The heroine

[Machinamar]

As you all know, a female protagonist has been confirmed, but almost nothing has been said about her. Any ideas?

Before I knew that she would be a) parallel to the King, and b) his childhood friend, I always envisioned that she would be the exact opposite of him -- white-haired, dark skin, gentle eyes, but fighting on the side of the soldiers that constantly attack the King, so she would be clad in that medieval armor. I even tried drawing her!

But, now that we know a + b, none of those things could be true. Unless, of course, she turns traitor and fights on the other side. OR, wouldn't it be tragic if the entire city turned against the King? That probably wouldn't happen, but then again, you're talking to a person who thinks the crystal will ultimately be the villain in the story. The female protagonist, though, must be one tough girl in order to have put up with the King's constant killing throughout his life -- and THAT is precisely what I'm afraid of. We already have little miss Cloudina (okay, LIGHTNING) over here that thinks she's so amazing in FFXIII. We don't need another character like that -- or, at least, I hope not, because I'll go absolutely insane. (She's one of the three reasons why I hate FFXIII already.)

In any case, sorry for the long post, but let's discuss!

[Desi]

white-haired, dark skin, gentle eyes, but fighting on the side of the soldiers that constantly attack the King, so she would be clad in that medieval armor. I even tried drawing her!

The female protagonist, though, must be one tough girl in order to have put up with the King's constant killing throughout his life -- and THAT is precisely what I'm afraid of.

In any case, sorry for the long post, but let's discuss!
So let me get this straight. You want her to be a black person with white hair and a total low self-esteem whore because Lightning has to much self-confidence?


Only neat thing you said was having the kingdom turn on the main character. Kind of like Suikoden one and two.

[SakuraAngel]

Well, i think that the heroine should be a bright and optimistic character, but also someone who's brave and loyal ^_^ I've tried to imagine her...i came up with the fair hair idea too..but one of the ideas that most appealed to me was if the character had darkish hair, but bright, beautiful eyes.:wub: *having a fangirl melt-down XD* Do you think there's a possibility of romance in it? *dodges tomatoes being pelted her way* I mean, there has been in most other FF's, right?:D

[Machinamar]

So let me get this straight. You want her to be a black person with white hair and a total low self-esteem whore because Lightning has to much self-confidence?

Not exactly. First of all, yes, dark skin and light hair. What's wrong with that? Second of all, I didn't say TOTAL LOW SELF-ESTEEM. I'm saying that I'm afraid she'll be in the same category as Lightning, who thinks she's a bad*** (give me break, I'm new and don't want to violate anything).

[Desi]

Not exactly. First of all, yes, dark skin and light hair. What's wrong with that?
Well, I'm not a fan of the Black skin White hair catorgory. It just makes them seem so fake. Those characters usually end up misplaced because they also are the only ones in the game(or if they are lucky their is another!). If you want fair hair it can always be a more natural color(black, brown, even a red).

Second of all, I didn't say TOTAL LOW SELF-ESTEEM. I'm saying that I'm afraid she'll be in the same category as Lightning
So you want the same type of female leads we had for the past 12 games? I mean XII just tried to break out of that by making them more strong willed but I don't see how this girl can't be a total monster with altitude. Actually I would love that, we need a real bitch on our side. Would make the game more interesting.

[Enedok]

We allready got that black girl white hair!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Fran.jpg/445px-Fran.jpg
OK, shes semiblack and have rabbit ears, but you got to admit its spot on.:crazy:

[Desi]

We allready got that black girl white hair!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Fran.jpg/445px-Fran.jpg
OK, shes semiblack and have rabbit ears, but you got to admit its spot on.:crazy:
I'd hit it. Hit it like any guy will hit a 200 year old rabbit.

[SakuraAngel]

We allready got that black girl white hair!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Fran.jpg/445px-Fran.jpg
OK, shes semiblack and have rabbit ears, but you got to admit its spot on.:crazy:

zomg...is that the heroine...?:ohmy: *doesn't know whether to be happy or disappointed*

[Desi]

zomg...is that the heroine...?:ohmy: *doesn't know whether to be happy or disappointed*
No that is my Videogame girlfriend, Fran from FFXII.

GHenrik knows what FF needs! We need Kushan's!

[S-r-ex]

you'd better be feeling dissapointed. that's a character from XII and I doubt there will be any viera in any XIII game

[SakuraAngel]

No that is my Videogame girlfriend, Fran from FFXII.

GHenrik knows what FF needs! We need Kushan's!

FFXII, huh?:ohmy: ...*still too busy trying to complete FFVII: DOC* hehe...Oops...i really need to catch up with you guys...XD;)

[Anima]

Well, i think that the heroine should be a bright and optimistic character, but also someone who's brave and loyal ^_^ I've tried to imagine her...i came up with the fair hair idea too..but one of the ideas that most appealed to me was if the character had darkish hair, but bright, beautiful eyes.:wub: *having a fangirl melt-down XD* Do you think there's a possibility of romance in it? *dodges tomatoes being pelted her way* I mean, there has been in most other FF's, right?:D


Sry had to quote this...but umm didn't Tetsuya Nomura already confirm that there would be no love story in this game? I'm going to wait till I see a screenshot of her before I judge her...come on Square give us updates *shakes fist* <.<

[Tifa Lockhart]

Before I knew that she would be a) parallel to the King, and b) his childhood friend, I always envisioned that she would be the exact opposite of him -- white-haired, dark skin, gentle eyes, but fighting on the side of the soldiers that constantly attack the King, so she would be clad in that medieval armor. I even tried drawing her!

But, now that we know a + b, none of those things could be true. Unless, of course, she turns traitor and fights on the other side. OR, wouldn't it be tragic if the entire city turned against the King? That probably wouldn't happen, but then again, you're talking to a person who thinks the crystal will ultimately be the villain in the story. The female protagonist, though, must be one tough girl in order to have put up with the King's constant killing throughout his life -- and THAT is precisely what I'm afraid of. We already have little miss Cloudina (okay, LIGHTNING) over here that thinks she's so amazing in FFXIII. We don't need another character like that -- or, at least, I hope not, because I'll go absolutely insane. (She's one of the three reasons why I hate FFXIII already.)

In any case, sorry for the long post, but let's discuss!


When Tetsuya Nomura says that the female will be parellel with the versus guy, it doesn't mean that she will be on his side. You can be parellel with someone while growing up, parellel in interests, and then still be parellel in interests down the road and still be on opposite sides. Someone can be parellel to someone in many different ways.

I think she's going to have a childhood with the versus guy, but then be on opposite sides. Also, they say that there won't be any romance in Final Fantasy Versus XIII, but it could still have a reference that they love each other, but they can't be together because they're on opposite sides of this war. If my theory is correct, then they could still be in love with each other, but there won't be any romantic scenes. Kinda sad really. They love each other but can't be together. That would be interesting. Then maybe one of them has no choice but to kill the other one at the end of the game. They did say that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is going to be very sad as well. This wouldn't be the first time a main character dies. Hence, Aerith in Final Fantasy VII.

This is just my theory. I think it would be very interesting.

What are your opinions?

[Desi]

They love each other but can't be together. That would be interesting. Then maybe one of them has no choice but to kill the other one at the end of the game. They did say that Final Fantasy Versus XIII is going to be very sad as well. This wouldn't be the first time a main character dies. Hence, Aerith in Final Fantasy VII.

