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The_Steve
Apr 15 2009, 10:35 PM
There's a new Versus trailer out (I saw it on IGN) any thoughts?
I'm just angry that there isn't really anything we haven't seen before, except that the talking scene was extended.
But I'm pleased to see how well the graphics seem to be coming along (and yes, I know they aren't flawless and that Noct's shoes are stoopid looking).
Kurai Warrior
Apr 15 2009, 10:55 PM
PFFFFT I don't even consider it a trailer I consider it a cutscene with music. And I bet its an old build too so yeah it wasn't anything special.
Whatever they say or show about Versus next has to be new though, considering that was the last thing we havn't seen (even though its not a big deal) :wtf:
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 15 2009, 11:02 PM
Ha, indeed. A trailer isn't a cutscene, they should have add more, like gameplay. Seems we gotta wait until September or so.
dxgirly
Apr 15 2009, 11:04 PM
Are there any fan translations to the dialogue at the end yet?
Lulzparty
Apr 15 2009, 11:18 PM
It was pretty good.
so is there any other Closed Mega Theater stuff that we haven't seen yet?
Deadaim2thegrave
Apr 15 2009, 11:30 PM
there is a translation for it somewhere on one the front pages cause i remember reading it.
Kurai Warrior
Apr 15 2009, 11:53 PM
Yeah it'll be till about september for a new trailer maybe, but there is always a chance at E3 or some kind of event that may happen before then, but scans should still come out. Unless they plan on putting the other 2 games in complete shadows while final fantasy XIII is shown off.
And is it just me or did Noctis and Stella do some of the weirdest body language ever?
Oh and gotta love how they both have terrible taste in clothes, for gods sake Stella has jewelry hanging from her boob.
Maiya
Apr 16 2009, 12:18 AM
I'm sure you guys all know that it wasn't interesting (It was really just a freaking cutscene), but I was pretty amazed by the graphics. The graphics in Versus please me much more than the main game's graphics. It might be youtube's fault or whatever, but I'm still going on a guess that Versus' graphics will look nicer overall. All I really need is to see some gameplay and hear some voices to be satisfied.
The shoes don't bother me anymore, we barely even see them except for the close up at the beginning.
dxgirly
Apr 16 2009, 12:26 AM
there is a translation for it somewhere on one the front pages cause i remember reading it.
hmm. I can't find it?
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 16 2009, 12:33 AM
Noctis approaches, and Stella turns around with a smile.
Stella: "Noctis-sama can see the light, isn't that so?"
Stella: "I can also see (it)."
Stella: "The light (we) saw earlier below is 'that' light, isn't it?"
Stella looks up at the night sky.
Noctis begins to walk in the opposite direction to avoid Stella. Stella continues to talk while following him.
Stella: "The Goddess Etro..."
Stella talks vaguely about such things as "The light that emanates from the land of the dead," "the light to face the souls of the dead," and that "those who see the light recieve power."
Stella: "It is a legend told in Teneburae."
Noctis: "It is the same here." (This line appears to have been mistranslated previously as "It is the same with me" referring to the granting of power by light. The way I heard it, he was saying that his country has the same tale) He extends his hand in a gesture that seems to lack interest in the topic, his manner short and to the point.
Stella: "Has Noctis-sama recieved power?"
Noctis sits down on a nearby bench.
Noctis: "It's better not to talk about those things."
Stella: "Why is that?"
Noctis: "Things that are said to set you apart from others, they're bothersome, you know?"
Stella: "What do you think that light is, Noctis-sama?"
Noctis: "It's just there. Isn't that enough, uh....?
Noctis stands.
Stella: "It's Stella."
Noctis: "Stella, I must be leaving."
Stella: "I am sorry to have delayed you, Noctis-sama."
Noctis: "Noct is fine."
Stella: "I also must be going."
Stella spins around to leave.
Stella: "I feel I recieved power from that light today. I was also able to speak with you."
Stella speaks while walking backwards,
Stella: "If you wish, come to Teneburae. I will show you around."
Noctis: "That sounds pretty good. I'll think about it."
Stella leaves.
dxgirly
Apr 16 2009, 12:38 AM
Thank you dear. :]
Aurelia
Apr 16 2009, 12:49 AM
The trailer was an insult to my intelligence. Also the party scene just showed the world how ladylike Noctis' gestures are.
Kurai Warrior
Apr 16 2009, 01:23 AM
Boob jewelry! Clown shoes! yay? :wtf:
Yeah and I knew they would recycle the ancient footage again, and then to make 3/4 of the so called trailer a cutscene was laughable, and yeah the character models and body language look really weird right now. Dear god I just can't get over how retarded the clothes are :aldo:
Aurelia
Apr 16 2009, 02:07 AM
I want to punch Stella for wearing those boots with a skirt and a nonmatching white shirt. :wtf: She needs to fire the person that let her go out in those clothes.
Lulzparty
Apr 16 2009, 02:11 AM
so many girls... I didn't know FF franchise was popular among girls...
Aurelia
Apr 16 2009, 02:11 AM
I didn't know someone could live under a rock for so long.
Sundance Kid
Apr 16 2009, 02:12 AM
Noctis approaches, and Stella turns around with a smile.
Stella: "Noctis-sama can see the light, isn't that so?"
Stella: "I can also see (it)."
Stella: "The light (we) saw earlier below is 'that' light, isn't it?"
Stella looks up at the night sky.
Noctis begins to walk in the opposite direction to avoid Stella. Stella continues to talk while following him.
Stella: "The Goddess Etro..."
Stella talks vaguely about such things as "The light that emanates from the land of the dead," "the light to face the souls of the dead," and that "those who see the light recieve power."
Stella: "It is a legend told in Teneburae."
