360 Sales Quintupled in Jap.

[Pixel]

So, I really usually despise these threads, but I think its safe to say this should be discussed:

http://kotaku.com/5060877/360-sales-have-doubled-in-us-more-than-doubled-in-europe-quintupled-in-japan

It seems that every time the PS3 gains a little ground, the 360 beats its face back into the ground. :wtf:

Valve was just starting to recognize it even exists and now the 360 sales are going through the roof. Do you guys think the PS3 will EVENTUALLY pull through?

I prefer to say yes, but with a slew of PS titles that have always been on the PS going to M$ (I am talking to you Tekken), seems hopeless unless ALL of the new PS3 IP's are good, and I mean all. Mainly I say this because, M$ is still pumping out good, new IP's and games all of the time. And all of those Halo 3 sales? I bet they will repeat with the new Prequel called Recon. :wtf:

OPINIONS? :aldo:

EDITZ: I think this sums it up quite nicely :aldo::

I think this price cut is Microsofts slash at the jugluar of Sony. Everything has led up to this. Getting Exclusives to go multiplatform, Nabbing some impressive exclusives, improving live, and getting some much better 1st party games this time around.

MS has all they need, now they can just start a war of attrition. If sales like this continue, Sony will have to lower prices to keep up, thus losing more money. This holiday should be interesting

[Sadistic]

I think that once Square-Enix releases some more PS3 exclusives the sales of the console are going to skyrocket. I think this high amount of 360 sales can be put to the multiplatform Final Fantasy XIII news. ;)

[Shock]

Just give Sony's console a few more years until the developers start to use it's full potential. I don't know if Xbox 360 will catch up to it and by then Wii HD will have probably been released. Lastly in my opinion Ps3 sure won't beat the Ps2 sales but it will have a chance to show the Xbox 360 what it's made of.

[Xion]

The 360 is in a good spot with a great library, great number of upcoming games, and great price....you cant really argue with that.

[olorin818]

yeh the only reason behind this must be due to those few Xbox RPG exlusives. Hopefully SONY will catch up with it.

[Kätharina]

The 360 is now 129.99 in England, shit, I'd go out and buy another 360 for that price.
It has an uber mass of good and epic titles, no wonder people are choosing it. :aldo:

Nothing wrong with the PS3 apart from the fecking price tag.
Oh and the fact it CORRUPTED MY LITTLE BIG PLANET BETA SAVE :nag:

[Neal]

There's been nothing out in Japan for PS3, while 360 has had two J-RPGs :wtf: Thinks will pick up again but LBP and Resistance etc are released.


I think this price cut is Microsofts slash at the jugluar of Sony. Everything has led up to this. Getting Exclusives to go multiplatform, Nabbing some impressive exclusives, improving live, and getting some much better 1st party games this time around.rofl what? they make it seem as though it was selling 10 k and week and now it's selling 40k a week. It still hasn't reach a million over there, this is by no means a "slash at their jugular".

I also don't get this whole "omg no third party exclusives" thing. Sony has loads of studios making loads of first party exclusives. The consumer doesn't give a fuck who's made the game if it's good. :aldo:

Oh and the fact it CORRUPTED MY LITTLE BIG PLANET BETA SAVE :nag:LOL OMG PWNT

[Kätharina]

LOL OMG PWNT

I'm bitch slapping you on the full game. IN MAH OLD SNAKE COSTUME. OMFG.

[Moklin]

Xbox 360 has many exclusive rpgs like Infiite Undiscovery, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odissey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia...
This combine with a low price and the japanese philosofhy "if they bought it i have to buy it too" it makes 360 a sucess.

[Pixel]

Xbox 360 has many exclusive rpgs like Infiite Undiscovery, Star Ocean 4, Lost Odissey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia...
This combine with a low price and the japanese philosofhy "if they bought it i have to buy it too" it makes 360 a sucess.

