Stella is not like Aerith, but like Rinoa. [Archive]

Stella Nox Fleuret

Apr 15 2009, 10:02 PM

After watching the new trailer many times, I felt a bit disappointed. I remember Nomura I think saying that Stella will be different from the previous FF heroines, but now I see that Stella acts like Rinoa. Same gestures and the same way she is chasing down Noctis so to tell her about the'light', even if he doesn't wants.

When I first saw Stella as a character in the first scans including her, I thought she would be a more cold character, more 'strong', kinda a bit like Lightning or so, but now I see she is a new Rinoa.

The_Steve

Apr 15 2009, 10:32 PM

Heaven's Cloud

Apr 15 2009, 10:38 PM

I thought she seemed polite but not afraid to say anything, she has no nerves at all when she's asking a Prince or King( not sure which yet) thing's she isn't allowed to talk about.

Stella Nox Fleuret

Apr 15 2009, 10:49 PM

Can you read Japanese? If not, then how do you know what she was saying, much less know what she is like. Please speculate AFTER some decent info is given.
(And btw, nobody said she was like Aeris/th, they said she LOOKED like her)

Mhmm. I know what she is saying, but I was meaning as a behaviour.

Jeez, relax.

Aurelia

Apr 16 2009, 12:47 AM

Body language speaks louder than words, Steve.

Sundance Kid

Apr 16 2009, 12:58 AM

Can you read Japanese? If not, then how do you know what she was saying, much less know what she is like. Please speculate AFTER some decent info is given.
(And btw, nobody said she was like Aeris/th, they said she LOOKED like her)
Dude unless you're a mod or something don't tell anyone how they should post or speculate. As you can see she understood what Stella was saying so she has that right to make her speculation and voice her opinion.

Yue

Apr 16 2009, 02:13 PM

She acts more cute I think... Sad sad... But maybe... She only acts like that and plan assassination.:perv:

Thunder

Apr 16 2009, 02:59 PM

Zezlar

Apr 16 2009, 07:15 PM

Rinoa was an awesome character I thought, She was in the best FF ever! So bring Stella on!

Aurelia

Apr 16 2009, 07:22 PM

Rinoa awesome? ... maybe in your planet.

Kurai Warrior

Apr 16 2009, 08:12 PM

yeah your gonna have to explain why Rinoa is awesome because I don't get it... :cookie:

Zezlar

Apr 16 2009, 08:13 PM

Well you got to remember that not everyone likes the same things. I can understand that alot of people don't like FF8 or alot of the characters in it. But in my opinion it is the best ever, and the characters were far better than the other FF games. I liked Rinoas personality, looks, and even fighting style.

Thunder

Apr 16 2009, 09:02 PM

Bun

Apr 16 2009, 09:40 PM

Hey, I loved Final Fantasy VIII, but good God almighty was Rinoa one of the most annoying characters I've ever had to suffer with. She was just annoying as shit, chasing after Squall and basically being a...what was it, 16, 17 year old? *shrug* She's a kid and her love was immature and naive. That's exactly what she was. She was no heroine in my book. Squall should've left her in space, imo.

Then again, the only female Final Fantasy character I've ever been impressed by is Lightning. We'll se how she turns out, though.

Kurai Warrior

Apr 16 2009, 10:12 PM

Yeah because most of the females characters have zero depth to them, they have one personality type and that's it. Which usually consists of these: Childish, Motherly, Pure and innocent, or Serious all the fucking time.
They never seem to have more then 2 to 3 different emotions if that.

Sanji

Apr 16 2009, 10:19 PM

Then again, the only female Final Fantasy character I've ever been impressed by is Lightning. We'll se how she turns out, though.

The kitchening process has already begun. They started it by adding that necklace, but what else could they come up with? :awesome:

Aurelia

Apr 16 2009, 10:22 PM

The kitchening process has already begun. They started it by adding that necklace, but what else could they come up with? :awesome:

It's only a matter of time before Snow tames the shrew.

Kurai Warrior

Apr 16 2009, 10:27 PM

By the end she'll probably cry and cling onto a man :wtf:

Stella Nox Fleuret

Apr 17 2009, 01:57 PM

Rinoa was just annoying for me.
Each time you had to save her, let me remind you.