Noctis: "It is the same here." (This line appears to have been mistranslated previously as "It is the same with me" referring to the granting of power by light. The way I heard it, he was saying that his country has the same tale) He extends his hand in a gesture that seems to lack interest in the topic, his manner short and to the point.
Stella: "Has Noctis-sama recieved power?"
Noctis sits down on a nearby bench.
Noctis: "It's better not to talk about those things."
Stella: "Why is that?"
Noctis: "Things that are said to set you apart from others, they're bothersome, you know?"
Stella: "What do you think that light is, Noctis-sama?"
Noctis: "It's just there. Isn't that enough, uh....?
Noctis stands.
Stella: "It's Stella."
Noctis: "Stella, I must be leaving."
Stella: "I am sorry to have delayed you, Noctis-sama."
Noctis: "Noct is fine."
Stella: "I also must be going."
Stella spins around to leave.
Stella: "I feel I recieved power from that light today. I was also able to speak with you."
Stella speaks while walking backwards,
Stella: "If you wish, come to Teneburae. I will show you around."
Noctis: "That sounds pretty good. I'll think about it."
Stella leaves.
She'll show him around alright............around her skirt.
giggidy
dxgirly
Apr 16 2009, 02:13 AM
so many girls... I didn't know FF franchise was popular among girls...
wtf?
Do you live in a forest of penises?
Aurelia
Apr 16 2009, 02:20 AM
Stella: "If you wish, come to Teneburae. I will show you around."
Noctis: "That sounds pretty good. I'll think about it."
Stella leaves.And then Noctis has gay sex with his friends that night. :aldo:
Ikkin
Apr 16 2009, 02:30 AM
NeoGAF has a new translation for the party scene:
S: You can see the light, right? Was that what you were looking at from below the stairs?
N: Pretty much. When did you start seeing it?
S: When I was a child.
N: A near death experience I presume.
S: Yes. You too?
N: It was pretty bad.
S: "The Goddess Etro shall open the gate welcoming the the souls of the dead. Whence that occurs, a bright light shall shine down through the skies over the land of the dead. And those who see that light shall be bestowed with strength from the land of the dead." It's a Tenebrae legend.
N: We've got the same thing here.
S: Did you receive any strength?
N: No. I don't need anything like that. I'm fine as is.
S: I know, right? No matter what kind it is, if it's at the cost of somebody's life... I'd have nightmares.
N: Pretty much. A ridiculous bedtime story... You shouldn't talk to other people about the light.
S: How come?
N: Being different from others can lead to lot of trouble, don't you think?
S: But if the legend is a bedtime story, then what do you think that light really is?
N: It's just something that's there. Isn't that good enough? Um...
S: Stella
N: Stella. I should be going.
S: I'm sorry for taking up your time, Lord Noctis
N: Just Noct is fine.
S: ... I have to go too. I feel like I've received something from that light tonight. I got a chance to speak with you.
N: You'll have nightmares.
S: You're mean one aren't you, Lord Noctis.
N: Noct.
S: I'll call you that the next time we meet. You should come to Tenebrae some time. I'll show you around.
N: That sounds interesting. I'll think about it.
???: Who are you?
Noct: ... I was about to say the exact same thing.
Source (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15483017&postcount=1797)
There are only a few lines added here and there, but it changes the tone of it a bit, I think. Nomura seems to like the idea of fairy tales with some truth to them.
XwingsofaresX
Apr 16 2009, 03:29 AM
its just pretty much the trailer most people wanted to see, but a decent percentage probably didnt find it likeable.^_^ i liked it, but i was disappointed that there were no voices...:'( i wanna hear them talk.
Aurelia
Apr 16 2009, 03:59 AM
There are only a few lines added here and there, but it changes the tone of it a bit, I think. Nomura seems to like the idea of fairy tales with some truth to them.
Well since this is an RPG, I think it's safe to assume that the fairy tale is going to turn out to be real.
Wandering Hands
Apr 16 2009, 04:24 AM
Maybe Stella will be the wolf in Little Red Riding Hood.
Noctjizz can be the faggy lumberjack who kills her.
Ikkin
Apr 16 2009, 04:35 AM
Well since this is an RPG, I think it's safe to assume that the fairy tale is going to turn out to be real.
To an extent, but probably not entirely. He managed to avoid it in Kingdom Hearts, and it'd seem more fitting for a fairy tale to be real there than in Versus. It wouldn't be mentioned if there wasn't something to it - but there's a difference between "something to it" and "it's true."
Aurelia
Apr 16 2009, 04:44 AM
To an extent, but probably not entirely. He managed to avoid it in Kingdom Hearts, and it'd seem more fitting for a fairy tale to be real there than in Versus. It wouldn't be mentioned if there wasn't something to it - but there's a difference between "something to it" and "it's true."
Well I like the fact that it's a "fairy tale" and not a legend or a rumor. It gives it a whimsical and magical feel.
SANAO
Apr 16 2009, 07:40 AM
fking awesome graphics
Sanji
Apr 16 2009, 07:42 AM
I saw it in HD. Noctis is even fagger and Stella is more annoying. Still, it's impossibile to beat Rinoa.
Sundance Kid
Apr 16 2009, 07:45 AM
I don't mind Stella honestly, I don't understand the hate.
Wandering Hands
Apr 16 2009, 07:56 AM
Probably the whole "I know you don't want to talk to me, but I'm going to follow you around AND BLOCK YOUR ESCAPES AND YAK IN YOUR EAR."
I am vaguely reminded of Rinoa.
"HEY SQUALL. SQUALL. PAY ATTENTION TO ME. I'M GOING TO HELP YOU OPEN YOUR HEART TO LOVE. SQUAAAAAAAAAAALLLLL."
Lulzparty
Apr 16 2009, 08:10 AM
wtf?
Do you live in a forest of penises?
lol... sounds like a good place to commit suicide.
