Versus main character and plot/story

[N O C T E]

I did not like that movie.

Woo-Hoo! 300th Post, right here.......:w00t:.........

[Terros]

I have an idea, are you familiar with the Square Soft game Legend of Mana? It's a game for ps1 but in it there were a people called the Jumi, they had gems implanted into their chests, that functioned as their core if this was damaged our plucked out of their chest they would die.

I'll try and find a picture for you.

[Lifrasthir]

When you introduced us to the theory that the Crystal may have a humaniod shape, that particular part reminded me of the movie cause the Crystal/life-thinggy took the shape of a human...Near the very end. It was able to act through a person...could that be a possibility?

Edit: Congradulations L-A!

[Terros]

http://www.geocities.com/lapisjumi/Images/LoM/Elazuls2b.jpg Here's a picture of Elazul a Jumi, on his chest is his gem, the Lapis Lazuli.

Here is another picture of a jumi, her name is Pearl you can clearly see the massive pearl imbedded in her chest: http://www.geocities.com/lapisjumi/Images/LoM/Pearlcb2.jpg

[Lifrasthir]

Wow that's a big crystal...and no I'm not familiar with Legend of Mana. I need to save money to get more games though...

[N O C T E]

Hmm, that makes no sense. Where is the crystal when he is fighting then, unless it is under his jacket then it is not there....

Side Note - Thank you TF!

EDIT - I have played LOM, it was a good game.

[Terros]

I'm saying that the crystal could be like that, and yes it's verywell possible that he hides the crystal under his jacket if he does have one imbedded in his chest, but I don't think he does, I think he'd be protecting someone else. Though it is possible.

[Lifrasthir]

Would the Crystal lend its aid to the one protecting it...? My guess is it's kinda a deal. Kinda like "I protect you, you help me."....Maybe like that...and I don't think the Crystal's underneath his jacked. :P

What about the Crystal energy or whatever it is on the engine sword he uses as his main weapon? Would that have any connection to the, for lack of a better word, "bigger" Crystal?

[Terros]

Most likely, going back to my theory that there is a "main" crystal and several shards scattered about.

[Lifrasthir]

And those shards are in different forms..?

[Terros]

Possibly, that add a whole new degree out interest to the game.

[Lifrasthir]

This should prove to be very interesting.

[Terros]

Indeed, then not only would he have to worried about protecting "main" crystal but the various forms the shards take on (some of these can be anything from crystalline to humanoid). It makes the game that more challenging and interesting, and it adds to the possible of the shards become one with the main crystal, then the question is, what happens then? Perhaps, and this just a theory, the shards need to be brought back to the main crystal for it to awaken.

[Lifrasthir]

Then what use is the Crystal?....Would "awaken" mean some sort of "special power" the Crystal posesses?

[Terros]

Yes what is the purpose for the crystal is at the heart of the story.

[N O C T E]

Well, If the mother crystal has shards, I am going to say that each shard will be aligned with an element. For each Shard V uses, he will gain the powers of that element. Sorta like the Valor, Wisdom, & master forms in KH but with the elements. The mother crystal would be the thing that lets him do all the air bending, bullet blocking and cool sword stuff.

[Lifrasthir]

Ah okay. Wait, if the shard that held a specific "element" was missing from the "Mother Crystal", wouldn't it kinda be like a puzzle then? Like, there's a piece missing and so you've got a blank spot in the middle of it....and thus you don't have that part of the picture.

[N O C T E]

Think of it like this: The mother crystal still has shards missing from it but they are minute in size, and plus, after it was broken and the shards were made, that might have been when the elements were made.

My ideas usually have holes in them that need to be fixed........

[Lifrasthir]

So it's like part of a pice of a puzzle...I'm confusing with all my analagies aren't I?

[N O C T E]

Yes, I guess you could say that.:D

And you are not confusing with all you're analogies, you are only trying to relate a new concept to something you already know, it makes perfect sense.;)

[Lifrasthir]

Okay....Good. Cause I woulda stopped if I made no sense..

[Terros]

I think once seperated from the mother crystal the shards take on different froms.

[Ultima Star]

um..how's that?..separated forms?....like..each crystal...once it's separated from the main can have different type of abilities and form and uses? @.@

[Terros]

Yes, more or less.

[Lifrasthir]

Seems logic enough.

[Ultima Star]

Ok, first time I say something 'logic'

[Terros]

Perhaps the shape the shards take depends on the size of the shards.

[N O C T E]

No, don't think it will be size.

[Misschoco]

No, don't think it will be size.
it could just be the properties each size crystal possesses-made any sense???

[N O C T E]

Well that makes more sense now.:D

Now lets get more specific, do you mean properties, like its crystalization structure, like normal rocks and gems?

[Misschoco]

Well that makes more sense now.:D

Now lets get more specific, do you mean properties, like its crystalization structure, like normal rocks and gems?
yh precisely what i meant :D it doesnt just have to be fantasy based the crystal properties but there could be scientific properties which give it its power and the inside structure of the crystal would give it different properties-made sense??

