The Logo... Serious Analysis & Speculation

[Pulse]

Okay, I have done some major analysis of the logo's of the whole Fabula Nova Crystallis compilation so far, I would really like some feedback on the ideas I have come up with.

First of all, I will start with Final Fantasy XIII.

Here is the logo in all its glory to begin with.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/logo7.jpg

I have basically disected the logo and made my ideas from there.

First of all, this in my oppinion is lightning, if you look at the neck area, her jacket matches the outline of her costume design, the strands of hair and stuff sort of match too, so I am assuming it is her.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/Lightning.jpg

Then theres this guy...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/Blondehairedguy.jpg

I dont think this is the blonde haired character we have seen recently, as if you look at the picture above, the fringe is pointed upwards, and is really stuck out. I think this might be another character possibly, and also it looks a bit feminine? Possibly a female character?

I found something very interesting when I disected this next bit of the logo.... it looks like some sort of horse... or a unicorn.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/LogoNotext.jpg

It may even be a summon, but you can definety see it is a horse shaped creature.... if there is such a thing haha.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/Unicorn.jpg

Aswell as that in the logo you can see that the possible female character other than lightning is riding the actual 'horse'. I have cut out the shape below...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/ridingtheunicorn.gif

If you look just above the X from XIII you can see a foot, and then in the bottom right hand side of the image you can see a hand, this in my oppinion means that they are riding the 'horse' thing. But it could be a unicorn thing.

At first I THOUGHT that the cape from the girl riding the 'horse' was a wing, and I was going to suggest that the characters were being protrayed as god like, almost like hercules riding pegasus. But it was just a theory.

More to come in the other threads, please leave comments on this I would love to hear what everyone else is thinking, because I am buzzing with ideas.

Josh x

[Neal]

Wow, good analysis. :P I never noticed the horse before, but now you mention it its so obvious XD

[Xion]

very good analysis..

i speculate that the people in the logo simbolize shiva as a trojan horse...(hence how it seems to go from one to another to a horse like being)

shive does turn into a motorcicle..anyway, hard to tell anything when we know so little about the game..but the past logo's were much easier to disect, thats for shure :lol:

[Enedok]

Nice analyze, but I got to admit that the second image is more a girl then a boy IMO

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Henrik/LOKALE%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/Blondehairedguy.jpg

Your right that she could be riding the horse, Never seen the shape of the body before.

[S-r-ex]

now, looking at the versus logo:

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looking at the logo, we see it is dark like the nigth, with a sleeping woman

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behind this woman is a moon, enveloping her head like a halo, with light beaming out, furtherly telling that it is night

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looking here, we see her knee sticking out from beneath the cloathing. below where her foot would be, wee see a triangular, ring-like object, similar to what Shiva in FFX had in her hair, suggesting that this might be Shiva sleeping here.

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al last, we see this dragon-like thingie, here rotated to see it more easily

[Yin&Yang]

Hey - http://forums.finalfantasy-xiii.net/showthread.php?t=516 You missed this?

[Desi]

Hey - http://forums.finalfantasy-xiii.net/showthread.php?t=516 You missed this?
Haha I was just about to link to that. You know that is my job!

Anyway, hopefully the spiky haired person(woman) is the female lead they keep speaking of.

[S-r-ex]

well, those are my opinions <_< ...

[Pulse]

well, those are my opinions <_< ...

What, your oppinions are the same as mine? lol

I'm trying to think of some more of what the logo could represent because they are clearly thinking along the lines of latin... so could it be something in latin ancient culture or something? I will research and be back lol

Josh x

[Flint]

I think the 'horse thing' could be a new version of the summon Leviathan. Or possibly Ixion from FFX.

The two characters and the 'horse' appear to be circling some kind of round 'thing', perhaps a globe representing the world of FFXIII? I like Josh's idea that the two characters are portrayed as god-like - wasn't Lightning chosen by the crystal (which I assume is a God like entity) to be the one to destroy the world? Could the globe be Pulse? Or Cocoon?