This is just my theory. I think it would be very interesting.

What are your opinions?
Not being able to love eachother is just to corny.

I'm more interested in playing both sides of the fence and seeing what provokes them to break the treaty. Have me kill my own soldiers by playing the "enemy". Make all my work be a lie and have me die for a false cause.

[Enedok]

Not being able to love eachother is just to corny.
Desi thinks Romeo and Juliet is corny:crazy:

[Desi]

You didn't see my other comment!? FF needs Kushan's!

[squishy_foo]

Argh.. I hope there isn't any romance in this game.

Don't get me wrong, I ADORE romance in games and such.
Like in FFX/ FFX-2. =)

I just don't want it in THIS game because I want him to myself. =)
Yes, I'm a selfish little whore.

He's too hott for anyone. :(

[Mad_Hatter]

I'm so curious about this girl >< .

I think she is going to be a cheerful girl with a very innocent look. I meant... completely opposite to the main character (the King). Actually I was thinking about "Rinoa" in FF VIII because the male character is somehow similar to Squall , I would say, though Squall seems to be friendlier than the versus King ^^.

Uhm... about her background... I hope she's a spy from the enemy and will be captured (alive) by his guards or something like that. I don't think she's going to be a princess or anything with that high status. A normal girl would be just fine ^^ and...err.. good at fighting/shooting or martial arts. I don't want her to be a useless girl like "Rinoa" (I hate Rinoa)

I wonder if there is any Love in this game. I hope so 'cuz all of the FF games I have been playing so far... there's always romance in the plot.

(Wonder how the versus King is going to kiss the girl ^^)

*talking to myself*
Please God... please let them have some romantic scenes like in FFX ...please have some kissing scenes @__@

*edited: I just read all of your comments. Arg!!! NO LOVE at all???? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! I'm trying my best to get enough money to buy the PS3 so I can play this game!!! I'm a huge fan of romance!!!

That cannot be!!! Anyway, eventhough it's supposed a tragic. I hope there is ABSOLUTELY NO OPEN ENDING (or maybe lots of different endings for different levels is fine with me)!!! I hate the type of ending when they leave the rest to your imagination.

I don't want him to be dead at the end. What's the point if he's dead anyway? Who's gonna protect the crystal from OTHER enemies?

p/s: why are lots of games/novels/comics I consider to be FANTASTIC tragedies?????

[UltimaMasamune]

He is too badass to be in love with somebody



I think that their relationship will be like Solid Snake and Meryl in MGS1

[balthierxashe]

He is too badass to be in love with somebody



I think that their relationship will be like Solid Snake and Meryl in MGS1

Too badass to be in love with someone? I don't think that's realistic though...I'm not saying do a full blown romance because I do think that wouldn't fit the game very well, but 'badass' people have the same emotions as everyone else. More often than not, they just happen to be better at hiding them, or attempting to suppress them.

I think it would be cool if he tried to suppress romantic feelings, and then she dies, and he realizes how he actually felt. I'm a sucker for tragedies, lol-especially romantic tragedies. I would like to see romantic scenes...but I don't see how it could fit into this story, so I say go with the "I'm trying to be badass and strong and so I don't feel anything, despite the fact that I'm human. And OH shit, blah blah just died. I'm heartbroken. Now I'm angry. The end." lol...obviously not quite like that, XD

[Misschoco]

I just don't want it in THIS game because I want him to myself. =)
Yes, I'm a selfish little whore.

He's too hott for anyone. :(
mine mine mine his *HOT* and is mine

but we can share lol

and about the female character being parallel when i looked it up in the dictionary it generally means-2 things/people sharing similar interests and traits

[squishy_foo]

He is too badass to be in love with somebody



I think that their relationship will be like Solid Snake and Meryl in MGS1


How was that relationship like?




Haha, okay we can share him. =)

[UltimaMasamune]

How was that relationship like?


Snake didn't show any emotion towards Meryl and he didn't give a rat's ass about her until the end of the game when she was kidnapped and even then he didn't cry or any of that crap

[Desi]

Snake didn't show any emotion towards Meryl and he didn't give a rat's ass about her until the end of the game when she was kidnapped and even then he didn't cry or any of that crap
Like Squall and Rinoa( didn't care till she went in a coma). Or Cloud and all his chicks.

[Misschoco]

^so everyones assuming versus guy is gona be the same???

i kinda doubt that

[Mad_Hatter]

^so everyones assuming versus guy is gona be the same???
Well... he seems to be colder than both Squall and Cloud. He looks at his dead comrades ( I assuem those...people lying around the stairs are his ...err...guards or whatever they are) without any uhm...expression.

Although when he turns to look at those medieval soldiers, there's a slight change in his expression but that shows he's annoyed.

[Misschoco]

Well... he seems to be colder than both Squall and Cloud. He looks at his dead comrades ( I assuem those...people lying around the stairs are his ...err...guards or whatever they are) without any uhm...expression.

Although when he turns to look at those medieval soldiers, there's a slight change in his expression but that shows he's annoyed.
lets not jump to conclusions.it may look like he gives a cold expression but this could be neutral or just normal. we'll see his personality shine through soon

[Pixel]

Would it be so bad if in the beggining he didn't care? I would kinda like to see a cold person who is not super enthusiastic for once unlike Tidus and Vaan......*Gags*

[Misschoco]

i dont mine the super enthusiast but sometimes its good to lay of it

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Well... he seems to be colder than both Squall and Cloud. He looks at his dead comrades ( I assuem those...people lying around the stairs are his ...err...guards or whatever they are) without any uhm...expression.

Although when he turns to look at those medieval soldiers, there's a slight change in his expression but that shows he's annoyed.

I kinda agree that this Versus guy is going to be pretty cold (maybe like Vincent?) but I (ironically) like the fact that he's not the "happy" or "open" kind ^_^

Makes him look more sexy lol

[Misschoco]

I kinda agree that this Versus guy is going to be pretty cold (maybe like Vincent?) but I (ironically) like the fact that he's not the "happy" or "open" kind ^_^

Makes him look more sexy lol
it kinda annoys me when people say his gona be a cold guy ;) we can kinda analyse his emotions from the trailer.
I would say he definitely has a neutral face throughout which expresses no emotion as it is neutral so he cant express coldness.....toward the end he expresses determination by the way his eyebrows slant and telling from how his face is pulled


but i agree that he does look sexy :wub:

[Terros]

I think the versus guy (Storm??) is cold because he's emotionally hurt. I think the heroine will be hurt by something to, though she may not manifest it the way he does. I picture of the female character as someone who is hurt but still retains a happy appearence on the outside. Well that's what I think. Nomura said that the characters were struggling with the pain of their responsibilities or something like that...

[Misschoco]

I think the versus guy (Storm??) is cold because he's emotionally hurt. I think the heroine will be hurt by something to, though she may not manifest it the way he does. I picture of the female character as someone who is hurt but still retains a happy appearence on the outside. Well that's what I think. Nomura said that the characters were struggling with the pain of their responsibilities or something like that...
*storm* didnt show emotionally hurt but showed the expressions i described in my above post-from my point of view anyways

wouldnt the heroine be like tifa then??? i wouldnt mind that but i'd prefer if she was emotionally hurt forgot about it completely and be a very strong-minded and determined character

[Terros]

What I mean is like how Squall acted anti-social...*Storm* might be similar, in that because he's hurt in some way he doesn't show his feelings. Too soon to tell though.