[N O C T E]

Yes, I got it. Its just like how salts crystilline formation makes it grow in perfect cubes and when you break it it will always break in cubes.

[Terros]

it could just be the properties each size crystal possesses-made any sense???

Perhaps, personally I don't think it'll depend on size either. But what if the shards can fuse with other things.

[Ultima Star]

With other things?
OH! I got an idea, what about if the shards fuse with people's hearts?!

[Lifrasthir]

Perhaps, personally I don't think it'll depend on size either. But what if the shards can fuse with other things.

Like materia?

[Terros]

Kinda, I'd also leave it open to objects and animals.

[Lifrasthir]

Giving them specific elemental powers?

[Ultima Star]

Hey I said with people's hearts!
So that if those soldiers that fight over the crystals have to kill some people that have the some shards inside them..and then there's enough space for what you want: BLOOD!!

[Lifrasthir]

That sounds like a season of Digimon.

[Terros]

Giving them specific elemental powers?

Possibly but I'd also leave it open to more than that.

[Ultima Star]

Forget about it then......

[Lifrasthir]

Open how?

[Terros]

Open how?

Like they'd have special abilities, that are non-elemental, because just governing a single element is a bit cliche (god I'm using that word too much). For example if it fuses with an animal the animal could change into some new creature.

[Lifrasthir]

So it could be a metamorphis or an elemental combination is what you're saying right? That could be possible since it seems as though the Crytal, even shards, are coveted by alot of people.

[Terros]

Exactly. Basically I'm saying there are an infinite set of possibilities when the crystal comes into contact with something/someone.

[Lifrasthir]

I would think there would eventually be a limit on the Crystal's powers...

[Terros]

Most likely, but there's no telling what effect the crystals power will have on whatever it fuses with.

[Lifrasthir]

What about life and death? Alpha and Omega....?

[Terros]

Hmm...I'm sure it's power could re-animate dead things while killing other things. Like I said what it will do is unknown.

[Alphonse]

Yep. Got that right.

[Lifrasthir]

I think Square would mask the Crystal's true potential until something drastic happens.

[Terros]

Yes, it would be critical to the story, since the game revolves around it.

[Lifrasthir]

It would. :nod:

[Terros]

Ever left to wonder.

[Lifrasthir]

I want a great movement somewhere in the middle of the game...not like an exodus but a great battle or a riot or something with violence..:nod:

[Terros]

Considering the situation that is possibly what will happen.

[Lifrasthir]

I hope it does...It would be a perfect time to unveil the Crystal's true powers...depending on how it's introduced.

[Terros]

Indeed, that could work.

[Lifrasthir]

I hope it does. :'( Please hear my feeble request Square........Ah what the heck I know you won't.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Maybe when the characters are almost dying or they are surrounded by a whole army of enemy soldiers, and suddenly a blinding light shines from inside the palace and a massacre? :rolleyes:

...Wow, so dramatic :lol:

[Misschoco]

I want a great movement somewhere in the middle of the game...not like an exodus but a great battle or a riot or something with violence..:nod:
hehe gore :perv: as versus guy fights in a bloody way which we've heard him do in the 2nd trailer then there will be bloody scenes.plus its nomuras darkest ff yet

[Lifrasthir]

Whoosh! Hooray! :d

[Terros]

I loves blood, violence, and gore!

[Fenristh]

http://forums.finalfantasy-xiii.net/showthread.php?t=1410

Take note, children. :P

[Lifrasthir]

Yeah I saw that Dante. <_< *tries to refrain from denying the rules*

Darkest FF yet...this will be interesting. :shifty: And I'm glad Square's tryin' out blood...it'll most likely make the game alot more realistic.

[Fenristh]

Yeah. They probably didnt do it because of age rating but they've probably realised that in the graphics they can do now, someone having their neck cut open and no blood coming out looks stupid. xD

[Terros]

Exactly, going back to advent children when Cloud got shot...what the heck was that? There was no even a BULLET HOLE! What the crap?

[Lifrasthir]

Yeah. They probably didnt do it because of age rating but they've probably realised that in the graphics they can do now, someone having their neck cut open and no blood coming out looks stupid. xD

You have to think though, what would the rating be?...

[Fenristh]

Depends on how intense it is. People exploding like Soldier of Fortune would be 18 xD but they'll probably make it a 12 or 15. Or censor it for US and EU -_-

[Lifrasthir]

They normally aim for rated T games don't they?

[Fenristh]

Well, in England Final Fantasy XII is a 16+ and Dirge of Cerberus is a 15 so Final Fantasy Versus XIII being a 15 is more than likely.

[Lifrasthir]

Are the ratings different in England than the US?

[Fenristh]

Yeah, they are. :P We have ratings that are like, "suggested" like the 16+ but they still apply the same as a 18 rated game which is legally binded.

