The heroine

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I prefer that strong people are not necessarily muscular in FF games to. If a person truly strong enough to wield the Buster Sword the same as Cloud does he would have to be some kind of steroid taking Dragonball character.

Hopefully this game will be a lot more physiological, maybe even a game you have to play through several times to understand all the undertones of it. Would be interesting to see our "heroine" actually turn out to be the evil one at the end of the game.

Yes it would :D ....Then the Versus guy would have a reason to kill her :blink: But then it would be more sad if she was a good person, then died when trying to defend the innocent citizens during the fight for the Crystals

[Terros]

All we can do is wait and see.

[N O C T E]

I prefer that strong people are not necessarily muscular in FF games to. If a person truly strong enough to wield the Buster Sword the same as Cloud does he would have to be some kind of steroid taking Dragonball character.

Hopefully this game will be a lot more physiological, maybe even a game you have to play through several times to understand all the undertones of it. Would be interesting to see our "heroine" actually turn out to be the evil one at the end of the game.

Sounds good....

I wish that they would turn somebody evil at the end of the game. Actually, I would like it IF YOU LOST. Like, you win the boss fight but then something happens, you made a crucial error and at the end of the game, the world is about to end. Then in the next one you continue the storyline.:nod:

[Desi]

Wouldn't it be much better though if you just failed. Not continue to the next game, just all your fighting was wrong or for nothing. It would kind of be tragic and I guess make some cry. Another Shadow of the Colossus Funtime spoiler:Or if that is too much they could pull of a SoTC (but I doubt they could) and still have what you were fighting for saved just not you/Versus boy/Dark Hero

[Alphonse]

Yeah like a twist! That would make a pretty cool sequal!

[Desi]

Yeah like a twist! That would make a pretty cool sequal!
No the point was their is no sequel. Just "The End".

[Alphonse]

Ooh. Like SotC. Well that would leave a lot of quetions not answered. I guess it could be an okay ending.

[Desi]

I see it as a great ending. It would be tragic while still instilling mixed feelings in the player.

All questions could be answered. Just because you lose doesn't mean that nothing will be explained. Oh and SotC ending is extremely excellent.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Ooh. Like SotC. Well that would leave a lot of quetions not answered. I guess it could be an okay ending.

Sometimes it's good to leave questions unanswered, like FFX, its ending was wonderful, but making the sequel sorta ruin its success :( It would leave room for imagination ^_^

[Ultima Star]

Well yeah sometimes sequels ruin the stories

[N O C T E]

It depends. If the sequel is going on one unfinished idea from the other game and then fills it with a bunch of other crap, then it won't be good. If the game leaves lots of questions unanswered and leaves you wanting for more, then it would most likely have a good sequel.

Plus, it matters to how the makers of the game make the game and what perspective they make it from.

[Ultima Star]

Well yeah sometimes it works ^_^
But I don't want questions to be left unanswered:'(

[N O C T E]

That is what I am trying to say. If the questions that are left unanswered are not deep enough to make another whole plot, then they should stay unanswered......

[Alphonse]

I dont think so! I want sequals and the heroine will dye!

[Ultima Star]

I want the heroine to die but I'm not sure....I think that Terro said that perhaps when we get to know her...did Terros say that?

[Alphonse]

Dont remember but she might dye.

[Ultima Star]

Well it depends on the way she acts:shifty:

[Terros]

I did say that, get to know her first, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up liking her and did not want her to die. I don't think she will die though.

[Ultima Star]

Yep, I was sure you said that:nod:..but we can like her but what if Storm doesn't like her?:blink:

[Wind]

I think the heroine has more to do with the v13 logo than the main character.

My reasons are followed because of...

1. The logo is dark - We all know Nomura wanted to make a dark game. Though if you look at yin and yang, Yang is dark which is also where women are located. Hence men are Yin (which is light). So its very possible that theres something dark about the female. Or its quite possible females have more of a dominant theme than in previous ff installments.

2. The moon - Remember Yuna from FFX? Her name if I remember correctly is Ainu (or Jpn) for the word Moon. So its possible that the main character has a longing for her or is awaiting (hence hes sleeping).

3. The Dragon - As we all know, a Dragon is just a really big snake with legs. So something of betrayl is going up as we further into the story. And since its tradgey, can we expect the main character to do the betraying?

4. The one Wing - If you look to the right of the female head, youll see the blue wing. Im not sure if theyre reinventing the one wing theme but I have a feeling the heroine is the opposed side of the main character (doesnt mean she is evil, just she is an opposite side.) Also take note Sephiroth (at least in KH) is Clouds darkness.

5. The second Dragon??? - Im not sure what in the heck that thing next to the female's head is. It looks like another serpent since it has a tube like body and a pointy face. Perhaps this means death to the heroine?

[Alphonse]

Wow! Well the first and second expla. makes a lot of sence!

[Terros]

I think the heroine has more to do with the v13 logo than the main character.

My reasons are followed because of...

1. The logo is dark - We all know Nomura wanted to make a dark game. Though if you look at yin and yang, Yang is dark which is also where women are located. Hence men are Yin (which is light). So its very possible that theres something dark about the female. Or its quite possible females have more of a dominant theme than in previous ff installments.

2. The moon - Remember Yuna from FFX? Her name if I remember correctly is Ainu (or Jpn) for the word Moon. So its possible that the main character has a longing for her or is awaiting (hence hes sleeping).

3. The Dragon - As we all know, a Dragon is just a really big snake with legs. So something of betrayl is going up as we further into the story. And since its tradgey, can we expect the main character to do the betraying?

4. The one Wing - If you look to the right of the female head, youll see the blue wing. Im not sure if theyre reinventing the one wing theme but I have a feeling the heroine is the opposed side of the main character (doesnt mean she is evil, just she is an opposite side.) Also take note Sephiroth (at least in KH) is Clouds darkness.

5. The second Dragon??? - Im not sure what in the heck that thing next to the female's head is. It looks like another serpent since it has a tube like body and a pointy face. Perhaps this means death to the heroine?
I don't think she'll die, the "dragon" could represent something else. In eastern culture the symbolize power, prosperity, life and wisdom. On a simpler note, it may be a summon. I wouldn't be surprised if the woman on the logo was the heroine. It would make sense, either that or she's the villainess, but then if she was evil it wouldn't make sense to call her the heroine unless Storm is the evil one.

[Ultima Star]

But! Storm is the hero..so perhaps the dragon show that she is the bad one:nod: as you said..I don't think Storm is the bad one..

[Terros]

Consider the game is being made by japan, and the serpentine dragon is a symbol of good. Not like the western dragon. Plus there was no official confirmation that Storm was good.

[Ultima Star]

...now that you say it..then..was there any official information saying that Storm was the hero?:blink:

[Terros]

See, for all we know, he could be the villian...though that would be a bit off.

[Ultima Star]

Yep because so far we've seen that those soldiers that attacked him were the bad guys..but if Storm was the villian then...perhaps those guys were sent by the heroine...that'd be weird

[Terros]

Who knows, neither Storm or the heroine could be "evil" there could be a third party all together, that is if the heroine is a seperate party from Storm.

[Ultima Star]

We call her the heroine..but does that mean Storm is not the hero?...if so then you said that there could be a third party...but who's the good one? I'm confused now..so you say that perhaps not Storm or the heroine could be evil but perhaps they're different sides..and the 'third' group then is the evil one:blink:

[Terros]

The only thing we know is that Strom is a king, who has all the crystal. So the heroine might want it for her country....in games the villian usually has the advantage at first.