I think america has that philosophy too you dick. :wtf:

[Hitoshura]

I think america has that philosophy too you dick. :wtf:

lol

But Moklin has a point, the PS3 really doesnt have that many JRPGs. Until we start seeing more JRPGs on the PS3, expect the sales number to stay at 10k every week.

[The Lightning]

I do not think that the Playstation 3 will have the rebound that (biased) fans of the system keep saying it will have. The reason I say this is because the Xbox 360 not only has a year start on it, but the features and games library makes the Xbox 360 the prime system to get. And let's face it, when Christmas comes around in this economy, I think people will be more tempted to buy a $199 system over a $500 system, but that's just in America (although the economic troubles are global).

When you have a library of games like the Xbox 360 coupled with the Xbox LIVE service (seriously, it's only $50 bucks a year, a dog could afford that), a long with the price, it's the winning formula. Sony is depending on a 10 year cycle, hell, in 10 years the Xbox 360 will have moved on to an even better system (for our purposes, Xbox 720) and the Wii HD. No one will care when the time comes.

Hell, I don't see why anyone cares, it's just a gaming system...

Now to finish my long wall of text out, look, MGS4 was suppose to be the 'big' game to save PS3, compared to Halo 3, it didn't make a dent.

Okay, that really sounded like a marketing ploy...ugh.

[Xion]

PS3 is $399 not $499, you know, price of entry

Other than that ill i have to say is that ive learned to not bother supporting the 360 in this place, it just makes you a target.

[Shana]

PS3 is $399 not $499, you know, price of entry

Other than that ill i have to say is that ive learned to not bother supporting the 360 in this place, it just makes you a target.TARGET DETECTED!

AIM'N FIRE!

:nagase: I C WUT U DID DER

I've been active on the Pc than the PS3 but more on the 360 than the PS3 but the 360 isn't as active as the Pc playing Sacred 2.

[Hitoshura]

PS3 is $399 not $499, you know, price of entry

Other than that ill i have to say is that ive learned to not bother supporting the 360 in this place, it just makes you a target.

Feeling a little insecure are ya? :rolleyes:

[monkeyJ]

meh i'm a hardcore PS3 supporter so i'll stick with it and say
i think that it'll pick up soon enough with a couple titles on the way

[Kätharina]

Geh, I'd only play my 360 more if it'd stop RROD'ing on me. The only way to actually keep it cool is to have a damn separate fan next to it, with one of the side panels open so i don't feel so fucking insure on the fact that it 'might' die.

Nothing wrong with stick up for the 360 here, but its just the fact that most people have a PS3, and will ultimately get into a bitch fight with anybody who contradicts or says hurtful things about the PS3, please. I got over being a fan of one console a year ago. I bothered to try the 360 and it is good, it dies on me on occasions, but its good, and has some AAA titles.
Where as the PS3 has AAA titles, just not enough to convince people to invest within a PS3, let alone even consider buy the console because of the price tag it has compared to the 360.

I can pick up a PS3 in England for around 250-300 pounds, still thats too much for me, even despite me buying a launch console, but i was fagging out and went into the 'i want it now' mode with my dad during that time.

[Dream Machine]

I'm only gonna get a 360 right at the end of this generation; when it and all the exclusive games are really cheap and hopefully they sort out the whole RROD thingy.

I do think the sales spike in Japan is a temporary thing to be honest though, once White Knight comes out it'll probably be a different story.

[Neal]

Geh, I'd only play my 360 more if it'd stop RROD'ing on me. The only way to actually keep it cool is to have a damn separate fan next to it, with one of the side panels open so i don't feel so fucking insure on the fact that it 'might' die.

Nothing wrong with stick up for the 360 here, but its just the fact that most people have a PS3, and will ultimately get into a bitch fight with anybody who contradicts or says hurtful things about the PS3, please. I got over being a fan of one console a year ago. I bothered to try the 360 and it is good, it dies on me on occasions, but its good, and has some AAA titles.
Where as the PS3 has AAA titles, just not enough to convince people to invest within a PS3, let alone even consider buy the console because of the price tag it has compared to the 360.

