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Kuja Las Vegas
Apr 16 2009, 06:36 AM
Hello, I've been lurking the threads but I haven't seen a topic similar to this, so I thought I'd give it a go.

FF7 is regarded by many as one of the best games of all time, if not the best FF of them all. Among fellow FF players I need not go into details, but certainly Square Enix knows how massively popular FF7 is since they did the compilation with Crisis Core, DoC, Advent Children, etc.

My question / theory then is, knowing how popular FF7 is, do Square Enix have an incentive to make FF13 similar to FF7 in some ways, whether subconsciously or referentially, to capitalize upon the fame of FF7, perhaps eventually even becoming more popular than FF7?

Some evidence that points to this is a quote from some Square Enix executive who basically says that Lightning is like a female version of Cloud Strife. If you've seen the leaked demo, she does this victory pose thing where she spins her gunblade and straps it into her sheath. Very similar to Cloud spinning his massive swords.

Here are some parallels that I've noticed so far that might hint at FF13 being "like" FF7 in some ways *spoilers abound*:

FF7: Cloud is a newcomer who jumps off a Midgar train with Barret to bomb a Mako reactor with the Avalanche posse. Cloud had gone batshit loony tunes at the time and thought he was Zack or some shit. Cloud once worked for Shinra, i.e. the evil government.

FF13: Female Cloud, er "Lightning" may be construed as a reluctant newcomer who joins the Anti-Cocoon resistance known as NORA. She is on a train with Black Afro Chocobo head man. She is also suffering from some kind of amnesia, and may not be the real "Lightning." She once worked for Cocoon, i.e. the evil Holy government.

Am I the only one who notes the parallel that in the beginning of FF7 you have Cloud and Barret jumping off a train and fighting a giant mechanical scorpion guard in the mako reactor, and in the beginning of FF13 you have Lightning and Black Afro Chocobo head man similarly jumping off a train to do battle with a giant white robot that also slightly resembles a scorpion?

I have a feeling FF13 is going to rock our world, with a global, psycho storyline like FF7. All we need now is female versions of Sephiroth, Genesis, and Zack.

kingmickey
Apr 16 2009, 07:43 AM
it is oddly similar but it maybe just in the beginning

Heaven's Cloud
Apr 16 2009, 07:51 AM
Haha your kinda right http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/nS0Iv3i11us/hqdefault.jpg






Edit: Cloud was also a cunt at the start of the game.

Wandering Hands
Apr 16 2009, 07:56 AM
Guard Scorpion does not have chainsaw arms.

Guard Scorpion loses.

Heaven's Cloud
Apr 16 2009, 08:15 AM
Guard Scorpion does not have chainsaw arms.

Guard Scorpion loses.

The FF13 one is a Guard scorpion from the future
upgraded with flight, chainsaw arms, the beam comes out of it's mouth instead of it's tail,
it's a nice silver colour.

Solunar
Apr 16 2009, 09:32 AM
I thought someone already took a screenshot of a female that looks remarkably like Sephiroth?

Heaven's Cloud
Apr 16 2009, 10:31 AM
Oh yea the one standing on the ramp of the ship, that's one more thing.

Wandering Hands
Apr 16 2009, 11:11 AM
Bitches aren't allowed to have long blonde hair without being compared to Sephiroth?

Darkangel-XI
Apr 16 2009, 11:24 AM
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/nS0Iv3i11us/hqdefault.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/t-didy11/wutt.jpg

secretgal1234
Apr 17 2009, 09:57 PM
I'm watching the demo right now. There are a ton of similarities. Anti corperation/government movement. Deserted soldier. Trains. I really hope though that the story of XIII is original and not a copy and paste of VII with better graphics and a female Cloud.

Astrozombie
Apr 17 2009, 10:20 PM
The beginning is almost identicle to AVALANCH's assault on the reactors. Small resistance group vs big, evil, (midgar looking)city ruling army? Yeah, the place does look almost exactly like Midgar, and even the enemies are similar. Lightning is just like Cloud, and while Sahz isn't like Barret, the race fits, lol.

