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Mercy000158
Jul 27 2009, 09:36 PM
So, the reason to start discussing about this game, that seems lost somewhere at the 8th floor of the Square Enix building, is the fact that I LOVE reading old articles about FFXIII, Versus and Agito. I recently read an very old interview with Titsuya Nomura about the battle system for versus, and I think I found a very nice detail:

They talk about the battle system and see a image of gauge similar to the one in FFXIII.

Source: http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2006/11/02/electric-shock-on-versus.html

Also there were some gameplay screens revealed last year on the Cloud magazine Developer Message (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/media/scans/cloudmessage/09.jpg).

A lot of people thought this was just for testing purposes, but I think -except the 3x duplicated Noctis- this would be the real interface! (Or maybe the real system which would get a nicer interface in the future)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1008/092gcx.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3153/67111173.jpg

A: This might be that "gauge" the magazine was talking about. It might have the same function as XIII.

B: Command window where you input commands
C: Area map (You can see it's the location of the "party scene".

I think the battle system goes like this:
You get a list of commands <B>. Next you pin 2 commands to the X and ["square"] button. The commands appear in the 2 bars <A>. Next you can perform FFAC combos with those 2 attacks and it will be like you're playing a fighting game. While you're battling you can change the commands freely with the d-pad.

They've said already that the battle system would be action oriented like Kingdom Hearts so they might just have a battle system like a fighting game with some RPG elements.

So what do you think? I hope we get to see a new trailer soon with some battle footage! I'm really excited for the game after reading all the past interviews.


I would advise everyone here to read old articles about these games, because they can be very interesting! For example about FF versus and Agito in 2007:

The Soldiers attacking the protagonist of Versus were after the crystal inside the pillar behind his thrown. It is supposed to have some sort of power which is beneficial to the military.

Agito will work both online and offline. Other players can join your party in online mode like an MMORPG.

Huh? Agito online? Clear that up for me???? Was it confirmed??????
And I also read that people of Cocoon are scared that their Cocoon will fall out of the sky someday :blink:


So, what do you want to see in Versus? How do you think the battle system will look? Explain it, draw it!
And can somebody confirm the Agito MMO thing? Was the mmo function cancelled or did we just all forgot it?

Also, These are the 4 basic Wikipedia rules to brainstorm successfully:



There are four basic rules in brainstorming. These are intended to reduce social inhibitions among groups members, stimulate idea generation, and increase overall creativity of the group.
Focus on quantity: This rule is a means of enhancing divergent production, aiming to facilitate problem solving through the maxim, quantity breeds quality. The assumption is that the greater the number of ideas generated, the greater the chance of producing a radical and effective solution.
Withhold criticism: In brainstorming, criticism (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/wiki/Criticism) of ideas generated should be put 'on hold'. Instead, participants should focus on extending or adding to ideas, reserving criticism for a later 'critical stage' of the process. By suspending judgment, participants will feel free to generate unusual ideas.
Welcome unusual ideas: To get a good and long list of ideas, unusual ideas are welcomed. They can be generated by looking from new perspectives and suspending assumptions. These new ways of thinking may provide better solutions.
Combine and improve ideas: Good ideas may be combined to form a single better good idea, as suggested by the slogan "1+1=3". It is believed to stimulate the building of ideas by a process of association (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/wiki/Association_(psychology)).


If there's already a thread on this one, sorry :( just close or merge it^_^

Lord Of Dumbasses
Jul 27 2009, 09:46 PM
You've wrote too much shit for such simple stuff.

Whenever I think about vFXIII, I imagine it cannot be an usuall turn based game so action oriented.

When SE talks about "it will look like", it is quite faithful to reality. So yeah ww will see something resembling KH a lot.

Thunder
Jul 27 2009, 09:56 PM
Source: http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2006/11...on-versus.html (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/forums/../2006/11/02/electric-shock-on-versus.html)I totally missed this article.

Btw in ipcture A i cant see any gauge .__."

Mercy000158
Jul 27 2009, 10:15 PM
I totally missed this article.

Btw in ipcture A i cant see any gauge .__."

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1001/thisisalsoagaugeforme.jpg



When SE talks about "it will look like", it is quite faithful to reality. So yeah ww will see something resembling KH a lot.

Yeah, Titsuya made a lot of false promises in the past. Hope would be a "too cool to be revealed character" :| But you have to admit that Versus looks damn good and if you look at the Dec. 13th trailer I'm convinced that Tit will make Versus an amazing game, even the battle system!

Kurai Warrior
Jul 27 2009, 10:28 PM
Yeah, Titsuya made a lot of false promises in the past. Hope would be a "too cool to be revealed character" :| But you have to admit that Versus looks damn good and if you look at the Dec. 13th trailer I'm convinced that Tit will make Versus an amazing game, even the battle system!

More characters are going to be revealed in XIII smart one. Everyone knows Hope isn't the cool character they were talking about. He's supposed to be the character you feel sympathy for. He's the immature child character.

And I agree with you about reading old articles, it really reminds you that they do have a plan for Versus. Hell that article was from November 2006. Something tells me Versus XIII is a lot farther along then we imagine.

And holy shit did you really put a wikipedia link up for brainstorming...
You still piss me off to know end sometimes.

Kätharina
Jul 27 2009, 10:29 PM
tl;dr

fag .