Ikkin
Apr 16 2009, 08:54 AM
Well I like the fact that it's a "fairy tale" and not a legend or a rumor. It gives it a whimsical and magical feel.
Well, "fairy tale" was my phrasing. Though, "bedtime story" isn't really any less whimsical. *shrugs*
Probably the whole "I know you don't want to talk to me, but I'm going to follow you around AND BLOCK YOUR ESCAPES AND YAK IN YOUR EAR."
I am vaguely reminded of Rinoa.
"HEY SQUALL. SQUALL. PAY ATTENTION TO ME. I'M GOING TO HELP YOU OPEN YOUR HEART TO LOVE. SQUAAAAAAAAAAALLLLL."
Was she really blocking his escape? He doesn't seem to be trying to get away, since he keeps answering the questions even when his back is turned - he's just uncomfortable and avoiding eye contact.
•!¦[• kÎm •]¦!•
Apr 16 2009, 11:57 AM
Thanks Stella, now i can understand what they are talking about
Terros
Apr 16 2009, 04:28 PM
Awww, no new stuff. Well I'm pleased to get some more insight to their mannerisms.
epsilon
Apr 16 2009, 06:19 PM
Noctis has some humor. I like the line" you will have nightmare"
No voices for this trailer because the voice actor for Versus XIII is not yet decided.
The body proportion for Stella since to be off. But Noctis look quite good. I think their face is quite well rendered.
The_Steve
Apr 16 2009, 07:50 PM
damn square-enix for not showing any decent gameplay rather than the same two cutscenes we've been watching for years.
Kurai Warrior
Apr 16 2009, 08:03 PM
We havn't been watching them for years...I'm pretty sure we found out about the cutscene last August, which is still a long fucking time ago but still. But most of the stuff comes from mid 2006 to January 2008 which is really fucking stupid.
We barely know anything about the plot still :wtf:
Thunder
Apr 16 2009, 08:59 PM
This is the first time a versus trailer disappoints me :|
the first part was all old so why bothering including it? :wtf:
Sanji
Apr 16 2009, 10:01 PM
But the best part is, some people actually loved it :wtf:
And, of course, called the rest of the trailer "useless" :wtf:
Kurai Warrior
Apr 16 2009, 10:07 PM
Whoever loved it was lost in their own little autistic world. Even the music during the cutscene was an annoying version of the good one in the 2006 trailer.
This trailer sucked big hairy balls :wtf:
And like I said, you can barely call it a trailer....$&^$*^#$
Aurelia
Apr 16 2009, 10:17 PM
haha autistic world... I have to use that.
TEEDA
Apr 17 2009, 01:29 AM
Few screencaps of Noctis I took
Also not that there are some CG scene which you can view in 3D with 3D googles
at the seconds 15 , 33 and 44 I think where you can see those red and blue-wish effects.
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•!¦[• kÎm •]¦!•
Apr 17 2009, 04:24 AM
cool, i can see the many fish in the tank such as shark and some other fish which i dont know them, this sence is very beautiful and romantic, but the sence which the prince comes is different from the scene in vsDK, he looks older than this time, that's strange
Aurelia
Apr 17 2009, 04:27 AM
lol you caught some very lady poses. <3
ShavenHaven
Apr 17 2009, 08:02 AM
Square needs to stop pretending to be so hard to get and show people something of substance! I mean, how can this trailer/cutscene really be convincing to buy FFvXIII as a GAME? I mean, why isn't gameplay the core of the trailers? its not even featured!
As promotion material this isnt really good, I honestly don't understand why I'm so hyped for this game. The only reason might be since I've read all the interviews, but besides that there isnt much information to gather from the small tidbits of footage we have been shown..
overall, I'm glad they finally showed some realtime footage in the new trailer. This game was announced to early, the game is probably going to submerge for a while while FFXIII stands in the spotlight. nice textures, good amount of polygons but stiff animation.
Jaiyonex
Apr 17 2009, 08:27 AM
Well uh, from the translations....I guess that's where Noct gets all those swords from? From the dead people that he said Stella would get nightmares from?
Kurai Warrior
Apr 17 2009, 11:24 AM
Is it just me or does their skin look fuzzy or something? I think they made the lighting brighter in this trailer But I hurts my eyes :wtf:
rutea7
Apr 17 2009, 11:37 AM
i hope they have a decent trailer to show for e3 this year
•!¦[• kÎm •]¦!•
Apr 17 2009, 11:59 AM
Is it just me or does their skin look fuzzy or something? I think they made the lighting brighter in this trailer But I hurts my eyes :wtf:
i dont feel like that, maybe the quality of videos isnt good, the best way is playing the demo:lol:
Thunder
Apr 17 2009, 01:57 PM
lips <33333
stellas face seem a little greysh compared to noctis' :(
ShavenHaven
Apr 17 2009, 02:02 PM
there are some CG scene which you can view in 3D with 3D googles
at the seconds 15 , 33 and 44 I think where you can see those red and blue-wish effects.
Really? hehe, did you really bother to put on those googles? how did that thought cross your mind? I sadly don't have any laying around.
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 17 2009, 02:06 PM
Few screencaps of Noctis I took
Also not that there are some CG scene which you can view in 3D with 3D googles
at the seconds 15 , 33 and 44 I think where you can see those red and blue-wish effects.
http://i42.tinypic.com/2qnp8cn.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/4u6ykx.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/1zdw7b6.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2uo6ezr.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2qis32g.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/sghhc8.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/egaer4.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/242bo89.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/20r1so6.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/ejz9zn.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/9stmqr.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/33p4o7k.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/9u19b8.jpg
Whoa, high quality. I tried taking some of Stella's through that IGN trailer, but it was low quality. Could you take some Stella's, please?
