Versus main character and plot/story

[Misschoco]

What does anyone think the game plot/story will be and the main characters personality?

Looking for opinions here, not that i dont have any ^_^

heres a site though for those wanting to know the real story and not someone elses opinion

http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/final-fantasy-versus-xiii.php

apparently the story is really tragic and sad and the main themes of the game are bonding and frienship. well thats what the creators stated in an interview.
And to anyone who thought the main character looked depressed on the throne at the beginning of the trailer he wasnt he was jus resting/sleeping and was disturbed/awoken by some sound outside.

[Kitmitsu]

Merged the posts and moved to Versus forum, best suited here :)

Well the actual storyline we have so far is mostly the background but yes it is supposed to be really tragic and make us cry :P He does look like hes just been disturbed and when he gets up and see's all his dead (what we assume) friends or guards he doesnt look really depressed, just straight faced. Well I actually can't imagine what the game is actually going to involve. Obviously fighting off enemies trying to get a crystal but I dont know what else could happen, we need more story :P

[Misschoco]

we do need more story why is square keeping all the details from us?

[Hextan]

Yeah he doesn't appear to have much emotion at all. He pretty much keeps a straight face the whole time. Even when he grabs the sword and lunges towards the enemy he still has almost no emotion while he is doing it. Of course being a Square Enix game the guy will probably go through events and change and develop into a slightly better person. Maybe, a lot of square games have lots of character development in them. It's the reason why we love them so much.

[Desi]

We know that too. You seem to keep posting things we already have.

[XwingsofaresX]

well...im not one to say much...but maybe the protagonist is, in a way, similar to Cloud from Advent Children...however, from what i hear, he might have some sort of an emotional background...who knows?

^_^

[Storm]

From what I hear his name is Storm, Which would make sence because The girl's name from the regular FF XIII is supous to be Lightning...

[Misschoco]

cloud was sorta allways thinking about his emotions which made him neva listen to people and he was slightly weak in his emotional state only,
i think the main character of this game dosent seem like his gonna be like cloud in personality, he might be arrogant but not as emotionally weak as cloud.

[KeanBurke]

I don't know that guy seems pretty powerful. I dont remember starting out any FF games where the main characters were really powerful and has that many weapons. Maybe he loses all but one of those weapons at the beginning of the game. Maybe those weapons are the source of his powers?

[Desi]

The strongest character I remember starting off with in a FF game was Cecil at level 10. Well Ramza was level 11 before the flashback but you could get him higher then that in the flashback(his level changes to reflect this) so if you count Tactics, Ramza.

[KeanBurke]

Have you guys checked the updates on ign.com? See just as I said, from the trailer I got the impression that he is too powerful, and they said you dont start out with all those weapons. They also said his eyes change colors during combat, and it is possible to change to other colors like green, that is fucking cool.

[Yin&Yang]

One point of interest in the trailer regards the main character's eyes and features, which seem to change based on his moves. During battle, his eyes are red, and when he darts from place to place, his hair flashes white. Director Tetsuya Nomura revealed to the magazine that, while nothing has been confirmed, it's possible that his eyes will change to other colors as well, including green.
I hope it won't look like "Ultraviolet"

[Misschoco]

like a chameleon lol i think this guy gets his powers from the crystals

[Enedok]

like a chameleon lol i think this guy gets his powers from the crystals
I think its more to it. It's plausible, but its somehow don't feel right that the crystals can alter the body like that.

(in other FF games, yes, but it dont feel right this time)

[Misschoco]

Maybe he had some training before in weaponry or possibly this powers run in his family since they own a kingdom they must be powerful

[Yin&Yang]

...the real him was still in slumber...
If hes body is like a ghost teleportation (If the blue stuff attached to his weapon is a crystal and he can teleport to where his sword is) and changing hair is plausible.

[XwingsofaresX]

If hes body is like a ghost teleportation (If the blue stuff attached to his weapon is a crystal and he can teleport to where his sword is) and changing hair is plausible.


im thinking the same thing.

maybe if these crystals CAN alter his powers and appearance...^_^

[erutwrtu]

thinking can not be enough anyway...

[Misschoco]

it never is enough <_<

[Fenristh]

I dunno if he will look right with white hair. ;(

*6000th post*

[Misschoco]

its only white for a split second whilst he teleports

[XwingsofaresX]

thats nice.^_^

[Misschoco]

They also said his eyes change colors during combat, and it is possible to change to other colors like green, that is fucking cool.

lol thats cool but i prefer his eyes just turning red,
i jus relised my eye colour is slightly similar to versus guy when it not red

brown+versus guy eye colour(before it turns red)=my eye colour ^_^

[XwingsofaresX]

wow...interesting...^_^

[Yin&Yang]

im thinking the same thing.

maybe if these crystals CAN alter his powers and appearance...^_^
I wasn't talking about the crystals, I thought that his isn't real and thats why teleportation is easy for him. it turns out the crystal he protects is hidden in the room he was sleeping in the trailer

[Enedok]

I wasn't talking about the crystals, I thought that his isn't real and thats why teleportation is easy for him. it turns out the crystal he protects is hidden in the room he was sleeping in the trailer

So you think he is an illusion?

[Yin&Yang]

yeah, and his real body sleeps somewhere. The whole world is supposed to be in slumber, why can't he?

[XwingsofaresX]

i think that the main character IS the crystal...or becomes the crystal at some point in the story...i dont know.

[Firewolf]

that be a real twist really awsome at some point maybe that character as to die so that the crystal can be awaken

[Pulse]

One of the theories I had was that the crystal is stolen so he loses his powers and thats how he ends up at the start of the game. OR that the crystal is broken into alot of pieces and as you collect the pieces you gain more power?

Its just a theory.

Josh

[Firewolf]

that sounds intersting do u think they'll be a love story between the main character and heroine

[Pulse]

This may sound awful, but I think that the female character will be a love interest and die in a really awful fight sequence, I think it would be so tragic just like Nomura promised.