Maybe the other character is an enemy, perhaps from the same origin as Lightning. It could be that the image depicts the battle between the two characters, with the horse representing some kind of elemental power shared between them, and the globe indicating that the conflict will decide the fate of the world.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. If I come up with any other theories I'll post them here.

[Wind]

I assumed for the XIII logo that there was a change in character. Which is why it went from person, to perhaps hybrid or realization. Then the horse would mean true direction.

My reason for this is its in a circle and descending. If you look again it appears like a timeline. Like that spike or horn would represent the end or end result of something.

Also my reason for saying the girl goes to the horse is because if you look at the middle person, the hair has "grown" in the same pattern as the horse.

But thats my 2 cents.

[Pulse]

I see what u mean wind... could it be something pointing towards lightnings past do you think? The spike could just be a representation of lightning herself and that transformed or descended from this horselike creature into the character that appears like a queen to the normal pesrson at the top....???

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/LogoNotext.jpg

Anybody else agree... just go anti clockwise...

Josh

[Käthe]

My own analasis.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5250/64447113mv1.png
Many people have come to the conclusion that this is possibly Lighting herself,, yet it could possibly be something other than a character.
After looking (staring intentivly for 2 hours) i've made my own conclusion that its is a personification of the flying world known as Cocoon.
Dispite the fact it has characteristics that could point it towards a character, i would beg to differ.

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4682/51827500bd5.png
The head of Cocoon could represent the ship/flying world itself, with having the hair flow backwards, it could say the head is moving or flowing in the wind, and with it over a circle in the logo which could be said to be turning, it could mean Cocoon is falling, as said in an interview that Cocoon is increasing falling into the world of Pulse and is frequently under more attack of Pulses inhabitants. This is just a summary, whether or not it is true, but these are my strong opinions on the logo itself.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9355/73853083sl1.png
A possible personification of Pulse.
Itself, being below Cocoon could be a representation of the world.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5639/80808122rm0.png
I recently noticed that this odd figure on the side of the head of 'Pulse' could possibly be Pulses City itself, it doesn't seem to fit to the hair very well in my opinion so i could safely say its Pulses city perched on the side of its head.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2738/60766742ld9.png
Im not entirly sure what the horse could represent yet, i haven't really came to any conclusion on what it represents or means so im going to have to leave it out of aynalasis.

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9318/92570558qt0.png
This is where i feel Lighting herself comes into the logo, this could be a representation of her in lighting form.
At the top of the figure it seems it has also been personified in some way, with charaterists such as the hair of the figure seems to relate to Lightings herself, even though the figure of Lighting has no physical features apart from a lighting strike and a possible feature, i could say this is possibly a representation of Lighting.

[Pulse]

To be honest, its a good analysis, but I think they are actually characters from within the game and some of your theories are slightly far fetched.

Josh

[Flint]

Josh - I like your thinking about the FFXIII logo but do you have any theories about the Fabula Nova Crystallis logo?

I think it could be possible that the figure depicted in the logo could be some kind of personification of the crystal itself - perhaps this new 'crystal' is actually more of a god-like being rather than an object?

Even if my assumption is incorrect, I assume the character must have some kind of overall importance to all the FNC games, otherwise why would it be in the logo? Considering that the games are each supposed to be set in different worlds, could this character somehow appear in each game?

[Käthe]

Some of my thoughts seemed farfetched, but i think the story is more than the characters itself, well its pretty much based around the crystals mythologly really, so its more based on the world itself, this is how i found a conclusion rather than making asumptions that every person in the logo is a character.

[Yin&Yang]

From what I see all the 4 logos feature some sort of crystal and since they have the ability to think and create they have been shown as human.
XIII - There are separate crystals in Pulse and Cocoon so these characters might be the crystals. Then again it's the only one missing the blue globe.
Agito - the crystal brakes into 2 pieces.
Versus - the world is in slumber.
And also FNC - a very clear personification.

[Becko]

The horse like creature could be "Kirin" which appeared as a horse like creature in FF6 (see img below)

Kirin FFVI Esper (http://www.ffonline.com/1_ff6gfx/6-esper-kirin.gif)

But then again Kirin (FFVI) has 2 horns and dragon-like neck...