Corelie
Apr 17 2009, 04:31 PM
Sadly we couldn’t see nothing really new, but at least we can now analyze their gesture.
I don’t understand why so many people are discussing how bad the ‘trailer’ was – you should be glad, that ‘secret-treasurekeeper-SE’ at least is showing some ingame footage.
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By the way, can anyone read Japanese?
I tried to figure out the Japanese names of Noctis and Stella, but I’m not sure about it.
(I couldn’t find Stella either >-<…)
Maybe someone could correct me if I’m wrong.
The names are written in katakana, I think.
Noctis:
ノワテイス
No-wa-te-i-su -> NOwaTeISu
Stella used 様 after his name which is supposed to be ‚sama‘.
I’m not sure about it, but it would make sense.
-> ノワテイス様
In the Trailer there is a hiragana ‚ha‘ ( は) after the name.
Makes at least: ノワテイス様は
Nowateisu-sama (ha?) – strange.
I don’t know what this is supposed to be o___O’…
Noct:
ノワト
No-wa-to -> NOwaTo
But i think it’s a bit strange, that there isn’t a japanese honorific.
Stella:
I couldn’t figure it out =_=
*bad in japanese*
It would be nice, if anyone could help me ^__^.
Rideru
Apr 17 2009, 04:40 PM
that last versus trailer was the biggest let down in the history of trailers...
alychan
Apr 17 2009, 09:56 PM
I admit I liked the new trailer, even though I know that it's nothing new...
A question: why are texts in the video written into Italian language?
"IL CAMMINO PER I CIELI" -> "The way across the skies"
"LA MORTE E LA DEA" -> "The death and the goddess"
"LA STELLA INCONTRATA DI NOTTE" -> "The star that is met at night"
"LE MEMORIE DI MORTE" -> "Memories of death"
In the Trailer there is a hiragana ‚ha‘ ( は) after the name.
Makes at least: ノワテイス様は
Nowateisu-sama (ha?) – strange.
I don’t know what this is supposed to be o___O’…
I'm not sure but I think that you can find は always after the subject of a sentence, it identifies the subject if I'm not wrong... ^^""""
Heaven's Cloud
Apr 17 2009, 11:09 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/314553.html
Here's a proper translated version from some guy and Neogaf members, it makes the trailer a bit more interesting to watch
The_Steve
Apr 17 2009, 11:26 PM
why does noct's hair look better than stella's
Heaven's Cloud
Apr 17 2009, 11:42 PM
If you look real closely you'll see that noctis is a women
TEEDA
Apr 18 2009, 12:59 AM
As Requested by Stella here are Stella screencaps
Enjoy =)
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Shock
Apr 18 2009, 01:33 AM
I interested in the light. Not much I can say about the trailer, the graphics did look better than FFXIII but I expected more from this trailer.
Edit: I was late. Oh well.
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 18 2009, 01:49 AM
Thank you so much, Teeda!
TEEDA
Apr 18 2009, 02:15 AM
You' re welcome =)
Aurelia
Apr 18 2009, 03:33 AM
Nomura said the city was based on Italy
The city is based on Tokyo and the rest of the world is based on Italy.
TEEDA
Apr 18 2009, 04:13 AM
I love the main design of VersusXIII. The architecture and character really close to present days.
I could feel some FFVII inspiration directly in the artistic direction. Stella really looks like Aerith Advenc Children.
If I remember this one will feature swords, magic , dragons , summons. And a main story based on Technology vs Magic.
I' m more artistically attracted to versusXIII than FFXIII. I find FFXIII too Star Ocean-ish in the futuristic design and mechanical creatures / bestials. But it does really look good. The FFX touch is really there with lots of Yellow, Blue and white in there.
Where VersusXIII will certainly use more darker colors and plot.
Xion
Apr 18 2009, 07:36 AM
im interested in figuring out what the latin text in the trailer means. I dont speak latin, but i speak spanish and its similar enough that i can make out what it appears to say....but i dont speak latin so...anyway
"IL CAMMINO PER I CIELI" - The way to Heaven
"LA MORTE E LA DEA" - Death in the Day
"LA STELLA INCONTRATA DI NOTTE" - The star found at night
"LE MEMORIE DI MORTE" - The memory of death
i wonder if any of that is what it actually says, it shure appears to.
Sundance Kid
Apr 18 2009, 07:40 AM
8th screencap: "Got that not-so-fresh feeling? Getting a visit from Aunt Flow from Redlands?"
Ikkin
Apr 18 2009, 08:50 AM
Square needs to stop pretending to be so hard to get and show people something of substance! I mean, how can this trailer/cutscene really be convincing to buy FFvXIII as a GAME? I mean, why isn't gameplay the core of the trailers? its not even featured!
As promotion material this isnt really good, I honestly don't understand why I'm so hyped for this game. The only reason might be since I've read all the interviews, but besides that there isnt much information to gather from the small tidbits of footage we have been shown..
overall, I'm glad they finally showed some realtime footage in the new trailer. This game was announced to early, the game is probably going to submerge for a while while FFXIII stands in the spotlight. nice textures, good amount of polygons but stiff animation.
Well, I think you need to take into consideration what this trailer was intended to be. It was never meant to convince people to buy FFvXIII as a game, since it's way too early for that. It was meant to convince people that Versus still existed.
If you remember the context, before this cutscene was shown, there were a lot of people who thought that the game didn't even exist. Nomura didn't want to release much, because it was so early and unfinished, so he just gave us something using the right models and running on the engine.
I think one of the most impressive things about the trailer is the insane amount of antialiasing on the characters. There's enough aliasing in the background to tell that they weren't cheating, but the characters themselves are higher quality than almost anything I've seen on consoles.
