Does "True Love" Exist?

[Mr. Gorilla]

Does "True Love-" as in a man and a woman (Or a man and a man or a woman and a woman, depending on your tastes)- exist, or is there only lust? Is there really a strong, bonding "love force," or is that belief merely a delusion that people use to mask the reality of sexual attraction in an effort to give it meaning? Is there a spiritual bonding when one loves another, or is it just basic human behavior?

Discuss.

[Saki Liu]

There's this girl I really, really like and its been like three years now and I still havent gotten over her. I think she might like me back, but now I just think she's playing with my feelings.

... either I might've fallen in love with her or im just a sucker for love. It's those damn dreams...
I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard...

[Nex]

I guess some people would call it spiritual, but science has proven that there's a chemical reaction in the human body when you fall in love. So yeah, it exists, and apparently it only lasts for about a year. Sad huh? Pretty much the only instance where science has annoyed me by proving something.

I like to believe there's something spiritual about it. You'll know when you've fallen in love, pretty much every cliche you've ever heard about it suddenly has meaning. And it's definantly not just lust, it's entirely possible to love someone and not care for them sexually.

[RMC]

That's really hard to say cause you can argue either way about the topic.

I would have to say that it really is just a delusion that we just create. When you think about, at least how I can see it, love's ultimate purpose in the end is lust or reproduction. We just add all this other stuff to give it meaning to make it something more then it actually is.

However, it is all this stuff we add to it that makes it something more. Cause it would suck if we just treated it like it actually is, it would feel lifeless, cold, dead. And from this delusion we create for it we make things much more interesting, full or life, give it meaning, purpose (in a way). This goes for the whole bonding love or spiritual connection, it's something that we believe to give it greater purpose. To make it seem like it's not just about sex, lust, sexual attraction or whatever.

Which kind of goes to the human nature of it because, I believe it's human nature for us to make things more interesting in life if we find it boring, eh, sad, or depressing. Cause in the end we all want to be happy no matter what it is we do that makes us happy.

And you know there are people you don't like the whole "bonding love" attachment that some people do and hey that's fine too.

Whether it's in giving attraction more meaning to yourself or even if you don't care and want to just have sex with or be attracted to with anyone and anytime that is completely fine.

I don't know lol just some of my random thoughts on it :D

[Cassette Assassin]

I suppose it depends on what you believe in. Some people believe in luck while others don't. It's all about your perspective. I, personally, have no idea. You'd have to listen to someone with more brain cells then me. ^_^

[Nagase]

I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard... and its not a gross dream either!!

I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard... and its not a gross dream either!!

I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard... and its not a gross dream either!!

I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard... and its not a gross dream either!!

I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard... and its not a gross dream either!!

Idiot .

[Hae]

I have no idea, from what I've experienced it does exist ...for some time but then everything changes all of a sudden, and you just stand there wondering wtf. All I know it kills. Freddie was right >_>.

[Larsal]

It devinitely does exist. I'm in a relationship for about 1 year now and it's true love.
We have so much in common. Ya, there's a soulmate, there's true love.

[3FinalGamer3]

Love is primitive and mostly selfish in my opinion, you love someone for your own good. It's not wrong but it is who we are. Of course you will look for someone suited for you not only from the outside but from the inside too, but that's just because that makes you feel good (selfish) and that makes the person you like more suitable for reproduction (primitive). And yes I do have a boyfriend and yeah I do care for him.

[Yue]

A good question but I don't believe on that. The most people who think they found the true love was thread or be kicked.

[Ventus]

I honestly think the word love has lost its value. People have butchered its worth. You can have a male and female simply make eye contact for a few minutes and can say they've fallen in love. Yet they know absolutely nothing about each other. Ridiculous. You can have a couple go out for a week, heck even an hour and say that they've fallen in love. True love can only be expressed in a fleeting moment. Usually in a very romantic, and memorable moment. They say things like 'forever' or an 'eternity' because the couple wishes they could have that very moment last forever. But of course, 'forever' can only last so long. Love can only be established through committment, trust, dedication and time. You can boast that you've gone out with your girl for 5 years yet you've been secretly seeing another woman for the last 2 years. That isnt love, perhaps lust, maybe even a burden. What is true love? Who knows, and who cares. Nothing lasts forever, change is inevitable. It just a matter of time until one tires of the other and decides to seek change, something 'new.'