I can pick up a PS3 in England for around 250-300 pounds, still thats too much for me, even despite me buying a launch console, but i was fagging out and went into the 'i want it now' mode with my dad during that time.
I think it's more down to the type of game really. Xbox 360 is notorious for it's FPS' and action games which aren't Japan oriented. The 360 is cheaper than the Wii out there, and the sales spike has only just happened because some Japanese RPGs were released.

I think the spike will drop soon, but it's going to go straight back up again when The Last Remnant comes out. Judging from how these games actually sell (Despite their usual pretty good first day sales) I don't think these 3 or 4 exclusive RPGs are going to make much of a difference to the 360's overall position. According to VGChartz (Not always that creditable, but whatever) Infinite Undiscovery has slowed right down at 240,000 copies... It's 4th week ended at 16,000 units, and in Japan it's down to less than 2,000.

[Xion]

Infinite Undiscovery came out a month ago in japan, yet the 360 is still outselling the PS3... its selling on the weight of the price drop and not the new RPG's anymore. This means that sales will stay rather high (for 360) and spike again when Last Remnant comes. It shouldnt hit rock bottom at the 1K a week mark like it used to anymore. PS3 sales will just keep crusing at the 7-9K mark as usual.

[Neal]

It's outsold it last week by about 300 consoles. The % drop is much faster than that of the PS3, give it another two or so weeks and the PS3 will be on top again, I reckon. Although, I would be surprised if the 360 dropped all the way down to 1,000 again.

[Xion]

It's outsold it last week by about 300 consoles. The % drop is much faster than that of the PS3, give it another two or so weeks and the PS3 will be on top again, I reckon.


people have said that for 3 weeks now. I think its being underestimated. Shure, PS3 will likely overtake it again soon, but i see them selling around the same for atleast a while.

where did you get 300 console difference from?

• Xbox 360 - 8,271
• PlayStation 3 - 7,232

Not a big difference, but its not 300. :lol:

[Neal]

VGChartz:

Xbox 360: 7,893
PlayStation 3: 7,559

http://www.vgchartz.com/japweekly.php

Like I said I don't know how reliable they are but I don't know of any better place for that kind of thing.

[Pixel]

Infinite Undiscovery came out a month ago in japan, yet the 360 is still outselling the PS3... its selling on the weight of the price drop and not the new RPG's anymore. This means that sales will stay rather high (for 360) and spike again when Last Remnant comes. It shouldnt hit rock bottom at the 1K a week mark like it used to anymore. PS3 sales will just keep crusing at the 7-9K mark as usual.

You are underestimating White Knight Chronicles. :wtf:

Once it comes out maybe the PS3 will soar MEBBEZ.

EDIT: And yes, the 360 is notorious for its FPS and Action titles, but, it at least has some JRPG's. Right now the PS3 is not notorius for.... anything.

[Xion]

VGChartz:

Xbox 360: 7,893
PlayStation 3: 7,559

http://www.vgchartz.com/japweekly.php

Like I said I don't know how reliable they are but I don't know of any better place for that kind of thing.

numbers i posted were from media create, they provide the japanese numbers os soprry VG cjharts is not reliable. anyway, who cares im so fuckingdrunk right now i cant see what the hell im doing
:blink::blink::lol::lol:

[Neal]

Oh, yeah theyre more fact than VG. You could've said where you got your numbers. Even so that gap should close in a week or so.

Drunk on the internet. Oh, you're cool :wtf:

[Xion]

lol yeah i was pretty messed up last night....

[Kurai Warrior]

So much potential for the PS3 and its all going to waste because Sony isn't getting enough titles out and Sony is not working hard enough to keep its exclusives.
1) Assassins Creed
2) Devil May Cry 4
3) Tekken 6
4) Final Fantasy XIII
5) Grand Theft Auto IV
6) Silent Hill Homecoming *even though I heard it sucked*
7) Resident Evil 5
All Of these games went multiplat and boy has it hurt Sony
I will never regret getting a PS3 but MS is really kicking Sony's ass right now...
LBP and White Knight Story should help though.
As for Japan, who knows because The Last Remnant and Star Ocean 4 are coming out.