Lord Of Dumbasses
Jul 27 2009, 11:13 PM
More characters are going to be revealed in XIII smart one. Everyone knows Hope isn't the cool character they were talking about. He's supposed to be the character you feel sympathy for. He's the immature child character.

And I agree with you about reading old articles, it really reminds you that they do have a plan for Versus. Hell that article was from November 2006. Something tells me Versus XIII is a lot farther along then we imagine.

And holy shit did you really put a wikipedia link up for brainstorming...
You still piss me off to know end sometimes.

I feel sympathy for Hope.

And there's hentai of Vanille and Sazh everywhere.

Devegas
Jul 28 2009, 12:04 AM
More characters are going to be revealed in XIII smart one. Everyone knows Hope isn't the cool character they were talking about. He's supposed to be the character you feel sympathy for. He's the immature child character.

And I agree with you about reading old articles, it really reminds you that they do have a plan for Versus. Hell that article was from November 2006. Something tells me Versus XIII is a lot farther along then we imagine.

And holy shit did you really put a wikipedia link up for brainstorming...
You still piss me off to know end sometimes.
kurai's right about the old threads thing. but even though the idea for the battle system, commands, etc. were given, it doesn't stay that way but it does go along the line for when they change things, given the time between the old and new articles. the game won't release in japan until sometime in late 2010 (earliest guess). nomura though has had some ideas, so expect something different when they go into detail

Shuryn
Jul 28 2009, 01:20 AM
I've been looking around for these screenshots!
Thanks for putting them up!

Thunder
Jul 28 2009, 01:02 PM
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1001/thisisalsoagaugeforme.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/1zgal1.gif

Heaven's Cloud
Jul 28 2009, 01:21 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/1zgal1.gif

He mean's right beside the letter A.
Personally I think it's just what weapon/weapon's he has out at the moment.

Mercy000158
Jul 28 2009, 06:34 PM
I also found this from a recent (late May 2009) interview:

He also mentions that there won't be much Versus XIII news for a while, however once they are at a certain point in the development, he will show everyone something "surprising".


I like surprises :nod:
Also that reminds me, was this confirmed to be a fake?
http://www.ps3informer.com/playstation-3/images/p.aspx.jpg

ectorbrixx
Jul 28 2009, 06:45 PM
if we are lucky this game willl came out in 2012

Chocolate Cupcakes
Jul 28 2009, 06:47 PM
I also found this from a recent (late May 2009) interview:



I like surprises :nod:
Also that reminds me, was this confirmed to be a fake?
http://www.ps3informer.com/playstation-3/images/p.aspx.jpg

I want to say it is because the face looks a lot like the those stupid "Are you afraid?" advertisements.

Thunder
Jul 28 2009, 06:51 PM
Yes it was.
And btw XIII titles will have latin word on them.

Thunder
Jul 28 2009, 06:51 PM
Yes it was.
And btw XIII titles will have latin word on them.

defguy17
Jul 29 2009, 03:51 AM
I keep wanting to buy into the action based gameplay, but if you look at Fabula Nova Crystallis section of the north american square enix site, it says versus is a "traditional rpg". I was hoping for something strickly action based, but thats wishful thinking on my part. Every FF fan ive talked to hated dirge of cerberus, but i loved it. Am i alone on this?

Falsate
Aug 01 2009, 04:23 AM
Yeah, they are using Latin words so It couldn't be real.

Yoru-ni
Aug 08 2009, 02:27 PM
I hope the battles are real-time battles^^ ... like kingdom hearts!?!
:nod:

meshimush
Aug 20 2009, 04:15 AM
In 'C', is noctis fighting with..err, himselves?

Heaven's Cloud
Aug 20 2009, 05:05 PM
In 'C', is noctis fighting with..err, himselves?

It's probly an old stage of development where they use Noctis model for everything, or Noctis can multiply himself...
Take your pick

ArgoXavier
Aug 20 2009, 07:53 PM
I really hope for a more traditional battle system. Something like FFX's turn based system.

Heaven's Cloud
Aug 20 2009, 09:17 PM
I really hope for a more traditional battle system. Something like FFX's turn based system.

Doesn't look like it in that pic, it WILL be more like KH than Final F. Nomura said this. I love you :)

ArgoXavier
Aug 20 2009, 09:41 PM
But can't one always hope?

And I personally think that's a shitty move. I like FF old school battle system way better then KHs, but maybe that's just me. And anyways, it wont stop me from playing so i guess it doesn't matter too much.

meshimush
Aug 21 2009, 06:11 PM
I personally prefer KH's battle system. When I heard its gonna be a realistic KH i'm delighted. :D

thedarkknight
Sep 12 2009, 02:47 AM
I also prefer old school ff gameplay

this is a little off topic but I was kind of wondering, what if the mix an ff and the kh battle system what would that be like

Naunen
Sep 12 2009, 03:48 AM
I also prefer old school ff gameplay

this is a little off topic but I was kind of wondering, what if the mix an ff and the kh battle system what would that be like

----Have you ever played or watched Dissidia: Final Fantasy in action?

thedarkknight
Sep 12 2009, 01:52 PM
Oh, I forgot about that, good point.

meshimush
Sep 12 2009, 02:37 PM
The way Noctis holds his sword loks exactly like the way Sora holds the keyblade 0__0

thedarkknight
Sep 13 2009, 08:31 PM
I guess it does look similar