Anyway this is going off topic. ;P

[Lifrasthir]

Hm...I wonder if the blood would disappear after a while...Like how the enemies's bodies disappear a short time after you defeat them.

[Misschoco]

Hm...I wonder if the blood would disappear after a while...Like how the enemies's bodies disappear a short time after you defeat them.
that would suck..plus it would have no realism to the game....i hope the blood doesnt disappear like it does is some games

damn now im beginning to sound like a gore loving maniac :blink:

[Lifrasthir]

that would suck..plus it would have no realism to the game....i hope the blood doesnt disappear like it does is some games

damn now im beginning to sound like a gore loving maniac :blink:

It wouldn't. But I can't help feeling that maybe that's gunna happen. Hopefully Square's smart enough not to do that.

And don't worry Miss Choco, we all sound like gore loving maniacs. :D

[Misschoco]

It wouldn't. But I can't help feeling that maybe that's gunna happen. Hopefully Square's smart enough not to do that.

And don't worry Miss Choco, we all sound like gore loving maniacs. :D
they better note do that.....seriously blood disappearing is just fake

thank god im not the only maniac :'(

[Lifrasthir]

they better note do that.....seriously blood disappearing is just fake

And unrealistic. I mean, if you murder someone their blood (or bodies but that's beside the point :D) doesn't disappear.

[N O C T E]

That would suck, a lot. How could they let the bodies dissapate into thin air? along with the blood? :blink:

[Lifrasthir]

I know the "body disappearing" thing has been around for a long time but if indeed they make the enemies bleed it would seem unrealistic even for the bodies to disappear and the blood to stay behind. Maybe not as much but kind of.

[Misschoco]

I know the "body disappearing" thing has been around for a long time but if indeed they make the enemies bleed it would seem unrealistic even for the bodies to disappear and the blood to stay behind. Maybe not as much but kind of.
yh its fantasy but body's disappearing..........

keep the blood :perv:

[Lifrasthir]

Yes Square should at least keep the blood splattered exactly where you slayed the enemy.

[Cathryn]

The bodies could stay there after a time alotment. basically like the dirt tracks on motorstorm they dont dissapear after the second time round the track. If you get me XDDD

[N O C T E]

They could do it the way they do in Oblivion....Unless the dead person is a part of the story line, the bodies and the blood dissapear after you leave the dungeon, cave, house, whatever you are in after a certain amount of time...But are always they whilst you are inside.

[Lifrasthir]

That's true...I'd be okay with the blood disappearing if say, you entered the room, kicked bad guy ass, left the room, then came back.

[N O C T E]

Nope,, not good enough for me. In oblivion, as long as you are still in the "area" where you killed the person the body and blood does not dissapear, even if you go into another room in the "area".

[Cathryn]

Yea but say if you walked out then staight back in and the body has just VANISHED.
Then the realism is kinda gone a bit there =/

[Lifrasthir]

Okay...so the blood shouldn't disappear until you leave the specific "area".

[N O C T E]

Yep, thats right.:D

[Misschoco]

or you should have an option if you want the blood to disappear

you know for the faint hearted

[Lifrasthir]

As in at the beginning configuration one question will be: "If you despise blood seeping out of enemies' wounds and don't want to see that, then press the x button on 'Yes'". xD

[N O C T E]

To be quite honest, a feint hearted person should not play a violent game. Why would they not just play FFXIII?

And in some games, that option limits other things.

[Lifrasthir]

To be quite honest, a feint hearted person should not play a violent game. Why would they not just play FFXIII?

And in some games, that option limits other things.

Well my guess would be they're hard core Final Fantasy fans...

[Misschoco]

To be quite honest, a feint hearted person should not play a violent game. Why would they not just play FFXIII?

And in some games, that option limits other things.
really why would a faint hearted person play it

i remember a game were you had an option of the enemy's blood colour..........one of it was hippy style

[N O C T E]

Hippy Style, What did that look like?:blink:

Back to topic!

[Desi]

I know the "body disappearing" thing has been around for a long time but if indeed they make the enemies bleed it would seem unrealistic even for the bodies to disappear and the blood to stay behind. Maybe not as much but kind of.
That is what made Vagrant Story so sweet. The bodies didn't disappear until you went to Vadelentia or whatever.

i remember a game were you had an option of the enemy's blood colour..........one of it was hippy style
You could change the color of the oil (see: blood) in Nanobreaker.

They probably give a choice at the begining of the game or in the options menu to turn blood on or off. Japan may not get blood at all because of their weird laws examples: JP version of The Last Remant is bloodless, Ninja Gaiden: Sigma has no dismemberments, Dead Rising is bloodless...

[Lifrasthir]

That is what made Vagrant Story so sweet. The bodies didn't disappear until you went to Vadelentia or whatever.


You could change the color of the oil (see: blood) in Nanobreaker.