Josh

[Firewolf]

that is awful but what if the main character has to die so that the crystal can be awaken or sumthin maybe he kills the heroine or sumthin

[Pulse]

Well i think it would be far too much of a step for Square Enix to have one of its protagonists kill the other.... but what the heck lol Yeah, I really think Square Enix are gunna go all out with the tragedy and I say bring it, the darker the better. We need a darker final fantasy. << Just finished playing dirge of cerberus and it rocked lol

Josh x

[Anima]

Thats what I was thinking in school today..about him dieing and the crystal waking up. I wonder if he really is the crystal O.o But I think thats what gives him his powers because his swords have the crystal shards in them and he teleports to them not just a random spot so maybe he is connected to them somehow, and without them he'd be powerless. I'd actually like to see what he looks like with white hair and green eyes ^^ (maybe he'll get blue eyes or even ...gold <3) As for the love thing....I think Tetsuya Nomura said something about there not being any love story in this game just a plain action theme :P I think he and the girl will just form a strong friendship sence one of the key themes in this game is "bonding" and "friendship" Just my guess tho D:
I bet you that girl will be his only friend/love intrest and then die a pain full death a the end and then he'd have to live life with out her.....or maybe they both die like in the Shakespear play?
Oh and while we're discussing the crystal I came up with another idea in the translated version of the versus song it says something close to a Kingdom being locked in an eternal night...do you think thats why its always night with a full moon in the scans/trailer....and maybe when the crystal wakes up it will be day again. Another tragity could be the Prince never knowing what the sun looks/ feels like and dieing just before the sun rises..that'd be sad :(

[Firewolf]

maybe the tragic thing in the game can bring something good

[Misschoco]

yes but you still get a dead protaganist now thats just gona make me cry.
The crystals are in the pillar that are behind the throne, so its not him.

[Xion]

yes but you still get a dead protaganist now thats just gona make me cry.
The crystals are in the pillar that are behind the throne, so its not him.


maybe he is a creation of the crystal..i mean he can command these weapons, has glowing eyes, and all that stuff..maybe he was made by the crystal and is linked to it in that way...that's perfectly feasable :nod:

idk, but Versus XIII is just so interesting in every way, cant wait for more on it :crazy:


"Well i think it would be far too much of a step for Square Enix to have one of its protagonists kill the other.... but what the heck lol Yeah, I really think Square Enix are gunna go all out with the tragedy and I say bring it, the darker the better."


remeber in Chrono Cross, Serge (well Linx, but still) did stab Kid...its not so far fetched

" I'd actually like to see what he looks like with white hair and green eyes "

they said his hair will "flash" white when he teleports, so it will only be for a second, then go back to its regular color.

[Pulse]

Well one of my theories is based around the fact that the Shakespeare quote may not be so random???? Because the shakespeare quote is from Hamlet. Here is the Hamlet story below....

Hamlet is the son of the late King Hamlet (of Denmark), who died two months before the start of the play. After King Hamlet's death, his brother, Claudius, becomes king, and marries King Hamlet's widow, Gertrude (Queen of Denmark). Young Hamlet fears that Claudius killed his own brother (Hamlet's father) to become king of Denmark, greatly angering Hamlet. Two officers, Marcellus and Barnardo, summon Hamlet's friend Horatio, and later Hamlet himself to see the late King Hamlet's ghost appear at midnight. The ghost tells Hamlet privately that Claudius had indeed murdered King Hamlet by pouring poison in his ear. Hamlet is further enraged and plots of how to revenge his father's death.

In his anger, Hamlet seems to act like a madman, prompting King Claudius, his wife Gertrude, and his advisor Polonius to send Rosencrantz and Guildenstern to spy on Hamlet and figure out why he is acting mad. Hamlet even treats Polonius' daughter Ophelia rudely, prompting Polonius to believe Hamlet is madly in love with her, though Claudius expects otherwise. Polonius, a man who talks too long- windedly, had allowed his son Laertes to go to France (then sent Reynaldo to spy on Laertes) and had ordered Ophelia not to associate with Hamlet. Claudius, fearing Hamlet may try to kill him, sends Hamlet to England. Before leaving, however, Hamlet convinces an acting company to reenact King Hamlet's death before Claudius, in the hopes of causing Claudius to break down and admit to murdering King Hamlet. Though Claudius is enraged, he does not admit to murder. Hamlet's mother tries to reason with Hamlet after the play, while Polonius spied on them from behind a curtain. Hamlet hears Polonius, and kills him through the curtain, thinking the person is Claudius. When finding out the truth, Hamlet regrets the death, yet Claudius still sends him to England, accompanied by Rosencrantz and Guildenstern with orders from Claudius that the English kill Hamlet as soon as her arrives.

After Hamlet leaves, Laertes returns from France, enraged over Polonius' death. Ophelia reacts to her father's death with utter madness and eventually falls in a stream and drowns, further angering Laertes. En route to England, Hamlet finds the orders and changes them to order Rosencrantz and Guildenstern killed, as does occur, though Hamlet is kidnapped by pirates one day later. The pirates return Hamlet to Claudius (for a ransom), and Claudius tries one last attempt to eliminate Hamlet: he arranges a sword duel between Laertes and Hamlet. The trick, however, is that the tip of Laertes' sword is poisoned. As a backup precaution, Claudius poisons the victory cup in case Hamlet wins. During the fight, the poisoned drink is offered to Hamlet, he declines, and instead his mother, Gertrude, drinks it (to the objection of Claudius). Laertes, losing to Hamlet, illegally scratches him with the poisoned sword to ensure Hamlet's death. Hamlet (unknowingly), then switches swords with Laertes, and cuts and poisons him. The queen dies, screaming that she has been poisoned and Laertes, dying, admits of Claudius' treachery. Weakening, Hamlet fatally stabs Claudius, Laertes dies, and Hamlet begins his death speech. Though Horatio wants to commit suicide out of sorrow, Hamlet entreats him to tell the story of King Hamlet's death and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern's deaths to all. Fortinbras, the prince of Norway, arrives from conquest of England, and Hamlet's last dying wish is that Fortinbras become the new King of Denmark, as happens.


Okay so what I am thinking is the Versus story goes something like the above... obviously in true Final Fantasy style with a hell lot of action splurged in between....?

Any takers?

Josh

[Anima]

Well one of my theories is based around the fact that the Shakespeare quote may not be so random???? Because the shakespeare quote is from Hamlet. Here is the Hamlet story below....

Hamlet is the son of the late King Hamlet (of Denmark), who died two months before the start of the play. After King Hamlet's death, his brother, Claudius, becomes king, and marries King Hamlet's widow, Gertrude (Queen of Denmark). Young Hamlet fears that Claudius killed his own brother (Hamlet's father) to become king of Denmark, greatly angering Hamlet. Two officers, Marcellus and Barnardo, summon Hamlet's friend Horatio, and later Hamlet himself to see the late King Hamlet's ghost appear at midnight. The ghost tells Hamlet privately that Claudius had indeed murdered King Hamlet by pouring poison in his ear. Hamlet is further enraged and plots of how to revenge his father's death.