[Ultima Star]

..so if he has the advantage because he has the crystal then is he the bad one?

[Desi]

I brought that idea up before. That the other nations want what the boy is hoarding for his country instead of spreading the wealth. He wouldn't be seen as bad to everyone but to the other countries he would. Also it would make him look selfish/greedy.

[Terros]

I brought that idea up before. That the other nations want what the boy is hoarding for his country instead of spreading the wealth. He wouldn't be seen as bad to everyone but to the other countries he would. Also it would make him look selfish/greedy.
Exactly, so though he's a "hero" to his country, he's a villain to the others.

[Ultima Star]

Ok so he's not the villian but is seen like if he was:blink: right?

[Terros]

Basically, it's hard to tell now, cause this FF will be more pyschological than previous ones.

[Ultima Star]

What do you mean with psychological?

[Alphonse]

I think shes trying to say "better"?

[Ultima Star]

Um...:huh: I think that what she's trying to say is that cos this game is gonna be darker than the previous ones..well...it's going to have a different impact..or something like that:P

[Desi]

I think shes trying to say "better"?Rocks do you smoke them?

She means thinking. The human brain, what makes us tick. Why we do the things we do. Shit like that. Haven't any of you heard about this in school?

[wyp2120]

你想象里好丰富哦~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Alphonse]

Dude! Thats awesome! Another language!

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Rocks do you smoke them?

She means thinking. The human brain, what makes us tick. Why we do the things we do. Shit like that. Haven't any of you heard about this in school?

So a more complex storyline.... yayz :D

[Terros]

So a more complex storyline.... yayz :D Yes, that will deal more with the human mind, and why we make the choices we do.

[N O C T E]

The game will delve into V's thinking throughout the game. His motive and reason for making certain choices.

[Ultima Star]

So like..ass aan example we're going through this game and then he chooses to kill the heroine..but it's not because he just said "YOU DESERVE TO DIE YOU..." but he has to had a reason to do it..and then that's when your theory/fact comes in and....we are going to be playing a game analizing why he does certain things..O.o right?

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

So like..ass aan example we're going through this game and then he chooses to kill the heroine..but it's not because he just said "YOU DESERVE TO DIE YOU..." but he has to had a reason to do it..and then that's when your theory/fact comes in and....we are going to be playing a game analizing why he does certain things..O.o right?

Yeah, so this game is from the first person view of V?

[N O C T E]

i guess, I don't really know how to explain it. When you progress through the game you can hear V's thoughts maybe, I dunno............I will have to think of how to explain it.

[Terros]

Yeah, so this game is from the first person view of V?
Not just him but the villains and other characters.

[Ultima Star]

Yep but anyways we're going to be playing the game from V's point of view right?:blink:

[Desi]

I have no faith in it turning out good. unless they have a real psychologist on the team, it would probably be made up mumbo jumbo.

[N O C T E]

Heh, good point........

[Terros]

I have no faith in it turning out good. unless they have a real psychologist on the team, it would probably be made up mumbo jumbo. Ultimately it will come down to their understanding of the human mind and linking that with the art of story telling.

[Desi]

That is what Phillip Zimbardo is for. Taking a class is not going to make them anymore credited. I would expect nothing less then a expert in the field. People taking made up crap without actual testing and saying that it is "complex" is not the way to explain what motivates someone. No degree, not for me.

[N O C T E]

He has got a good point.......like usual.

[Terros]

That is what Phillip Zimbardo is for. Taking a class is not going to make them anymore credited. I would expect nothing less then a expert in the field. People taking made up crap without actual testing and saying that it is "complex" is not the way to explain what motivates someone. No degree, not for me.
I'm sure they'll have some help.

[Ultima Star]

Well..I guess we should.........back on topic-_-

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Well..I guess we should.........back on topic-_-

Nothing to talk about :(

[Ultima Star]

Really:blink: have we covered everything about the heroine?

[N O C T E]

Pretty much we over....over speculated the Heroine.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Errr.... did we talk about her purpose in the story?:blink:

[Dream Machine]

Hmmm, super cool lady who clashes with the protaganist a lot? Probably haha.

Hmm what about looks, I think it'd be cool if she had long rippling blonde hair, no-one ever seems to have curly hair in an FF, always that funky super-straight stuff.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Hmmm, super cool lady who clashes with the protaganist a lot? Probably haha.

Hmm what about looks, I think it'd be cool if she had long rippling blonde hair, no-one ever seems to have curly hair in an FF, always that funky super-straight stuff.

How about wavy hair? And maybe with some highlights ^_^

[Dream Machine]

Wavy would also be cool, something a bit different ya know. Maybe two-tone hair, sorta like natural highlights.

From VII through to XII I can't think of any charecters with wavy/curly hair!?

I don't know why I'm getting so obsessed with the hair.

[Desi]

Yoshida does a lot of curly hair. Look at Final Fantasy Tactics or Vagrant Story both which released around the VII-IX releases. I am surprised at the lack of curls in XII but that can always be blamed on the team having to change their plans/characters.

Nomura dislikes curly hair as much as he dislikes facial hair it seems.

[Dream Machine]

Well I don't want the heroine to have facial hair, hehe. Nomuras doing the designs for this isn't he?

I didn't much like the charecter designs in XII, save Balthiers and Ashes really.

[Desi]

Well I don't want the heroine to have facial hair, hehe. Nomuras doing the designs for this isn't he? Not the heroine but I am talking of the males lack of facial hair. Yes Nomura is doing the designs.

I didn't much like the charecter designs in XII, save Balthiers and Ashes really.You see, I was starting to like you but now like the rest of the board you are dead to me. OH well.

[Dream Machine]

I was joking about the facial hair!

On 12, I'm sorry but I found the colours a bit too earthy (like much of the game) I know thats a bit of a silly reason, but it just didn't really work for me. Actually the coolest looking charecter in that game was definatly El Cid. Don't wanna go off on another tangent but 12 was whacked out too quickly, you never even get to go to anywhere in Rozzaria!

[Terros]

Yoshida does a lot of curly hair. Look at Final Fantasy Tactics or Vagrant Story both which released around the VII-IX releases. I am surprised at the lack of curls in XII but that can always be blamed on the team having to change their plans/characters.

Nomura dislikes curly hair as much as he dislikes facial hair it seems.
So does the character designer for Squares Mana Series, that person does a lot of curly hair too.

[Ultima Star]

is there something wrong with curly hair?:blink:..we haven't actually seen that many girls with curly hair^^;;

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

is there something wrong with curly hair?:blink:..we haven't actually seen that many girls with curly hair^^;;

No, it's just harder to draw and create than straight hair ^_^

[Dream Machine]

Yeah but thats a poor excuse on thier part. I mean they like making mad looking buildings, charecters, monsters, etc and that must take quite a bit of effort. Curly hair can't be beyond them.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yeah but thats a poor excuse on thier part. I mean they like making mad looking buildings, charecters, monsters, etc and that must take quite a bit of effort. Curly hair can't be beyond them.

True, but I guess since most asians have straight hair, he is tempted to draw straight instead of curly hair

[Terros]

Besides don't forget that most of his characters when cged look somewhat asian to an extent if they're clearly a different race.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Besides don't forget that most of his characters when cged look somewhat asian to an extent if they're clearly a different race.