[●S.K.Y●]

There's this girl I really, really like and its been like three years now and I still havent gotten over her. I think she might like me back, but now I just think she's playing with my feelings.

... either I might've fallen in love with her or im just a sucker for love. It's those damn dreams...
I heard that if you have a dream about a person you fall for them... hard... and its not a gross dream either!!

Go for it ! Man! , No pain...No gain , tell her that you love her straightly , be brave! you have to take a risk! :thumbsup:

[NEALBLEWMEONCE]

I agree with Nex and RMC; couldn't have said it better myself.

It can be meaningless, or mean everything to you.

It can be a religious experience, or it can be 'basic human behavior'.

It can be chemical, or it can be spiritual.

The only 'correct answer' may be to say that there is no 'correct answer'.

In other words, a subjective answer based on an individual's perspective.

In my opinion love is something to be cherished and nurtured whenever and wherever you find it.

Sure you can break it down to some abstract positive mental interpretation of chemicals, but if that decreases your ability to feel and appreciate love then I say it's to be avoided at all costs! :D

[Misschoco]

I hate this topic because its the reason why it makes me so depressed on weekends.Dont ask stfu.

Well If you define true love as an image in your head of a couple drawn to each other forever and only caring for the others need for their sake w/e etc..Then 'personally' I'v never actually witnessed this...although you may have but i doubt that too.

You mentioned a 'Strong bonding love force' but this could also apply to the love between a mother a child and doesnt necesarily include sexual desire...So Love only 'transcends' lust.<<No i dont actually think I could clarify myself properly.Love does include a physical/chemical process as mentioned by Nex.Biologically there is no diference between a mother and childs love and a Man and womens love its just how society interprets it.

There are so many definitions of true love and thus it doesnt share a universal meaning since it is variable.

[CaptainCortez]

Lol, same for me choco. :(

Hmm, true love.........well, I think it exists for some people, but it's very hard to find.

It seems like the majority of people only want to go out and have "a bit of fun", screwing each other with no strings attached.

I don't agree with that, and haven't ever. I believe that you should wait for the right person before going all the way, but people don't really think like that anymore, and for those who do (myself included naturally), they are a pretty small minority, which is saddening and somewhat depresses me.

One night stands are lust. Elizabeth Swann and Will Turner in pirates of the caribbean represents what true love means to me.

I used to get picked on in high school, and pretty much on a weekly basis, I'd have girls coming up to me and asking me out, only to take the piss out of me and insult me by saying "as if I'd ever go out with a geek/p**** like you", so needless to say I didn't get many gf's in school.

In year 11, I flipped out and wouldn't take crap from anyone anymore, and went psycho at anyone who started on me, so the bullying stopped.

I left school and became a completely different person, and as a result of that, things happened which I thought wouldn't.

This was girls being interested in me. I started getting girls flirt with me, whistle at me etc, and as a result of my past, I thought everyone was doing it to be nasty, but they weren't and generally liked me. I was convinced I was the worst looking person alive, and couldn't understand or believe a girl would actually like me.

Anyway, eventually I got over this, and well eventually got over a girl who I loved when I was in high school. Took 4 years to get over her, and I knew her for 3 years, but she broke my heart when she started sleeping around. We were best friends, and when I asked her out in high school, she said she would have gone out with me if she wasn't already with someone.

Anyway, I got with quite a lot of girls after high school, as I had lots of confidence in the end, but I eventually found someone else.....well two girls who I felt that it might be love again with them, and I'm pretty sure it was. My feelings were still messed up though, as I'd been ditched so many times, that I had hardly any feelings left for anything.

Anyway, both girls left me for someone else and cheated on me. The first one named Clair seemed like a really nice person, but had a lot of issues, and after 2 months decided to use my own insecurities against me as reasons for the break up, when she'd been seeing this womaniser who I knew and hated behind my back the whole time, and the other girl said she liked me too much in the end and didn't want to ruin anything, so s aid she wants to go out with someone who she had no feelings for (who she was also seeing behind my back), and threw away everything we had, so I said I don't ever want to speak to her again, and hate both of them.

Hatred's not a nice thing, but I guess if you get treated really badly, that's a result of it......so, maybe I just haven't found the right girl yet, or I might not ever find the right girl, so I don't think I'll ever find true love. I've been disillusioned too much, and as a result, have little trust in girls now. The only ones I trust are my good friends. I guess the worst things happen to the best of people or some crap like that.

