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Kokayi
Apr 29 2009, 09:50 PM
You know what I don't like? Lately, less and less of Nomura's hand drawn work is being shown on covers and within manuals to FFs... Why? Is it because now is the age of 3D, as I'm often told when I ask why Disney won't go back to cell animation instead of only doing work with Pixar.
Could it be that other than a special art back here and there to celebrate an aniversery or something, we'll be seeing less and less of hand drawn art?
Often I have wo scowl the net for Nomura's work now. Only finding tidbits already seen in a few of his KH games. I can't be the only one who wants him to be allow to draw plenty of pictures and have them all over the game book and cover!
For example! Musashi 2 had a drawn cover and back cover. KH 1 had lots of drawn art. KH 2 a little. It's like the close to 2008 you get, the less Nomura or hand drawn art at all you see.
I know for the most part there's only like one or two cell animation movies coming out in the US (Princess and the Frog) but I expect more from Japan. What with a history of great art. Why shove art over for 3D alone. Why not show 50% of both? Why not have a hand draw pic of the character beside a 3D picture of them in the character page in the game book?
What are your thoughts?
Moklin
Apr 29 2009, 10:02 PM
Yeah, i think you are right. Aside from Agito we still havent seen any Final Fantasy XIII char draw from Nomura. : (
Kokayi
Apr 29 2009, 10:21 PM
Yeah. Sad. But I think, like drawn animation, one day they'll show that kinda art again.
I really wanna see the official art of Lightning and Noctis. Also, unlike in Versus, Agito and Dissidia, Nomura's not drawing all the characters in 13. Only Lightning, Oreba, and Snow are his creations.
I didn't like the artist for 12 and flet like if the Ivalice group was gonna control that game, they shouldn've made a few badass characters. I could tell by the art a lot of characters would be stuck up and haughty. And with 4 characters I was right. Ashe, Balthier, Fran, and Vayne were all UNBELIEVEABLE stuck up.
That game was way too much for the older gamers. There was a serious elitest vibe throughout the game that showed up even in the art.
No offense to 12-fans. I like a mature game. But I feel like you can get that with adult character constantly looking down on the younger ones. Something Bal and Ashe did CONSTANTLY. Even Fran, who I hoped wouldn't, followed suit.
But I degrise... Art wise, I want Nomura to be all over things. I'm not saying work himself to death, but I don't want him to fade away from FF and only do KH games.
Final Twilight
Apr 29 2009, 10:28 PM
This is true, but I think what one thing he participated in was Denzels Episode in Final Fantasy VII Advent Children Complete. But I see your reasoning and I have to admit that I do like the old way better in some parts but I also like seeing the 3D side of things. It gives things a cool schpeel (my family uses this word) to them.
Naunen
Apr 30 2009, 12:55 AM
No, because these days, Nomura feels like we the fans want to see more of Amano's illustrations. Not sure why.
Kurai Warrior
Apr 30 2009, 01:17 AM
Actually Disney is doing a new 2D movie called The Princess and The Frog...although the story behind it is bullshit, it's a black princess in the 1920's living in the New Orleans :aldo:
But yeah I've also noticed that they are only doing 3-D rendered artwork, I have nothing against that but I wish they would do both, like 2-D concept work and then the 3-D rendered work.
Ikkin
Apr 30 2009, 02:36 AM
For example! Musashi 2 had a drawn cover and back cover. KH 1 had lots of drawn art. KH 2 a little. It's like the close to 2008 you get, the less Nomura or hand drawn art at all you see.
Kingdom Hearts Re: CoM was released recently in the US with a hand-drawn cover, and Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days' Japanese cover is also hand-drawn. I don't think much is going to change there, really.
Final Fantasy covers never featured Nomura's art anyway. The Japanese covers have always been Amano's logos, and the US ones have been 3D since VII.
I really wanna see the official art of Lightning and Noctis. Also, unlike in Versus, Agito and Dissidia, Nomura's not drawing all the characters in 13. Only Lightning, Oreba, and Snow are his creations.
They really do need to release the concept art for Lightning, Snow, and Vanille already - they're final designs, so there's bound to be something that he drew for them. =P I can kind of understand why there's nothing released for Noct, though, since they haven't even revealed his final outfit yet.