Though it's still kind of unusual to me that increasing the size and quality only makes it look better. Youtubing PS2 games used to make them look so much better. XD
StrangeCat
Apr 18 2009, 10:05 AM
Cool trailer! I like the other epic one better with the choir music playing but who cares. So verses, is this going to be him against her because of some old pact with gods or something?
She becomes evil or is possessed by evil. Every time they see each other they fight.
Does anyone have an idea on the story? It looks simply amazing! That painting with Yoshitaka Amano's art work looked so damn real!
Heaven's Cloud
Apr 18 2009, 10:36 AM
I dont think she get possessed where did you hear that, I thought shes from the kingdom that wants the crystal cause its the last one left, shes fighting Noctis because she is enemies with him, im guessing after this ceremony?Party or whatever that Tenebrea invade Nocts kingdom and maybe shes part of an assassination squad because she was has those powers from her near death experience like Noctis
Fojta
Apr 18 2009, 10:41 AM
im interested in figuring out what the latin text in the trailer means. I dont speak latin, but i speak spanish and its similar enough that i can make out what it appears to say....but i dont speak latin so...anyway
"IL CAMMINO PER I CIELI" - The way to Heaven
"LA MORTE E LA DEA" - Death in the Day
"LA STELLA INCONTRATA DI NOTTE" - The star found at night
"LE MEMORIE DI MORTE" - The memory of death
i wonder if any of that is what it actually says, it shure appears to.
It looks ok but this is not latin. If I am not mistaken, it´s italian.
I do speak latin (or how to call it...hell, nowadays nobody speaks latin because it´s dead language...nobody is even sure how it should sound-the pronounciation). But I think the translation is correct, spanish and italian derives from latin so it is similar, thank god:)
alychan
Apr 18 2009, 10:46 AM
im interested in figuring out what the latin text in the trailer means. I dont speak latin, but i speak spanish and its similar enough that i can make out what it appears to say....but i dont speak latin so...anyway
"IL CAMMINO PER I CIELI" - The way to Heaven
"LA MORTE E LA DEA" - Death in the Day
"LA STELLA INCONTRATA DI NOTTE" - The star found at night
"LE MEMORIE DI MORTE" - The memory of death
i wonder if any of that is what it actually says, it shure appears to.
I AM ITALIAN, and this is Italian not latin (I studied latin btw). ^^
LA MORTE E LA DEA -> The Death AND THE GODDESS is the correct translation ;)
Heaven's Cloud
Apr 18 2009, 10:54 AM
I AM ITALIAN, and this is Italian not latin (I studied latin btw). ^^
LA MORTE E LA DEA -> The Death AND THE GODDESS is the correct translation ;)
I assume the death and the Goddess is refering to what ever the painting is representing, as the shinigami(death) or whatever is holding the painting of the goddess Etro
wait just looked it up and that painting isn't supposed to be etro so ... i don't know.
Kurai Warrior
Apr 18 2009, 02:06 PM
im interested in figuring out what the latin text in the trailer means. I dont speak latin, but i speak spanish and its similar enough that i can make out what it appears to say....but i dont speak latin so...anyway
"IL CAMMINO PER I CIELI" - The way to Heaven
"LA MORTE E LA DEA" - Death in the Day
"LA STELLA INCONTRATA DI NOTTE" - The star found at night
"LE MEMORIE DI MORTE" - The memory of death
i wonder if any of that is what it actually says, it shure appears to.
Maybe I'm looking too far into this but "The star found at night"
Stella means star, and Noctis found her upstairs at night so :awesome:
and yeah and the remembering the the "near death experiences they both had"
and I don't know about the other two, but I think I'm onto something :mutantcookie:
alychan
Apr 18 2009, 02:13 PM
Maybe I'm looking too far into this but "The star found at night"
Stella means star, and Noctis found her upstairs at night so :awesome:
and yeah and the remembering the the "near death experiences they both had"
and I don't know about the other two, but I think I'm onto something :mutantcookie:
Please remember that this is Italian and not latin, so not all of the translation posted by Xion is correct, as I said in my last post. (it is THE DEATH AND THE GODDESS). ^^
Anyway, Stella means STAR (both Latin and Italian) and Notte means Noctis in latin and Night in English. So it is awesome indeed. :wub:
Xion
Apr 18 2009, 04:17 PM
oh its italian? my bad. cool i still got most of it right ^^
Vtks
Apr 18 2009, 05:55 PM
i found the in game graphics kind of lame, did you see noct's hair in front of the fishbowl??? it was awful,
so the fishes inside, the water better be darker, even with the lights at the bottom
although the eyes looked very impressive and the night sky to
Aurelia
Apr 18 2009, 06:05 PM
i found the in game graphics kind of lame, did you see noct's hair in front of the fishbowl??? it was awful,
His hair is awful in general. It looks so groddy and nasty, almost nappy. I swear it's as if he put five bottles of hair spray and decided to shampoo his hair with hair gel. Even Cloud's hair isn't that nasty looking.
Noctis has bad hair, bad fashion sense, wears bad shoes, and probably dislikes Cher. Ugh Noctis is one weird gay man.
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 18 2009, 06:11 PM
The in-game graphics weren't that great either. First of all, I thought Stella's hair was like dark blonde from the FMV's and now it appears too light blonde.
I thought it was latin-based but now italian appears, haha.
Sundance Kid
Apr 18 2009, 06:15 PM
Is it me or does Stella look kinda Asian? In parts of the trailer that is...
TEEDA
Apr 18 2009, 06:17 PM
VersusXIII makes me think of the Romeo and Juliet Tragedy. Some scenes.
Like in the car ( Noct with his friend ). Or when he confronts Stella in the street when they both witness that they are in fact opponent.
And of course the meeting scene and the shakespeare quotation.
If that is the case this will be a great Square game...a great inspiration.