But wavy hair should be in the game somewhere :nod:

[Terros]

I'm sure they'll have someone with wavy or curly hair...eventually...

[Ultima Star]

Perhapss..if a character from..I dunno Europe shows up perhaps she'll have curly hair^^;

[Lawliet]

I could see him designing a character with wavy/curly hair just to push the graphics engine a bit, similar to Squall's ruff in Final Fantasy VIII. His white fur color wasn't originally part of the character design, but was added as a bit of a challenge to the CGers....

Not to mention, it's not like Lightening's hair is poker straight either. It definitely has some wave to it. Different "game", but it goes to show that doing something like that isn't beyond them.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I could see him designing a character with wavy/curly hair just to push the graphics engine a bit, similar to Squall's ruff in Final Fantasy VIII. His white fur color wasn't originally part of the character design, but was added as a bit of a challenge to the CGers....

Not to mention, it's not like Lightening's hair is poker straight either. It definitely has some wave to it. Different "game", but it goes to show that doing something like that isn't beyond them.


Maybe they already did it before, it's just not that visible. Like Lawliet said, some characters' hair isn't super-straight

[Ultima Star]

Yeah like in Dirge of Cerberus:blink: Vincent's hair is not that straight^_^

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yeah like in Dirge of Cerberus:blink: Vincent's hair is not that straight^_^

His hair is supposed to be straight....I think (check out the more advanced animations) it looks tangled to me :lol:

[N O C T E]

His hair is supposed to be straight....I think (check out the more advanced animations) it looks tangled to me :lol:

:ninja:............."Know where I can buy a comb?"

[Ultima Star]

..um..:blink:...I was saying that it looks like that when we see him when we are playng the game..we don't see his face much..only his hair...

[N O C T E]

:ninja:............."Know where I can buy a comb?"

It was a joke............I thought you would have gotten that one, it goes with AC...........<_<

[Terros]

I think we're starting to get way off topic, let's just stop if we can't think of anything else pretaining to the heroine, else they may lock this thread.

[Ultima Star]

We were talking about her hair..it' that offtopic?..and Nocte..I knew you were joking..I should have used quotes<_<
Don't worry Terros-chan^^ it won't be locked if we stick to the topic:D

[N O C T E]

I think we're starting to get way off topic, let's just stop if we can't think of anything else pretaining to the heroine, else they may lock this thread.

That would be OR else................Anyway........anything else about the Heroine we want to speculate about?

[Ultima Star]

Her height perhaps:blink:

[Terros]

Are those things really significant? Though it would be interesting if she was taller than Storm.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Are those things really significant? Though it would be interesting if she was taller than Storm.

It would make him look wimpy :( almost the same height perhaps?

[Ultima Star]

A little shorter than him?..the same height then:D she would look beautiful..ok the same height but if Storm is not that tall:blink:

[N O C T E]

:cunning:..........Midgets.

[Ultima Star]

XD...but it's normal than the guy is taller than the girl..I'd like Storm to be like 5'9 and her to be like 5'5 or 5'6

[Desi]

It would make him look wimpy :( almost the same height perhaps?
Fran is much taller than Baltheir and he still doesn't get taken as a wimp. I mean, the guy even has hand-to-hand skills.

Make her a tall Hispanic girl. I swear that would sell copies.

[N O C T E]

Fran is much taller than Baltheir and he still doesn't get taken as a wimp. I mean, the guy even has hand-to-hand skills.

Make her a tall Hispanic girl. I swear that would sell copies.

Balthier is one of favorite characters of all time..............He kicks some serious ass.:nod:

Does the height even matter?:blink:

[Desi]

Does the height even matter?:blink:
Hispanics are stereotyped to be short like blacks are supposed to be tall. Making her tall would make her standout even more because she is a hispanic in a game. Also being a female lead would help.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Fran is much taller than Baltheir and he still doesn't get taken as a wimp. I mean, the guy even has hand-to-hand skills.

Make her a tall Hispanic girl. I swear that would sell copies.

So you're saying as long as he fights well, it wouldn't matter? :ohmy:

Hispanics are stereotyped to be short like blacks are supposed to be tall. Making her tall would make her standout even more because she is a hispanic in a game. Also being a female lead would help.

Plus, FF don't really have that much Hispanic characters to begin with :nod:

XD...but it's normal than the guy is taller than the girl..I'd like Storm to be like 5'9 and her to be like 5'5 or 5'6

I would want it to be ike that, but a change would be nice for once :D

[Dream Machine]

I want a hispanic charecter! She could be hispanic that would be great. Hmmm I know people say that these races don't exist in the fantasy worlds of FF. But consider, any world with differing climates will have people with different amounts of melanin or whatever it's called. Everyone was white in FFXII which annoyed me as the climate was so hot in most places. Most people should have been dark, but I digress.

HISPANIC GIRL CHARECTER PLEASE. Maybe just to go completly off the beaten path, she could have an afro? God I'd love to see an afro in an FF. I'm talking about hair again :lol:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I want a hispanic charecter! She could be hispanic that would be great. Hmmm I know people say that these races don't exist in the fantasy worlds of FF. But consider, any world with differing climates will have people with different amounts of melanin or whatever it's called. Everyone was white in FFXII which annoyed me as the climate was so hot in most places. Most people should have been dark, but I digress.

HISPANIC GIRL CHARECTER PLEASE. Maybe just to go completly off the beaten path, she could have an afro? God I'd love to see an afro in an FF. I'm talking about hair again :lol:

Afro? That would be scary but okay :lol:

[Terros]

It would make him look wimpy :( almost the same height perhaps? No it wouldn't, being tall isn't necessarily an advantage. David and Goliath is an example of that.

Side note: Hispanic, great!!! Afro, NO FREAKING WAY!

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

No it wouldn't, being tall isn't necessarily an advantage. David and Goliath is an example of that.

Side note: Hispanic, great!!! Afro, NO FREAKING WAY!

I suppose the heroine is back to straight hair again <_<

[Alphonse]

Whats with the heroins hair!?

[Terros]

I suppose the heroine is back to straight hair again <_<
Well have you ever seen a hispanic person with an afro? I haven't.

[Alphonse]

I sure have!! * nod* Yep!

[Desi]

I suppose the heroine is back to straight hair again <_<
hispanic women seem to like curls in their hair. More curls then lightning but not a lot more.

[Dream Machine]

Hispanic people don't have afros. However three points:

ONE anyone can have an afro if you give your hair the right treatment.
TWO this isn't our world, while differing races make a lot of sense, making them exactly comparable to our own doesn't really.
THREE since when has FF ever taken any notice of 'possible' hair?

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Well have you ever seen a hispanic person with an afro? I haven't.

Not....yet XD :rolleyes:

hispanic women seem to like curls in their hair. More curls then lightning but not a lot more.

I think Hispanics have natural curls, well most of them :nod: Curls are pretty lol

Hispanic people don't have afros. However three points:

ONE anyone can have an afro if you give your hair the right treatment.
TWO this isn't our world, while differing races make a lot of sense, making them exactly comparable to our own doesn't really.
THREE since when has FF ever taken any notice of 'possible' hair?

I just want to see a change really :D

[Desi]

TWO this isn't our world, while differing races make a lot of sense, making them exactly comparable to our own doesn't really.You are right, these white people aren't white they are just white painted! Come on, people like to be represented in their games. I would love some more black characters that don't have white hair (when did that become black?).