I think the heroine will be strong minded, but also struggle with her own problems...I'm not sure how to put it....

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

What I mean is like how Squall acted anti-social...*Storm* might be similar, in that because he's hurt in some way he doesn't show his feelings. Too soon to tell though.

I think the heroine will be strong minded, but also struggle with her own problems...I'm not sure how to put it....

I kinda think (cough Storm since ya'll are calling him that cough) looks pretty innocent with his big eyes, I mean he didn't squint or something like that

[Terros]

Personally, I don't think he'll be necessarily cold, people often have a way of changing on and off the battlefield.

[Misschoco]

I kinda think (cough Storm since ya'll are calling him that cough) looks pretty innocent with his big eyes, I mean he didn't squint or something like that

yes :w00t: by him not squinting that means his emotions were netrual which proves my point


but we're meant to be talking about the heroine;) ....................

[Terros]

Hard to talk about some we haven't seen, think she's that lady in the logo?

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I don't care, talking about the Versus dude is better :nod:

[Terros]

Yes but that's not the topic......whatever we might as well talk about him, since there really isn't much to say about the heroine...

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yes but that's not the topic......whatever we might as well talk about him, since there really isn't much to say about the heroine...

Who's the heroine? ...Don't look at me like that! They started talking about the Versus person before I even started posting in this thread! XD

[Terros]

We don't know yet, one theory is that she's the girl in the versus logo...but know one knows as of yet.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

We don't know yet, one theory is that she's the girl in the versus logo...but know one knows as of yet.

...I wish they would at least give us their names so we don't have to be like "this guy" or "that girl" when referring to the characters :'(

[Terros]

True, true, but for now peeps are just calling the him Storm.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

True, true, but for now peeps are just calling the him Storm.

Yay! GO STORM!! lol How did we get stuck with that name anyways?

[Terros]

It's the rumored name, and that's what I kept calling him in my posts and somewhere along the line it stuck.

[Misschoco]

Yay! GO STORM!! lol How did we get stuck with that name anyways?

finalfantasy13.org somewhere there it says his name is rumored to be storm

im praying that the heroine is ass kicking and not helpless i.e lucrecia and im sure you can think of the other helpless ff female characters

[Terros]

*glares at Rinoa* All to well I can, I think she may be very gentle, but not can manage on her own, without being kidnapped every five minutes! *glares at Rinoa again*

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

finalfantasy13.org somewhere there it says his name is rumored to be storm

im praying that the heroine is ass kicking and not helpless i.e lucrecia and im sure you can think of the other helpless ff female characters

Well, if she's ass-kickin' then Storm wouldn't have any reason to protect her :nag: What's a game with no romance?!

Yes, she could be gentle, but maybe equipped with that awesome telekinetic power that Storm has :nod:

[Misschoco]

*glares at Rinoa* All to well I can, I think she may be very gentle, but not can manage on her own, without being kidnapped every five minutes! *glares at Rinoa again*
*joins terros in glaring* Rinoa was ffin helpless

Well, if she's ass-kickin' then Storm wouldn't have any reason to protect her :nag: What's a game with no romance?!

you dont need a girl to be helpless to have romance,i'd hate it if storm had to protect her all the time *glares at rinoa*

[Desi]

Well, if she's ass-kickin' then Storm wouldn't have any reason to protect her :nag: What's a game with no romance?!


a game instead of a poorly written weekday soap opera? I'm just saying.

[Misschoco]

may i please stress............

The herione friggin better not be like Rinoa :nag:

anyone agree?

[Desi]

i agree with that. Rinoa just wasn't prepared for nothing she "set" her mind too.

[Misschoco]

i agree with that. Rinoa just wasn't prepared for nothing she "set" her mind too.

'set' her mind to it and was just that wee bit optimistic

squall had to rescue her cause she couldnt save her own ass ;)

[Terros]

Well, if she's ass-kickin' then Storm wouldn't have any reason to protect her :nag: What's a game with no romance?!

Yes, she could be gentle, but maybe equipped with that awesome telekinetic power that Storm has :nod:
Well...I don't believe Yuna was helpless...or Tifa, or even Aerith and they rocked!

What I'm saying is, depending on her character she may be captured but she'll atleast try to do something on her own before Storm has to come and rescue her. I want her to be your NON-traditonal "damsel in distress". If at some point she must play a kind of role.

[Pixel]

Maybe they have not showed the heroine yet because she is better than Storm? Maybe storm will have to get saved by the chick.

And maybe he looks pissed because he lost to her.:D

[Lucrecia]

Maybe they have not showed the heroine yet because she is better than Storm? Maybe storm will have to get saved by the chick.

And maybe he looks pissed because he lost to her.:D

...maybe...

[Terros]

That is possible, maybe she saved him once, and now he feels he owes her...

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Argh, not to be sexist of my own gender, but I'm sticking with the guy-is-stronger theory :D

[Pixel]

You never know, they have never made a FF game with a chick who saves the dude and maybe throughout the whole game Storm will always be trying to best her in everything.

[Terros]

That's true...I don't think he'll try to best her in everything, just pay his debt.

[Misschoco]

Maybe they have not showed the heroine yet because she is better than Storm? Maybe storm will have to get saved by the chick.

And maybe he looks pissed because he lost to her.:D
now i like that idea

and like terros said please no damsel in distresses e.g meg from Disney's Hercules(even though that has nothing to do with ff)

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

That's true...I don't think he'll try to best her in everything, just pay his debt.

Oh wait, so then he'll actually look up at someone instead of acting cocky-ish all through the game :ohmy:

[Misschoco]

Oh wait, so then he'll actually look up at someone instead of acting cocky-ish all through the game :ohmy:

we dont even know yet what his personality is.......

........so we cant even call him cocky-ish yet

[Desi]

we dont even know yet what his personality is.......

........so we cant even call him cocky-ish yet
You need to stop lying to yourself. He must be cocky if the developers wants to be unique in a game character sort of way.

[Terros]

Can't he be unique without being cocky?

[Desi]

Can't he be unique without being cocky?
He can be a scared puss or pessimist. That is unique.

[Terros]

Ouch. ^^;

[Desi]

i am a pessimist so it is not all that bad.

[Terros]

lol! :D

[Terros]

I have a theory regarding the heroine. This was originally posted in the "What are the Crystals?" topic.

Theory:
Let's suppose that the crystal has a conciousness. It may have the abilty to create a humanoid being as an "extension" of itself into the world. What I am saying is that the heroine could be a manifestation of the crystal in humanoid form. So while the King protects the "object" crystal. The being created from the crystal could be wandering around elsewhere, who knows, she may not even know she's the crystal...it's hard to explain. Going to what Desi said the King could know this and himself be searching for this girl, but as you see he kinda has his hands full keeping those guys away from the "object" crystal.

[Terros]

I'll try to elaborate more if I can.

[Desi]

This was pretty much my way of looking at it. He might not have known as it could have happened before his time, he may know and that is why he protects her, or since there were other crystals she could be from one of them. Those are just some examples. They isn't so far-fetched since this is directly from FFXI.

A little simpler and a lot less reading.

I'll try to elaborate more if I can. You may just want to edit next time.