I know what true love is, but just have doubts that it exists for me at least.

Lol, sorry for the essay, but hopefully it amused you or gave you a little bit of a better understanding? I dunno.:lol:

[Selryam]

Lol, same for me choco. :(

Hmm, true love.........well, I think it exists for some people, but it's very hard to find.

It seems like the majority of people only want to go out and have "a bit of fun", screwing each other with no strings attached.

I don't agree with that, and haven't ever. I believe that you should wait for the right person before going all the way, but people don't really think like that anymore, and for those who do (myself included naturally), they are a pretty small minority, which is saddening and somewhat depresses me.

This. :aldo:

True love probably does exist, but flippant sex killed it off. Kind of. Just to explain my view of it bluntly.

[CaptainCortez]

Hey again man. Nice to know people actually agree with how I see things. It could be said a lot more bluntly than that, but then the people explaining it would look like the bad ones I guess.

Well, I'm happy for those of you who have found true love. ^_^

It's just pretty much the rest of us who want it, who have little to no hope with finding it, it seems.

[●S.K.Y●]

Down boy . True love is rare in this dog-eat-dog world where everyone cares only benefits and competes with each other all the time. Because true love means like you don't care about the external values (good-looking,high-social,prestige,sex,money,wealthy) , even she/he 's ugly or very poor but you still love his/her because you look only what's inside of his/her mentality and it means you focus on abstraction , not material object. This type of people are quite rare , but i didn't say there's no this type of people at all , there is , but it's minority ,you have to find which is alot difficult! While majority is caring about the material object.

You're sittng drinking Espresso inside Starbucks and then you see some beautiful fucking hot sexy lady who's like come from America's Next Top Model and you also notice that she's coming with another pal who looks like old fat plain lady , coming inside to buy coffee , and do you think who will you decide to make a move and start the fiery love with?



C'mon 99% will choose that hot supermodel chick for sure , because every people especially guys always focus on externality first. Love at first sight is in everywhere , but true love is almost extinct because we're in material world. But if you open your mind enough to accept somebody who's not perfect,not hot,not a supermodel,not good-looking,not rich,not famous, and still love them all of your heart with no any conditions behind , can sacrifice yourself to them , loyal,pured,devoted and without sexual business thought , so this is what the true love is. It's about the mentality and abstraction which is hard to find this type of people. Therefore , no need to be the hunger restless warrior who's still seeking for the lost part of him.

Otherwise , another meaning of true love,it can be described as the development from love at first sight , once you engaged with your gf/bf who you looked at the externality first , and then continue passion with the sexual way , and then finally can match up physically and mentally and can last the long-term love together with no cheating or any disasters , this can describe true love,too. Because you two understand each other's feeling , even no words, but you two can understand that how much love you're to each other. It's a soulmate thing.

[Kätharina]

True Love is bullshit :wtf:
It's just a fake emotion which is confused with Lust. :aldo:

[Hae]

True Love is bullshit :wtf:
It's just a fake emotion which is confused with Lust. :aldo:
Seriously that's what I told the person i love. One day he's like "i love you" and the next day he's like "i don't know".
Wtf.

[●S.K.Y●]

Idiot .

No. It's Romantic :wub:

Redtail , don't forget , go for it! Cheers!

[Saki Liu]

That whore was playing mind games.

LOVE SUCKS!!!! :(

[●S.K.Y●]

That whore was playing mind games.

LOVE SUCKS!!!! :(


You have to be brave , tell her straightly that you love her! take a risk ! you must dare , No pain...No gain.

Mind game is challenge , isn't it?

Don't give up , if you can beat so she'll be proud of you for sure!

Waiting along for 3 years , it requires alot of patience! and i know you have alot of it!

But you have to play the role of risk taker now ^^!!!

If i were you , i will tell her straightly that i love her! no need to hide the feeling.

If she refuses you , then you're done of it , but if it's in between hesitant , then you should stride! Be confident man!

I cheer ya! Fighting!

[Kätharina]

You have to be brave , tell her straightly that you love her! take a risk ! you must dare , No pain...No gain.

Mind game is challenge , isn't it?

Don't give up , if you can beat so she'll be proud of you for sure!

Waiting along for 3 years , it requires alot of patience! and i know you have alot of it!

But you have to play the role of risk taker now ^^!!!

If i were you , i will tell her straightly that i love her! no need to hide the feeling.