In his anger, Hamlet seems to act like a madman, prompting King Claudius, his wife Gertrude, and his advisor Polonius to send Rosencrantz and Guildenstern to spy on Hamlet and figure out why he is acting mad. Hamlet even treats Polonius' daughter Ophelia rudely, prompting Polonius to believe Hamlet is madly in love with her, though Claudius expects otherwise. Polonius, a man who talks too long- windedly, had allowed his son Laertes to go to France (then sent Reynaldo to spy on Laertes) and had ordered Ophelia not to associate with Hamlet. Claudius, fearing Hamlet may try to kill him, sends Hamlet to England. Before leaving, however, Hamlet convinces an acting company to reenact King Hamlet's death before Claudius, in the hopes of causing Claudius to break down and admit to murdering King Hamlet. Though Claudius is enraged, he does not admit to murder. Hamlet's mother tries to reason with Hamlet after the play, while Polonius spied on them from behind a curtain. Hamlet hears Polonius, and kills him through the curtain, thinking the person is Claudius. When finding out the truth, Hamlet regrets the death, yet Claudius still sends him to England, accompanied by Rosencrantz and Guildenstern with orders from Claudius that the English kill Hamlet as soon as her arrives.

After Hamlet leaves, Laertes returns from France, enraged over Polonius' death. Ophelia reacts to her father's death with utter madness and eventually falls in a stream and drowns, further angering Laertes. En route to England, Hamlet finds the orders and changes them to order Rosencrantz and Guildenstern killed, as does occur, though Hamlet is kidnapped by pirates one day later. The pirates return Hamlet to Claudius (for a ransom), and Claudius tries one last attempt to eliminate Hamlet: he arranges a sword duel between Laertes and Hamlet. The trick, however, is that the tip of Laertes' sword is poisoned. As a backup precaution, Claudius poisons the victory cup in case Hamlet wins. During the fight, the poisoned drink is offered to Hamlet, he declines, and instead his mother, Gertrude, drinks it (to the objection of Claudius). Laertes, losing to Hamlet, illegally scratches him with the poisoned sword to ensure Hamlet's death. Hamlet (unknowingly), then switches swords with Laertes, and cuts and poisons him. The queen dies, screaming that she has been poisoned and Laertes, dying, admits of Claudius' treachery. Weakening, Hamlet fatally stabs Claudius, Laertes dies, and Hamlet begins his death speech. Though Horatio wants to commit suicide out of sorrow, Hamlet entreats him to tell the story of King Hamlet's death and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern's deaths to all. Fortinbras, the prince of Norway, arrives from conquest of England, and Hamlet's last dying wish is that Fortinbras become the new King of Denmark, as happens.


Okay so what I am thinking is the Versus story goes something like the above... obviously in true Final Fantasy style with a hell lot of action splurged in between....?

Any takers?

Josh


Wow that sounds very interesting..I didn't read all of it mind you, but from what I did read I liked. Maybe the story will play out like that.....
That reminds me....FFXIII is an isolated city that tries to protect its people from the out side world. And the city is useing advanced technology while the "outerworld" uses less advanced things.....sound fimilliar ...yea its just like versus' world only a diffrent setting versus= modern day Japan like city and a outer world we have yet to see. FFXIII= a flying airship like city and a forest like world. Just thought I'd point that out since i'm sooooooooo bored and my mind likes to wander...sry if this has no real importance. ^^;

[Pulse]

Well I do believe that Square Enix are lying through their arses when they say these games aren't connected, they soooooo must be through one way or another you know i'm right.

Josh

[Enedok]

Well I do believe that Square Enix are lying through their arses when they say these games aren't connected, they soooooo must be through one way or another you know i'm right.

Josh

How? What make you say so? I have yet to see any connection except yhat SE said it is. It could have been FFXIII and FFIV if I didn't know that info.

[Misschoco]

the connection is the mythology behind the new games

[Wind]

I figure its too early to say right now but if they are connected, then its possible that this story is in some way against XIII.

Meaning perhaps that there are different agendas about a certain issue, and depending on what it is, there is no good or evil about it. Just different stands trying to get resolved by various people.

[Misschoco]

I figure its too early to say right now but if they are connected, then its possible that this story is in some way against XIII.


the mythology behind the crystals is what connects them nomura said it himself

[Enedok]

the mythology behind the crystals is what connects them nomura said it himself

Thank you, we know that now. We discuss if it is the same world.

Like if we see a statue in Versus its the same statue in FFXIII.

[Anima]

Well what I was trying to point out is both games have similar concepts like I stated before they are both isolated cities trying to protect the crystal from outside forces...thats all XD and also if you notice both of those cities have very advanced technology while the outside areas have little or less advanced science....just a mention.

[Pulse]

Yeah, thats where I am coming from. I mean, I just dont understand why they wouldn't have made it Final Fantasy XIV If they weren't connected. I mean I understand that its a compilation like FFVII, but they were all part of the same world on the same timeline so maybe its the same for Final Fantasy XIII.

Josh

[Flint]

I don't believe FFXIII and Versus are set in the same world, they are just based on the same initial concept. I liken it to English lessons at school when the teacher would set the class the task of writing a story about a certain subject or topic - you'd get 25 different stories, but they would all be based around that same starting point. So for FF the crystal myth is the starting point and two teams are each making a game based on that same idea.

I like the idea that FFXIII and Versus are kind of like opposites to eachother (I think one article said FFXIII was light whereas Versus was darkness, or something like that). It will be very interesting to see how the storylines of each game compare, I get the impression that FFXIII will follow the traditional values of the FF series and Versus will explore a different, darker and perhaps more controversial morality. It's been suggested that the main character in Versus could actually be a bad guy which would make for an excellent change of pace for the series.

[Misschoco]

I like the idea that FFXIII and Versus are kind of like opposites to eachother (I think one article said FFXIII was light whereas Versus was darkness, or something like that). It will be very interesting to see how the storylines of each game compare, I get the impression that FFXIII will follow the traditional values of the FF series and Versus will explore a different, darker and perhaps more controversial morality. It's been suggested that the main character in Versus could actually be a bad guy which would make for an excellent change of pace for the series.
the thing you said about the main character in versus being the bad guy was speculated on another forum about 2 months ago.

thats quite unlikely actually impossible, the main character is protecting the crystals from the outside world. his for definite the good protaganist.

i think nomura mentioned somewhere that ffxiii was the one that would break traditional values of ff games, or was it both games?

[Flint]

the thing you said about the main character in versus being the bad guy was speculated on another forum about 2 months ago.

thats quite unlikely actually impossible, the main character is protecting the crystals from the outside world. his for definite the good protaganist.

But is he protecting the crystals though? That's what we assume, but he could simply be hoarding them for the good of his own nation, at the expense of the rest of the world. The crystals apparently bring prosperity and by keeping them for his own country he could be trying to solidify his nation as the dominant world power.

Remember that one man's good is another man's evil. It's all a matter of viewpoint. Seen from the point of view of the outsiders, our main character would probably be considered to be an evil bad guy who must be stopped for the sake of the world.