1.When she went to that parade to weak Edea through the Odin Matter.
2.When she fell from the Garden and you had to find a rope.
3.When she went comatose.
4.When she went out to the space controlled by Ultimecia to break Adel's seal.
5.When Seifer kidnapped her or whatever, I don't remember.

At least those ones I remember so far. I hope Stella won't be the same, getting in trouble.

NoctisXStella

Apr 18 2009, 04:33 AM

Stella looks hot. Riona is hott oO ,but Stella is more sexy.

Sundance Kid

Apr 18 2009, 07:27 AM

It's only a matter of time before Snow tames the shrew.
He better not, I'd honestly be pissed at SE if they did that.

meteor

Apr 18 2009, 08:04 AM

Looks a little like my girlfriend:wub:

Ikkin

Apr 18 2009, 08:38 AM

It's only a matter of time before Snow tames the shrew.

I don't see why Lightning is assumed to be the romantic interest for Snow. He seems to be in his late teens and doesn't really think ahead, while she's very serious and focused and definitely at least a couple years into her 20s; the difference in maturity would be pretty huge.

Kurai Warrior

Apr 18 2009, 02:11 PM

I hope he's older then his late teens, dear god look how big he is :wtf:

Devegas

Apr 18 2009, 03:45 PM

Snow might be older than lightning

Stella Nox Fleuret

Apr 18 2009, 06:12 PM

I don't know, I make Snow around 25... Probably older than Lightning.

The_Steve

Apr 18 2009, 07:06 PM

Mhmm. I know what she is saying, but I was meaning as a behaviour.

Jeez, relax.

Yah, sorry for over reacting. Didn't mean to tell you how to speculate. I just think that speculation should be based about 60% on solid facts.
:(

Stella Nox Fleuret

Apr 18 2009, 07:11 PM

Yah, sorry for over reacting. Didn't mean to tell you how to speculate. I just think that speculation should be based about 60% on solid facts.
:(

Yeah well, from the gestures I saw and the treatment was more like Rinoa. But I don't see her much as Aerith at all, I don't know. Her smile seemed more like Yuna's... Perhaps it was me, or whatever.

ShavenHaven

Apr 19 2009, 08:02 PM

I personally favour FF VIII over all the others, particulary because it was my first and therefore it defined final fantasy for me. Rinoa, as a contrast to Squall, worked great in developing Squall as a character. That's the only reason why I could say I liked her as a game character.

Stella, from what I've managed to get a hold of from the translations, doesn't act as hyperactive and naive as Rinoa. She appears far more mature, and altough visibly Extrovert, she is well mannered.

But I agree with Stella (user), the similarity is certaintly there. From older trailers Stella we know that she will inevetably fight Noctis, and doing this while showing good vibes toward Noctis, shows determination and loyalty, another classical Rinoa feature.

Let's hope for more maturity, less whining and more complexeties. "RinHOEa"

Mystearica

Apr 19 2009, 09:51 PM

The only thing I liked about Rinoa (other than her hair) is the way she treated her dad.... you know with her back to him and her hand "flipping" him off

But nah... Stella seems much cooler - at least in the trailer she DOES come face to face with my darling prince as opposed to act like the dame in distress.

SANAO

Apr 20 2009, 02:39 AM

nahhh stella is stella:mutantcookie:

Astraia

Apr 20 2009, 05:49 AM

...um yeah, she kinda acts like Rinoa but i think she's way better because not all girly-ish girls uses a sword as a weapon of choice.... And i like the idea of her pretending to be all nice when she's really out to kill our tragic hero.

..Hmm and stella excels more in the sexiness department. I still hope she'll end up with noctis, though, just don't give the players a hard time like what rinoa did.

Yue

Apr 20 2009, 01:34 PM

It possible that Stella has two faces. If I watch the trailer is hard to believe that she is the same person with the sword. She seems to be a straight but friendly, shy and gentle character.

Henry

Apr 20 2009, 05:05 PM

I'm confused:S

Aurelia

Apr 20 2009, 06:31 PM

It possible that Stella has two faces. If I watch the trailer is hard to believe that she is the same person with the sword. She seems to be a straight but friendly, shy and gentle character.