They probably give a choice at the begining of the game or in the options menu to turn blood on or off. Japan may not get blood at all because of their weird laws examples: JP version of The Last Remant is bloodless, Ninja Gaiden: Sigma has no dismemberments, Dead Rising is bloodless...

That sounds awesome.

[Terros]

That sounds stupid! I want blood and gore, and that doesn't makes sense, cause the japanese Xenosaga had blood and gore, it got taken out when the american version came out.

[Ultima Star]

Some blood would be fine, but not that much cos then the game would be rated "M" for mature audiences only

[Lifrasthir]

Yeah, don't want the game to be too gorey otherwise it'll probably get rated "M".

[Ultima Star]

And how in the world are we gonna buy a 'M' rated game?!
I mean after waiting for the game to come out and if it comes out before we are able to play a mature game....x_____x
I just hope it's rated as Teen game as always happens with all FF games:nod:

[XwingsofaresX]

it shouldnt be rated "M", even though square has made some M-rated games like drakengard. trust me, versus will be rated T for sure. u need to think positive^_^pplz

[Desi]

That sounds stupid! I want blood and gore, and that doesn't makes sense, cause the japanese Xenosaga had blood and gore, it got taken out when the american version came out.


Yes, I don't know how that happened since many other games even ones rated Cero Z (game rating equal to porn) have blood took out except for a small few. They took out the blood in the third Xenosaga(one and two still had blood unless you haven't played those) in the US because they wouldn't have been allowed to keep the T rating if you know how the ESRB works.

And how in the world are we gonna buy a 'M' rated game?!
I mean after waiting for the game to come out and if it comes out before we are able to play a mature game....x_____x
I just hope it's rated as Teen game as always happens with all FF gamesGo to the store and buy it? How old are you, eleven?

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

And how in the world are we gonna buy a 'M' rated game?!
I mean after waiting for the game to come out and if it comes out before we are able to play a mature game....x_____x
I just hope it's rated as Teen game as always happens with all FF games:nod:

My parents really don't care about the rating :blink: But T it is

[Ultima Star]

Go to the store and buy it? How old are you, eleven?

I'm not a kid! I'm 15 years old MR.
And, perhaps when this game comes out I'm gonna be allowed to buy a 'M' rated game

[Desi]

Just go to a independant game retailer aka not gamestop, toy r us, etc. They normally need every sale they can get so they will sell it no problem.

[Ultima Star]

.......I'll just wait:nod: perhaps it's not even rated 'M' you know :nod:

[Allen Walker]

Sorry but its way too early to judge what rating it is. >.>

Doesn't matter becuase I'll get it anyway.

[Lucrecia]

What Ragnarok said. And I honestly I don't care what it is rated. As long as it's a good game with an awesome battle system and storyline then I'll get it. Ehhh, it doesn't really matter. I just want the game. :P

[Allen Walker]

Why does anyone think its gonna be rated M? Its not like the Versus guy is gonna T-Bag the main heroine or something. And Blood ZOMFG!! IZ SO BAD!!! THE EM0S WILL BE BEING PUSHED TO TEH LIMIT!!

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Why does anyone think its gonna be rated M? Its not like the Versus guy is gonna T-Bag the main heroine or something. And Blood ZOMFG!! IZ SO BAD!!! THE EM0S WILL BE BEING PUSHED TO TEH LIMIT!!

lol good point, they wouldn't make it M :nod:

...Besides, I like blood :shifty:

[N O C T E]

Who does not like blood?:blink:

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

... The evil oatmeal cookies :rolleyes:

[Ultima Star]

I guess that everybody likes blood and bloody games here :shifty:

[N O C T E]

Yep. We promote violence!;)

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Yeah! *stabs someone*

[N O C T E]

Oh no! we can't do that, its off topic......:shifty:

[Terros]

Ok we already know from the first extended trailer that this game is gonna be bloody. Now back to the plot, in a trailer it is announced over the radio that a "cold war" has ended. Do you think this is just a lie so that people don't realize what's really going on?

[Desi]

Well a cold war is known as a war without actual violence but the use of threats, intimidation, and politics. They stormed up to his manor so yes it has ended.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Ok we already know from the first extended trailer that this game is gonna be bloody. Now back to the plot, in a trailer it is announced over the radio that a "cold war" has ended. Do you think this is just a lie so that people don't realize what's really going on?



The cold war can't end at the beginning of the game!! probably it starts again or something

[Desi]

The extended trailer hasn't been released to the public yet. Should know this by now.

[Terros]

Yep, but since the new trailer came out you'd think they could release it.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Ohhh <_<

So ya'll just read about it, right?

[N O C T E]

Yep. we find the info by scanning the web when we are bored like I have been doing fo rthe last hour....:(

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I get bored when I scan the web, I'd rather get offline and draw :D

[N O C T E]

Oh. draw while scanning the web.:P

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Hey! Good idea! *gives Lucifers a cookie for thanks*

[Terros]

That's what I do, I draw as well as surf the web...kudos for multitasking.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I open lots of tabs and do different things at once :)

But then I get bored more easily like that :blink:

[Terros]

Any ways, we need to stay on topic. Here's an important plot point, why is Storm the only member of his family?