There's also the similarity between the blonde guys falling off of destroyed bridges and barely being hurt, and the friends getting killed by said similar looking enemies.

I think this is the FF7 remake everyone keeps talking about.

Sanji
Apr 17 2009, 10:25 PM
FFXIII IS NOT A FUCKING FFVII REMAKE.

GET OVER IT IT WON'T HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON.

Heaven's Cloud
Apr 17 2009, 10:57 PM
If I wanted a FF7 remake I would want it to be FF7 not 13, I doubt it'll stay like this with all the simularities and stuff, just wait for the next trailer or so, they'll eventually show outside of cocoon.

Astrozombie
Apr 17 2009, 11:46 PM
FFXIII IS NOT A FUCKING FFVII REMAKE.

GET OVER IT IT WON'T HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON.

Stfu douchefag, I wasn't being serious.

This is a thread to point out the similarities. So point them out, or shut your stupid face.

chaosblade77
Apr 18 2009, 12:54 AM
As long as it has better pacing than FFVII and a more coherent story (which probably had more to do with the localization of FFVII than the story itself, but I might be giving it too much credit) I don't really care if the two are similar.

The_Steve
Apr 18 2009, 07:28 PM
interesting speculations, but there isn't anything that suggests that Lighting has amnesia and is living someone else's life. And "Black Afro Chocobo head man" is comical, nothing like the oh-so-serious-Barrett, although he was sometimes funny when he got pissed off, but that's a different type of funny.

Also, Sahz is not the leader, from what I read, in the beginning, the guy barely knows how to fire a hand gun.

Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 18 2009, 07:35 PM
Because of some similarities, we cannot say the game is gonna be like FFVII. Personally I'd like to see something different. FFXII was set in Ivalice too, the same world of FF Tactics, but it's just had some elements and it wasn't similiar at all.

Aurelia
Apr 18 2009, 07:55 PM
Stfu douchefag, I wasn't being serious.

This is a thread to point out the similarities. So point them out, or shut your stupid face.

You weren't serious? Because I could have sworn you were. At least the tone of my "Cloud and Noctis are fags thread" was of jest. You just sound like a speculative gamefaqs goer.

Apparently games that are created by the same company can't have any similarities. If I really felt like it I could link every single FF game together just by their "similarities" and these "parallels."

Fuck parallels. This is Square Enix we're talking about, not your goddamn AP English Literature class. Almost all JRPGs are the same: You have a crew of funky looking misfits that are trying to fight against the government/empire/kingdom/country/company/religion/ancient force and wind up saving the world from impending doom from some douchebag that was once affiliated with the government/empire/kingdom/country/company/religion/ancient force. The composition of his/her final boss form goes as this: 1st - Normal, 2nd - Cancer, 3rd - Cancer with wings

Scrub. :wtf:

The_Steve
Apr 18 2009, 09:24 PM
lol. that's sadly true.

Astrozombie
Apr 18 2009, 09:41 PM
You weren't serious? Because I could have sworn you were. At least the tone of my "Cloud and Noctis are fags thread" was of jest. You just sound like a speculative gamefaqs goer.

Apparently games that are created by the same company can't have any similarities. If I really felt like it I could link every single FF game together just by their "similarities" and these "parallels."

Scrub. :wtf:

Uh, what's the point of this topic? To point out similarities between the two? And what did I do?

Thank you for understanding how stupid you are.

It's not the same game, but due to the amount of similarities in the beginning, I think anyone is justified to make a joke about it.

But noo, I HONESTLY thought that this game was going to be an FF7 remake. Really, I expect to see Cloud and Barret and Tifa and all them eventually. Lightning, Snow, they're all just cover ups until Square reveals that this is actually an FF7 remake.

Excuse me if I overestimated this forum's ability to differentiate between "ha, joke" and "OMG HE THINKS THIS GAME IS FF7 WTF NO I'M OFFENDED"

Idiot.