How is that hard to believe? When people are placed under certain situations, they change to tailor to the issue. In a fancy party, Stella will be happy sappy Rinoa and when her life is threatened, she's a hardened bitch. Sounds perfectly normal to me.

yunaaerial

Aug 02 2009, 03:38 AM

Although Stella's appearance somewhat remind of Aerith, I don't think they share similar personalities. And about Rinoa being the same as Stella for me its also a big "NO". Rinoa a bit more childish than Stella. Stella for me is an intelligent and more mature than Rinoa.

via_myrene

Aug 04 2009, 10:17 AM

I think Stella looks like combination of Rinoa and Aerith, but she have different style ^_^

Topman

Aug 04 2009, 12:13 PM

i don't think they were talking about stella's looks or personality when they said that she'll be more like rinoa than aerith. from what i remember, if i'm not mistaken, it was her first meeting with noctis that will be more like rinoa's and squall's and not aerith's and cloud's.

BUTTCHEEKIES, OOH

Aug 04 2009, 03:42 PM

Urgh, if I have to suffer another obnoxious spazz like Rinoa someone is going to find themselves penisless. Fact.

meshimush

Aug 07 2009, 07:13 AM

Stella is certainly better than Rinoa, in a way she's more polite.
But i think Lightning is like, the totally different female ff chracter than others. I like her

Yuna00

Aug 07 2009, 03:30 PM

I don't get why so much Rinoa hate. I personally liked her. Not that she was the perfect character but I do belive she was "perfect" for the pair she had, Squall.
Squall seems like a less word more action type of person and Rinoa is a good pair for him, I think that's why the game so good, even though it used love as one of the important parts of the plot.

As for Stella, as mentioned, I also belive she is much more mature than Rinoa and perhaps a colder person, at least when things need to be done.
That doesn't mean she can't love the hero or anything, but even if she does that won't get on the way of what she wants.

Thunder

Aug 07 2009, 03:50 PM

I don't get why so much Rinoa hate. I personally liked her. Not that she was the perfect character but I do belive she was "perfect" for the pair she had, Squall.
Squall seems like a less word more action type of person and Rinoa is a good pair for him, I think that's why the game so good, even though it used love as one of the important parts of the plot.
I think i hate Rinoa. But beside my feelings for her i hated the fact that everybody said that she was the perfect girl to pair with Squall.
This was imo the stupidest thing ever, since in the real life, over-hyped-amazingly-annoying girls aint surely the best pairing for anguished-emo boys.

EcZ284

Aug 15 2009, 07:36 PM

She acts more cute I think... Sad sad... But maybe... She only acts like that and plan assassination.:perv:
That'd be awesome. xD

kadzapz

Aug 17 2009, 03:53 AM

well, stella will be noctis' equal in this game.. so i assume stella will be strong and independent

BUTTCHEEKIES, OOH

Aug 17 2009, 05:07 PM

I don't get why so much Rinoa hate. I personally liked her. Not that she was the perfect character but I do belive she was "perfect" for the pair she had, Squall.
Squall seems like a less word more action type of person and Rinoa is a good pair for him, I think that's why the game so good, even though it used love as one of the important parts of the plot.
Importance=/=quality. Every single time someone talks in Rinoa's defense they instead flap their mouths about her achieved trophies rather than her character.

Which I guess can't be helped, the only ounce of substance she ever has as a character is breaking Squall's ice with her incessant shrieking and nagging. Remove that and she's literally just a insufferable bratty whore who ended up in the wrong universe.

I would dump a tl;dr rant on why Rinoa is shit but I'm too lazy to dig through ancient posts right now.

ArgoXavier

Aug 17 2009, 06:48 PM

Maybe someone should come up with a logical reason why they don't like Rinoa, instead of just calling her an annoying bratty whore. Remember, she is technically a high school girl, and anyone who has been in high school knows how they are. I feel she needed to be they way she was (dependent and needy) for Squalls character to develop properly. The relationship between those two is what made the game what it was, and the fact that they didn't 'fit' perfectly together is included in that statement.