THREE since when has FF ever taken any notice of 'possible' hair?Um...every FF other then VII? I thought you played FF's? The whole point of Amano's hair was that it was very natural. Even Nomura's characters have pretty common hair though stylized except like Cloud and a few others(you know until he worked on the Bouncer).

[Dream Machine]

I don't think Kuja's silver fluffy hair, Zells super-spike, or Lulu's painstakingly braided hair were very possible either. Not impossible prehaps but no-one in our world would bother.

[N O C T E]

I would love some more black characters that don't have white hair (when did that become black?).

Technically, everyones hair is white. When you are born is has color, as you grow old, it turns gray and then eventually white.

But I agree, unless the black guy is over 60, he needs to have black hair or black hair with some gray in it to show signs of age.

[Dream Machine]

I'd love to see a black guy with similar hair to that ridiculously cool looking turk from before crisis. I think its half cane-rolled and half spiky.

[Lifrasthir]

I'd love to see a black guy with similar hair to that ridiculously cool looking turk from before crisis. I think its half cane-rolled and half spiky.

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r26/Beyond_Good_and_Evil/Turks/Rafe.jpg
You mean this guy?

[Dream Machine]

Yeah yeah! Oh its shaved not cane-rolled. Hmmm still very cool though.

[Terros]

Hispanic people don't have afros. However three points:

ONE anyone can have an afro if you give your hair the right treatment.
TWO this isn't our world, while differing races make a lot of sense, making them exactly comparable to our own doesn't really.
THREE since when has FF ever taken any notice of 'possible' hair?
Good point, never thought of it that way...

[Desi]

I don't think Kuja's silver fluffy hair, Zells super-spike, or Lulu's painstakingly braided hair were very possible either. Not impossible prehaps but no-one in our world would bother.
Kuja's isn't that hard to recreate at all.
Zell's sure you got me there. Falls into the group with Cloud's hugely gelled crap.
Lulu, hard to do but I have seen it several times wore by black girls. I go to a salon for my hair so that style is uncommon but actually done.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Kuja's isn't that hard to recreate at all.
Zell's sure you got me there. Falls into the group with Cloud's hugely gelled crap.
Lulu, hard to do but I have seen it several times wore by black girls. I go to a salon for my hair so that style is uncommon but actually done.

I agree :D I see that kind of hairstyle all the time

[Terros]

Yeah, my mom could do that, man she rocks with braids. Anywho, do you think she'll have long hair or short? Since I think she may be the woman on the logo, I say long, and looking at that womans hair a bit wavy too.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yeah, my mom could do that, man she rocks with braids. Anywho, do you think she'll have long hair or short? Since I think she may be the woman on the logo, I say long, and looking at that womans hair a bit wavy too.

Yay, I like wavy hair! I think her hair is long as well :)

[Terros]

Yeah, from the logo, she'll have REALLY long hair....mayby longer than Sephiroth's.....o.o

[Lifrasthir]

The hair from the logo could just be exaggurated. (<-spelling)

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

The hair from the logo could just be exaggurated. (<-spelling)

Yeah, check out the FFX logo... Yuna's hair is longer there then in the game :nod:

[Terros]

Ok, so long, and somewhat wavy. I think that's good, that is providing she is the heroine.

[Lifrasthir]

It could be someone else though.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Unlikely, because it's usually a main/important character on the logo

[Lifrasthir]

But if you look at the FFXIII logo, there's two females (I think) shown. Wouldn't Square by now have released information on another female heronie if there was one?...........? The logo has to have something to do with the game, yes, but it doesn't have to show the main characters right? *looks at previous FF logos*

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

But if you look at the FFXIII logo, there's two females (I think) shown. Wouldn't Square by now have released information on another female heronie if there was one?...........? The logo has to have something to do with the game, yes, but it doesn't have to show the main characters right? *looks at previous FF logos*

Eh... two women on a horse, it looks like :blink: Or it could be a male with long hair :rolleyes:

[Lifrasthir]

Yeah, exactly!

I'm wondering what the dragon-like thing is from the logo though. On the left hand side underneath where it says "Final Fantasy Versus XIII" there's something that looks like a dragon sticking out of the side.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/Untouchable_Memories/versuslogo.jpg
That thing ^

[N O C T E]

Okay, I do not see a freaking horse.

[Lifrasthir]

Okay, I do not see a freaking horse.

The horse is from the FFXIII logo.

[N O C T E]

Oh, I was about to say, maybe, you have to be high, and THEN it appears.

EDIT: It looks more like a serpent, not a dragon.

[Lifrasthir]

But I swear those are wing joints jutting out of the blue mass like the head.

[N O C T E]

Nope. It just looks like the bodies of more snakes to me, we need another opinion.

[Lifrasthir]

Where's Desi when you need him? :rolleyes:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yeah, exactly!

I'm wondering what the dragon-like thing is from the logo though. On the left hand side underneath where it says "Final Fantasy Versus XIII" there's something that looks like a dragon sticking out of the side.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/Untouchable_Memories/versuslogo.jpg
That thing ^


What the heck is that? It looks like a floating piece of a cliff, on top is the sun and the clouds. and maybe the dragon thingy lives there? :blink: ...I'm losing myself...

[Terros]

If you look next to her head, there looks like there's another serpentine creature....It's really dark. It's behind, what presumebly is the crystal (the round thing).

[N O C T E]

I think that the heroine is sleeping on the cliff-thingy, with the sun behind her to warm her, and the serpents are trying to deceive her somehow, thus that is where Storm would come in.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I don't see the heroine on the cliff :blink:

[Lifrasthir]

Well, it sure looks like she's sleeping.

The wing jutting out from where the head is reminds oh so greatly of the fin of a koi fish. ;)

[Terros]

There isn't a cliff, that is her body which is veiled in a robe or some kind of garment.

[Lifrasthir]

Oh yeah, I can see that! The two light objects that her head's resting on you can sorta tell are her arms. Then in the middle of that mass you can see a curve where her leg's supposed to be. And you can see her hands underneather her cheek. :w00t: Wow, I never noticed that before! >_<

[Terros]

Really? That was the first thing that I took note of when I first I took note of when I saw it.

Here's Terros' notes on the logo:

- The woman is resting her head on her arms

- The robe she's wearing appears to be see through in some parts --> Actually no, the more I look at it, you can see a little bit of her stomach showing, it IS NOT a robe. It's a fancy shirt, that looks like she has some kind of veil on over it, and a long dress - it's a two peice outfit. NOTE: the ends of her skirt appear to be ripped, the fabric is jagged, uneven, and has holes in parts of it --> this may hold some significance to her character, however this I cannot prove.

- Behind the woman is a "wing" and a round object that appears to emitting energy, possibly the the crystal.

- To the left of the crystal is a serpentine like figure, how it's related I can't be sure, it could be a summon, or a pet related to the woman in some way.

- On the left side farther down we see another serpentine like creature, from the way it looks as well as how it seems to be a part of the object behind the woman, it is possible that it may just be a part of the object, like some kind of decoration. Of course it could be a living creature, but I can't be sure.

- Examining the object some more, it appears that it might be a stand that the spherical object is resting on, but because the woman is covering most of it, I can't be sure.

- Note the fact that the woman is standing in front of what might be the crystal emitting energy, this may be a clue to her relationship to the crystal, but I cannot be sure.

Well that's about it.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Ohhhhh! Her body is huge :blink:

:rolleyes:

[Terros]

Most of it is being covered by her dress.

[Ultima Star]

Yeah well he can be a thin person like all the female characters but..yeah she has a huge dress:blink:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Then I'm guessing she isn't a playable character.... :'(

[Terros]

Why not? What she wears won't stop her from fighting, it will effect how she fights though. Further if she's not playable she can't really be called the heroine, finally, things are exaggerated in the logo.

[N O C T E]

Well, clothes have never had a large impact on gameplay in JRPG's....

"Oh, we are going to the tundra? Lets wear a damn vest!" Said Vaan......

[Ultima Star]

I don't think it will affect the way she moves..perhaps she has some special attacks too:D

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Why not? What she wears won't stop her from fighting, it will effect how she fights though. Further if she's not playable she can't really be called the heroine, finally, things are exaggerated in the logo.

Oh, I get it :)

So does her clothes also give us a slight hint on what position she stands in society?

[Ultima Star]

It could be..perhaps you're right Fearless, that dress tells me she's a person from the high society:D

[Terros]

Actually not really got back a page or two and read my analysis of the her clothes, they're ripped, adn somewhat ragged, she's probably of peasant standing.

Here it is again:

Really? That was the first thing that I took note of when I first I took note of when I saw it.

Here's Terros' notes on the logo:

- The woman is resting her head on her arms

- The robe she's wearing appears to be see through in some parts --> Actually no, the more I look at it, you can see a little bit of her stomach showing, it IS NOT a robe. It's a fancy shirt, that looks like she has some kind of veil on over it, and a long dress - it's a two peice outfit. NOTE: the ends of her skirt appear to be ripped, the fabric is jagged, uneven, and has holes in parts of it --> this may hold some significance to her character, however this I cannot prove.

- Behind the woman is a "wing" and a round object that appears to emitting energy, possibly the the crystal.

- To the left of the crystal is a serpentine like figure, how it's related I can't be sure, it could be a summon, or a pet related to the woman in some way.

- On the left side farther down we see another serpentine like creature, from the way it looks as well as how it seems to be a part of the object behind the woman, it is possible that it may just be a part of the object, like some kind of decoration. Of course it could be a living creature, but I can't be sure.

- Examining the object some more, it appears that it might be a stand that the spherical object is resting on, but because the woman is covering most of it, I can't be sure.

- Note the fact that the woman is standing in front of what might be the crystal emitting energy, this may be a clue to her relationship to the crystal, but I cannot be sure.

Well that's about it.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Or maybe she fought a hard battle? :blink:

[Terros]

Yes but battles have never seemed to have a major impact on their clothes.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

True that.... their clothes never seem to rip :blink:

SO what do you suggest her personality be like? (did we already discuss that?)

[N O C T E]

True that.... their clothes never seem to rip :blink:

SO what do you suggest her personality be like? (did we already discuss that?)

Yes, we did discuss that.

[Terros]

If she is the woman in the logo, she probably doesn't know the hero yet, because from her appearence she is of lower standing.

[Ultima Star]

Actually not really got back a page or two and read my analysis of the her clothes, they're ripped, adn somewhat ragged, she's probably of peasant standing.

Here it is again:

Really? That was the first thing that I took note of when I first I took note of when I saw it.

Here's Terros' notes on the logo:

- The woman is resting her head on her arms

- The robe she's wearing appears to be see through in some parts --> Actually no, the more I look at it, you can see a little bit of her stomach showing, it IS NOT a robe. It's a fancy shirt, that looks like she has some kind of veil on over it, and a long dress - it's a two peice outfit. NOTE: the ends of her skirt appear to be ripped, the fabric is jagged, uneven, and has holes in parts of it --> this may hold some significance to her character, however this I cannot prove.

- Behind the woman is a "wing" and a round object that appears to emitting energy, possibly the the crystal.

- To the left of the crystal is a serpentine like figure, how it's related I can't be sure, it could be a summon, or a pet related to the woman in some way.

- On the left side farther down we see another serpentine like creature, from the way it looks as well as how it seems to be a part of the object behind the woman, it is possible that it may just be a part of the object, like some kind of decoration. Of course it could be a living creature, but I can't be sure.

- Examining the object some more, it appears that it might be a stand that the spherical object is resting on, but because the woman is covering most of it, I can't be sure.

- Note the fact that the woman is standing in front of what might be the crystal emitting energy, this may be a clue to her relationship to the crystal, but I cannot be sure.

Well that's about it.

That's a pretty good anylisis Terros-chan:ohmy:
I never noticed all these things..-_-

[Terros]

You've got to looked really closely to notice them, it's easy to skip over some of those things.

[Ultima Star]

Yeah I guess...but really what does the dragon have to do with her?...have we talked about the possibility of her being bad..? oh wait..then she wouldn't be the heroine..-_-

[Desi]

The dragon deals with nothing. Amano draws dragons in nearly every logo and other piece of art. The only time a Dragon he drew for a logo that was important was in FFV.

[Terros]

Yeah I guess...but really what does the dragon have to do with her?

If I knew I would tell you.

[Misschoco]

Yeah I guess...but really what does the dragon have to do with her?...have we talked about the possibility of her being bad..? oh wait..then she wouldn't be the heroine..-_-


Quote:there is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so (yh you.ve heard it a zillion times) anyways considering that quote it may seem to you shes on the bad side and a villian but for others or her side she could be a herione........sorry i couldnt clarify that much but did that make sense???

[Dream Machine]

Doesn't that quote indicate that the story isn't concerned with good or evil, but rather differeing opinions? A much more realistic idea if you ask me.

It would be interesting if she started out as an ally and gradually through some sort of ideological shift became an enemy or something.

[Dustin]

I thought the protagonist for Final Fantasy Versus XIII was male, while Lightning, the protagonist of Final Fantasy XIII- was female.

[N O C T E]

I thought the protagonist for Final Fantasy Versus XIII was male, while Thunder, the protagonist of Final Fantasy XIII- was female.

First of all, its Lightning not Thunder.

Now, For all we know Storm is the protagonist of FFVXIII, but we are speculating about a heroine for the game.

[Dustin]

My mistake, I was thinking about Fable, Thunder is a character in that game. I'll edit my post. And thank you for the response :-)

[Ultima Star]

Quote:there is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so (yh you.ve heard it a zillion times) anyways considering that quote it may seem to you shes on the bad side and a villian but for others or her side she could be a herione........sorry i couldnt clarify that much but did that make sense???

Eh no I didn't say I thought she was a villina..I was just asking:nod:

Doesn't that quote indicate that the story isn't concerned with good or evil, but rather differeing opinions? A much more realistic idea if you ask me.

It would be interesting if she started out as an ally and gradually through some sort of ideological shift became an enemy or something.

Like betraying him or something like that?

[Misschoco]

Doesn't that quote indicate that the story isn't concerned with good or evil, but rather differeing opinions? A much more realistic idea if you ask me.

yh i guess you put it better that way

Eh no I didn't say I thought she was a villina..I was just asking:nod:

well just in case anyone thought how could she be a herione if shes on the bad side

[Terros]

Well if the game is more about differing opinions, then the hero and heroine may be on different sides, and you interperate things based on who you agree with. So there might be two playable characters, we might be able to play as the hero and the heroine separately....

side note: *hugs dream machine for awesome avatar* I love you.

[Desi]

Quote:there is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so (yh you.ve heard it a zillion times) anyways considering that quote it may seem to you shes on the bad side and a villian but for others or her side she could be a herione........sorry i couldnt clarify that much but did that make sense???We said that over two dozen times. You are driving me mad!

[Dream Machine]

Like betraying him or something like that?

Prehaps, that could be intresting. I could imagine her as a member of his elite guard that through the influence of some third party begins to empathize with the surrounding country/ies and then breaks ties/attacks him/etc.


side note: *hugs dream machine for awesome avatar* I love you.

:lol: Thanks.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Quote:there is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so (yh you.ve heard it a zillion times) anyways considering that quote it may seem to you shes on the bad side and a villian but for others or her side she could be a herione........sorry i couldnt clarify that much but did that make sense???

So are you saying she may be a villian in some people's eyes but a heroine in others? I always thought it was referring to the Versus Guy :blink:

[Terros]

It can reffer to all the characters if that is the nature of the the game. The characters you play as would be the hero and heroine, but whether they really are is in the eye of the beholder.

[Ultima Star]

you mean we can think they are the heroes of the story but something may happen so um..they wouldn't be the heroes anymore..how to explain this:unsure:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

you mean we can think they are the heroes of the story but something may happen so um..they wouldn't be the heroes anymore..how to explain this:unsure:

No, I think Terros means that the Versus guy may not be a hero from different people's point of view *doesn't know the right way to explain it* :(

He may be the main character, but he might not be a hero (as in good guy)

[Desi]

Wow, we are back to explaining that again?

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"

Just because he is seen as a protector of his people does not mean that the other countries feel the same love.

[Terros]

Exactly, one person might see him as a hero while another could see him as the villian. Basically he's what you could call an ambiguous character, in that he might not be able to be flat out labeled as good or evil.

[Ultima Star]

Oh I see, well...anyway..back to the heroine...have we talked about the posibility of her being like..a princess or stuff like that?

[Terros]

Yes we have, though I think she may be of lower standing.

[Ultima Star]

After long time waiting for info :ohmy: we finally have something.
This girl can used magic (duh..) and her clothes dont seem like the ones of a princess D=
She is blonde AND her hair is kinda curly ;) and not that long not that short :nod:

[Terros]

Yep, she's probably the heroine, though I think she resembles Lightning too much. I still have some doubts though there are some similarities to the woman on the logo, the dress is still pretty different. But it would seem that she is the likely canidate for the heroine. But from her style of dress it would seem to me she's more related to the blonde guy, they could be family.

[Jive Turkey]

Oh yeah I had heard that Lighting may not be the actual heroine, but then SE said she was and now she's not *confused* >_<
But I do think I'd like Lighting to be the actual heroine in this title personally

[Desi]

Lightning is from a different game. Terros was only using her as a reference. This is not the topic for Lightning to be argued if she is or is not the heroine for FFXIII.

[Jive Turkey]

Oh whoops read the thread wrong, didn't see the versus part :P
Sorry bout that

[Terros]

There are some things though that make me doubt whether she truely is the heroine, for example if the woman on the logo is the heroine (Note: This is not set in stone, but she's the most likely canidate, aside from the woman that was revealed in the trailer) then the woman who appeared in the new trailer may not be her.

A) The hair is different, the woman in the logo has slicked back hair while the woman in the fan art (so this my not be totally accurate) clearly has bangs. Also here hair is significantly shorter, yes it is true that the artist who makes the logos exaggerates things, but I have never seen things exaggerated THAT much.

B) The skirt is different as well, it is not tathered at the ends like the womans skirt in the logo. Also it's significantly shorter than the woman in the logo's skirty. Again my point regarding the hair.

C) The woman in the fan art appears to be wearing boots while the woman in the logo is clearly shown wearing high heels.

D) The shirt also different, the woman in the fanart is wearing a sleeveless vest, with a black shirt under it that covers her whole torso, while the woman in the logo is wearing a long sleeve shirt with intricate designs, it also reveals some of her stomach. Also the woman in the fanart does not have the veil.

That is why I have my doubts about this newly revealed woman. Further considering the past logo's the character in the versus logo is significant which in my opinion rules her out as a supporting character. She then falls into on of two roles: the leading female or the villainess. It's possible that the woman in the trailer may be the main supporting female role. Of course at this point nothing has been set in stone.

[BlueOni]

Well if her looks match her personality, she'll probably be the brooding, introverted type. Good, that'll be interesting and original. (I'm talking about the one on the site's banner.)

[Sidderz]

Well if her looks match her personality, she'll probably be the brooding, introverted type. Good, that'll be interesting and original. (I'm talking about the one on the site's banner.)

Surely you're talking about FFXIII's heroine not VXIII's..

[BlueOni]

Yeah, that's the one, looks like I posted on the wrong forum.

[Sidderz]

Yeah, that's the one, looks like I posted on the wrong forum.

Ah well no harm done. :) Lightning is awesome though..

[Misschoco]

A) The hair is different, the woman in the logo has slicked back hair while the woman in the fan art (so this my not be totally accurate) clearly has bangs. Also here hair is significantly shorter, yes it is true that the artist who makes the logos exaggerates things, but I have never seen things exaggerated THAT much.

B) The skirt is different as well, it is not tathered at the ends like the womans skirt in the logo. Also it's significantly shorter than the woman in the logo's skirty. Again my point regarding the hair.

C) The woman in the fan art appears to be wearing boots while the woman in the logo is clearly shown wearing high heels.

D) The shirt also different, the woman in the fanart is wearing a sleeveless vest, with a black shirt under it that covers her whole torso, while the woman in the logo is wearing a long sleeve shirt with intricate designs, it also reveals some of her stomach. Also the woman in the fanart does not have the veil.


Good observations...............but we've also got to remember that none of the character designs are finalized

[Terros]

True, true, they said it would be final around the end of the month...right?

[Sidderz]

Didn't they say the finalisations would be shown early next year?

[Terros]

Ah, that's it, next year. Dang now we have to wait till 2008! I wonder when the actual game is set to be released....late 2009 at the earliest.

[Jive Turkey]

Yeah I kinda figured it'd be like 2009 most likey
I mean there is so little known about it thus far, no demo an unknown release date FOR a demo, but hopefully square isn't going to be cramming these projects to much by like rushing them or overworking them

[Sidderz]

I like the fact in a sense that they're so long away, it shows they're being cared for especially.

The downside though is the waiting..

>__> *head implodes*

[Terros]

That's what I hate the most, is the waiting and not learning anything or getting anything new! Not even a trailer....*sigh*

[terek]

its nearing 2008 and my ps3 are still in the box (waiting it to be open for FINAL FANTASY 13 and Versus only) ...

but the heroine clothe seems a bit like Rinoa ff8 rite?? Probably energatic or have a dog... argh i want to see that trailer the artist look at!!! probably we can take his memory and become an image :P like in Heroes... someone got that ability???

[Dark Vincent]

Are you serious you are not playing your PS3 until these games are released? >.> Dang that's one patient person

[terek]

Are you serious you are not playing your PS3 until these games are released? >.> Dang that's one patient person

of course, im a very patient person. Since i buy it with my OWN HARD-SWEAT money.( It took me to save for like 4 months). Since my cousin have 360, so i just played that one...

[Firewolf]

seriously man i need to play my ps3 once in a while but waiting nearly a yr or so to play a game

[Whiplash]

Well over a year I'd say considering how little information is coming out about the games.

[Dark Remnant]

of course, im a very patient person. Since i buy it with my OWN HARD-SWEAT money.( It took me to save for like 4 months). Since my cousin have 360, so i just played that one...

I won't be getting one until FF Versus XIII is released, until then my brother's Xbox 360 should hole me down.

[Kyshia]

That's what I hate the most, is the waiting and not learning anything or getting anything new! Not even a trailer....*sigh*

I hate that as well !!! I don't remember when the first trailer was released but it was about 1 year ago no ?? and since that NOTHING ! ( or maybe the little trailer of 10 sec :blink:) Anyway, if Skirt Girl is the new heroine, she looks prety cool to me, but it's not the same to see a character in a picture and a character in a trailer. Do you think they will show her at the next jump festa ?

[Terros]

Maybe, IN A CLOSED MEGA THEATRE!!

[Kyshia]

Maybe, IN A CLOSED MEGA THEATRE!!

haa yes !! I forgot that ! :'( Too sad we don't have a spy who would be able to film the trailer hé hé !

[Terros]

Oh well just wait another year for them to release it on dvd...-_-

[pupucachi]

The heroine could be the "skirt girl" from Maiki's pic. I'm sure she has relationship with the Prince

[Terros]

She could be, I just have this feeling about the lady on the logo...

[Dream Machine]

I heard something about a building blowing up in one of the trailers. God I hope the lady in the trailers did it. I can imagine them calling it a terrorist attack and using it as an excuse to go to war with the Outer World. Well Nomura said he was going to use real world issues.

She'd be a wanted terrorist, presumably hotter then Osama bin laden.

[Jive Turkey]

Gah if that's the case then the U.S. government is going to have a field day with this game :/

[Dream Machine]

Meh those crazy neocons would ban everything if they had their way. I can't wait to see what they make of MGS4.

I just don't want her to be one of those subdued FF females. Id love her to have a story along the lines of well-respected princess (from a less influentaial house then The Prince's) that falls from grace due to her dissaproval of her states policies. She publicly speaks against her country even though shes good friends with the Prince. Someone tries to assasinate her (probably from the government/council/whoever decides things) and she goes into hiding. Gradually she becomes radicalized after experiencing life in The Outer World and becomes a 'freedom-fighter'.

It'd fit in with the trailers but I sincerly doubt Nomura would go there.

[Terros]

I still think the heroine will be related to the crystal in some way, maybe even more directly than the prince.

[pupucachi]

She could be, I just have this feeling about the lady on the logo...

Well, I don't think the lady is heroine. Maybe she has something to do with the crystal. She looks like a goddess to me <_<

[Terros]

From the look of that skirt and how ragged it is, I highly doubt it, I did all whole thing analyzing the way she was dressed, I think it's in this topic somewhere.

[pupucachi]

Can she fight in that skirt? She could be the crystal's human form

[Maiya Saiyado]

Pretty sure she can fight in that skirt. I mean it's been done before where girls fight in quite scandalous clothing, er, not scandalous but rather short. Like Yuna wore a skirt with a slit like all the way to her thigh and she fought, even though all she really did was summon. There's Selphie, Lulu, Rikku, Pain, Kairi (that rare lil bit in KH2), Ashe(? Not sure), and now Lightning (Forgive me if I forget others).

[pupucachi]

so Nomura really likes to design these girls with skirts!

[Maiya Saiyado]

Maybe, or it's just because it seems that the girls just seem to look better with skirts...to Nomura... I wouldn't know, haven't really seen any female characters that wear long pants or anything. Tifa wears shorts not, but she, too, wore a skirt in FFVII. Ugh, and Aerith wears a skirt and dress in different games. I think the majority wears skirts.

[Blackrazor]

Can someone gimme a link to see a picture..or maybe even a video of this "heroine" girl?
I've searched everywhere..but i cant seem to find anything

[pupucachi]

Just too many skirts here ^^. Why doesn't he try to design them without skirts? That's will more convenient. Special for the heroine

[Maiya Saiyado]

Can someone gimme a link to see a picture..or maybe even a video of this "heroine" girl?
I've searched everywhere..but i cant seem to find anything

The heroine? There hasn't been any pictures of her, if you're talking about Veruko that is (nickname for the blonde haired girl who attacks the prince).

Just too many skirts here ^^. Why doesn't he try to design them without skirts? That's will more convenient. Special for the heroine

Well, he's designed Garnet and she didn't have a skirt... But she did wear a wedding dress... Anyway, the jumpsuit thing she wore wasn't... That pretty or good looking, but everyone has different opinions so whatever. Haha, I think khakis or shorts would be a good idea.

[pupucachi]

So many things we don't know about the heroine. Her skill, her purpose, her relationship with the others... even the Prince. And the game won't be released soon for sure. I'm getting bored *sign*

[Maiya Saiyado]

Haha, that's kind of sad. We also don't even know who the heroin is. Heck, she might've not even been revealed and we could just be guessing wrong. I'm just gonna go and guess that it's probably Veruko though, because in most trailers/games the heroine and hero are usually shown in the trailers.

[Terros]

Can she fight in that skirt? She could be the crystal's human form
We could say the same thing about Veruko couldn't we? I think she can.

[Maiya Saiyado]

I don't think the woman in the logo is the heroine, honestly. I know that the logo always seems to have a connection to the story, but I think it just ties in with the myth.

[Terros]

Usually, the logo has had some direct reference to the story, like the meteor in the FF7 logo, Yuna in FF10, and so on. Therefore the woman on the logo is without a doubt a important character in the story. From what I've seen, anytime there was a person in the logo that person was an important character, like how Squall and Rinoa are on the FF8 logo.

[Misschoco]

From what I've seen, anytime there was a person in the logo that person was an important character

well maybe just once this logo is an exception to this???

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Maybe, since this game seems to shine out more brightly than the other FF games before it :ohmy:

[Terros]

I don't think so, this FF might be different from past games but I think the FF logo tradition still holds.

[pupucachi]

... So the logo of this game has something to tell us? (information 'bout the crystal maybe)

[Exire]

I'll take the guestimate that the skirt girl is one of those double agents. She's a villain of sorts to start out with but then ends up on the Prince's side. Getting some kind of information, even names would be nice. I haven't payed a lot of attention to news with the game though. Who/what is this Veruko?

[pupucachi]

Eh, we know this girl from the newest trailer released in Japan, and from the fanarts. The name Veruko is not her real name, we call her that 'cause she's in the trailer. Noone knows her true name, or the Prince's name. There's not much information 'bout the characters.

[Terros]

... So the logo of this game has something to tell us? (information 'bout the crystal maybe)
We see swords, a woman with a wing, a globe-like object on a stand of some sort behind her, and a snake/dragon-like creature, who may just be a decoration on the stand. The woman's skirt (the woman in the logo) is ripped and tattered, which means she's either been though a rough experience or she is of low standing. This is why I don't think she's a goddess. I think she may be related to to the crystal because I think the globelike object may have something to do with the crystal...all of this is of course specuation.

[pupucachi]

We see swords, a woman with a wing, a globe-like object on a stand of some sort behind her, and a snake/dragon-like creature, who may just be a decoration on the stand. The woman's skirt (the woman in the logo) is ripped and tattered, which means she's either been though a rough experience or she is of low standing. This is why I don't think she's a goddess. I think she may be related to to the crystal because I think the globelike object may have something to do with the crystal...all of this is of course specuation.

It's been a while since the last post ^_^. I remember reading these somewhere in this topic... maybe not. But everything we have now is the logo. Don't know what to say next...

[Terros]

You may have very well read my first analyisis of the logo pretaining mainly to the woman.

[pupucachi]

^^!
The crystal may create that lady. And she may share the same power with the crystal. Since the crystal gives her life, if it dies, she dies too. Or maybe she is the main reason for everything happens in the game. She can be the crystal's human form, or its soul... At least she has connection with the crystal...

[Terros]

That's my theory. The more I think about it, the more it seems to make sense.

[pupucachi]

Hey, the crystal may create both the lady and the heroine. While the lady is its soul, the heroine could be its protector... But they say the Prince protects it... hmn, seem not right =.=!

[Terros]

No one said the Prince is the only protected, you have a whole kingdom here.

[pupucachi]

^^ and no one says that whole kingdom will protect the crystal. Maybe people living in there fight each other to take the crystal. And the prince and his friends try to stop that. If the lady is one of the main characters, do u think she will stay by the Prince's side?

[BlankChocobo]

^^!
The crystal may create that lady. And she may share the same power with the crystal. Since the crystal gives her life, if it dies, she dies too. Or maybe she is the main reason for everything happens in the game. She can be the crystal's human form, or its soul... At least she has connection with the crystal...

This actually sounds very close to what Kanae and I were talking about with Lightning from FFXIII. I don't think this is true for the Veruko girl, because the stories would be too close XD But maybe Kanae and I are on the wrong track with XIII.

[pupucachi]

Oh, do your best, blanky! ^^ I really want to see the news!

[Maiya Saiyado]

Well actually, about the crystal creating the woman/heroine. In another thread, I believe, there is a theory that the prince is apart/was created from the crystal. Now, only if we knew what the crystal did, but that wouldn't fit into this. It could be that the heroine was created by the crystal, but the main character is the Prince right? And that seems to be giving a lot of spotlight to the heroine.

[pupucachi]

...
Now everyone is created by the crystal! Lol :P

[BlankChocobo]

...
Now everyone is created by the crystal! Lol :P

No, Pupu!! Everyone is the Fayths'... I mean the Crystal's DREAM! *Tidus from FFX*

XD ....

That's where the "dream" element comes in, see!?

Sorry... this was a crackpost. XD

[pupucachi]

Lol!
Can the crystal dream? I bet there'll be a lot of fun ^^!

[BlankChocobo]

Lol!
Can the crystal dream? I bet there'll be a lot of fun ^^!

I lied. That's not true at all. XD

I just made it up because it was funny, and it reminded me of FF10. ^^;

[Terros]

^^ and no one says that whole kingdom will protect the crystal. Maybe people living in there fight each other to take the crystal. And the prince and his friends try to stop that. If the lady is one of the main characters, do u think she will stay by the Prince's side?
What I meant exactly was that you had a whole kingdom to choose from, there's tons of people who could protect the crystal, theoretically anyway.

I think the crystal can create things, depending on it's form, and if it has a conciousness or not. I have a theory, what if there is only a perticular thing.

Here's my theory:

Let's say that there were different kinds of crystals, that did different things. It's implied from the info we have that the outside world may be desert right? What if there were crystals that created certain elments, wind, fire, ect.

Maybe people found out about them and started fighting over the, trying to make the crystals do what wanted (now if the crystals are in a humanoid form this makes the conflict that much greater). You know like use the crystals powers to become a world power, or something. This might be what lead up there only being one crystal left.

Now let's say the woman on the logo, or maybe the heroine, is the crystal. Say she's a water crystal, I say this because of the water in the throne room, and the water that splashes off his weapons. If the world has become a desert, this may be the main conflict, in a desert world water is power.

Sorry kinda condensed it, if something doesn't make sense I'll try to clarify.

[xThexNewxPrincex]

What I meant exactly was that you had a whole kingdom to choose from, there's tons of people who could protect the crystal, theoretically anyway.

I think the crystal can create things, depending on it's form, and if it has a conciousness or not. I have a theory, what if there is only a perticular thing.

Here's my theory:

Let's say that there were different kinds of crystals, that did different things. It's implied from the info we have that the outside world may be desert right? What if there were crystals that created certain elments, wind, fire, ect.

Maybe people found out about them and started fighting over the, trying to make the crystals do what wanted (now if the crystals are in a humanoid form this makes the conflict that much greater). You know like use the crystals powers to become a world power, or something. This might be what lead up there only being one crystal left.

Now let's say the woman on the logo, or maybe the heroine, is the crystal. Say she's a water crystal, I say this because of the water in the throne room, and the water that splashes off his weapons. If the world has become a desert, this may be the main conflict, in a desert world water is power.

Sorry kinda condensed it, if something doesn't make sense I'll try to clarify.



That actually sounds reasonable. You may be onto something, Terros ^_^

[BlankChocobo]

What I meant exactly was that you had a whole kingdom to choose from, there's tons of people who could protect the crystal, theoretically anyway.

I think the crystal can create things, depending on it's form, and if it has a conciousness or not. I have a theory, what if there is only a perticular thing.

Here's my theory:

Let's say that there were different kinds of crystals, that did different things. It's implied from the info we have that the outside world may be desert right? What if there were crystals that created certain elments, wind, fire, ect.

Maybe people found out about them and started fighting over the, trying to make the crystals do what wanted (now if the crystals are in a humanoid form this makes the conflict that much greater). You know like use the crystals powers to become a world power, or something. This might be what lead up there only being one crystal left.

Now let's say the woman on the logo, or maybe the heroine, is the crystal. Say she's a water crystal, I say this because of the water in the throne room, and the water that splashes off his weapons. If the world has become a desert, this may be the main conflict, in a desert world water is power.

Sorry kinda condensed it, if something doesn't make sense I'll try to clarify.



Ohhh wow, this is an interesting idea.... I really like it. ^_^ But how can you tie in the idea that there are peace talks being held centering on the "peaceful use" of the crystal? Is it that people can't share it peacefully that they are trying to resolve or that the actual mechanics of using the crystal for something other than violence is something I'm not sure about. If it's the former, you sound really viable. If it's the latter, I don't know how it works. @_@

[Thimien]

in all honesty since we have 2 caracters, i think sort of think... or hope....

That she has sort of a Cloud personaly, like she is drawn in to fight, but becouse she wants to... im talking out of my mouth here, couse idk if any of story is out, and what do people know right now... but i want her to be a bit darker... like he is, i think he has some sort of big major secret, hes not just protrecting a crystal... i need some good story telling, and i dont want some kids as main caracters again, like Tidus and Yuna or Van... i need some personalaty....


Think with me, when FF games had no voices, or face expressions, you could so easaly tell what they are feeling in a way... now its just a bit crap... i loved cloud and his mystiry, and Squall and his moody i dont care atittude.. couse its does things that make the game...couse you get to seee this tranformation, some how its better that way....

I couldnt stand Tidus and his imature crap, Van... theres just nothing there is there really???

FFX Auron is what makes the game good,
FFXII the story is like so wierd and stupid, you get to the end, and all you enjoyed was the hunting missions, and leveling up... but it did not satisfy me...
FFIX did more for me than all PS2 FFs did.

So this Heroine cant desapoint... i want her to be hardcore, tough and suprising...have a leader personalaty, but you never get to see any of till mid way thru the game.

Now the dude, he will cool... you can oredy taste the dark feel to the game, and the deficult choices ahead... Becouse what is an RPG in the end, your meant to feel your playing that Role... and at the end of a game feel you did it all...

The End...