So dunno if this FFXIII logo-horse is a summon, Kirin, or an unicorn, but obviously its appearence in the logo must indicate an essential role,

[Becko]

Thinking about it twice I just rememberd that there's an Esper (or summon) in FF6 called "Unicorn"

Unicorn Esper FFVI (http://www.ffonline.com/1_ff6gfx/6-esper-unicorn.gif)

So if FF13 logo horse like creature is indeed an unicorn then this would be the second time throughout the FF series we see one appear, this time with a bigger role due its logo appeareance.

I'm pretty sure the horse like creature must be an Unicorn and not a horse... horses are banned in FF beacuse there are already chocobos that work as horses,,, (the only horse that have ever appeared in FF is Odin's horse), unicorns aren't banned as it's proved in FF6

[Tzailor-muun]

Maybe the globe thing on the XIII logo represents the world in XIII? Cocoon and Pulse i mean. Like, the unicorn thing is down and upside down, and the two persons are on the upper side. Maybe the two persons are lightning and Blonde haired guy? Just a wild speculation.

[_Versus_]

Maybe the globe thing on the XIII logo represents the world in XIII? Cocoon and Pulse i mean. Like, the unicorn thing is down and upside down, and the two persons are on the upper side. Maybe the two persons are lightning and Blonde haired guy? Just a wild speculation.



Very curious. This is very possible ...

[Devious]

You know, it seems as though the cocky-looking woman and unicorn are nurturing the little glowing globe in the middle, while the other woman looks like she is part of the first woman. Like an alter ego. Or maybe everyone here is over-analysing it and Square and Nomura just thought it looked cool.

[balthierxashe]

"Or maybe everyone here is over-analysing it and Square and Nomura just thought it looked cool." -Domino

Lol, that would be beautiful

So I'm just going to say what first came to mind when I saw the logo...maybe the first character, whether it be Lightning or not, is transforming, sort of how Terra did in FF6?

Also...if I've done something wrong, like not quoted correctly it's because I'm very new to this so I apologize for any further...accidents? Haha

[Flint]

So I'm just going to say what first came to mind when I saw the logo...maybe the first character, whether it be Lightning or not, is transforming, sort of how Terra did in FF6?

That's a good theory, maybe Lightning can change form during battle? Could be like Terra as you say, or perhaps like Vincent's limit break in FF7? Perhaps that's what happens when you enter 'overclock' status...

[Misschoco]

That's a good theory, maybe Lightning can change form during battle? Could be like Terra as you say, or perhaps like Vincent's limit break in FF7? Perhaps that's what happens when you enter 'overclock' status...
........and with what you said im suggesting lightning can change form because of the crystal from pulse

it simpler words she derives her power from the pulse crystal

[balthierxashe]

it all sounds good to me, lol

[Devious]

I just played FFX and another theory came to me. One of the Aeons you get is called Ixion, who's a horse. Aha. And also, Ixion's element is Thunder, a.k.a. Lightning. Double aha. So maybe Lightning can transform into a Summon/Esper/Aeon, Ixion being the most prominent?

[Misschoco]

So maybe Lightning can transform into a Summon/Esper/Aeon, Ixion being the most prominent?
........or lightning has something that could transform into the above

cause otherwise she would seem very inhuman ;)

[Terros]

"Or maybe everyone here is over-analysing it and Square and Nomura just thought it looked cool." -Domino


I don't think so, Square has ALWASY hinted at something in the logo.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

........or lightning has something that could transform into the above

cause otherwise she would seem very inhuman ;)

But very cool and awesome *sighs* Why can't Square just release another trailer so we don't have to blindly guess? >_<

[Terros]

Yes blindly guessing can get us WAY off from the truth. It's not like we have info that we could use to make some really plausible speculations that would have some ground.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yes blindly guessing can get us WAY off from the truth. It's not like we have info that we could use to make some really plausible speculations that would have some ground.

7 months till next year! :'(

[Terros]

Just gonna have to bear it.

[Misschoco]

Yes blindly guessing can get us WAY off from the truth. It's not like we have info that we could use to make some really plausible speculations that would have some ground.

thats how we also manage to get rumours.some way off from the truth...........