Anyways, I would hope that Stella is a little like Rinoa, dependent and needy, but i also would like to see some originality. Make her dependent on Noctis, but also have her be afraid of him or something. Anything to cause more confrontation then there was with Rinoa and Squall. (Don't just have them 'love' each other, but have them love each other and not be emotionally available, that would be kind of cool.)

Kurai Warrior

Aug 17 2009, 11:02 PM

ArgoXavier

Aug 18 2009, 12:45 AM

Why would you want another dependent and needy girl? I personally hope she's cold and independent and kicks ass. I would love her to be an equal rival to Noctis, instead of the weak and indecisive girl, that doesn't know what to do so she just cries and pleas for peace and falls in love with Noctis and wants to have his babies. Meaning she ultimately just becomes useless.

True, but if she was like that i don't think Noctis would develop as a character as much as he would if we saw him taking care and watching over her. Not to be shovanistic, but if Stella is strong and kicks ass and stuff, that will be a disappointment. Mainly because Lightning is an Ass kicking women, and to have them both be that way would suck because that's a similarity between two characters in two games that are close together. I know that's worded weird but that's what I mean.

Ikkin

Aug 18 2009, 05:05 AM

Mainly because Lightning is an *** kicking women, and to have them both be that way would suck because that's a similarity between two characters in two games that are close together.

Just because they're both strong characters doesn't mean that they have to be identical to each other.

It's true that Lightning's a very active and capable character - but from the trailers, she's also abrasive, unwilling to accept or offer assistance, and so focused on her own goals that she doesn't seem to care how that might affect others. She's awesome, of course, but she's still extremely cold.

None of those traits are needed to create a woman who's powerful enough to make a good rival, of course. Stella seems like a much warmer and more friendly character, from the party scene - but that doesn't mean that those who oppose her shouldn't update their life insurance policy first. ;)

Or, alternatively, she might not be the strongest person physically, but she could have the ability to use her opponents' strengths against them, either in battle or politics.

Not that we really know that much about her - but there's no reason to say that she can't be strong without being much like Lightning.

ArgoXavier

Aug 18 2009, 08:33 AM

Just because they're both strong characters doesn't mean that they have to be identical to each other.

It's true that Lightning's a very active and capable character - but from the trailers, she's also abrasive, unwilling to accept or offer assistance, and so focused on her own goals that she doesn't seem to care how that might affect others. She's awesome, of course, but she's still extremely cold.

None of those traits are needed to create a woman who's powerful enough to make a good rival, of course. Stella seems like a much warmer and more friendly character, from the party scene - but that doesn't mean that those who oppose her shouldn't update their life insurance policy first. ;)

Or, alternatively, she might not be the strongest person physically, but she could have the ability to use her opponents' strengths against them, either in battle or politics.

Not that we really know that much about her - but there's no reason to say that she can't be strong without being much like Lightning.

I didn't mean that they would be identical in every manner. I simply meant that to have two female who kick ass in fights would be boring. If Stella kicks ass and Lightning kicks ass, then they both kick ass, that's the similarity i was talking about. If she's smart enough to trick or manipulate a person, that's all fine, but don't feed me the same crap about a physically strong female who kicks everyone's asses. I'm not going to buy that twice.

Haruka no Bachi

Aug 18 2009, 03:42 PM

Aaah... I don't hink so. I gues Stella will be like some kind of Tifa. Don't ask me why ^^
Well... Vanille isn't like these girlie-girls in FF ether, she's like a little sister. So I don't think that stella will fill some images of the classical ff-girls... but IF she would do this... Tifa. ^^

Rinoa... hm... I guess Rinoa is too girlish and obsessed by love xD

Ikkin

Aug 18 2009, 03:43 PM

If she's smart enough to trick or manipulate a person, that's all fine, but don't feed me the same crap about a physically strong female who kicks everyone's asses. I'm not going to buy that twice.

I don't see why you're so upset about that possibility...? They're characters in Final Fantasy games - it's not like the characters' physical strength matters much anyway.

Plus, Stella uses a rapier, which is more of a finesse weapon than a strength weapon anyway - it's not like she has to be that strong physically to hold her own in a fight.