[Pixel]

now i like that idea

and like terros said please no damsel in distresses e.g meg from Disney's Hercules(even though that has nothing to do with ff)

YES! Damsel's in distress suck. I think that saving someone once should be the limit, maybe twice if they are like 30 hours apart. The only time it did not get boring doing that was in RE4.

[Terros]

And if you have to save her, she should atleast try to escape on her own first, or fight till there's no way she can win.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

And if you have to save her, she should atleast try to escape on her own first, or fight till there's no way she can win.

Maybe she could be fighting those kidnappers off (the telekinetic power thing I mention a while back) but maybe one of the people who was suppose to protect her is a backstabber and that caught her off-guard, so yeah :P

[Pixel]

Maybe she could be fighting those kidnappers off (the telekinetic power thing I mention a while back) but maybe one of the people who was suppose to protect her is a backstabber and that caught her off-guard, so yeah :P

Made me think of something. It would be awesome in a stealth game if you could use Telekinetic powers like Storm and hurl daggers in peoples backs to kill without being seen. You never know though, maybe you could do that on Versus.....not the stealth part though....

Anyway, back to the Heroine...

[Desi]

Made me think of something. It would be awesome in a stealth game if you could use Telekinetic powers like Storm and hurl daggers in peoples backs to kill without being seen.
Second Sight? Psi-ops? Well Psi-ops is more of a mix and mainly action but yeah. If you had telekinetic powers why would you use daggers? You could snap their neck with your mind. See Galerians.

[Terros]

Back to the heroine, I think she might have powers similar to Storm.

[Misschoco]

Theory:
Let's suppose that the crystal has a conciousness. It may have the abilty to create a humanoid being as an "extension" of itself into the world. What I am saying is that the heroine could be a manifestation of the crystal in humanoid form. So while the King protects the "object" crystal. The being created from the crystal could be wandering around elsewhere, who knows, she may not even know she's the crystal...it's hard to explain. Going to what Desi said the King could know this and himself be searching for this girl, but as you see he kinda has his hands full keeping those guys away from the "object" crystal.
okay thats a god theory,but why would the crystal necessarily create a manifestation of itself. but its still a good theory


Made me think of something. It would be awesome in a stealth game if you could use Telekinetic powers like Storm and hurl daggers in peoples backs to kill without being seen. You never know though, maybe you could do that on Versus.....not the stealth part though....

Anyway, back to the Heroine...

now thats friggin cool :w00t:

i think its finalized

no bloody damsel in distresses :nag: *stares at rinoa*

[Terros]

okay thats a god theory,but why would the crystal necessarily create a manifestation of itself. but its still a good theory


Suppose, there is something the crystal can't do in it's original form, suppose there is something it wants, some it has to do, that requires it to take on a human-like form. Or perhaps, taking on a human form will allow it to better interact with the rest of the world, like interact with Storm...perhaps?

[Desi]

okay thats a god theory,but why would the crystal necessarily create a manifestation of itself. but its still a good theory

The crystal creates a more physical form to protect itself. It is selfish like that.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

The crystal creates a more physical form to protect itself. It is selfish like that.

If the crystal decides to create a physical form to protect itself, why create a girl? :blink:

[Desi]

If the crystal decides to create a physical form to protect itself, why create a girl? :blink:
Because it wanted too? Found it better to express emotion and get things done for it?

[Pixel]

Second Sight? Psi-ops? Well Psi-ops is more of a mix and mainly action but yeah. If you had telekinetic powers why would you use daggers? You could snap their neck with your mind. See Galerians.

Cause daggers are cooler.:w00t:

About the Current Theory: About the Crystal Manifestation thing: What if the heroine AND storm are protectors of the crystal and they both are supposed to protect it and are both manifestations of it.

Maybe that is why storm has all his awesome abilities and the Crystal-Fuel sword?

So, when they reveal the heroine and when you meet her in the game, she too would have kick-ass powers and have some sort of cool, Crystal-Fueled weapon.

Then they could team up and do some serious damage.....

[Desi]

Cause daggers are cooler.:w00t:


Nah I'm pretty positive that walking through a hallway blowing off the heads of your once enemies as they cower in a corner saying "Someone please help me!" takes the cake.

[Terros]

Cause daggers are cooler.:w00t:

About the Current Theory: About the Crystal Manifestation thing: What if the heroine AND storm are protectors of the crystal and they both are supposed to protect it and are both manifestations of it.

Maybe that is why storm has all his awesome abilities and the Crystal-Fuel sword?

So, when they reveal the heroine and when you meet her in the game, she too would have kick-ass powers and have some sort of cool, Crystal-Fueled weapon.

Then they could team up and do some serious damage..... True, but something tells me Storm is more "infused" with the crystals power than a manifestation of it. Going back in this topic a little further, I believe to better interact with the world the crystal will take on a human form.

For example:
The crystal is locked up in that pillar, and lets say that it has a concious, is it not possible that the crystal may feel lonely. Thus it takes on a human form to tell how it feels and explore the world it never gets to see.

[Misschoco]

The crystal creates a more physical form to protect itself. It is selfish like that.

but if it created someone to protect then that goes against the whole game....

.....what would be the point of storm protecting it then ;)

[Pixel]

Nah I'm pretty positive that walking through a hallway blowing off the heads of your once enemies as they cower in a corner saying "Someone please help me!" takes the cake.

Fine, we will just say you can do both in the same game.:nod:

To Terros: Okay then, what if when Storm and the heroine were created from the crystal, parts of it were taken with them, thus how they are more infused....

So if one of them died, part of the crystal would die. And that explains how they can constantly fuel their Crystal Weapons and how they have the sweet powers.:D

[Desi]

but if it created someone to protect then that goes against the whole game....

.....what would be the point of storm protecting it then ;)
It gets weaker the farther it is from the crystal, he is more of a failsafe to fall back on, the human crystal can still be defeated leaving the object vulnerable. It probably just wants to make sure.

[Terros]

That's what I was kinda thinking to, Desi, but I don't think protecting itself would be the main reason for it taking on a human form. Perhaps one of the reasons, but not the main.

[Desi]

That's what I was kinda thinking to, Desi, but I don't think protecting itself would be the main reason for it taking on a human form. Perhaps one of the reasons, but not the main.
I know that in FFXI it created the Crystal Warriors to protect the itself and the planet(kind of) from its enemies. Awkwardly enough you, the player, counted as the enemy to the planet.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I know that in FFXI it created the Crystal Warriors to protect the itself and the planet(kind of) from its enemies. Awkwardly enough you, the player, counted as the enemy to the planet.

Sweet! You VS the entire world, wooo, sounds fun :rolleyes:
...301th post! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! :dance:

[Terros]

Well can't be sure till the game comes out.

[Misschoco]

That's what I was kinda thinking to, Desi, but I don't think protecting itself would be the main reason for it taking on a human form. Perhaps one of the reasons, but not the main.

i agree with you-why create a manifestation to protect itself when already the versus guy is bound to protect the crystals which his family have done for generations

[Desi]

i agree with you-why create a manifestation to protect itself when already the versus guy is bound to protect the crystals which his family have done for generations
Are you serious? He is the last of his family line. He doesn't have any kids(might even be sterile) and is fighting a war against thousands by himself. So far we only know he has one enemy but by midway through the game I can see more joining the fight. It isn't going to put the hope of its whole existence on one boy. I would be led to believe it has better sense than that.

[Terros]

I believe it will try to protect itself, but I don't think that was it's original intention when it game into the human world.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I believe it will try to protect itself, but I don't think that was it's original intention when it game into the human world.

I agree but if its original intension IS to make a human connected to itself, it's probably for communicating with the world instead of pure protecting, because that's Storm's job ^^

[Misschoco]

Are you serious? He is the last of his family line. He doesn't have any kids(might even be sterile) and is fighting a war against thousands by himself. So far we only know he has one enemy but by midway through the game I can see more joining the fight. It isn't going to put the hope of its whole existence on one boy. I would be led to believe it has better sense than that.

i also never expected this to be a single handed fight

[Terros]

No one is saying Storm will fight alone, what I am saying in that the manifestation of the crystal may not have originally intended to fight but will have to out of necessity.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Ooo, maybe more people from other countries would join in the cause! It's like Fire Emblem!! :D

[Desi]

I see it as the opposite but not without a lot of backstabbing first. He'll have to manipulate his current "partners" to stay alive and the top world power.

[Misschoco]

Ooo, maybe more people from other countries would join in the cause! It's like Fire Emblem!! :D

but thats the problem......theres only one modernized country which is his kingdom.....and everything outside of that is against him ;)

[Terros]

I have a weird incling that there may be trouble brewing within his kingdom as well.

[Desi]

He is a young leader, I can see political officials wanting him overthrown. Even normal citizens if this war goes out of hand. They would see him as being the reason they keep getting attacked and are no longer safe. Politicians are a must.

[Lifrasthir]

He is a young leader, I can see political officials wanting him overthrown. Even normal citizens if this war goes out of hand. They would see him as being the reason they keep getting attacked and are no longer safe. Politicians are a must.

That does seem possible...but then where would the heronie fall into place?

[Pixel]

That does seem possible...but then where would the heronie fall into place?

Maybe the heroine would be a citizen who hates him at first but them sees the truth behind the curtain of lies the politicians have weaved in front of the citizens eyes and then joins up with him for his cause.....

[Lifrasthir]

Maybe the heroine would be a citizen who hates him at first but them sees the truth behind the curtain of lies the politicians have weaved in front of the citizens eyes and then joins up with him for his cause.....

Even if that scenario was true, by the sounds of it, she wouldn't be the main character then. She'd be more supporting.

[Terros]

Or you could link parts of that theory with her being in somewhat part of the crystal. What I mean is, we know that the bad guys want the crystal for whatever reason, we know that Storm doesn't want them to have the crystal, but had anyone considered what it is the crystal wants? Going back to the idea of the heroine being the manifestation of the crystal there must be something about the world that would cause the crystal to create a human form.

[Lifrasthir]

Or you could link parts of that theory with her being in somewhat part of the crystal. What I mean is, we know that the bad guys want the crystal for whatever reason, we know that Storm doesn't want them to have the crystal, but had anyone considered what it is the crystal wants? Going back to the idea of the heroine being the manifestation of the crystal there must be something about the world that would cause the crystal to create a human form.

Hm...that's very possible. But how would the Crystal accomplish such a thing as actually creating a human being? I understand the part about something in the world that would cause the crystal to create a human form but that's just the explanation of why, not how...Perhaps Square will release more info on this.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Square often make confusing stories, like if you tried to explain the story of one FF game to another who has never play it before, it would be really hard

[Terros]

Hm...that's very possible. But how would the Crystal accomplish such a thing as actually creating a human being? I understand the part about something in the world that would cause the crystal to create a human form but that's just the explanation of why, not how...Perhaps Square will release more info on this. Creating life may be one of the crystals abilities, crystal typically have a range of various powers yes?

[Desi]

Yes, creating life isn't out of their reach.

[Terros]

Exactly.

[Lifrasthir]

Okay, that does make sense.

[Desi]

Okay, that does make sense.
yeah read back to my FFXI posts about everything coming from the crystal.

[Lifrasthir]

I'll search for it once I get back on.

[Terros]

So now if she is indeed a creation of the crystal we come back to the question of what is her purpose, her raison d'etre (reason for being).

[mochaccino]

SINCE WHEN DO WE KNOW THERE IS A FEMALE PROTAGONIST?

Seriously, I didn't know. : D Is there an article stating that?

[Terros]

Nomura said that a female heroine would accompany the king.

[Firewolf]

when???

[Hitoshura]

Wikipedia states it. (too lazy to find a link)

research FTW

[Firewolf]

FTW????

[Terros]

There's a site that says it too some where but can't remember it.

[Firewolf]

too bad we dont have a image of her at least espically the guy with the white hood

[Terros]

Like I said we might not get one till E3 at the earliest!

[Misschoco]

SINCE WHEN DO WE KNOW THERE IS A FEMALE PROTAGONIST?

Seriously, I didn't know. : D Is there an article stating that?

from wikipedia and an interview

Nomura has also confirmed that a heroine, parallel to the protagonist, will be present in the game.[1]

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Wikipedia? Ooo, gotta love that place :lol:

[Misschoco]

Wikipedia? Ooo, gotta love that place :lol:

bless you wikipedia-if only they knew everything though i.e ffvxiii release date

[Lucrecia]

I love wikipedia! Must go get new info from Wikipedia on Final Fantasy and the heirone.:P

[Misschoco]

and the heirone.:P
if only the info was there :'(

i cannot stress enough that i DO NOT want another RINOA :nag: :nag:

[mochaccino]

I think I'd want like... an Ashe/Yuna. A nice girl who can kick ass.

[Lucrecia]

if only the info was there :'(

i cannot stress enough that i DO NOT want another RINOA :nag: :nag:

I know. If they have another Rinoa then...they better be ready to see protesting outside thier doors. I hope the heirone can fight really good and actually fight for herself, not having the Versus guy coming saving her every second of the game.

[Misschoco]

I hope the heirone can fight really good and actually fight for herself, not having the Versus guy coming saving her every second of the game.
she should be some mind of Chinese martial arts expert.if versus guy has to save her everyminute.then im ready to kill myself :nag:

I think I'd want like... an Ashe/Yuna. A nice girl who can kick ass.
im for ashe.not so sure about yuna kicking ass

[Kätharina]

Keep these coming im getting ideas for the heroin in my story XDDDD
Lol.

Im just going to sit it out, once a image of the heroin surfaces then i shall judge.

[Misschoco]

Keep these coming im getting ideas for the heroin in my story XDDDD
Lol.

Im just going to sit it out, once a image of the heroin surfaces then i shall judge.

errrr Rinoa sucks ashe rules

heroine should kick butt and have black/blue/combination hair and 2 gun blades for once on a female character would be good

no squalls in game

[Lucrecia]

Well don't kill yourself. I do undertand what your saying, though. I wonder...what would you do if the heirone looked like Rinoa, but could fight for herself. Although, I heard that the heirone is supposed to be like a manly Cloud.

And yeah. I'd have to go for Ashe and not for Yuna. Yuna was a little annoying. Plus Ashe is like my name!:P

[Misschoco]

Although, I heard that the heirone is supposed to be like a manly Cloud.


thats what lightning supposed to be like

no no no no no no ffin rinoas :nag: :nag: :nag:

[Kätharina]

How about...

A character that was nothing like any of them.....:rolleyes:

[Lucrecia]

thats what lightning supposed to be like

no no no no no no ffin rinoas :nag: :nag: :nag:

Oh okay. I read an interview wrong and assumed the one question was for Versus. Whoops.:rolleyes: And I just want to see your reaction to this.






















































:nag: RINOA!!!!!!!!!:nag:

[Misschoco]

:nag: RINOA!!!!!!!!!:nag: [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/I]


:nag: :nag: :nag: :nag: :nag: :nag: she better not be like her or i swear i'll bomb square Hq


whose with me???

[Lucrecia]

:nag: :nag: :nag: :nag: :nag: :nag: she better not be like her or i swear i'll bomb square Hq


whose with me???

I'm with you!!!!:nag:

[Kätharina]

Chicken soup :rolleyes:

[Lucrecia]

Chicken soup :rolleyes:

:huh: Chicken soup?

[Kätharina]

I was just trying to avoid a Square Enix bombing.
Lol XDDD

[Misschoco]

I was just trying to avoid a Square Enix bombing.


me and lucrecia will prompt an attack if i see a slightest resemblance to rinoa in this heroine :nag:

[Lifrasthir]

We need to dress someone up as an important person that works for Square Enix so that when they have a meeting, they can get us all the information we want. :D

[Misschoco]

We need to dress someone up as an important person that works for Square Enix so that when they have a meeting, they can get us all the information we want. :D

yes and if they dont tell us then theres always the other option *points up*

[Lifrasthir]

WOOT! Yes there is. :D

[Lucrecia]

We need to dress someone up as an important person that works for Square Enix so that when they have a meeting, they can get us all the information we want. :D

I like that too. But then again I like the bombing idea. When the game comes out I will have a bomb next to me just to make sure everything is okay. And if we have to why don't we play the game with the creators and a bomb next to us just on the safe side???:rolleyes:

[Kätharina]

But if you bomb the HQ, your going to loose all the information you wanted and all the work they did on the game. :rolleyes:

[Lucrecia]

But if you bomb the HQ, your going to loose all the information you wanted and all the work they did on the game. :rolleyes:

That's a good point. But...when the game comes out then we can act. And then we can just steal all of the information and games and stuff before the bomb goes off.

[Yuu]

A person like Rinoa wouldn't fit in the game me thinks.

I really like the idea of somebody dressing up and going into Square's office and getting all info we want though :shifty:

[Terros]

I hope this eases tensions about the heroine, within recent years square has been wheelin' out strong women, you don't always have to rely on a man to save them every second. So I don't think we'll be seeing any Rinoa's for some time...if ever again.

[Lucrecia]

I hope this eases tensions about the heroine, within recent years square has been wheelin' out strong women, you don't always have to rely on a man to save them every second. So I don't think we'll be seeing any Rinoa's for some time...if ever again.

Good. But now they need to make Kairi in Kingdom Hearts just a little bit more a fighter.

[Kätharina]

Because women roles are becoming more independant, well im not saying they are not.
But they are alot more stronger than they where 20 years ago, seriously.
My mum and dad went to austrailia for 2 years and my mum wasn't aloud to buy a TV, thats how bad it was, my dad had to do it. =\

But i think it reflects Squares image aswell, not placing a strong woman role inside a game would affect female players, so they have to apply to each sex in a way, keep the buyers happy, preety much how it goes.

Having a strong male and female role appeals to everybody (hopefully, not unless your sexist like my P.E. TEACHER!#!"#??! :nag: and despise the other sex, well maybe not in games but yaknow)

So i think square has a obligation to make a more independant role, not a woman who demands to be saved every 3 seconds and cant hold a gun properly. (aka resident evil 4 "LEONNNNNNNNNNNNNN!" Stupid Ashley and her yelling.....<_<)

Hopefully the heroin will be kick ass ^_^

[Terros]

I think she will.

[Lucrecia]

She better be able to fight and like we've been saying NO RINOA!!!!!!!!

[Terros]

Who would want another Rinoa?

[Xelien_5.0]

I dont mind a strong independent women if she is like taht from the start, but if all of a sudden you make somone like Kairi(KH) a fighting machine I still dispise her. :P

I hope the heroin is bad ass, but after seeing teh main guy lead i know she wont over shine my favortisim i will have for him:D

[Terros]

I think she'll be tough, yet I kinda see her as having a personality more like that of Aerith.

[Lucrecia]

I think she'll be tough, yet I kinda see her as having a personality more like that of Aerith.

That's what i've been thinking of her as. Maybe with that kind-of personalitiy there will be a little romance after all in the game.

[Terros]

Exactly. I think she'll be able to hold her own in battle but be soft hearted like Aerith.

[Lucrecia]

Exactly. I think she'll be able to hold her own in battle but be soft hearted like Aerith.

Exactly my thoughts.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I don't like Aerith's character but I guess her personality isn't so bad :rolleyes:
SUPER TELEKINETIC POWERS, YO!!

[Lucrecia]

SUPER TELEKINETIC POWERS, YO!!

Where'd the yo come from???

[Terros]

I don't like Aerith's character but I guess her personality isn't so bad :rolleyes:
SUPER TELEKINETIC POWERS, YO!!

I think that personality would be a good fit for her.

[Desi]

I don't like Aerith's character but I guess her personality isn't so bad :rolleyes:


That is the same thing....you don't like the way she looks or something?

[Terros]

Anywho, I hope she won't be too much like Aerith but similar.

[Misschoco]

to me personally Aerith was an annoyance

im gona try and stop posing similarities of other female ff characters to this heroine

[Firewolf]

the heroine is most likely to be a enemy at the end of the game or sumthin

[Misschoco]

the heroine is most likely to be a enemy at the end of the game or sumthin

if we take into account the word parrellel........



im still reminiscing over the character shown in the new versus trailer(shown at square party)if you remember the fan art im pondering over the gender of that character

[Firewolf]

maybe the heroine is that person in the white cloak

[Lifrasthir]

maybe the heroine is that person in the white cloak

What person in a white cloak?

[Terros]

But then why would Nomura reffer to her as a heroine instead of a villianess? Remember we don't know how they are paralell, it could just be in personality and appearence.

[Firewolf]

What person in a white cloak?

the one from the extended final fantasy versus 13 trailer

[Lucrecia]

What person in a white cloak?

If you go check out the SE Party 2007 forum you'll see a drawing of what the person in the white cloak is kind-of like.

[Terros]

For now I'm sticking with the rumor that the heroing is possibly the woman in the versus logo...but that could have been the cloaked person, we can't know cause we didn't see the trailer.

[Terros]

See here: http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/image.php?image=media/artwork/versuslogo.jpg

[Firewolf]

shes sleeping and it looks like the crystal is near her so she should be related to it or sumthing make shes the evil hes really good just what hes doing is evil

[Terros]

I don't know....

[Firewolf]

well i was just getting a theroy

[Mad_Hatter]

The girl in the logo is also wearing a "white" (probably) cloak....
I think they haven't designed the heroine yet. That's why she's in a white cloak (if that's the heroine). (They said the same thing with Kingdom Hearts - FInal mix +)

[Lifrasthir]

Ah, that white cloak....It's completely understandable to think that she's against the crown "Storm" posses but like what Terros said, why would she be considered a heronie instead of a villaness...