If she refuses you , then you're done of it , but if it's in between hesitant , then you should stride! Be confident man!

I cheer ya! Fighting!


You, shut up.

Love is a non existent emotion which is blinded through lust for the opposite being which you find attractive.
Stop reading Yaoi, it does no favors for your stupid opinion.

Women do not want a guy who is a risk taker, unless they are fucking stupid. :wtf:

Words and feelings mean nothing in the art of manipulation. I should know, I'm a total bastard <3
:awesome:

[Luriana]

You, shut up.

Love is a non existent emotion which is blinded through lust for the opposite being which you find attractive.
Stop reading Yaoi, it does no favors for your stupid opinion.

Women do not want a guy who is a risk taker, unless they are fucking stupid. :wtf:

Words and feelings mean nothing in the art of manipulation. I should know, I'm a total bastard <3
:awesome:

<3333 hoe.

Fullest. Humans are just like many other animals, they have instincts, sexual instincts, L-U-S-T. Then you would say: "LOL NOE hoominz hav intelligenz. dey can haz feelingz."

BOLLOCKSSSSS

What people call love is just a manifestation of respect for the other person, a feeling that it's good to be at that person's side, either because he/she's funny, same tastes etc. But deep inside, all you feel is sexual attraction. ANIMAL MAGNETISMZ.

kthxbai :aldo:

[dilldoe]

it depends what you're looking for. as long as you're honest of your intentions, you'll get what you find and you'll find what you seek :P

I'd go beyond saying its just Lust though, personally man. You can lust over a picture, of a person you've never met. I'd go beyond also, simply emotional - you feel emotions for your friends and family, but you don't neccessarily want to copulate with them. Only due to confusion of that lust or emotions would an individual have that desire. I would say, what it is, True Love, real companionship, actual desire - it is a collection of all these things. And of all of life. It is of seeking and finding someone, that you lust after, AND that emotionally fulfills you, and intellectualling challenges you, and of finding someone, that you wish to unite with - of finding your other half in this world, that will complete you and you complete them fully in everyway - of finding the one person who you NEED. and who needs you. you better hope so anyway. :P Also, it is imperative, within no shadow of a doubt, also, that she MUST have awesome bouncy boobies :ohmy:

[Luriana]

MUST have awesome bouncy boobies :ohmy:

:wtf:......

[dilldoe]

HIGH FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Luriana]

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[dilldoe]

:ohmy: PAPA!!! YOU HAVE COME HOME PAPA!!!! he always said he would :'( I DIDNT BELIEVE HIM!!!!:nag: TELL ME OF AMERICA PAPA!!!!

[Misschoco]

:ohmy: PAPA!!! YOU HAVE COME HOME PAPA!!!! he always said he would :'( I DIDNT BELIEVE HIM!!!!:nag: TELL ME OF AMERICA PAPA!!!!
SHUT UP.



tbh.I think most opinions have been stated.I dont care too much about true love to really debate about it. Im not a selfish whore just that Im not gona chase the meaning from something if its not really going to benefit me in any way.I'v just contradicted myself. If your curious I do have a previous post where i have noted what i think,so gtfo.

[dilldoe]

:'( this is not papa? so when will papa come home?

er money cant buy you love. all you ready need is love. hey boy where did you get it from hey boy where did you go? i learnt my passion in the something something loverboy you dont have to believe in love but you'll know it when you see it ;)

[Ixion]

Well, right now my true love is for things that only exist in fantasy. I'm basically still open to the deep ideas that everyone is giving. Such constituted people we have here. Great topic of dicussion IMO.:rolleyes:

[Misschoco]

:'( this is not papa? so when will papa come home?


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C'mon 99% will choose that hot supermodel chick for sure , because every people especially guys always focus on externality first. Love at first sight is in everywhere , but true love is almost extinct because we're in material world. But if you open your mind enough to accept somebody who's not perfect,not hot,not a supermodel,not good-looking,not rich,not famous, and still love them all of your heart with no any conditions behind , can sacrifice yourself to them , loyal,pured,devoted and without sexual business thought , so this is what the true love is. It's about the mentality and abstraction which is hard to find this type of people. Therefore , no need to be the hunger restless warrior who's still seeking for the lost part of him.
Wouldnt that basically be called 'finding someone incredibly hot wanting to have sex with them but not wanting to be devoted to them' Not every man wants commitement at first its pure sexual lust when they would see the supermodel chick.Usually our collective views have shaped what we deem as a society as attractive...of course media has played a part but i'd rather not go into detail.
How people think and behave in love is influenced by their conceptions of love. You cant set down beliefs of what true love is that everyone will follow or adhere to. People will have different views on how they see true love.

[dilldoe]

so is that papa or not? :| im getting fed up of him playing around he can piss off now i dont even want him coming home :nag::nag:

Wouldnt that basically be called 'finding someone incredibly hot wanting to have sex with them but not wanting to be devoted to them'

on the more serious note, I agree with you there ;) that's not love, that's sex as a sport. Given a choice of the "sexy image of a woman" or the "average woman" (physically) to have unabated sex with; I'd go with the sex vixen, obviously. BUT, when you're talking about, someone to settle down with; someone to set up a life with, then that goes beyond the physicality. Obviously you're gonna hvae to be physically attracted to them, that's all a part of it. But if the beauitful model hated your guts, whereas the "average" (there is no average there's only popular thought but thats the most befitting word here) loves you unconditionally, then THAT is another sort of beauty, you know. A stronger attraction.

[CaptainCortez]

Well, tbh you have to be really shallow to go out with someone for their looks alone.

I haven't gone out with ultra high maintenance girls/supermodel level girls or whatever, simply because I don't want to go out with someone who's in love so much with theirself, that they can't love anyone else. Plus of course, they're so far stuck up their own arse, that everything has to be about them.

Pass, cheers.

[NEALBLEWMEONCE]

Well, right now my true love is for things that only exist in fantasy.


Here's a deep questoin: Could it be that true love is a thing that only exists in fantasy?

(That oughta drag this thread out for at least a few more posts :P)

Edit: I just realized that was what the OP asked in the first place. Nevermind!

[●S.K.Y●]

I think true love is related to destiny.

[CaptainCortez]

Well maybe, but then you have to decide if you actually believe in destiny or not.

I personally don't believe in it, and like to believe I'm actually writing my life out, as I'm going through it. Not having it written out for me so to speak.

I like to have control of my own life, instead of believing in fate, in turn, signifying that it's being controlled by some kind of unknown force.

[Luriana]

I like to have control of my own life, instead of believing in fate, in turn, signifying that it's being controlled by some kind of unknown force.

GOD lawl. :aldo:

It's just like you said, it's just ridiculous to believe in fate IMO. Like Keanu Reeves once said in The Matrix, "I don't like to think I don't have control of my life."
It's all about yourself, gd.

[CaptainCortez]

Haha, yea. Neo had the right idea. XD

[Luriana]

Fate is for the weak people to believe in. Come on wigga, you have control of your own life.

[●S.K.Y●]

Ok, i agree with Luriana and CaptainCortez.

We don't need to rely on fate.

But we have to stand for ourselves.

[Wacka14]

I believe everything that happens was predestined to happen that way. I also believe we have free will to choose what we do, but the things we choose were always going to happen the way they do.

In other news: Young people today don't search for love, they search for convenience. What works out currently and doesn't feel to bad. It's pathetic and I'll have no part in it. I think "True Love" must be worked at/for, but people are lazy.I've never been in love but I'm sure somebody worthy will come along some day^_^ I don't mind waiting.

[Ixion]

Well maybe, but then you have to decide if you actually believe in destiny or not.

I personally don't believe in it, and like to believe I'm actually writing my life out, as I'm going through it. Not having it written out for me so to speak.

I like to have control of my own life, instead of believing in fate, in turn, signifying that it's being controlled by some kind of unknown force.
The only fate that I truely believe in is eventual birth and rebirth of new life. And with our lives comes new love for us humans that we give meaning to since we can and feel this way even when we try to contradict it. But I still do agree with you though about writing your own life. Still, even writing your own life is fate as well as for love.
Love is evol.:lol:

[●S.K.Y●]

I believe everything that happens was predestined to happen that way. I also believe we have free will to choose what we do, but the things we choose were always going to happen the way they do.

In other news: Young people today don't search for love, they search for convenience. What works out currently and doesn't feel to bad. It's pathetic and I'll have no part in it. I think "True Love" must be worked at/for, but people are lazy.I've never been in love but I'm sure somebody worthy will come along some day^_^ I don't mind waiting.


Yeah , actually i absolutely agree with you Wacka14 , everything that happens was predestined before. It happens because it has to happen , it happens for the reason , not casual. I believe in causality.Because someones can't choose their own lives because of specific reasons , and i think this is the fate, the unknown force.




The only fate that I truely believe in is eventual birth and rebirth of new life. And with our lives comes new love for us humans that we give meaning to since we can and feel this way even when we try to contradict it. But I still do agree with you though about writing your own life. Still, even writing your own life is fate as well as for love.

Love is evol.:lol:



Yeah , it's about reincarnation. And it seems you're humanitarian , aren't you?

[dilldoe]

I dont believe in predestiny, I dont believe in fate. I believe, that some things that happen, happen due to a force beyond our own power. But I dont believe that we have no control over our actions, or that we act on "auto-pilot". I believe what appears to be "fate", what appears to be "pre-destiny", is simply a chain of events and actions, and variables so intricate, and so massive in its scope, that it appears as though nothing could have stopped it from happening, and that it was "destined" to happen. In a way it was. In a very basic way, it was "destined" to happen; but not due to lack of control. What you do now, the concious actions you do, the concious choices you make, will affect the future, and future generations. If you do something now, that has a slow delayed physical effect that'll be apparent in 100 years, or more even; then that event will appear to the people living in 100 years time, as "fate". It'll appear as if they had no control. But YOU always have control, you always have power. Maybe not to stop it. Maybe not to change it, even. But you have the power to decide what to do when that event occurs. And as such, you'll create a new event. Maybe something Bad, maybe something Good. And again, something will be created out of THAT event. And so-on and so-forth; because such is Progession, and such is the nature of our Universe.

[●S.K.Y●]

Here's the True Love Quotes:

Jeff Zinnert
Love is something eternal; the aspect may change, but not the essence.

Antoine de Saint-Exupery
True love begins when nothing is looked for in return.

William Butler Yeats
True love is a discipline in which each divines the secret self of the other and refuses to believe in the mere daily self.

Marcel Proust
Love is space and time measured by the heart.

Charlotte Elizabeth Aisse
I could never love where I could not respect.

Anonymous
Sometimes we let affection, go unspoken,
Sometimes we let our love go unexpressed,
Sometimes we can't find words to tell our feelings,
Especially towards those we love the best.

Voltaire
Love has features which pierce all hearts, he wears a bandage which conceals the faults of those beloved. He has wings, he comes quickly and flies away the same.

William Shakespeare
Love is a smoke made with the fume of sighs.
Being purged, a fire sparkling in lovers' eyes.
Being vexed, a sea nourished with lovers' tears.
What is it else?
A madness most discreet,
a choking gall and a preserving sweet.

From the movie 'Moulin Rouge'
Love is a many splendid thing. Love lifts us up where we belong. All you need is love!

Bryce Courtney
Love is energy: it can neither be created nor destroyed. It just is and always will be, giving meaning to life and direction to goodness... Love will never die.

Charles Stanley
Romantic love reaches out in little ways, showing attention and admiration. Romantic love remembers what pleases a woman, what excites her, and what surprises her. Its actions whisper: you are the most special person in my life.

Thomas Trahern
Love is the true means by which the world is enjoyed: our love to others, and others' love to us.

Honore de Balzac
True love is eternal, infinite, and always like itself. It is equal and pure, without violent demonstrations; it is seen with white hairs and is always young in the heart.

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Love alone is capable of uniting living beings in such a way as to complete and fulfill them, for it alone takes them and joins them by what is deepest in themselves.

Lao Tzu
Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage.

Sir Arthur Wing Pinero
Those who love deeply never grow old; they may die of old age, but they die young.

Leo Tolstoy
When you love someone, you love the whole person, just as he or she is, and not as you would like them to be.

William Shakespeare
Love looks not with eyes, but with the mind.

[dilldoe]

cool you could of just picked your favourite though :P

i think love is something you have to work at, is not all magic and seven dwarfs :nag: you find someone you can stand to be around longer than 5 minutes and you dont let go of em :P boobie

[Nagase]

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[●S.K.Y●]

you find someone you can stand to be around longer than 5 minutes and you dont let go of em :P boobie

It's love at first sight. And how about if you found that she's not woman?

[Kätharina]

What if we found out you where a faggot?