ArgoXavier

Aug 18 2009, 10:22 PM

I don't see why you're so upset about that possibility...? They're characters in Final Fantasy games - it's not like the characters' physical strength matters much anyway.

Plus, Stella uses a rapier, which is more of a finesse weapon than a strength weapon anyway - it's not like she has to be that strong physically to hold her own in a fight.

I think I have strayed from my point. I simply mean to say that I would prefer if Stella was more like Rinoa because of what Rinoa did for Squall's character, and I think it would do the same for Noctis's character development. As well, I would rather not have her swinging swords and doing crazy flips because I think it would cheapen the experience of the whole "tale of the new crystals" series due to the fact that lightning is a sword swinging crazy flip kinda gal. It doesn't mean she has to be weak or stupid. I would just rather see two COMPLETELY opposite kind of characters in the two games. More of a Iago kind of person for those of you who read Shakespeare.

Which brings up another question. I remember early when the first announced versus XIII they said something like it being a modern day Hamlet. Does anybody else recall this? If this is true do you think Stella will end up like Ophelia? Because I think that would be rather interesting.

Thunder

Aug 19 2009, 04:31 PM

Which brings up another question. I remember early when the first announced versus XIII they said something like it being a modern day Hamlet. Does anybody else recall this? If this is true do you think Stella will end up like Ophelia? Because I think that would be rather interesting.No, the only connection with Amlet is the good/bad citation thing of the earliest trailers.

Aurelia

Aug 19 2009, 06:32 PM

:wtf: If Stella wound up going insane like Ophelia, sure that would rock. But being romantically linked to Noctis? No. And like Thula said, the only thing Hamlet related are the quotes from the trailers.

Kurai Warrior

Aug 19 2009, 07:30 PM

I think I have strayed from my point. I simply mean to say that I would prefer if Stella was more like Rinoa because of what Rinoa did for Squall's character, and I think it would do the same for Noctis's character development.

But Noctis won't be like Squall so that doesn't make sense.
I'm not saying she has to be a mindless bloodthirsty bitch the entire time, just that it would be nice if for once that the two opposite genders didn't fall in love for once, that they were actually opponents the entire time. If there was a war going on, would it be realistic for two high members of authority from each side to get together? No not really.

It would be nice to see them have to make decisions that they don't like in order to perform their duties.
You know, instead of the over used scenario where they fall in love and then work together and then one dies or both die.... or some stupid shit like that.

So I still say that it would be awesome if Stella was his equal on the enemy side.
I'm a supporter of bromance as well thank you <3

meshimush

Aug 21 2009, 06:22 PM

:wtf: If Stella wound up going insane like Ophelia, sure that would rock.

I sure hope she does :rolleyes:

ArgoXavier

Aug 23 2009, 06:52 AM

Whether it's original or not, I think she and Noctis will be linked romantically. Or at least they are only enemies by name or something like that. Not saying it's the best way to go, but that's the vibe I picked up.

-dawn.angel-

Aug 23 2009, 01:52 PM

I don't see why Lightning is assumed to be the romantic interest for Snow. He seems to be in his late teens and doesn't really think ahead, while she's very serious and focused and definitely at least a couple years into her 20s; the difference in maturity would be pretty huge.

I don't think he's that young, and I highly doubt they'll ever pair together. In the japanese trailer Snow is seen calling Lightning 'Onee-san' which is japanese for 'older sister'. It's possible that it's just an endearment or something respectful, but I like to think that he calls her that because she really is his older sister. ^_^

Aaah... I don't hink so. I gues Stella will be like some kind of Tifa. Don't ask me why ^^
Well... Vanille isn't like these girlie-girls in FF ether, she's like a little sister. So I don't think that stella will fill some images of the classical ff-girls... but IF she would do this... Tifa. ^^

Rinoa... hm... I guess Rinoa is too girlish and obsessed by love xD

Yeah, I agree with you. Stella seems to be like Tifa more than she is Rinoa (although seeing as I have only ever watched trailers/FMVs of FF8, I really can't judge). Tifa's sweet, charming and everything, but she can kick ass. With the only two scenes where Stella appears, she seems a bit like that. But still, Lightning ftw! :lol: