What's do you think will be the twist on the gameplay?

[vicdp117]

What we are hearing about versus is that they're tweaking the gameplay yet. What do you think would it be the twist of the gameplay?

EDIT:
Sorry about the title of this thread. I was on a rush on doing this

[CaptainNapkins]

The twist? It turns out that Versus XIII is a racing game.

[DragonKnight]

Don't you think the fact that you fight with 12 swords is enough of a twist?

[Whiplash]

The twist? It turns out that Versus XIII is a racing game.

Wrong, it turns out Versus is a fashion game. Choose the hottest outfits for Noctis and his buddies as they rise through the hectic world of male modelling.

[CaptainNapkins]

Wrong, it turns out Versus is a fashion game. Choose the hottest outfits for Noctis and his buddies as they rise through the hectic world of male modelling.

This explains the tie-in with ROEN. I shoulda seen it coming.

[Astraia]

Wrong, it turns out Versus is a fashion game. Choose the hottest outfits for Noctis and his buddies as they rise through the hectic world of male modelling.

...Noctis can also choose a male character to date on the side. When that dude's affection rate towards Noct reaches 100%, you will be rewarded with a special minigame similar to the hot coffee mod.

[Aurelia]

Wrong, it turns out Versus is a fashion game. Choose the hottest outfits for Noctis and his buddies as they rise through the hectic world of male modelling.

Shit, I'd buy 20 copies.

[cheesepizza]

Wrong, it turns out Versus is a fashion game. Choose the hottest outfits for Noctis and his buddies as they rise through the hectic world of male modelling.

:wub::wub::wub:

*cough*

On a serious note: Why would there have to be a twist? They could always make it a button masher... street fighter style heh

[Thunder]

I think it's something regarding Stella. Or Noctis doing something considerable "bad".

[meteor]

That noctis gets a bad hairday>_<

[Ren XIII]

I have no idea what would be the "twist of the gameplay" , I would like the gameplay to be a KH/DMC hybrid with some TPS mechanics but that's just me being too hopeful.

Nomura also said they are adding map gimmicks , what do you think those gimmicks are.



I think it's something regarding Stella. Or Noctis doing something considerable "bad".

That would be more of a plot twist than a gameplay twist , that said , I do hope that this game dabbles in a world that is in "shades of gray" rather than the tipical "black and white" world.

[Heaven's Cloud]

I would like it to be a little bit like Asassins creed, when your fighting your health bar goes down when your shield is hit and the final blow actually hit's you. And then like a more realistic KH2. then like uncharted styled shooting.
The real twist is that Noctis' government are Baaad.

[Naunen]

The real twist is that Noctis' government are Baaad.

----"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so."

[Heaven's Cloud]

----"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so."


Right forgot that, does that quote their really mean there is no good or evil? Or is it that everyone believe's they are right and the enemy is wrong?

So " There is nothing either good or bad, but the mind makes it so"
In other word's it depend's on who you are if you believe something is right or wrong.

you've all probably discussed this so please tell what the right meaning is.

[Naunen]

Right forgot that, does that quote their really mean there is no good or evil? Or is it that everyone believe's they are right and the enemy is wrong?

So " There is nothing either good or bad, but the mind makes it so"
In other word's it depend's on who you are if you believe something is right or wrong.

you've all probably discussed this so please tell what the right meaning is.

----In short, it means that we have absolutely no idea what you mean by "baaad". O.o I mean, for all we know, you're probably gonna say the government is skipping in a field of grass. At least, all those guys in suits.

[meteor]

Right forgot that, does that quote their really mean there is no good or evil? Or is it that everyone believe's they are right and the enemy is wrong?

So " There is nothing either good or bad, but the mind makes it so"
In other word's it depend's on who you are if you believe something is right or wrong.

you've all probably discussed this so please tell what the right meaning is.


The meaning is right in your face and you dont see it:P.
It is just like it says.
There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.
What good is for someone can be bad for another guy because he is in a position that makes him think different about it.
And vice versa

[Aurelia]

Example: Hitler thought killing all the Jews, Catholics, gays, cripples, retards, gypsies, and Jehova's witness was good.

It was not bad in his eyes, but it's bad in ours.

And don't say "BUT THAT'S HUMAN LIFE BAWW EVIL EVIL." I don't fucking care. It's an example, so STFU.