[sobchack]

love is what your dick decides it to be, when it comes down to it. doesn't kill romance, just means there is no "one"
I believe everything that happens was predestined to happen that way. I also believe we have free will to choose what we do, but the things we choose were always going to happen the way they do.
that's not free will

[Teggles]

Come on, let's not overstate what it is. Love is just lots of emotions, like affection, attraction and compassion. Does it exist? Of course it does. But let's also not pretend it's just the direction some guy's dick points at.

[Ventus]

Love is no more than a human construct. Its something everyone hopes to achieve. However, as mentioned before, the word "love" has lost its value and is constantly misinterpreted for lust.
I've noticed but dont throw the word lust around so lightly. The distinction between love and lust should be obvious. The point of the matter is... until we've gone through several relationships of love, not mutualism or lust in our life, then we will come to understand its true meaning.
You can't fall in love after committing a few minutes or days. Thats just absurd.

[Luriana]

I believe everything that happens was predestined to happen that way. I also believe we have free will to choose what we do, but the things we choose were always going to happen the way they do.

That's insanity.

[Wacka14]

I don't see why it's insanity. We 're not robots. I believe we're perfectly l in control of what we do, but we were always going to make that choice. It was never going to happen differently. People are so worried and paranoid about not feeling in control, it's depressing how much they freak out

Yeah , actually i absolutely agree with you Wacka14 , everything that happens was predestined before. It happens because it has to happen , it happens for the reason , not casual. I believe in causality.Because someones can't choose their own lives because of specific reasons , and i think this is the fate, the unknown force.


wow. I never expected anyone here to even slightly agree with my views on this:|

I'm completely surprised that anyone on this forum agreed
Love is no more than a human construct. Its something everyone hopes to achieve. However, as mentioned before, the word "love" has lost its value and is constantly misinterpreted for lust.
I've noticed but dont throw the word lust around so lightly. The distinction between love and lust should be obvious. The point of the matter is... until we've gone through several relationships of love, not mutualism or lust in our life, then we will come to understand its true meaning.
You can't fall in love after committing a few minutes or days. Thats just absurd.

Word up. Love at first sight is a crock, and an immature, laughable one at that

[●S.K.Y●]

Yeah , we can control our lives. But i mean the structure , it's the causality (fate). I mean the 'source' of all construction. How can you choose to be born as caucasian,asian,or african , how can you choose to be born from this or that family , how can you choose to be born in male or female body, or how can you choose to be born as disabled person or regular person. It's absolute out of control in this thing , which is the source , the structure. But when you're born and collect all of your experiences. At the certain point you can choose your own way and can control your life. Everyone's dependent and must rely on the factors. You can succeed or fail , it depends on your experiences and your selection. The causality just draws the pattern , but you can change it with your hands if you're on the right way. Because life does not have the fixed formula , it has variation and complexity , even though you say we have to work hard or something like that so we can be like Bill Gates , it can be possible and can be impossible for individuals. Someone works so hard but he can't succeed in life , there're many samples in this case. Just depends on time,place,chance and you own experience.

This is the Merovingian's quotes from The Matrix Reloaded , i've found it's interesting.

Merovingian (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933727/): You see there is only one constant. One universal. It is the only real truth. Causality. Action, reaction. Cause and effect.

[Neo's hand drips a little blood after stopping a sword swing in full flow]
Merovingian (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933727/): You see: he's just a man.

Merovingian (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933727/): What is the reason? Soon the why and the reason are gone and all that matters is the feeling. This is the nature of the universe. We struggle against it, we fight to deny it; but it is of course a lie. Beneath our poised appearance we are completely out of control.

[sobchack]

are you seriously quoting the matrix to prove a point?

also nothing of what you said has anything to do with fate.

[Nagase]

Yeah , we can control our lives. But i mean the structure , it's the causality (fate). I mean the 'source' of all construction. How can you choose to be born as caucasian,asian,or african , how can you choose to be born from this or that family , how can you choose to be born in male or female body, or how can you choose to be born as disabled person or regular person. It's absolute out of control in this thing , which is the source , the structure. But when you're born and collect all of your experiences. At the certain point you can choose your own way and can control your life. Everyone's dependent and must rely on the factors. You can succeed or fail , it depends on your experiences and your selection. The causality just draws the pattern , but you can change it with your hands if you're on the right way. Because life does not have the fixed formula , it has variation and complexity , even though you say we have to work hard or something like that so we can be like Bill Gates , it can be possible and can be impossible for individuals. Someone works so hard but he can't succeed in life , there're many samples in this case. Just depends on time,place,chance and you own experience.