One thing - Nomura isn't drawing all of the characters for Agito, either. That came up in an interview recently - there's too many of them for him to draw them all, especially since he's probably focused on Versus now.
doomed_soul89
Apr 30 2009, 02:43 AM
main reason I read comics, they are such a great and underappreciated medium
Shiranui Reborn
Apr 30 2009, 05:12 AM
Actually Disney is doing a new 2D movie called The Princess and The Frog...although the story behind it is bullshit, it's a black princess in the 1920's living in the New Orleans :aldo:
But yeah I've also noticed that they are only doing 3-D rendered artwork, I have nothing against that but I wish they would do both, like 2-D concept work and then the 3-D rendered work.
i heard about this on the radio i think its a pretty good idea despite the fact they want to make a new disney princess or whatever and most people are gonna be like lets stick to the old ones but its nice they are making them more diverse
main reason I read comics, they are such a great and underappreciated medium
main reason i play okami :aldo:
its art... but a video game lolz
Thunder
Apr 30 2009, 08:42 AM
The last Nomura draw was like more than a year ago with Cloud Squall Lightning Card Boy Noctis and Aya all in neko version :aldo:
cheesepizza
Apr 30 2009, 11:30 AM
The last Nomura draw was like more than a year ago with Cloud Squall Lightning Card Boy Noctis and Aya all in neko version :aldo:
Seriously??? Where??
But yea... there's like 0 Nomura drawing for FNC.... What happened to good old hand drawn art D:
And the Logos are awesome nuff said :3 will cry the day they stop putting Amano logos on the cover D:
Thunder
Apr 30 2009, 11:42 AM
http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/news/data/upimages/famitsu_1001_cover.jpg
cheesepizza
Apr 30 2009, 12:10 PM
Wow.........hehe will add to my collection.... must lurk moar
Thunder
Apr 30 2009, 12:15 PM
If it can help you it's the cover of the 1001st number of famitsu.
cheesepizza
Apr 30 2009, 12:23 PM
O no wonder T_T
Well I'll take back my comment about 0 hand drawn stuff for FNC... lol
Aurelia
Apr 30 2009, 04:51 PM
That's a fox, Thufag. :aldo:
Wandering Hands
Apr 30 2009, 04:55 PM
My favourite part is how Aya is in the background, all unimportant and everything.
Kurai Warrior
Apr 30 2009, 06:22 PM
Well if you think about it, the only thing really emphasized is the foxy looking Sora thing. XD
Thunder
Apr 30 2009, 06:48 PM
That's a fox, Thufag. :aldo:
Noe its a neko thing. Because neko is so cool.
Also neko is fagger than fox hears, Aufag.
My favourite part is how Aya is in the background, all unimportant and everything.
Lulnobodycareabouther:awesome:
Ikkin
Apr 30 2009, 07:38 PM
Well if you think about it, the only thing really emphasized is the foxy looking Sora thing. XD
It's emphasized because it's the Famitsu mascot. They apparently like to dress it up like different game characters.
And it's definitely more of a fox than a cat. XD Nekomimi might be more recognizable, but people with kitsune ears aren't all that unusual in anime-style art, either.
Kokayi
Apr 30 2009, 11:04 PM
@Final Twilight
I still say show both side by side in the game books.
@Naunen
That might be the idea behind Dissidia, but what about in Agito? That seems all him. But he didn't do that for 13...
@Kurai Princess
I know of that Disney shit. It's a weak attempt at capitalizing of New Orleans. You know, after everyone gained such pride in staying there after the storm.
@Ikkin
1) But inside the KHrCoM book was little art of a drawn nature.
2) But all the leads he did draw for Agito. I just wanted that for FF13 too. I don't fault him for being busy though. Especially since Versus is his pride and joy since the KH games.
@Shinraui Reborn
It's a ploy! Everything from the new princess idea to her being in NO to being black. Her being black is just to fight the accusations of Disney being under racists management for years. And all the rest I spoke of above in this post.
@Thula
I don't like popping cat ears on such serious characters though.
Naunen
Apr 30 2009, 11:55 PM
@Naunen
That might be the idea behind Dissidia, but what about in Agito? That seems all him. But he didn't do that for 13...
----Maybe because Agito looks like a KH game.
Kokayi
May 01 2009, 10:11 PM
----Maybe because Agito looks like a KH game.
I don't think so, but you may be right. It may also be that Agito's cast, other than the 3 main ones, those student are just avatars for multiplayer mode. So Nomura didn't need to got all out on those. So they took less of his time.
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