[Desi]

We already discussed that.

[Terros]

Well does anyone has anything? I got nothing.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Why is he so gloomy? :blink:

[Terros]

It's a dark game, but he probably has something on his mind.

[Alphonse]

Yeah. What she said.

[Allen Walker]

I'm too lazy to read the whole thread.

But if the plot has deep character development, plot twists, lots of emotion, tense situations, no politics, and a evil villian then I'm good.

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

I'm too lazy to read the whole thread.

But if the plot has deep character development, plot twists, lots of emotion, tense situations, no politics, and a evil villian then I'm good.

I would like more than one evil villian, but definitely no politics, there's enough in the real world <_<

[Terros]

There will be some politics because this is having to due with a power struggle between countries.

[Alphonse]

That sounds cool! Ther might be politics but thats not the bad guy! Its going to be a person(s)!

[Allen Walker]

I don't want a dictator as a villian. DX

[Ultima Star]

Me neither..I want someone that is crazy XD....but what about another king?

[Alphonse]

Na. How about an evil corporation guy!

[Ultima Star]

It has already been used

[Alphonse]

That sucks! I dont know then! I want an evil corporation guy!

[N O C T E]

I don't want a dictator as a villian. DX

What if they did like they do in MGS and have a team but instead of you killing them off one by one there is deception and they kill themselves off and at the end of the game, the people who you thought were your friends are your enemies and vice versa.

[Lifrasthir]

What if they did like they do in MGS and have a team but instead of you killing them off one by one there is deception and they kill themselves off and at the end of the game, the people who you thought were your friends are your enemies and vice versa.

You like comparing different video game plots don't you? :blink: Ah well, Square could use some concepts like that but since it's already been used I don't think they could take the whole idea.

A kingdom sleeps.
And children make groans that are never diminished
nor can they hope

When the trailer music talks about this (assuming that the translations are accurate) what does it mean by "A kingdom sleeps"? What about the children? Why are they "groaning" and why can't they hope? (I've forgotten if we've discussed this so I'm bringing it back up.)

[N O C T E]

You like comparing different video game plots don't you? :blink:

Yes, I do and I thought of that because I just beat MGS3 again this weekend.:D One of the best games ever made.....

[Lifrasthir]

Yes, I do and I thought of that because I just beat MGS3 again this weekend.:D One of the best games ever made.....

Lol, congradulations! :D

[N O C T E]

Thank you, I deserve it too. I was up 'till 4 in the morning yesterday to finish it....It was worth it.:D

[Lifrasthir]

Thank you, I deserve it too. I was up 'till 4 in the morning yesterday to finish it....It was worth it.:D

Wow :blink:. I did that with Kingdom Hearts 2...

Anyways back on topic.

[Ultima Star]

I also did that with KH2 XD

Anyways...killing themselves? think that'd work for a FF game?......

[N O C T E]

By "themselves" I mean that the members of the unit, group, whatever you want to call it, would slowly kill itself because of corruption and deception of the members.

Understand?:blink:

[Allen Walker]

A kingdom sleeps.
And children make groans that are never diminished
nor can they hope

I saw this on a fan made trailer. You copycat. D:<

[Ultima Star]

By "themselves" I mean that the members of the unit, group, whatever you want to call it, would slowly kill itself because of corruption and deception of the members.

Understand?:blink:

I understand L-A I understand:nod:

[Terros]

I saw this on a fan made trailer. You copycat. D:<
Who's a copy cat? Did I miss something?

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

By "themselves" I mean that the members of the unit, group, whatever you want to call it, would slowly kill itself because of corruption and deception of the members.

Understand?:blink:

Ooo that sounds awesome!! I like big words.... XD

[Allen Walker]

Who's a copy cat? Did I miss something?

The quote that she made came from the FFv13 trailer, but a fan added those words in it.

[Terros]

That's probably what she meant.

[Lifrasthir]

What did I do? :blink:

[Terros]

Nevermind, don't worry about it, it's not that important.

[Alphonse]

Yo! Were are we now!?

[Terros]

No where at the moment.

[Allen Walker]

Alright, um..... somebody come up with an idea for the plot.

[Alphonse]

Ummmmmmmmm.............................. Im not good at that. Sorry.

[Allen Walker]

Mk then, I've been on a few FFv13 boards and a couple of resonses I've read from some think that the trailer actually takes place later in the game. Kind of like how FF10 started out with Tidus saying, "Listen to my story." I don't believe that because that would be spoilerish. D:

[Lifrasthir]

When the trailer says, "And children make groans that are never diminished
nor can they hope" what are your thoughts.

[Allen Walker]

Sorry, but those are fan-made quotes. :/

[Alphonse]

Yeah but it must be true! Those sre quotes from the song!