I don't think enough is known about the characters or story to be able to make any definite judgements yet, but it's fun to speculate about what might happen, isn't it?

i think nomura mentioned somewhere that ffxiii was the one that would break traditional values of ff games, or was it both games?

You could be right about this, although I can't remember which interview it's from. I definitely remember reading one interview where Nomura said Versus was a lot darker than the usual FF games.

[Momo]

I cannot remeber where I Read this but it was mentioned that the outside nations were focussing on weapons for war, and they were using crystals from conqured nations just to continue making weapons for war. Instead of puting all their effort into making a better civialization for it's people.

Perhaps they got support from all those outside nations to attack the royal family, using that nation as a scapegoat, for taking responsibility for the outsides nations current state. when it's their own doing truthfully. they're hiding it and pointing the finger. I'm not saying this as the plot, just as another reason for them attacking, alongside that fact they are the last nation with a crystal.
Just a thought. If I find where i saw that again I'll give link if we dont actually have it already.

[Terros]

The trailer had a line from Shakespear's play...Hamlet was? Maybe we can make some guesses about the story by analyzing that play...

[Misschoco]

The trailer had a line from Shakespear's play...Hamlet was? Maybe we can make some guesses about the story by analyzing that play...
hamlet was a tragedy -_-

heres a quote from wikipedia about its themes
Hamlet is a tragedy of the "revenge" genre, in which the title character, and two other characters as well, seek revenge for their father's deaths. It incorporates other major human themes, including love, justice, good and evil, and most notably, madness.

now i can already see something coming through here...............

[Terros]

Yep, also, it may imply a little about Storms(??) relationship with possibly with the female character. Hamlet often took out his fustration with his mother on his girlfriend over what happened.

Goody, we just happen to be reading this play in english!

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yep, also, it may imply a little about Storms(??) relationship with possibly with the female character. Hamlet often took out his fustration with his mother on his girlfriend over what happened.



Yes! Romance! I've always thought Storm was a quiet person and only like a certain female character can convince him to talk or make a decision :P

[Terros]

Yes! Romance! I've always thought Storm was a quiet person and only like a certain female character can convince him to talk or make a decision :P

Well not necessarily romance, more like misdirected rage. Reffering back to Hamlet, Storm(??) may have a beef, with a perticular female character because she reminds him of some way of another woman...I'll got into what I mean when I can analyze more of Hamlet, so please be patient.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Well not necessarily romance, more like misdirected rage. Reffering back to Hamlet, Storm(??) may have a beef, with a perticular female character because she reminds him of some way of another woman...I'll got into what I mean when I can analyze more of Hamlet, so please be patient.

Aww crackers, Storm looks like the controlled type ^_^

[Desi]

Well not necessarily romance, more like misdirected rage. Reffering back to Hamlet, Storm(??) may have a beef, with a perticular female character because she reminds him of some way of another woman...
For people that haven't read Hamlet. Think the way Zorro hates that sword girl from One piece.

[N O C T E]

By the way Storm is represented now, I hope that in the begining he decides to help humanity and then for once in middle you actually go onto the evil side and just try to destroy humanity.

Of course in the end, he would return to the right side and double cross all his evil buddies to try and make up for all his foolish choices.

Or maybe for once they will make it to where he cannot fix everything and he is blamed for the killing of tons of innocent people by the populous(Sp?) as a whole. In the end they still hate him but at the same time thank him for saving what he can in the end. Kinda like POP 1-3.

That story would also have to have a very dark, vengeful, climactic final boss or the whole story would be useless.

[Terros]

For people that haven't read Hamlet. Think the way Zorro hates that sword girl from One piece. He might have like a love-hate relationship...who knows....

[Misschoco]

Aww crackers, Storm looks like the controlled type ^_^

THANK YOUUUUUUU :crazy: :crazy: thats excactly what storm is like :nod:

when friendship/bonding is a main theme how can he have misdirected rage???(im a bit confused on that myself)

[Terros]

I'm not sure how to put it into words, they may share a bond that's like a love-hate relationship...that's the best way I can put it, I'm really having trouble putting my ideas into words...sorry...:(

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I'm not sure how to put it into words, they may share a bond that's like a love-hate relationship...that's the best way I can put it, I'm really having trouble putting my ideas into words...sorry...:(

How about friends or the grew-up-together kind like Tifa and Cloud? *trying to twist the conversation in a more friendlier direction*

[Terros]

Maybe...I did think about something like that....

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Maybe...I did think about something like that....

Yup yup! Bright and friendly :P (though Storm isn't exactly bright and happy in the trailer to begin with)

[Terros]

I think the girl might be bright and friendly...well at least more so than Storm.

[Misschoco]

I think the girl might be bright and friendly...well at least more so than Storm.

well you wouldn't expect storm to be friendly to a bunch of soldiers threatening his kingdom

i think everyones jumping to conclusions about storms personality without knowing enough.we dont even have a personality profile of him from square yet ;)

[Terros]

True, true, going back to what I said about people have a way of changing depending if they're on/off the battlefield.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

True, true, going back to what I said about people have a way of changing depending if they're on/off the battlefield.

Yup! But he still looks like the quiet, to-himself type :)
It would be really cute if he's shy around the heroine :P

[Misschoco]

It would be really cute if he's shy around the heroine :P
thats what i'v been waiting for someone to say :nod:

thank youuuuuuuuuu

alas people are diverting from calling him anti-social like squall

[Desi]

He's rich let him be two-faced. Put on a nice facade around important people but be the snobby bastard you expect from royalty.

[Misschoco]

He's rich let him be two-faced. Put on a nice facade around important people but be the snobby bastard you expect from royalty.

okay we all know royalty are snobbish b***tards

but will reality always have to be in a game and by that i mean royal snobbery

[Desi]

okay we all know royalty are snobbish b***tards

but will reality always have to be in a game and by that i mean royal snobbery
Well I am trying to make him a unique lead character. Royal in games always gets shown as the nicest people to exist when they are on your side. I wanted him to be different. Let him call himself a descendant of a god like the ancient leaders did. Let him treat those that aren't of the same blood like dirt. That would make him a truly unique character to play as.

[Lucrecia]

He's rich let him be two-faced. Put on a nice facade around important people but be the snobby bastard you expect from royalty.

I pretty sure that's how his character's going to be.

[Misschoco]

Well I am trying to make him a unique lead character. Royal in games always gets shown as the nicest people to exist when they are on your side. I wanted him to be different. Let him call himself a descendant of a god like the ancient leaders did. Let him treat those that aren't of the same blood like dirt. That would make him a truly unique character to play as.