[Desi]

The same way Dante isn't considered a villain in Devil May Cry 4. Just to give you a different prospective I presume.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

The girl in the logo is also wearing a "white" (probably) cloak....
I think they haven't designed the heroine yet. That's why she's in a white cloak (if that's the heroine). (They said the same thing with Kingdom Hearts - FInal mix +)

Maybe the heroine and the cloaked figure are from the same family, and they wear the white cloaks as a family emblem? Just a thought, really. And if the white cloak guy is againist Storm, then the heroine probably changed sides cause she's nice :rolleyes:

[Firewolf]

maybe the heroine is the enemy and has a duel with the main character and something happens they get trapped somewhere together fall in love then in the end they have to fight (too many anime do this type of thing)

[Misschoco]

I think they haven't designed the heroine yet. That's why she's in a white cloak (if that's the heroine). (They said the same thing with Kingdom Hearts - FInal mix +)
true...nomura even said before that the versus guys design wasnt finalized


anyway about this heroine being parrellel,this could be represented in her wearing white opposing to the black versus guy wears

any who i still dont like the heroines white if that is her

[Terros]

I don't like it either.

[Misschoco]

I don't like it either.

seriously if they were looking for a contrast in the 2 worlds and different characters in versus....to me personally i dont like that new characters design if she were to be the heroine..but since we dont really know what she looks like then i cant say any more

[Desi]

The secret character so far is only seen with a hooded robe. Now that may be the whole outfit but i seriously doubt, you all are overreacting.

[Misschoco]

you all are overreacting.
i guess we are slightly;) its just the hair...but it is only fanart

[Desi]

Would you like her hair to be held up with blue Elmer wood glue to make "wicked" unreal poses?

[Misschoco]

Would you like her hair to be held up with blue Elmer wood glue to make "wicked" unreal poses?
its not the style of the hair ;) its the colour

[Desi]

You don't like Blond hair?

[Misschoco]

You don't like Blond hair?
i didnt mean it like that :'(................

screw anything i said i dont even know if this characters a guy or girl yet ;)

[Lucrecia]

i didnt mean it like that :'(................

screw anything i said i dont even know if this characters a guy or girl yet ;)

We also don't know if it's the heirone.

And I'm a blonde too, so no insulting blondes!!!!:crazy: I know you weren't, just kidding.

[Misschoco]

And I'm a blonde too, so no insulting blondes!!!!:crazy: I know you weren't, just kidding.
lolz


i take anything back :'( noo blonde's a great hair colour just dont like it on this 'particular character' it looks more like white hair anyways :P

sorry if i did insult anyone

[Desi]

So far we only have a two pieces of badly drawn fanart(thanks for trying though) to go on. I don't think it is enough to warrant a dislike of hair color over.

[Lucrecia]

lolz


i take anything back :'( noo blonde's a great hair colour just dont like it on this 'particular character' it looks more like white hair anyways :P

sorry if i did insult anyone

No you didn't insult anyone.:P And this particular character would probably look better with white hair. However, this is just fanart and so we shouldn't assume anything just yet.

[Lifrasthir]

Has someone from Square formally announced that the person in the white cloak is in fact female?.....I know the person in the logo looks very feminine but is that a known fact?

[Lucrecia]

Has someone from Square formally announced that the person in the white cloak is in fact female?.....I know the person in the logo looks very feminine but is that a known fact?

No, not that I know of. But that might be an enemy instead of the heirone. I don't hink anyone has confirmed this person being the heirone...yet.

[Terros]

No, not that I know of. But that might be an enemy instead of the heirone. I don't hink anyone has confirmed this person being the heirone...yet.

Exactly it's too early to jump and say that she's the heronine.

[balthierxashe]

Ok...so we know that the heroine is a childhood friend of the King...so question, wouldn't some of the theories you guys came up with not fit with that? Such as her being part of the crystal? Unless somehow she was born that way when they were kids...I mean....well do you get my drift? Anyway, that just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. Also, the theory of her being someone who hates the main guy wouldn't make sense with the whole childhood thing unless they did something like...liked each other when they were younger but started hating him for whatever reason, and then likes him again...but that sounds stupid to me @.@';

As a reply to the idea that she bested him at some point I think it'd be funny if they had a Nala/Simba relationship, you know? Like when they were younger she always seemed to be better than him but as they grew up he got stronger and she started to see him as a man and not someone to beat up. She could still have a soft heart but she'd also be able to fight for herself, obviously. I don't think that a weak character like Aeris or Yuna etc would fit into this game (weak meaning physically). Why in God's name would she be needed to fight with the King? It would be ridiculous, and since things seem so dire, it would just be stupid. I really hope they don't do that...

I also hope she's not too peppy or whatever...cause then I'd hate her. And "Storm" would probably get annoyed by her. XD

I don't know why but when I look at most pics of "Storm" I think he just kind of looks like a lost little boy. He knows how to fight and knows his responsibilities but he just looks emotionally lost and maybe even lonely.

Also, even if you think he looks 'cold' while fighting (although I think he does look more neutral, as has been said before), you can't really count that as his personality. People change once they get into battle/fights because you have to. Any fights that I have been in I change and become pretty much all business, but generally I'm a happy-go-lucky, let's all get along, person. Obviously there's more to me than that, but hopefully you catch my drift. Therefore I could see how he could become all business but not necessarily be like that in 'real life.'

[Terros]

It's very well possible she could be a part of the crystal and have known Storm, we don't know yet if what Storm's exact relationship to the heroine is, and I don't think it was officially confirmed that the heroine and Storm ever knew each other previously, that I believe was another rumor/theory.

[Misschoco]

Ok...so we know that the heroine is a childhood friend of the King...so question, wouldn't some of the theories you guys came up with not fit with that? Such as her being part of the crystal? Unless somehow she was born that way when they were kids...I mean....well do you get my drift? Anyway, that just doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. Also, the theory of her being someone who hates the main guy wouldn't make sense with the whole childhood thing unless they did something like...liked each other when they were younger but started hating him for whatever reason, and then likes him again...but that sounds stupid to me @.@';

woah........we dont even know if their childhood friends or even if knew each other previously.Nomura only said of a female character and nothing more..i think this thing about being childhood friends was just a rumour which could be far fetched or totally true

I don't think that a weak character like Aeris or Yuna etc would fit into this game (weak meaning physically). Why in God's name would she be needed to fight with the King? It would be ridiculous, and since things seem so dire, it would just be stupid. I really hope they don't do that...
i agree with you here.placing a weak female lead would contrast too much with storms strong physique....and only place another burden on him

i just hope square doesnt have that in mind

I also hope she's not too peppy or whatever...cause then I'd hate her. And "Storm" would probably get annoyed by her. XD
yh just like how rinoa was :nag: peppy and happy in a sad game?:nag: its ruin the mood.i mean i dont want a depressed/sad female lead, but a character whos too peppy will never thicken the atmosphere

I don't know why but when I look at most pics of "Storm" I think he just kind of looks like a lost little boy. He knows how to fight and knows his responsibilities but he just looks emotionally lost and maybe even lonely.
i must agree with you.He does know what his doing and what his responsibilities are but......he seems a little lost

Also, even if you think he looks 'cold' while fighting (although I think he does look more neutral, as has been said before), you can't really count that as his personality.
alas thank you for that ^_^ he does look totally neutral.His face doesn't glitch to reveal sadness/depression

[Terros]

He looks lost and depressed, like one who has lost something dear to him. I think he tries to hide this though, to me, it looks like signs of depression show when he's sleeping in his chair.