[Lifrasthir]

Well, I've stated oh, how many times, that I'm assuming those are accurate because more than one person's translation came up with that.

[Alphonse]

Well, I've stated oh, how many times, that I'm assuming those are accurate because more than one person's translation came up with that.

Exacty! Why would they lie! Those are accurate tranlations to me!

[Terros]

In regards to that quote, children could mean anything from literal children to the soldiers fighting in the armies. Think: example "We are all children of god."

[Alphonse]

Yeah. Good point! I want to know what it really meens!

[Terros]

Well you'll have to wait till the game comes out.

[Alphonse]

Yeah! That sucks!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Terros]

Lots of things suck, you'll just have to deal.

[Ultima Star]

I just hope he knows how to deal with them though :rolleyes:

[Terros]

He'll have too, cause if he does anything crazy, he may not get to see the game...

[Lifrasthir]

Hm...that could be true. So if so, why are the soldiers groaning and why can't they ever hope? Is it cause of war or what? (I know we'll just have to wait for the game but this is something to talk about.)

[Terros]

I guess...something like that...

[Lifrasthir]

Ack. I'm running out of ideas..:'(

[Ultima Star]

Why? Have we cover everything?..there's no more things to talk about WHYYYYYYY:(

[N O C T E]

Why? Because we have already over thought every concept we know about.

[Ultima Star]

.......Can't we come up we something else then L-A?...dont' shoot me down like that:(

[N O C T E]

I was not shooting YOU down per se, more like every one who over thought about the game.

And I don't know if we can come up with some thing else. I might just wait 'till E3.

[Lifrasthir]

So does this mean this is a dead thread?

[Terros]

This thread has been dying for a while. Until more info is released in regards to the story, this thread is on hold.

[Ultima Star]

So then we'll have to wait until we have more info right Terros?

[Terros]

So then we'll have to wait until we have more info right Terros? Yes we'll have to wait. *taps fingers* Here we go...

[Lifrasthir]

Yeah, the fun waiting game again. </sarcastic>

[Terros]

Man there's nothing else to due in this thread but Spam! And I hate too much spam.

[Lifrasthir]

Unless the spam has to do with how gorgeous V is right?

[N O C T E]

Unless the spam has to do with how gorgeous V is right?

Did Dante not say that he would shut down these threads if there was too much spam?:blink:
Also, TF, in you Sig, there should b a comma between crash & love.:nod:

[Ultima Star]

Unless the spam has to do with how gorgeous V is right?

I want to talk how gorgeous Storm is too^_^ but..that's spam :(

[Alphonse]

Okay. Were are we? What are we talking about?

[Lifrasthir]

Did Dante not say that he would shut down these threads if there was too much spam?:blink:
Also, TF, in you Sig, there should b a comma between crash & love.:nod:

Yeah he did. I was actually kidding. :D

>_< I'll fix it. I was so miffed about the stupid border I didn't check my spelling.

[Terros]

Okay. Were are we? What are we talking about?
We aren't talking about anything cause there's nothing for us to talk about at the moment, so let's stop before this thread gets closed.

[Alphonse]

Okay! Um................... How about the crystals again! What do you think if the crystal gets taken away what will happen to the guy!?

[Ultima Star]

..I don't know if we have discussed that yet..and if we did I wasn't here >_<

[XxFeaRLeSsxX]

Nothing would happen to the Versus guy but there will be a big war because he would try to get it back

[Ultima Star]

Ok.....I was thinking about...what about if the crystal is connected somehow with his life...

[Alphonse]

Yeah! Well his family have been guarding the crystals for a long time so it might be an important part in his life.

[Ultima Star]

..well..what I said..was something way different

[N O C T E]

Have we not talked about that before?:blink:

[Ultima Star]

Um..I dunno if we talked about it I wasn't here XD
Well actually I was sayin that perhaps if the crystal was destroyed....

[Terros]

Didn't I say this topic was dying, we really can't make any more inferences until we get more info on the story.

[Ultima Star]

>_< don't say it's dying

[N O C T E]

Ok then, the thread is in a coma.

[Alphonse]

LOL Yeah. Its just waiting for more info.

[Ultima Star]

In coma :'( NO!! in a waiting status

[N O C T E]

Yes, in a coma. It should stay that way......its for the best interest of the thread.

[Ultima Star]

Well...let's wait then..it's better in coma than dead :(

[Alphonse]

Yeah. Its better to just wait for a few months.

[Terros]

I recommend this thread be closed UNTIL further information is released.

[Alphonse]

Well I agree.
*Thread Closed Until Further Information*

[Ultima Star]

well..yeah you are right.
I officially close this thread XD
But I prefer Terros to close it..REALLY

[Terros]

Someone please close this thread, until further notice.

[Ultima Star]

Yeah it's better closed than spammed, so can an admin come and close this thread?