:'( gosh i'd hate that

thats just me

[Desi]

Why do you want to limit his personality to what we already seen hundreds of times before? That is no fun at all and leads him to feel similar to everyother goody prince/princess that helps out (which in a way was why Ashe was a breath of fresh air). We need more pompous posh Royal blood characters.

He also should lead some preemptive attacks on other countries. Kind of like how the outer soldiers attacked his country/nation/city.

[Misschoco]

Why do you want to limit his personality to what we already seen hundreds of times before? That is no fun at all and leads him to feel similar to everyother goody prince/princess that helps out (which in a way was why Ashe was a breath of fresh air). We need more pompous posh Royal blood characters.

okay im against this ;) ..............

He also should lead some preemptive attacks on other countries. Kind of like how the outer soldiers attacked his country/nation/city.
..........but totally agree with this

[Desi]

But your view of the character just makes him a "knight in shining armor" not a person we can take seriously to express the idea of "tragedy". People don't make 180% character turnarounds.

[Misschoco]

But your view of the character just makes him a "knight in shining armor" not a person we can take seriously to express the idea of "tragedy". People don't make 180% character turnarounds.

i dont expect or want him to be a knight in shining amour.now i admit that would suck

but for him to be consumed in snobbery.........

..........now that would suck

[Desi]

I didn't say consumed. that is what the facade is for. Think how Squall talked in his head about people but Versus would say that around ones he trust. While being very polite to people that control his public image.

[Misschoco]

I didn't say consumed. that is what the facade is for. Think how Squall talked in his head about people but Versus would say that around ones he trust. While being very polite to people that control his public image.
okay now we're getting somewhere

[Terros]

I kinda picture him as being a bit snobby to, to people who would be "lesser" to him.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I kinda picture him as being a bit snobby to, to people who would be "lesser" to him.

Hmmm... everyone is lesser than him, since he's the king of the only country with crystals in the WORLD :blink:

[Terros]

True......still, I'm sure there is SOMEONE he'd have respect for.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

The heroine :P
Aww...sweetness :lol:

[Desi]

okay now we're getting somewhere
I have been saying the same thing. You just wasn't reading it right. That is why we got nowhere.

[Misschoco]

I have been saying the same thing. You just wasn't reading it right. That is why we got nowhere.

i was reading it right its just the last thing you said...........

I didn't say consumed. that is what the facade is for. Think how Squall talked in his head about people but Versus would say that around ones he trust. While being very polite to people that control his public image.

.......it seemed better then you saying his a snobbish royal ass

[Desi]

He still a snobby little ass, I just used a character you love as an example.

[Misschoco]

He still a snobby little ass, I just used a character you love as an example.
you mean squall?who is this character:blink:

[Terros]

The heroine :P
Aww...sweetness :lol: Maybe...then again maybe not. It depends on his relationship to the character.

[Desi]

you mean squall?who is this character:blink:
Yes Squall. What he said in his mind was very vulgar and mean but this character would say it out loud. He is royalty after all.

[Terros]

That's true.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yes Squall. What he said in his mind was very vulgar and mean but this character would say it out loud. He is royalty after all.

<_< What happened to the "calm-and-controlled" theory?

[Terros]

Hrmmmm...yes we must take that into consideration as well, can he be calm and controlled but be snobby at the same time?

[Misschoco]

Yes Squall. What he said in his mind was very vulgar and mean but this character would say it out loud. He is royalty after all.

squall was a anti-social arse

i never liked him

anyways...............


can we please lay of the snobbery.okay a little bit is fine......but no snobbish arses

[Terros]

I starting to have hard time pictureing his as being snobbish. He may have a nobility complex but I don't think he'll be as far gone as snobbish.

[N O C T E]

I don't think he will be snobbish but more of a Quiet person. Makes funny or crucial comment's at just the right time, most of them are of course Asinine. In other words, he will be a total Smart-Ass.

And is of course the extremley calm one to but when you piss him off.......:D

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I don't think he will be snobbish but more of a Quiet person. Makes funny or crucial comment's at just the right time, most of them are of course Asinine. In other words, he will be a total Smart-Ass.

And is of course the extremley calm one to but when you piss him off.......:D

Yayz! Yup-yup, that's the perfect personality! :wub: I love the Versus guy forever and ever

[Desi]

And is of course the extremley calm one to but when you piss him off.......:D

Like everybody else? Come on people, come up with something interesting. Not the same personality in a different skin. I'd hate to play some of your games.

[N O C T E]

Like everybody else? Come on people, come up with something interesting. Not the same personality in a different skin. I'd hate to play some of your games.

Well, just like in every other FF game, there will be a fighter thats loud, a whiner, the big hearted kind person, and the other usual personalities.

But for now, based on what we know about Storm, I think he will be the quiet and asinine one.

Maybe there will be a snobbish royal guy in the game, just not Storm.^_^

[Terros]

True, but each of them manages to obtain something that sets them apart from the other characters of that personality.

[Desi]

True, but each of them manages to obtain something that sets them apart from the other characters of that personality.

Not really. The only thing that sets them apart is that they don't keep their personalities(random 180 turn around) or they get one "touching" scene. I think you are praising them to much.

[Misschoco]

Not really. The only thing that sets them apart is that they don't keep their personalities(random 180 turn around) or they get one "touching" scene. I think you are praising them to much.

what desi said^

[N O C T E]

Well, maybe this game will be different.

It looks that way with the way of the fighting and maybe the way the story is written will take a drastic turn from the other FF games just like the fighting.:D

Then the characters would have more differences to set them apart instead of the one "touching scene" or the 180 turnaround.

[Terros]

Well, I think FFXIII will surprise us, and we may even change our minds about certain things, only time will tell. Besides this has Nomura and the other minds behind the best FF games, so you can expect good work. I don't think we'll be disappointed.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Well, I think FFXIII will surprise us, and we may even change our minds about certain things, only time will tell. Besides this has Nomura and the other minds behind the best FF games, so you can expect good work. I don't think we'll be disappointed.

WOOOOO! At least it would be worth the wait, unlike XII and X-2
...My brother has given up on FF when he spent his hard-earned money on FFXII and was disappointed :'(

[Terros]

Strange, I didn't think FFXII was a bad game, it just had a stupid system for equipping items and magic.

[Misschoco]

Strange, I didn't think FFXII was a bad game, it just had a stupid system for equipping items and magic.

strange indeed-i thought it was a good game too ;)

Then the characters would have more differences to set them apart instead of the one "touching scene" or the 180 turnaround.
touching scenes too me are too common

[Terros]

Yes they are.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

strange indeed-i thought it was a good game too ;)



Me too, but the story was pretty lame... Oh! That kingdom is taking over mine! I must get it back! ...Woo...hoo...

[Terros]

touching scenes too me are too common That's probably why there isn't a strong love story theme in this game.