[Terros]

True as well.

[Pulse]

Well the whole thread is about speculation, and if nobody speculated about things like this there really wouldn't be much to talk about except the trailer. but even then all you could talk about is the character design and concrete stuff like that. Ah well, cant wait for more solid info.

Josh

[Terros]

True.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

thats how we also manage to get rumours.some way off from the truth...........

Rumors are actually where we get our predictions and stuff...darts, I hope I get more news about FFXIII when I visit Taiwan this summer from my cousin (the video game freak <_<)

[Pulse]

Well i am sure we will get more to speculate around after the SE Party tomorrow. Truly excited about it! :)

Josh

[Misschoco]

Rumors are actually where we get our predictions and stuff...darts, I hope I get more news about FFXIII when I visit Taiwan this summer from my cousin (the video game freak <_<)

..and thats why both good and bad things can arise from predictions

Well i am sure we will get more to speculate around after the SE Party tomorrow. Truly excited about it! :)

Josh

*hyped*

[Pulse]

*hyped*

Hyped it may be... but information and footage it will hopefully bring.... * stops talking like yoda.... puts down the lightsabre..... aaaaaaaaaaaaaannnd calm*

Josh

[mochaccino]

Holy sht. I didn't notice that horse before. I always thought it was three ladies. It's totally possible that the horse is a summon, like Ixion or something. ._.

[masamune]

i thing the globe represents the world. The surface of the globe is in change, passing of something human to something more wild, and this means the change of the world (the thing about cocoon is falling to pulse). The representation of the change is strenghten by the descrition of Lightning as a "instrumental force of change". Instrumental may mean the she is being used as a tool for something (maybe the own world/crystal), and this aspect is represented in the logo by the "lightning symbol" suporting the globe.
I really don't think the horse-like creature is a summon, nor that the "humans-like" are characters.

[Misschoco]

Instrumental may mean the she is being used as a tool for something (maybe the own world/crystal), and this aspect is represented in the logo by the "lightning symbol" suporting the globe.
I really don't think the horse-like creature is a summon, nor that the "humans-like" are characters.
by used.shes being used by pulse to bring destruction to cocoon which evidently she was banished from

[XwingsofaresX]

these logos have a lot in common:lol:
one thing i noticed were these orbs or spheres located on each of the logos...im all thats weird. just thought it be a weird idea. i think someone already noticed.^_^

[FFCrazy90]

actually i think that they "guy" is lightning. because the thing you thought was the wing of the horse is lightnings pink cape.
thats just my opinion but its a good analysis

[lathandien]

Nice analyze, but I got to admit that the second image is more a girl then a boy IMO

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Henrik/LOKALE%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/Blondehairedguy.jpg

Your right that she could be riding the horse, Never seen the shape of the body before.

i'd have to agree with the guy to the girl thing... i mean, just look at her eyelashes! they are huge!

[Terros]

I think it's woman too.

[razenhavoc]

Theres no way that can be a guy, its way to delicate looking, unless SE has decided to take a page from Baz Luhrman's "priscilla, queen of the desert"

Originally Posted by Enedok http://forums.finalfantasy-xiii.net/images/dark_vb_v2/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.finalfantasy-xiii.net/showthread.php?p=6415#post6415)
Nice analyze, but I got to admit that the second image is more a girl then a boy IMO

file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Henrik/LOKALE%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/Joshua0405/Blondehairedguy.jpg

Your right that she could be riding the horse, Never seen the shape of the body before.


It looks more like shes transforming into the unicorn, IMO. If you look at the second picture she has adopted some of the features of the unicorn while retaining the features of the woman.

[Misschoco]

Theres no way that can be a guy
unless of course its androgynous which a hell of a lot of characters seem to be *points to kadaj*

[razenhavoc]

yes, but he managed to retain his masculinity.....to a a degree.

[Pulse]

Why do newbies feel the need to bump old threads??? LOL

Anyways, this thread has been done to death in my oppinion, and it will be closed until we get any new information from square enix regarding something that may be in this logo.

Josh x

*THREAD CLOSED TEMPORARILY*