[Lifrasthir]

Hehehehe, DANTE!!!!!! :D

[Desi]

Well I agree.
*Thread Closed Until Further Information*Your "close" always gets me. You do know you aren't a mod right?

[N O C T E]

Or all of you could be sensible enough to just not post in it until we get more info.

[Allen Walker]

Not trying to be offensive, but can some of you guys stop spamming so much because its hard for others to post their opinion. :/

[Fenristh]

Or all of you could be sensible enough to just not post in it until we get more info.
You'd think so wouldnt you. :rolleyes:

No more posting crap here until we get more info or it will be closed like the others.

[jenny_kumiko]

Does the main character is bad ass????

[Collabarateur]

You guys need to take all FF history into context.

They have had two types of characters.

1. Cool silent protaganist with some sort of emo issue
(e.G. Cloud, Squall, and now "Storm" or whatever his name is)
2. Cheerful happy, naiive stupid.
(e.g. Tidus and Vaan...GAY!!!)

So now that FFXII had a cheerful idiotic hero, they now need the I'm-too-cool-for-this-realm hero.
I love Square. Gets me everytime

[Whiplash]

True, and I agree that Versus' protagonist falls into the first category, but there are characters who have broken this mould. FFVI for example and, though I haven't played IX, I believe Zidane doesn't exactly fall into those categories (maybe 2-ish).

I'm willing to blame Nomura and write XII off as a fluke.

[Terros]

I don't think all the characters fit those catagories.

[Naunen]

Seems quite like offending categories. Each character to their own! :cunning:

[Terros]

Further more, you can't say he fits a character simply because of how he looks. He doesn't look emo to me in the trailers at all, he looks like some one who is giving a lot of thought to something.

[terek]

You guys need to take all FF history into context.

They have had two types of characters.

1. Cool silent protaganist with some sort of emo issue
(e.G. Cloud, Squall, and now "Storm" or whatever his name is)
2. Cheerful happy, naiive stupid.
(e.g. Tidus and Vaan...GAY!!!)

So now that FFXII had a cheerful idiotic hero, they now need the I'm-too-cool-for-this-realm hero.
I love Square. Gets me everytime

:D emo issues ahahaha, lol thats dam funny... anyway judging from the coolness of the new extend trailer (eventho 5 sec) I REALLY HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH THE CHARACTER BATTLE SKILL!!!! OMG!!! he just like teleport himself a bit distance... its freaking cool!!! I WANT TO SEE MORE!!!!!!!

anyway, if the interview with the game developer hint that the game plot story will be a tragic... there are also the issue of the main character being good and evil at the same times hence the trailer shows the Shakespeare words... i just read it at other versus forum site... also the game developer said that this Final fantasy 13 title will the most darkest ever...

Not that interested in what the gameplay or battle system will be, but im really interested in the plot storyline and the character development.

p/s: im new here :P sory if me english bad

[Ringlets]

The Cloud DVD trailer makes it look like he can teleport either with or to his weapons. It also looks like, although many people thing he's the last of a dynasty-type thing, that he has some kind of service working for him, due to the convoy of cars.

[N O C T E]

The Cloud DVD trailer makes it look like he can teleport either with or to his weapons. It also looks like, although many people thing he's the last of a dynasty-type thing, that he has some kind of service working for him, due to the convoy of cars.

Well, if he is the last of a line of Kings, his father mi9ght have been killed at an early age, therefore making the convoy of cars his fathers servants who now serve him with the utmost loyalty.

[Ringlets]

Well, if he is the last of a line of Kings, his father mi9ght have been killed at an early age, therefore making the convoy of cars his fathers servants who now serve him with the utmost loyalty.

Thats probably more likely. The roads are otherwise empty so it must mean that these guards have some power and aren't just a taxi service for him.

[N O C T E]

Thats probably more likely. The roads are otherwise empty so it must mean that these guards have some power and aren't just a taxi service for him.

Or that there is a war going on and all of the other people are dead or at home.

[Ultima Star]

I say dead or maybe he has just..make them evacuate ..he's royalty..has to care fo rhis people...NOT

[Naunen]

I read somewhere that he is the last heir to the throne. I wonder who it was driving the car he was in. I can't remember but didn't it say somewhere on the Internet?

[Terros]

He may be the last family member, but HE IS ROYALTY, he would have servants and soldiers!

[Ultima Star]

that's the point..he has like 4 cars..bodyguards? nah I dont think so.

[Terros]

For royalty four cars of bodyguards makes PERFECT SENSE. Think about, when you see the president being driven don't the have like two cars in back and two in front? And not to mention several other vehicals.

[Naunen]

If he's royalty, where are his soldiers and servants? Are those his sentries lying dead outside? If the soldiers intruded upon the kingdom, do you think they might've slaughtered people? After all, if they're after the Crystal, you'd think they stormed right through. With the destruction from the fight, you'd think there were no inhabitants about.