[Misschoco]

That's probably why there isn't a strong love story theme in this game.

probably not-but it will be an unorthodox love story if there is to be one

[Terros]

Perhaps, yes, it probably won't be as dramatized as the other love stories.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Well, the Versus guy is considered a quiet person, and I get this feeling that he's probably a loner or prefer going solo....

[Misschoco]

Well, the Versus guy is considered a quiet person
im still not gona make any assumptions to what his personal attributes are e.g quietness

[Terros]

Anywho lets try to get back to the topic. I think there won't be a very strong love story because from what I've been hearing people speculate, I think FFvsXIII will focus more on societal issues, militarisic desires, and political intrigue. With all that it's difficult to put up a strong dominant love story, so I think romance is gonna be thrown on the back burner if it's present at all.

[Lifrasthir]

I agree with Terros. From the trailers Square Enix has released so far, it looks as though romance is one of the lesser things on the list of stuff to put into the storyline. I know there's not much information released on Versus XIII but we can assume (so far) that political issues, etc. will be more important.

[N O C T E]

Anywho lets try to get back to the topic. I think there won't be a very strong love story because from what I've been hearing people speculate, I think FFvsXIII will focus more on societal issues, militarisic desires, and political intrigue. With all that it's difficult to put up a strong dominant love story, so I think romance is gonna be thrown on the back burner if it's present at all.

I agree and think it will be a good change.:D

[Terros]

I think so too, the last few FF's had a lot of love stuff goin' on, if square doesn't want fans to get tired of it then they need to take a break from it. FFvsXIII gives them that oppurtunity, I think or hope so.

[Lifrasthir]

If they kept the romance on the downside and to a minimum I wouldn't have a problem with romance in Versus XIII.

[Desi]

It probably won't roll well with people. I mean hey we get upset easily.

[Lifrasthir]

Lol yeah I know that.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Most likely the FFXIII games won't have any or little romance, I mean, look at Lightning, she's definitely a soloist :rolleyes:

[Terros]

I'm not saying that there won't be romance it just won't be as important as it was in previous FF games.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

well yeah, I like the thought of more fighting and killing than romance for once :rolleyes:

[Terros]

Exactly, plus they'll probably have little romance to please the fans.

[Misschoco]

Exactly, plus they'll probably have little romance to please the fans.

the fans come first

[Cathryn]

I doubt romance.
But sexual tension would be great, its just funny seeing it in a story.
You want something to happen etc...

But still it would be nice to see romance, but i doubt it would happen. :(

[Misschoco]

But sexual tension would be great, its just funny seeing it in a story.



sexual tension=frustration...

...for me anyways

[Cathryn]

Lol. Bless XDD

Meh, but i doubt romance, maybe they will slip it in, but with the lack of info we can only asume. :'(

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Storm (??) has to have a soft and tender side, there HAS to be romance somewhere in the story

[Misschoco]

Storm (??) has to have a soft and tender side, there HAS to be romance somewhere in the story

agreed :nod:

so anyone wana talk about storms hair :crazy: *swoons* :wub:

[Terros]

I love it, though has anyone one noticed it's VERY similar to Roxas' hair style? The ony really difference are the bangs in the front and the spikes point in the other direction.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I like spikey hair on a guy :P Plus, this guy is a whole new definition of hotness :rolleyes:

[Terros]

It's nice, but it reminds me of Roxas, who I love very much (DX get your own man Axel).

[Misschoco]

Plus, this guy is a whole new definition of hotness :rolleyes:
this is hard since im totally mad about storm :wub: we're gona have to learn to share him :rolleyes: storm=:wub:

[Desi]

I love it, though has anyone one noticed it's VERY similar to Roxas' hair style? The ony really difference are the bangs in the front and the spikes point in the other direction.
It is Sion's hair backwards.

[Terros]

this is hard since im totally mad about storm :wub: we're gona have to learn to share him :rolleyes: storm=:wub:
I don't want to share him either. T_T but I must...

[Sorrow]

Storm (or Oji) is very cool and stylish but Lightning is the coolest! By the way, have you seen these images?

http://meltokio.net/overture/gallery/ffvs13-rival.jpg
http://meltokio.net/overture/gallery/ffvs13-rival2.jpg

A new character was shown... It appears a girl in a white cloak...

[Misschoco]

Storm (or Oji) is very cool and stylish but Lightning is the coolest! By the way, have you seen these images?

http://meltokio.net/overture/gallery/ffvs13-rival.jpg
http://meltokio.net/overture/gallery/ffvs13-rival2.jpg

A new character was shown... It appears a girl in a white cloak...
yup we've seen them

but that characters gender isnt certain-some say its a guy some say its the herione.


but if thats her real hair colour then im opposing to it :nag: plus whatever happened to the use of swords 'and' magic not just friggin magic

[Terros]

I don't think it's the heroine...why would they call the person fighting Storm the "heroine" if Storm is the hero? Unless she joins his side later, or is testing him, but still.....I think for now the best info we have to go on regarding what the heroine looks like is the logo. There is a rumor that says the woman in the logo is possibly the heroine.

[Firewolf]

i agree with terros but the logo features a female sleeping near a crystal so maybe shes apart of the crystal or sumthing

[Terros]

One theory going around is that she may be a part of the crystal, you can read more about in the heroine thread.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Isn't that hooded girl the one he fights in the trailer? That's the heroine?! Oh...she better be pretty :nag:

[Misschoco]

I don't think it's the heroine...why would they call the person fighting Storm the "heroine" if Storm is the hero? Unless she joins his side later, or is testing him, but still.....I think for now the best info we have to go on regarding what the heroine looks like is the logo. There is a rumor that says the woman in the logo is possibly the heroine.
yes true.but the herione dosent necesraily have to be on the heroes side,shes just the main female lead.and remeber'nothing is good or bad but thinking makes it so' considering this the heroine thinks shes doing a good cause and the hero think his doing a good cause so taking this into account she can still be a herione even though she may not be good 'in some peoples eyes'

made sense??:blink:

Oh...she better be pretty :nag:

oh she better :nag:

[Terros]

I hope the robed person isn't the heroine. Pretty or not, I'll be ticked.

[XwingsofaresX]

the way i see it, folks, she might be part of the crystal like terros said. however, she could the heroine or someone the hero needs to protect if she is very important. i dont know exactly.

[Terros]

If it's a female I would like her(??) to be the villain, female villians and heroes are a fairly new concept in the FF series.

[Firewolf]

its his wife lol

[Terros]

its his wife lol Why'd you have to say that, now that image is stuck in my head. *shudders*

[Firewolf]

i just thought it be funny shes a like u love this crystal more then me hes like bc it doesnt talk like u then they to kill each other

[Terros]

Talk about a "lovely" relationship....

