customer who buys one in the face upon their purchase and VII: Re would still move PS3s right on out of stores.

As for blood, I think FF will probably always shy away from outright gore, but I agree that she would probably bleed in a... er... tasteful manner. Weird way to put that, but there you go.

:awesome:

It so would though. And if SE kept with previous VII projects and released another PS3 bundle pack with VII: Re (You know, something a little more interesting than the gay ass wolf) and even sold it as high as 600$ (possibly with other exclusive items bundled in) it would sell like hot cakes.

ACC had tons of blood, that was a new part of the remake... so for a remake of VII where there was a few more bloody scenes (ala Aerith shishkabobbed, Nibelheim Tifa sliced down) they may put in a little more than just red food colouring.

Not to say that Aerith would be drenched from head to toe (although in a different thought it would be way more dramatic).

The orchestra used in Crisis Core would be used for the remake soundtrack.

Please no. I don't want 9 versions of the same fucking song just in different acoustics and more bass and whatever. I think Nobou would actually remaster the whole lot for a remake.

Tiger Lily
Oct 16 2009, 04:28 PM
Please no. I don't want 9 versions of the same fucking song just in different acoustics and more bass and whatever. I think Nobou would actually remaster the whole lot for a remake.

Agreed. A remastered version of the original would better suit the remake. Or even AC's version would also work just fine.^_^

Death Penalty
Oct 16 2009, 04:42 PM
Please no. I don't want 9 versions of the same fucking song just in different acoustics and more bass and whatever. I think Nobou would actually remaster the whole lot for a remake.

Hahahahahaha!

It was a good song, though. :P The guy who did Crisis Core's soundtrack was pretty capable, but I'd rather see Uematsu remaster his entire soundtrack too. The remastered tracks they've already done have been pretty awesome.

Charmander
Oct 16 2009, 05:13 PM
It was an ok song, but really it was massive overkill with 9999 damage with every other boring version of it. And there just wasn't very much variety to CC soundtrack. Only Nobou could go back and remaster his OST.

Death Penalty
Oct 16 2009, 05:22 PM
Awww, he was just proud of his theme song. :P

I one-hundred percent agree, though. If they can get him to do it, Uematsu should be the one to bring his old soundtrack up to date. I'm a fanboy for that guy, and I'm sad to see that he's not taking much hand in the recent Final Fantasies. (Except XIV apparently. Whoop-dee-fricken-doo.) Then again, I've heard a lot of people whining that he sucks. Usually the same people that complain about Nomura's art, it seems, which I happen to like too.

Charmander
Oct 16 2009, 07:03 PM
I'm in the same boat about loving both SE execs. And Nobou was always there since the beginning, it was just really sad to see him go, especially when some of the newer games were getting good.