[Anima]

For royalty four cars of bodyguards makes PERFECT SENSE. Think about, when you see the president being driven don't the have like two cars in back and two in front? And not to mention several other vehicals.



Same thing happens for the President of the United States....and he sure as hell ain't royalty. >_>

[Ringlets]

I can't remember but didn't it say somewhere on the Internet?

If it would say anywhere, it would say it here. Wikipedia can't be trusted and other FFXIII sites are probably only just finding this trailer.

But when you think about it, these bodyguards cant be that good because they they're all dead (corpses outside palace?).

[Cilvia]

off top: Anima, wtf,you stole my signature!!!!!
is there any new info about third trailer? when we gonna see it?
and i dont think these soldiers will be a problem in game, they like robots, no brains at all

[Whiplash]

But when you think about it, these bodyguards cant be that good because they they're all dead (corpses outside palace?).

What's the point of even having them if he's strong enough to take care of himself?

Decorative corpses?

[Thefutureisnow]

Militarily you should only make an attack if you outnumber your opposition 3 to 1, that they used 100+ soldiers as an invasion force is ludicrus unless the city's population had evacuated or are dead, which seems unlikely as I saw no collateral damage to buildings or the road, which is a given considering they can deploy rocket launchers, i would be supprised if that was the only explosive divice in their arsenal.

[Terros]

He may not like having guards around, remember we've only seen one battle and we don't know what all the circumstances of that fight were, therefore to say that he doesn't have servants simply because you don't see them in ONE trailer, is ridiculous! We don't know how he lives when he's not on battlefield, and as for how the enemy got in the city we weren't shown how they entered. Further there was no damage to the buildings mean that there probably wasn't a struggle getting into the city. What I'm saying is this:

The fact there there is no damage to the city from the enemy means there are only a very few explainations as to how they got there.

1) They entered the city by air, via helicopter or something.

...or...

2) There were always in the city to begin with, maybe the soldiers aren't hired by another country, maybe they're a resistence group with the versus characters city itself. That would explain why the attack force was so small. Also from how the enemy functioned in the fight it didn't seem like they were very experienced or trained soldiers, whick could reinforce this theory.

[Naunen]

He may not like having guards around, remember we've only seen one battle and we don't know what all the circumstances of that fight were, therefore to say that he doesn't have servants simply because you don't see them in ONE trailer, is ridiculous! We don't know how he lives when he's not on battlefield, and as for how the enemy got in the city we weren't shown how they entered. Further there was no damage to the buildings mean that there probably wasn't a struggle getting into the city. What I'm saying is this:

The fact there there is no damage to the city from the enemy means there are only a very few explainations as to how they got there.

1) They entered the city by air, via helicopter or something.

...or...

2) There were always in the city to begin with, maybe the soldiers aren't hired by another country, maybe they're a resistence group with the versus characters city itself. That would explain why the attack force was so small. Also from how the enemy functioned in the fight it didn't seem like they were very experienced or trained soldiers, whick could reinforce this theory.

----That's it there then. A trained or experienced force wouldn't expect such resistance from a Prince. I mean, if I were them, I sure as hell wouldn't expect him to be a formidable force already. Judging from those dead sentries, the soldiers probably killed the others they saw 'cause it wouldn't matter much to them. They wouldn't waste time maybe so that's why no damage to the city. If the palace is in the center of the city and I were them, I'd make for that right away and eliminate those on the way there.

[Terros]

REALISTICALLY speaking, no country would simply just allow an enemy to walk into it's city. There would have been some sort of fight which would lead to there being some damage to the city around the battle area. Bottom line, if you shoot a machine gun off in a city, you are bound to hit something, and that would qualify as damage. I think the solidiers where hired by some other high ranking citizen (maybe a nobleman), WITHIN the city who wants to get rid of the prince and get the crystal. Remeber he is the last memeber of his family that didn't happen by itself, something caused it.

I think the enemy was hired from within the city because a noble(s) could probably afford an attack force the size of the one that attacked the prince. An enemy country would have sent a much larger force.

[Anima]

off top: Anima, wtf,you stole my signature!!!!!
is there any new info about third trailer? when we gonna see it?
and i dont think these soldiers will be a problem in game, they like robots, no brains at all


^ I've had that sig forever. =| Got it off a site.....sorry I'll make a new one in Photoshop then if it angers you so much.

[Whiplash]

Maybe his country has turned against him, ala Macbeth (although Macbeth wasn't really a legitimate claimant to the throne).

:O The main villain can be called Cromwell! (I'm better at names than theories :cunning:)

[Naunen]

Realistically speaking, nations may not allow for foreign invasion but treaties and such had been broken. Meaning, if his kingdom is perhaps one of the most advanced civilization, the outer world would be entirely different. Judging from how he easily stabbed through such armour, the enemies wouldn't give a damn to an advanced kingdom's laws. Much like Spain vs. the Inca. Disclaimer: Not that I am saying Spain is less advanced than Inca or vice versa but that is a matter of opinion.