[Firewolf]

that would completely something new

[Terros]

Yes it would.

[Misschoco]

its his wife lol
*shudders* dang why'd you have to say

she/he is a rival from what we've seen and its only that so far ;)

[Terros]

Yes, but still that image is sticking with me....wife....marriage! No he's too young!!

[Lifrasthir]

Wife....hm...........*thinks* OMG!!!!! :ohmy:

[Terros]

Bad thoughts! Baaaaaaaaaaaaad thoughts!

[Lifrasthir]

*shivers* I gotta say he does look too young to be married...*thinks even more*

[Terros]

That's what makes the thought so disturbing. TOOOOOOO YOUNG!!

[Lifrasthir]

That's what makes the thought so disturbing. TOOOOOOO YOUNG!!

You've never known people who've married very young?.....It actually could be very possible...history shows quite a few people who married 18 or younger...

[Terros]

I know, but still!! Noo...I can't bare it if he's married!!!

[Lifrasthir]

Hm..Square doesn't typically have married couples right?

[Ultima Star]

WHO'S MARRIED??!!
storm's married??!!!!!!!!!! OMG noooooo
It can't be! NOOOO!!!!!!!!!
*suicide*

[Lifrasthir]

No no US(HA! Nickname!), we have no idea if Storm's married...:blink: Wait...who're you talking about?

[Ultima Star]

I was talking about Storm.
You sure gave me a scare.
I was like : "No way married, why do we have to find out that the good men are married" lol it always happens.
But...if Storm was married...*suicide*

[Terros]

Scary, that thought scares me and yes, marriage is virtually unheard of in FF.

[Lifrasthir]

Okay. So then drawing from that thought it's conclusive that Storm will most likely not be married.

[Terros]

Most likely.

[Ultima Star]

No MARRIED NOOOO!
Erase that from your head!

[Terros]

Easier said than done.

[Lifrasthir]

Ooh, I hate it when things like that do that to you...

[Terros]

It's one of those things once you get it in your head you can't get it out.

[N O C T E]

You know, in since the game is going to take on a darker setting than the others, maybe he IS married and his wife is brutally murdered by the opposing country he is at war with....

That would explain why he is pissed.

[Terros]

That's a great theory, he WAS married but now he's single again! Happiness!! Uh...I mean...that's sad.

[N O C T E]

Ha, ha. even though people are kinda getting sick of it, it would also throw some romance into the game if she is not dead from the begining.

Lets just hope that if this theory is right, she does not live very long......

[Terros]

Yes, but then that may lead someone even better to take her place eventually....*nominates self*

[Ultima Star]

A divorced guy?.....NO, I want him SINGLE!!!
NO one dares to marry my versus guy.
*takes a gun, goes and looks for heroine*

[Terros]

A divorced guy?.....NO, I want him SINGLE!!!
NO one dares to marry my versus guy.
*takes a gun, goes and looks for heroine*

Not divorced she died! That would make Storm a widower.

[N O C T E]

Shit, now you all are going to kill each other for Storm.:ohmy:

Should have sold tickets to this.........

[Ultima Star]

widower....I'm still with te idea of him to be single lol

[Terros]

Technically now he is single.

[Ultima Star]

Yes and he will be like that FOREVER!!!!!!!!!

[Terros]

I don't know...that heroine may be hard to compete with, though I won't mind if I approve of her.

[Ultima Star]

*goes and kidnaps heroine*
Don't even dare to get near to Storm or else!!!!

[Terros]

Calm down, and release the heroine Ultima. You're only gonna delay the game and that means it'll take more time for us to see more of Storm.

[N O C T E]

Yeah, you will piss of every FFVXIII fan in the world.

[Terros]

And believe me you don't want that.

[Ultima Star]

*releases heroine*XD
Go...:'( do whatever you want with Storm:'(
Hug him, kiss him...Terros can I suicide again?

[Terros]

No, you will learn self control.

[N O C T E]

We could use a shocker collar.......

Or teach her the way the spartans were taught....

[Ultima Star]

I'm calm now...the heroine is release happy?
*cries* *goes in search for friends*
WHAA_they're gone....*cries more*
XD XD XDlol!
You don't let me kidnap the heroine and you didn't let me kidnap Nomura...
Say...anyway, I'll control myself

[N O C T E]

Thats good cause I have no idea where to buy a shocker collar with a high enough voltage.

Now, do you need to go into rehab so this does not happen again?

[Terros]

Good, keep it that way.

[Ultima Star]

Thats good cause I have no idea where to buy a shocker collar with a high enough voltage.

Now, do you need to go into rehab so this does not happen again?

WHAA- he wants to kill me!!! with high voltage lol!!:'(
It's not gonna happen again I promise.
Terros, you don't wanna kill me right?

[N O C T E]

WHAA- he wants to kill me!!! with high voltage lol!!:'(
It's not gonna happen again I promise.
Terros, you don't wanna kill me right?

WHAT?:ohmy:

No, If you would want to actually use a shocker collar on a human being, you would have to find one with a high enough voltage to actually have an effect. A shocker collar for a dog would do nothing.

Now, I would not actually do this, I assure you.:nod:

[Terros]

No I don't, but I may be forced to used drastic measures if you lose it again.

[Ultima Star]

.....Ok I'll be calm from now on^-^
What drastic meausre are you talking about Terros?
What!! Lucifers wanted to put a shocker collar for a dog on me!!!!!!!
......*breaths*..I'm calm

[Misschoco]

A divorced guy?.....NO, I want him SINGLE!!!
NO one dares to marry my versus guy.
*takes a gun, goes and looks for heroine*
storm in mine nuff' said :rolleyes: and if anyone touches him i will take drastic measures :ninja:


btw:lets get back on topic

[Ultima Star]

Say..like what? you gonna go kidnap the heroine?
Forget it, they're not gonna let you do so

[Misschoco]

Say..like what? you gonna go kidnap the heroine?
Forget it, they're not gonna let you do so
if the heroine beres some resemblance to me also personality wise.....then i aint complaining :rolleyes: i didnt mean to sound self-conceited though

[Terros]

In some sense I think all fangirls wished the heroine would look and be like them....even me, there I said it.

[Ultima Star]

Indeed, that's true....

[Terros]

Anywho back to the plot:

We know:
A) A crystal of some kind is at the center of it
B) Peeps are fighting for it

Ok...do you guys think there is only one crystal or more?

[Desi]

well the trailer calls it the "Final Crystal". There can me some minor shards though. Sort of like in FFXI with the four or so Mothercrystals. The little crystals you use to make things and get off of monsters are just little shards that life springs from. Not the big "all life comes from" aka All powerful crystal main crystal which was split into the four mothercrystals.