[Heaven's Cloud]

Example: Hitler thought killing all the Jews, Catholics, gays, cripples, retards, gypsies, and Jehova's witness was good.

It was not bad in his eyes, but it's bad in ours.

And don't say "BUT THAT'S HUMAN LIFE BAWW EVIL EVIL." I don't fucking care. It's an example, so STFU.

Yeah that's what I was trying to say but I wasn't very clear was i lol

[Henry]

Sex, drugs & rock'n roll:cookie:
EDIT: Probably a dress up game.

[NawktissXLeyetning]

Noctis is a woman. Therefore there will be a lot of sidequests where he has to deal with "lady problems"....

[looking_for_a_stella]

The twist will be that Noctis can see ghosts and all his party members are in fact DEAD.

[Ikkin]

Right forgot that, does that quote their really mean there is no good or evil? Or is it that everyone believe's they are right and the enemy is wrong?

So " There is nothing either good or bad, but the mind makes it so"
In other word's it depend's on who you are if you believe something is right or wrong.

you've all probably discussed this so please tell what the right meaning is.

In its original context, it was intended to mean something like, "how bad things are depends on how bad you consider them to be," talking more about happiness than about morality.

Given the way Nomura uses it, and the way he's dealt with good and evil in the past, in this case, it's probably intended as a denial of absolutes. I'd guess that it'll show up through having all sides of conflicts have understandable motives that simply conflict, rather than having a good side and a bad side - and the characters caring more about their own interests than being "good guys."

[Pixel]

I am just gonna say that I am going to guess that the supposed "new" and "unique" batle system will be about as bland as everything else.

Most devs say they did "x" and it totally revolutionizes the game, which for them, I am sure it does. With all of that bug testing adding in one new magic attack, or limit break like bar, or chain combo, would make a huge difference.

For us though, its just something thats most likely be done before with a new and fancy name. Most likely, it had just not been done in the same context.

As for the non-pessimistic side of me, I want a battle system, hat actually makes sense. You know, you can't constantly beat a weapon against steel and expect it to look pristine all the time.

[Foreshadow]

Since it's gameplay, my guess is that It has something to do with controlling Noctis's multiple swords, maybe like a gambit system for swords?

Even if its not different i'll still enjoy the gameplay though

[Stella Nox Fleuret]

Since it will have KH elements, I guess something similiar. But I wonder if Summons will exist in FFvsXIII, how they will work, like if they work like in FFXIII.

[Vtks]

well the twist on the gameplay to me HAS to be the ACC like battles that nomura promised the game to have

[The_Steve]

!!!!!PRECISELY!!!! Although I wouldn't say that's the twist since i read about that like a year ago. But yes, ACC combat = crazy combat, magic, summons shooting and acrobatics.

The twist is probably something to do with multi-weapons. Maybe kind of like Foreshadow just said. All the weapons have AI and do their own thing, but they also help out in combos depending on the weapon in Noctis' hand, have their own limit breaks, etc.

[Rideru]

i'm not really expecting anything new from versus. i just think it will be the best of the old with updated graphics.

[epsilon]

I think the twist to this game is actually that Shotgun guy and Stella are actually brother and sister... So maybe Shotgun guy is the assasin that was put beside Noctis and actually betray him at the end of the game...

[Spades]

Now that the FF crew are finally letting up on the blood shed, (remember that they never showed an ounce of blood show up) I think I can safely say that the main characters will start to switch sides and infact that Noctis is the bad guy turning into a good guy. Who knows what the twist will be...

[Ikkin]

Now that the FF crew are finally letting up on the blood shed, (remember that they never showed an ounce of blood show up) I think I can safely say that the main characters will start to switch sides and infact that Noctis is the bad guy turning into a good guy. Who knows what the twist will be...

What does blood have to do with characters defecting? o.o

I don't think Noct is going to go from bad guy to good guy, because I don't think there will be bad guys and good guys. ;)

I love your Stella sig, by the way. ^_^

[Whiplash]

Yeah I can't see how them including blood means that characters will switch allegiances. Especially seeing as they've done that before in fairly non-bloody games like Kingdom Hearts (Riku), FFIV (Kain) and FFVIII (Seifer, and Edea too I suppose) off the top of my head. Does Cait Sith also count? Apart from the opening FMV of VIII those games were blood free and yet, amazingly, characters switched sides.