Just like in Romeo and Juliet n Stella is focused on something and see Noct arriving and the background the big aquarium
http://assets.hulu.com/shows/key_art_romeo_and_juliet.jpg
Vtks
Apr 18 2009, 06:20 PM
VersusXIII makes me think of the Romeo and Juliet Tragedy. Some scenes.
Like in the car ( Noct with his friend ). Or when he confronts Stella in the street when they both witness that they are in fact opponent.
And of course the meeting scene and the shakespeare quotation.
If that is the case this will be a great Square game...a great inspiration.
Just like in Romeo and Juliet n Stella is focused on something and see Noct arriving and the background the big aquarium
http://assets.hulu.com/shows/key_art_romeo_and_juliet.jpg
a grate CLICHE
Xion
Apr 18 2009, 06:25 PM
its pretty early. The lighting is flat, and the shadows dont reflect the shape of the characters at all. the animation is top notch tho.
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 18 2009, 06:34 PM
Is it me or does Stella look kinda Asian? In parts of the trailer that is...
Not exactly... Or perhaps a mix of European and Asian. At her artwork she had quite round eyes and now it was almond, which is the main characteristic of the asians people--usually.
Noctis seemed asian... More like how Gackt looks now LMAO!
The_Steve
Apr 18 2009, 06:55 PM
The lighting looked flat probably because the lighting in the room was so dim, so shadows wouldn't be dynamic at all. The character's clothes move with great realism. And I"m glad that I didn't see any jagged lines. But Stella's hair needs some work.
And btw, anyone got an idea of how far along Square is with this game? Percentage wise I mean.
Xion
Apr 18 2009, 06:59 PM
they dont say...my guess would be 20-50%.
FFXIII environment is pretty dim as well, its not what i mean. the versus footage just doesnt have full range of shadows and shading.. Im not even sure it will be too different in the final game. The KH team has a different style than the X team. Versus will animate and flow better than XIII, but will most likely have a slightly more toonish look than XIII in terms of how it is lit. what ive seen so far backs that up. its nothing against it, its just a different look.
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2076/ffxiiidemopart20004.jpg
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8684/finalfantasyversusxiiit.jpg
they both look amazing, just not the same.
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 18 2009, 07:02 PM
That reminds me of Yuna, in the game scenes her hair was like ash brown or so, a very very light brown and in the FMVs it was a dark brown.
I guess around 40% or so, since they haven't shown gameplay yet, except those small images.
Vtks
Apr 18 2009, 10:10 PM
That reminds me of Yuna, in the game scenes her hair was like ash brown or so, a very very light brown and in the FMVs it was a dark brown.
I guess around 40% or so, since they haven't shown gameplay yet, except those small images.
hmmmm tno i think that we can guide for the things they dont want to show us
you'll se when ffxiii showed the trailers they were saying that they were in 35's or 40's (percentage talking) so they are possiblyt doing the same, they'll probably be at the 60% of that (not misunderstand me, im not sying they're about to finish the game, i think that they most likely did all de esay parts of the game, to then do the 40% HARD part of it
miss_swimmer
Apr 18 2009, 10:38 PM
The trailer was bleh.. The rainbow ish effects were cool but the cutscene was boring. The melodramatic music in the background made it worse. And Stella's dress is pure ugly. She looks like she belongs in the hospital.
Noctis seemed asian... More like how Gackt looks now LMAO!
ew, gackt. Nomura should really stop basing characters looks off of feminine men.
Vtks
Apr 18 2009, 10:42 PM
The trailer was bleh.. The rainbow ish effects were cool but the cutscene was boring. The melodramatic music in the background made it worse. And Stella's dress is pure ugly. She looks like she belongs in the hospital.
ew, gackt. Nomura should really stop basing characters looks off of feminine men.
have you stropped to think how would the dramatic music would be heard itf tthey had voices????
miss_swimmer
Apr 19 2009, 12:04 AM
^ I dont think it would make a difference if they add voices to it. The somnus theme doesnt fit a cutscence with two people just having a convo.
Heaven's Cloud
Apr 19 2009, 01:29 AM
In the full game I don't think there will be music in the cutscene,
look at this with the sound off and imagine there voice, body language seems fine now and its just like a normal cutscene
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/314553.html
Henry
Apr 19 2009, 01:33 AM
For me trailer was boring
Xion
Apr 19 2009, 02:32 AM
In the full game I don't think there will be music in the cutscene,
look at this with the sound off and imagine there voice, body language seems fine now and its just like a normal cutscene
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/314553.html
ofcourse there wont be music in the game's scene (atleast not this music) this is still technically a trailer.
Sundance Kid
Apr 19 2009, 02:42 AM
Not exactly... Or perhaps a mix of European and Asian. At her artwork she had quite round eyes and now it was almond, which is the main characteristic of the asians people--usually.
Noctis seemed asian... More like how Gackt looks now LMAO!
Like your avy for example compared to the images in your sig, she looks kinda different (to me at least) and yes Noctis does have that j-pop face going on, and apparently Nomura or whoever is responsible for this game is good friends with Gakt from what my friend told me.
Terros
Apr 19 2009, 08:40 AM
You can't really call it a trailer, it was a cutscene with a few clips from trailers at the beginning. And though I thought the scene was well done it was boring.
Thunder
Apr 19 2009, 10:26 AM
Is it me or does Stella look kinda Asian? In parts of the trailer that is...
I thought the same.
She seems like the typical japanese beauty (narrow eyes, little cheek bones, small lips, body postures) whit typical north european colors.
Fojta
Apr 19 2009, 10:58 AM
I thought the same.
She seems like the typical japanese beauty (narrow eyes, little cheek bones, small lips, body postures) whit typical north european colors.
Hm, maybe you are right. But Noctis has become more japanese than was before...
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 19 2009, 03:35 PM
Like your avy for example compared to the images in your sig, she looks kinda different (to me at least) and yes Noctis does have that j-pop face going on, and apparently Nomura or whoever is responsible for this game is good friends with Gakt from what my friend told me.
Yes, that true, Nomura admires Gackt or so. When I saw that Noctis had blue eyes and the black hair like that, he reminded me Gackt. Before with the red eyes and the gray/blue hair, he was different. (Although the eyes are changing for some reason, who knows yet.)
But they also changed Stella... Her lips is smaller and her eyes more narrow, on her artwork her eyes were too big and her lips kinda different. I guess they haven't final designs yet or so.
If I remember correctly, the same happened with Vaan and Ashe, Ashe's design kept changing, she had platinum blonde hair, then brown, then ash blonde and different eyes through those stages.
ShavenHaven
Apr 19 2009, 03:36 PM
Just this morning I noticed a few details I haevnt noticed before. I just really had an eye for details, at the time ...
- look at Noctis' suit, on the back of his jacket he has a cape I haevn't been aware of before.
- The aquarium looks spectatcular, but from one angle it shows it's true flaws. I first thought all of the fish inside were three dimensional, but if you take a look at around 03:38 in the trailer you will see that the fish is animated as Sprites, two dimensional. I noticed it and it bugged me enough to make this post, lame. However, in some instances it really looks fully three dimensional.
more visible here http://e3.endless.com.cn/pics/2009-04/19/FFV13T/31.jpg
Xion
Apr 19 2009, 06:16 PM
You can't really call it a trailer, it was a cutscene with a few clips from trailers at the beginning. And though I thought the scene was well done it was boring.
I said its technically a trailer. "A short filmed advertisement for a movie; a preview"
It is boring in this context (I only find interest in it for the sake of seeing how it looks), since there are no voices, I don't understand what they are saying, and even if I did..I don't know what is going on anyway...playing the game, then in that context it will be different.
The_Steve
Apr 19 2009, 07:30 PM
The fish in the tank are tropical. Many tropical fish are flatish. And yes, I brought up the "trailer" for it's technical aspects, not because it is or isn't awesome.
ShavenHaven
Apr 19 2009, 07:40 PM
The fish in the tank are tropical. Many tropical fish are flatish.
sure, but look at the pixelated jagged outlines and the far left fish which swims out of proportion in the glass.
but never mind, its REALLY not that important at all. give me gameplay.
Pinkicexox>Mrs.Caelum
Apr 20 2009, 12:21 AM
have you ever wondered if maybe the part where noct is fighting the guys w/the guns on the stairs was at a point in his life where he was younger. And maybe the part w/stella was when he was older because in both those scenes he looks compleatly different, like some angles if it wasn't for his hair I would have never guessed by his face that he was the same guy.
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 20 2009, 12:25 AM
have you ever wondered if maybe the part where noct is fighting the guys w/the guns on the stairs was at a point in his life where he was younger. And maybe the part w/stella was when he was older because in both those scenes he looks compleatly different, like some angles if it wasn't for his hair I would have never guessed by his face that he was the same guy.
Hmm, I don't know, but I have a feeling that the whole party scene is a flashback. Probably it takes time in the past, perhaps 1 year ago or so?
Or maybe it's the design, I noticed that they slightly changed the design of the characters.
Heaven's Cloud
Apr 20 2009, 03:06 AM
I think it starts at party, then a day later or so him and his friend are in the car,hear something bad happened back home(Boss guy gives order for invasion), rush hame in the car in which Blondie is freaking out and glasses is explaining what he just heard,they go to the bridge and see smoke like somewhere got attacked, they part ways because they have different duties throughout the kingdom.
Noct goes back to the Crystal, Fights the soldiers and then fights the white hood guy ad has his powers mostly closed off by him, retreats and eventually get's to the bridge with Stella on it(part of a superior squad for taking out special threats to the invasion). And thats all I think so far.
1nOnly
Apr 20 2009, 09:14 AM
I dont know if anyone has posted this but is there any translation made of their little silent chat?
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 20 2009, 04:16 PM
I found this article from Nomura;
Tetsuya Nomura has said that the story and characters for Versus XIII will not be what you expect, and that seems to have already been proven true.
After reading early reports of Noctis, seeing his character design, watching the trailers and reading scans, it appeared that Noctis would be a slightly shy, introverted, quiet character who is noble and good hearted.
While we do know scarce little about Versus XIII, a few things have been confirmed. Noctis is a Prince in his Kingdom and is about to receive the throne, Stella is an embassador from Tenebrae. They meet at a treaty signing, and this sequence was shown in the most recent trailer. Both of these characters seem to have been granted powers by the light, which is said to come from the Godess of Death to those with near death experiences.
After translating the most recent trailer, something unexpected really stood out, that being Noctis' wit and wordplay. It was reminiscent to an extent of Balthier, who had some very well written lines.
S:Lord Noctis... You can see the light...
S:Right?
S: Was that what you were looking at from downstairs?
N:... Pretty much. When did you start seeing it?
S:When I was a child.
N:A near death experience I presume?
S:Yes... you too?
N:It was pretty horrible...
S:The Goddess Etro shall open the gate welcoming the the souls of the dead.
S:When that occurs, a bright light shall shine down through the skies from the land of the dead.
S:That is the legend.
S:It's a Tenebrae legend.
N:We've got the same legend here.
S: Did the light give you power?
N:No. I don't need anything like that. I'm fine how I am.
S:I know, right?
S:No matter what kind of power it is, if it's at the cost of somebody's life...
S:It would give me nightmares.
N:Same. It's a ridiculous bedtime story... You shouldn't talk to other people about the light.
S:How come?
N:Being different from others can cause a lot of trouble...
N: Don't you think?
S:But if it's just a bedtime story, what do you think the light really is?
N:It's just something that's there.
N:Isn't that good enough?
N:Um...
S:Stella.
N:Stella... I should be going.
S:Thank you for your time, Prince Noctis.
N:Just Noct is fine.
S:... I have to go too.
S:I feel like I've received something from the light tonight.
S:... I got a chance to speak with you.
N:Well now you'll have nightmares.
S:You're mean one aren't you, Prince Noctis.
N:Noct.
S:I'll call you that the next time we meet.
S:You should come to Tenebrae some time. I'll show you around.
N:That sounds interesting. I'll think about it.
?:Who are you?
N: ... I was about to ask the same thing. (OR That's my line)
Firstly his wordplay, Noctis links back her comment about receiving something tonight to a statment she made a couple minutes earlier in conversation. Stella gets the reference, and jokingly calls him mean, she herself appreciating his wit. And then there's Noctis' final line, a voice calls out to him from what would appear to be the land of the dead, and Noctis isn't offput or disturbed, instead replying with an interesting line.
That type of dialogue isn't what would be expected from a character who has been described as shy. However Noctis' body language tells a different story in that scene. He's obviously agitated by something, whether it is his shyness coming through as he's alone with someone he doesn't know, whether he is anxious about something that hasn't been revealed to the player, or perhaps he is offput by the presence of the third being in the room (the voice in the light) from the start, especially as Stella doesn't seem to notice it.
Secondly, either both Stella and Noctis are completely ignorant of the powers they have been granted (which would appear to be the most likely scenario) or they both have not received them yet, which is odd, as they've been able to see the light since childhood. Perhaps their powers lay dormant until something activates them? Maybe there must be some type of need before they awaken?
Finally on to Stella, she was suprising in that she is not most similar to Aerith as is the common conception, but instead is more like Rinoa. She definitely isn't shy, she walks straight up to Noctis similar to how Rinoa approached Squall in the ballroom. When Stella walks she holds her hands clasped behind her back like Rinoa, and like Rinoa she jumps when she gets excited and agrees with Noctis. There is a moment in the conversation, just before she goes to leave the first time, where she lingers, not wanting to go, then afterwards she calls Noctis mean, just like Rinoa to Squall. I'm not trying to say she is based on Rinoa, but there are too many similarities (especially for a couple of minutes of footage) not to notice.
Noctis' character seems far more appealing after subbing this trailer, he looks like he could be much more than another of Square's introverted males. Hopefully the whole of Versus is as hard to pin down, if so it should make for a fantastic title.
ShavenHaven
Apr 20 2009, 04:36 PM
Interesting. My thoughts exactly, a postive surprise. His body language really makes you wonder though. First of all, he is polite and he knows how to act in a social setting. However, he excuses himself and says he has to leave, altough he just wants to cut of the conversation and be alone, perhaps because he is s wek know reportedly shy. But perhaps he just feels he needs to mingle with his guest, as I got the impression he is the host of the audible party downstairs.
So, polite and nice, but shy. That would explain him rushing away. Altough I did find it strange that Nocis said he that he was the one having to leave, but then afterwards Stella says so too, and she ends up leaving Noctis instead. probably nothing that she wanted to leave his presence, but rather not let him walk away from her leaving her alone up there. Weird conversation overall..
Stella, where did you find this article? From any professional publication? I would appreciate if you could post a source. thank you:)
Heaven's Cloud
Apr 20 2009, 04:45 PM
It's just from FF-XIII.net but its interesting all the same and good speculations
Stella Nox Fleuret
Apr 20 2009, 09:20 PM
Oh yes. I think it's something official, isn't?
Now, I am confused about something...
Is the Shinigami and the Goddess Etro the same thing? I thought Nomura somewhere said that the painting wasn't of the Goddess Etro and I thought the Death God and Etro being two seperated deities.
And about Stella... I thought she was a princess at first, since she was being described as a Princess in the Fleuret family. (Not sure if it was official or something.)
Aurelia
Apr 20 2009, 09:25 PM
I hope she's not a princess. That would really make things less interesting.
Little Miss Scarlett
Apr 20 2009, 10:04 PM
She's an ambassador isn't she?
As for that little article, I really like what they say they're going to do. Plus I can't really argue with anything if it's similar to Balthier.
SANAO
Apr 20 2009, 10:34 PM
thx for the info @stella :D
Pinkicexox>Mrs.Caelum
Apr 20 2009, 11:19 PM
has any one noticed that his hair looks exceptionally strange during some angles during the party, I mean it looked fine on the stairs and in the car, but the front of his hair at the party looks like it has a mind of it's own. Its like sticking up every which way!
SANAO
May 02 2009, 08:28 AM
YouTube - Final Fantasy The Counting Stars
lol...........
Kurai Warrior
May 02 2009, 05:34 PM
Yeah that dub definitely sucked, I know it was supposed to be funny, but it really wasn't at all :wtf:
Okay the only part that was amusing to me was this.
Noctis: this couch is comfortable...
But that was pretty much it :cookie:
Sanji
May 02 2009, 05:42 PM
Was that supposed to be funny? :wtf:
Aurelia
May 02 2009, 07:42 PM
I could do a better job. :wtf:
Sad thing is I have seen better Naruto fandubs in my day.:wtf:
Aurelia
May 02 2009, 08:18 PM
The Naruto fandubs tend to be funnier than the Naruto Abridged series. God that abridged series is so bland and humorless it hurts.
One of my friends told me to watch it. I almost broke my computer watching.
Kurai Warrior
May 02 2009, 09:12 PM
Avatar the Last Airbender abridged series was good. :awesome:
But anyways, my random friends and I could do a much better job then that.
I'm surprised that's the only dub someone has put up for that scene though.
Considering it's a voiceless cutscene it just screams give me a hilarious dub.
kh2masta
May 03 2009, 03:56 AM
the yugioh abrigded series are the best.
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