This is the Merovingian's quotes from The Matrix Reloaded , i've found it's interesting.

Merovingian (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933727/): You see there is only one constant. One universal. It is the only real truth. Causality. Action, reaction. Cause and effect.

[Neo's hand drips a little blood after stopping a sword swing in full flow]
Merovingian (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933727/): You see: he's just a man.

Merovingian (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933727/): What is the reason? Soon the why and the reason are gone and all that matters is the feeling. This is the nature of the universe. We struggle against it, we fight to deny it; but it is of course a lie. Beneath our poised appearance we are completely out of control.

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq307/JesusBlewMeOnce/1233132303079.jpg

[●S.K.Y●]

http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq307/JesusBlewMeOnce/1233132303079.jpg


Ok , i surrender , i don't know what else to write in this topic again , empty in my head. It's nonsense , yeah it's actually nonsense , im so sorry for that. Up to your opinion , i just shared my thought from my dull brain. I've never been perfect but neither have you.

[Nagase]

Ok , i surrender , i don't know what else to write in this topic again , empty in my head. It's nonsense , yeah it's actually nonsense , im so sorry for that. Up to your opinion , i just shared my thought from my dull brain. I've never been perfect but neither have you.
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq307/JesusBlewMeOnce/1233918278950.jpg

[Kätharina]

Ok , i surrender , i don't know what else to write in this topic again , empty in my head. It's nonsense , yeah it's actually nonsense , im so sorry for that. Up to your opinion , i just shared my thought from my dull brain. I've never been perfect but neither have you.

WHY DO YOU KEEP CHANGING SEXXXXXXXXXXX?
Or am i fucking smoking plastic again.

[Luriana]

PLASTIQUE fdassd

[Teggles]

Nagase, if you can spam the Serious Discussion board, then I can.

This topic is now about Daniel Faraday.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/080423/Lost/daniel-faraday_l.jpg

Fuuuuck, if there's anyone I want to look like, it's this guy. Badass.

P.S. Cynthia your posts make sense, they're just really simple points covered with pseudo-philosophy and hippy-bullshit

[Luriana]

THIS TOPIC AIN'T SERIAZ. 'Cos love ain't seriaz.

Dan Faraday? ew. Even Neal looks better than him.

[Teggles]

Sorry, I just have a raging hardon for engineer/scientist-type people with unkempt facial hair.

And I'm not even gay.

[Luriana]

Sorry, I just have a raging hardon for engineer/scientist-type people with unkempt facial hair.

And I'm not even gay.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9919/shytr9.jpg

:wtf:

nah i kid.

[Kätharina]

Is this the perfect time for me to go get my tight labcoat and fake mustache. :wtf:

[●S.K.Y●]

Sorry, I just have a raging hardon for engineer/scientist-type people with unkempt facial hair.

And I'm not even gay.

Alarm?

You're afraid of being incriminated. Everytime you always worry that it will happen as apparently there's no one start to blame you. You keep running away as indeed it doesn't chase you. Think about it , genius , you get it.

[JOLENE]

http://i41.tinypic.com/2lb2q9y.png

[Luriana]

WAT.

:kira:

[admh]

me & my girl have a love hate relationship, i love her & she hates me

[Luriana]

http://www.crossroadforums.com/gallery2/d/386667-1/wtf+is+this+shit+piccard.jpg

[Dream Machine]

YouTube - Daniel Faraday- I wanna have your babies

The internet just threw up.

[Luriana]

The internet just threw up.

People should only be allowed to post videos on YouTube after passing a rigorous IQ test.

[Renzokuken]

I'm confused, when i joined i came to talk about true love and then i got to the last page and there was a bunch of youtube puke of Daniel Faraday...

since when does youtube have to do with true love....and more importantly....who the .... is Daniel Faraday?!?!?!?!?!?

[●S.K.Y●]

i like how this thread's going , from love to Daniel Faraday ..... ummmmm:willis:

[Misschoco]

Okay yeah piss annoying, spam a little bit and its funny but it gets annoying after you have a minority of arselickers just joining in :wtf:

[●S.K.Y●]

Okay yeah piss annoying, spam a little bit and its funny but it gets annoying after you have a minority of arselickers just joining in :wtf:


I agree with you , but if thinking on another side spamming people are like entertainer of the forum , no arselickers no fun.:P:P:P