There have been some amazing leaps of logic on this board before, but this is right up there.

[Subba]

Tetra master.


...I can dream.

[Spades]

What does blood have to do with characters defecting? o.o

I don't think Noct is going to go from bad guy to good guy, because I don't think there will be bad guys and good guys. ;)

I love your Stella sig, by the way. ^_^

Thanks about the sig.

I'm just saying that blood is a good addition to the game, to make it more real physically for the character. It doesn't involve character defect or switiching sides.

As far as I know, the ff series has rarely shown a side of brutallity in war from breaking bones, swords impaling people, gushing out with blood and throwing bodies aside; instead of dealing with monsters. At first FF wasn't exactly rated for the maturity level, because predominantly, young gamers played.

In any of the FFXIII trailers, I haven't seen any battles that involve bloodshed.

As for switching allegiances and good guy and bad guys. Ofcourse there will be a good side and bad side. Otherwise who is Noct fighting against? Obviously an opposing force that threatens his throne and the crystal which in his mind is bad.

Yeah your right about Cait Sith Whiplash cause he steals some key and hands it to the Turks while he was in Cloud's group.

[Ikkin]

Thanks about the sig.

I'm just saying that blood is a good addition to the game, to make it more real physically for the character. It doesn't involve character defect or switiching sides.

As far as I know, the ff series has rarely shown a side of brutallity in war from breaking bones, swords impaling people, gushing out with blood and throwing bodies aside; instead of dealing with monsters. At first FF wasn't exactly rated for the maturity level, because predominantly, young gamers played.

In any of the FFXIII trailers, I haven't seen any battles that involve bloodshed.

I suppose that means you haven't seen Advent Children Complete? ;)

Nomura kind of showed his hand there - he's not all too interested in the physicality of the characters, because that could be inconvenient. After all, if he payed it too much mind, characters couldn't get up and kick their opponents' hides after getting smashed into the ceiling or impaled on a twelve-foot long katana.

Blood in ACC seems to be used mostly because it'll make an impression. Or, I guess, because breaking Reno's nose is funny.

In any case, I'd expect something more like Heavenly Sword than God of War, because while ridiculous and sometimes incredibly-painful-looking animations are awesome, constant gore just tends to wind up getting ignored.

As for XIII, it's a bit too clean. If someone's supposed to be killed by an explosion, there should at least be some burns on their clothes. >_>;


As for switching allegiances and good guy and bad guys. Ofcourse there will be a good side and bad side. Otherwise who is Noct fighting against? Obviously an opposing force that threatens his throne and the crystal which in his mind is bad.

True, but that doesn't mean they're evil. ;)

[Spades]

No I haven't but I've seen the trailers and I think it's better than the original. So what do you suppose the oppressors are? Just curious from your point of view. I mean if they aren't evil and if there isn;t no good or bad, then what are they?

Is that the twist in the game. Choosign which side you're on.

I hope this isn't one of those "Team Edward and Team Jacob' scanerios..

[Ikkin]

No I haven't but I've seen the trailers and I think it's better than the original. So what do you suppose the oppressors are? Just curious from your point of view. I mean if they aren't evil and if there isn;t no good or bad, then what are they?

Is that the twist in the game. Choosign which side you're on.

I hope this isn't one of those "Team Edward and Team Jacob' scanerios..

You should. =3

Anyway, I'm thinking that each side is going to have competing interests, but those interests could be about equal in weight rather than terribly out-of-balance.

(Note that good-evil conflicts always result in a massive inequality of interests. The good guy always wants something of enormous importance - like, say, saving the world - while the bad guys couldn't possibly justify what they want even if you can understand why they want it)

I'd imagine the conflict would be over the crystal, which is a source of modernization as well as military power. Everyone would have a pretty big interest in taking control of it for themselves without any need for malevolent intentions on their part, so neither side would need to be evil to create a conflict.

Don't know about choosing sides - it'd split the story between two potential lines, which could decrease quality. =/ Plus, I doubt it would really be in character for Noct to ignore his own interests.

As for the Twilight nonsense, I sure hope there aren't any shipping wars built into the story. >_<

[Spades]

I see. It goes hand in hand with that Shakespear qoute. Both sides just have thier own intentions and that doesn't make them good or bad, just nuetral in thier own standards.