[Desi]

He looks lost and depressed, like one who has lost something dear to him. I think he tries to hide this though, to me, it looks like signs of depression show when he's sleeping in his chair.

Lost and depress? Bored and uninterested. Chances are is he doesn't want the duty or the burden and has no interest in the affairs of politics. He wants to be a child but is forced to be an adult. His expressions show more unwillingness while in the throne chair and apathy when looking at his "comrades" on the steps. His "sleeping face" is called tired/zoned out. It happens when you sleep upright in a chair without your head falling back waking you up.

[Misschoco]

it looks like signs of depression show when he's sleeping in his chair.
i still dont agree with that...like desi said his tired/zoned out but not depressed i dont see what indicates depression on his face ;)

[Terros]

It was just a thought, but then there is no way to tell for sure, as we don't really know how he shows his feelings. I agree with Desi, I don't think he really wants the responsibility he's been given, this is without out doubt one of the sources of his pain.

[Misschoco]

It was just a thought, but then there is no way to tell for sure, as we don't really know how he shows his feelings.
thus his expression is neutral and soon after everyon says how his depressed/sad and fed up

btw:i wasnt directing this at you :P

[Terros]

Anywho lets get back to the heroine...what do you think she'll be like? Personallity wise? What kind of weapon will she use? What kind of powers/special abilities will she have? Her relationship to Storm, does she know him from before, or do they meet during the game?

[Pixel]

My Thoughts:


Weapon: Hope she will dual wield Ninja Blades....
Personality: She will most likely be the opposite of Storm, so she will most likely be happy and really cheerful.
Powers: Mage, or some kind of mind altering abilites (think of the Jedi)
How They Know Each Other: Know from before.These are by no means correct and most likely far off from everybody else's ideas.

[Terros]

Hmmm.....

I think:

Weapon: A chakram(s) (think Axel's weaon)
Personality: Kind, caring, cheerful but not in an annoying way, supportive.
Powers: Manipulation of crystal energy
Relationship: Meet during the game, but may be related to somone/thing from the past.

[Pixel]

Hmmm.....

I think:

Weapon: A chakram(s) (think Axel's weaon)

Chakram(s)....*shudders at the thought*

[Terros]

What's wrong with chakrams? She could be like Xena....ok that's scary...

[Pixel]

Chakrams are fine, but the personality you described and the weapon made me think of Collette from Tales of Sympohnia.

[Terros]

Oooooooooh, hmmm.....Telepathy, along with being able to manipulate the power of the crystal.

[Pixel]

THAT would be cool.:nod:

[Terros]

Yes, and being able to manipulate the power of the crystal she could bend it into any shape (like a summon) or weapon she wants.

[Pixel]

Dual wielding Crystal Short Swords.:w00t:*Starts to go into shock*

[Terros]

Oh dear god what have I done....call the hospital!

[Pixel]

DON't WORRY, I AM FINE.........*how can I type when I am in shock:blink:*

[Terros]

....Are you sure you're gonna be ok?

[Pixel]

Yeah, I am sure. I have a plan in case of emergency....;)

[Terros]

Ok........

[Desi]

Yes, and being able to manipulate the power of the crystal she could bend it into any shape (like a summon) or weapon she wants.Reminds me of the chinese element wheel and how japanese anime/manga loves to make metal a manipulatable weapon.

[Misschoco]

My Thoughts:


Weapon: Hope she will dual wield Ninja Blades....
Personality: She will most likely be the opposite of Storm, so she will most likely be happy and really cheerful.
Powers: Mage, or some kind of mind altering abilites (think of the Jedi)
How They Know Each Other: Know from before.These are by no means correct and most likely far off from everybody else's ideas.

-weapons:dual wield ninja blades
-personality:laid-back,strong minded and not friggin fussy
-powers:ermm
-how they know each other:meet when shes fighting of soldiers and he joins in

[Terros]

I get the feeling that the heroine will meet him in the course of the game, but that there may be some unseen connection from the past.

[Ultima Star]

......connection..like if he loved her in a past life....x___x

[Pixel]

-weapons:dual wield ninja blades
-personality:laid-back,strong minded and not friggin fussy
-powers:ermm
-how they know each other:meet when shes fighting of soldiers and he joins in

Wow, somebody else likes dual wielding ninja blades......:ohmy:

[Terros]

......connection..like if he loved her in a past life....x___x
Of if she is related or reminds him off someone from the past.

[Misschoco]

Wow, somebody else likes dual wielding ninja blades......:ohmy:
oh yhhh :nod:
......connection..like if he loved her in a past life....x___x
lol i think this is a cliche (im using that word a lot now)they should met at the present time and not originaly know each other i.e from childhood. It would just bring back the past and just seems...well cliched ;)

[Terros]

I think he doesn't know her directly from the past, but she may remind him of something that happened in the past, whether it be from how she looks or how she acts.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Though I agree with MissChoco about it being a cliche, but it's a pretty good start :P

[Terros]

Yes, some cliche's are good...that's why they are overused.

[Misschoco]

Yes, some cliche's are good...that's why they are overused.
too much overuse makes it predictable and 'oh this again' ;) theres something called original ideas............

[Terros]

Yes, but game companies are more worried about money than pleasing gamers. But this is Square we're talking about, so even if there is one or two cliche's we can expect that it'll still be different.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I hope they actually have decent music unlike FFXII...

[Terros]

Ah yes, the music, from the trailer it sounds pretty good, but then that is the "image" theme of the game.

[Misschoco]

Ah yes, the music, from the trailer it sounds pretty good, but then that is the "image" theme of the game.
yh it sets the mood for the game :rolleyes:

[Lifrasthir]

Exactly Miss Choco. :nod:<---I agree too much. :wacko:

[Pixel]

The Music is awesome.:w00t:

What was wrong with the music in FFXII?:blink:

[Lifrasthir]

Nothing's wrong with it.

[Terros]

Anywho back to the heroine. How old do you think she'll be? Nomura said there wouldn't really be a love story, so I wonder why...aside that there may be to much other stuff goin' on, what do you think prevents one? I have this idea that maybe there is an age gap between the heroine and Storm...either she's an adult (early 30's and up) or she's a younger child (7-12)...I'm leaning towards the child side of the spectrum. (This is all assuming that Storm falls between 16-22)

[Lifrasthir]

I hope "Storm" is at least past the age of 21...And I've never seen Square release a main character so young...have they done that before?

[Pixel]

I hope the heroine is old for some odd reason, just think having a 12 year old girl in a dark storyline would not make any sense.

And maybe, how old was Vaan in FFXII?

[Lifrasthir]

Vaan was 17 I think...

And I agree with you L-A. Having a 12 or 13 year old girl in a dark storyline doesn't seem right...I'm pretty sure the girl'll be around the V guy's age.

[Pixel]

Exactly, I hope that she is older than the V guy though, but not by like 20 years.

[Lifrasthir]

I do too. It's steryotyped in most scenarios that the girl either be the same age as the "hero" or vice versa, (The guy same age as the "heronie") or that the girl's younger...In most cases that is.