So yeah there can be lots of little crystals but are no where near as powerful as that one he has behind his throne.

[Allen Walker]

I think its safe to say that the final boss of this game will be someone that wants to destroy humanity by destroying the origin of life. (THE crystal) D:

[Desi]

Reminds me of the Final boss in the Rise of the Zilart expansion pack for FFXI. It was more deeper then that though as he was mad at the goddess Altana for kicking the Zilart out of paradise and splitting the crystal just to save Promathia(or keep him alive as long as she could).

[Terros]

well the trailer calls it the "Final Crystal". There can me some minor shards though. Sort of like in FFXI with the four or so Mothercrystals. The little crystals you use to make things and get off of monsters are just little shards that life springs from. Not the big "all life comes from" aka All powerful crystal main crystal which was split into the four mothercrystals.

So yeah there can be lots of little crystals but are no where near as powerful as that one he has behind his throne.

That's what I was thinking that the is one main body crystal and some shards of it that people have.

[Misschoco]

Sort of like in FFXI with the four or so Mothercrystals.
So yeah there can be lots of little crystals but are no where near as powerful as that one he has behind his throne.
considering it is the 'final crystal' then i may stick with there just being one mother crystal other then shards.although the shard theory sounds good.But wouldnt the soldiers gather the small shards to gain some power to fight of versus guy and get mother crystal....but they all seemed to congregate only for the crystal behind his throne-lol made sense? :blink:

I think its safe to say that the final boss of this game will be someone that wants to destroy humanity by destroying the origin of life. (THE crystal) D:
a possibility

[Terros]

They may have a shard, and even the number of shards may be very limited. If the enemy has a shard I think it's held by the robed person.

[Misschoco]

They may have a shard, and even the number of shards may be very limited. If the enemy has a shard I think it's held by the robed person.
yh and thats possibly why she went into the throne room undetected and was bathing the room in bright light possibly projected from a crystal shard

[Terros]

Possibly, or he/she could be ba power mage.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I feel like I'm missing something, was the extended version of the trailer released?

[Terros]

No, but we have descriptions on several sites about what happened in the trailer.

[Misschoco]

No, but we have descriptions on several sites about what happened in the trailer.
descriptions yes :nod: but damn it i need to see the trailer with my own eyes to believe

[Ultima Star]

I wan to see it too!!
gueez...I wanted to be in SE party!

[N O C T E]

Hmmm, the robed person as a mage makes the most sense, a fighter would not wear all the extra clothing for nothing and if they were trying to blend in they would not wear white.

And yes, I wish I could have been at the SE party as well......

[Terros]

Besides in battle excess clothing like a robe would get in the way. But a mage typically isn't on the front line and attacks from a distance.

[Ultima Star]

I think it was just a disguise, so he could enter where Storm was

[N O C T E]

Would that be a disguise?:blink:

[Ultima Star]

I think so :nod:
Cos that's the only way he could enter Storm's castle

[Terros]

Actually know, the robed person teleported inside.

[Desi]

I think so :nod:
Cos that's the only way he could enter Storm's castle
I think the white would have gave her/him away.

Teleporting inside buildings now. NPC's break all the rules.

[Ultima Star]

enter/teleporting lol is the same!
When you teleport somewhere you enter there lol!

[Lifrasthir]

If the white robed person teleported inside I would think that there would be some sort of protection against that..

[Misschoco]

If the white robed person teleported inside I would think that there would be some sort of protection against that..
you mean protection against white robed person teleporting inside??

[Lifrasthir]

Um yeah. Kinda like Hogwarts in Harry Potter.

[Misschoco]

Um yeah. Kinda like Hogwarts in Harry Potter.
hmm i dunno about the protection bit from white robed person entering throne room.....but then again they do posses magic

[Lifrasthir]

I would figure that they would try to protect the one on the throne with counter spells of their own to keep enemy mages, sorcerers, and such away from the throne.

[Misschoco]

I would figure that they would try to protect the one on the throne with counter spells of their own to keep enemy mages, sorcerers, and such away from the throne.
unless they figured that the crystal was the protector.Or since storm is totally capable of protecting himself and the crystal cant be opened yet from what we know(its in slumber) then counter spells could easily be surpassed by mages so i dont think there'd be any point in them

[Lifrasthir]

Hmm...true.

[N O C T E]

Or maybe there is a counter spell on the crystal just not on the castle itself. and maybe the counter spell could not be surpassed because it was made by the crystal itself.....

Only V could touch the crystal then..

[Lifrasthir]

But that seems irrelevant because of the Crystal's mystical abilities...right?

[Misschoco]

But that seems irrelevant because of the Crystal's mystical abilities...right?
but thats what the crystals ability would be :P a counter spell

[Lifrasthir]

Alright now I'm just confused. :wacko:

[N O C T E]

Ok, here we go:

-Dude with the white cloak can teleport inside the castle because it has no counter spells on it.
-Then Misschoco said that that would be irrelevant cause they could bust through those.
-So then I proposed the fact that maybe the crystal had a counter spell on it and only V's family line can touch it...

Understand?

[Lifrasthir]

Sorta....

[N O C T E]

Well, I suppose Sorta Confused is better than Confused.

[Lifrasthir]

Yeah...*goes back and reads* Okay...it makes more sense now. :D

[Terros]

So what would be the point of going inside if that can't touch the crystal? I think it was more to test Storm/V (whatever you want to call him). I'm curious to see this crystal, what if it has a human counter part? The pillar looked more than big enough to hold and object and possibly a person. I fact it looked big enough to hold several people.

[Lifrasthir]

I'm wondering if the Crystal is in a crystalline form.

[Terros]

That's what I wonder, it could be and have manifestation of itself. Or the crystal could have a totally new form, like that of a summon or a person.

[Lifrasthir]

For all we know the Crystal could be some unknown substance...like the concept of the Lifestream...in a way..

[N O C T E]

Ohh, now THAT is a good theory.:w00t:

[Lifrasthir]

Maybe we're assuming too much by thinking that the Crystal is in a crystalline form. When I say that I'm not excluding the fact that the Crystal has the ability to be in a crystal state. Since it seems as though we've given the Crystal a personality.

[N O C T E]

I do not think that we are assuming too much by any means. Maybe the crystal is not a crystal at all (in form).......Maybe it is like a floating thing of water that moves constantly....

[Lifrasthir]

That is a possibility..But then why is it called a Crystal...Not sure I've got that figured out in this "Not Crystalline" theory..

[N O C T E]

Well, I am just coming up with stuff as it pops in my head. I for one would be pleased with a normal crystal.

[Lifrasthir]

Whenever you say "Crystal" for some reason it always makes me think of that Disney movie "Atlantis: The Lost Empire". :D