[Sundance Kid]

Yeah same here, I don't regret it but the whole "360 is better" thing gets annoying especially when I hear it every single fucking day I work. I just am not an MS fan I've always been a Sony person and all the titles on the 360 that I want/would like are on the ps3 to. So it really isnt much of a loss or anything for me. And GoW won't go to 360 (if I remember someone mentioning so) because it's a Sony produced/published/whatever game same as Resistance. Sony needs to make more Sony in-studio games that'll help sales for sure.

[Xion]

So much potential for the PS3 and its all going to waste because Sony isn't getting enough titles out and Sony is not working hard enough to keep its exclusives.
1) Assassins Creed
2) Devil May Cry 4
3) Tekken 6
4) Final Fantasy XIII
5) Grand Theft Auto IV
6) Silent Hill Homecoming *even though I heard it sucked*
7) Resident Evil 5
All Of these games went multiplat and boy has it hurt Sony
I will never regret getting a PS3 but MS is really kicking Sony's ass right now...
LBP and White Knight Story should help though.
As for Japan, who knows because The Last Remnant and Star Ocean 4 are coming out.


to be fair, Silent Hill 5, GTA4 and Assasins creed were never exclusive to begin with. BUT, as people had been knocking me for saying for a long time now, Sony has made a huge mistake in beleiving that they dont need third party exclusives, and allowing MS to get all these games that, even if not exclusive, still have them on their platform like the main Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry and Tekken..games that were sinonymous with Playstation. >_<

Those were games that were part of playstations identity, and even tho im glad they are on 360 (so i can play them) its still shocking to see sony let them slip out. Thats all i have to say, atleast im glad that other people are seeing things the way i have for a long time and not knocking me when i say them.

[Sundance Kid]

In all honesty as much as I'm a huge Tekken fan and Sony fan and it going multi plat it's really a good idea in part that it'll bring more people into the Tekken fandom (if you know what I mean) but Sony needs to step up their game seriously. But I just think they started off really bad and over hyped it opening day. Now they gotta get out of the gutter and start making games. I honestly think next year will be alot better for Sony. And I'm not hating on 360 or anything...

[Xion]

No for shure, no hate there at all...and its all constructive critisism for Sony..i hope i spelled that right lol

[Sundance Kid]

haha constructive

But yeah I got ya.
360 is teaming up with people and making deals and shit Sony needs to get into that area to, and get some connections and people willing to get into the Sony biz. I mean the ps3 has some serious potential.

[The Lightning]

The following is a rant towards those that use the 'potential' excuse for the Playstation 3. I like all three systems, and as you'll see below, I'll bag on all three. Enjoy this unbiased review of all consoles this generation :P:

I honestly hate hearing the whole story of 'wait till the Playstation 3's potential is finally taped.' Seriously, the excuse get's old, by the time Playstation's potential gets taped, we'll be on Wii 2 HD and Xbox 720 if not Xbox 1080.

I mean seriously, Wii doesn't even have any kind of graphical horsepower, if you take a look at it with a trained eye, it's basically Gamecube 1.5. But look at Wii, it stomped Playstation 3 into the ground and b**** slapped the Xbox 360 and it's not even in HD let alone it's online is like taking two cups and tying a string to it to talk. There's no graphical power left to tap in that system and it continues to outsell every other major next generation system.

And then look at the Xbox 360, it still uses a fricken DVD and still manages to have games that far surpass the graphical power of the Playstation 3. Heck, it's failure rate is higher than the purchase rate of the Playstation 3 - people still buy the damn system and do I even need to tell you what's wrong with that.

The Consoles sell as they do because:

Wii - If you take the "W" and curve it out under "ii" that you flip upside down, it makes a smiley face. Who can deny themselves a console that's a smiley :=).

Xbox 360 - It's big, it's hot, and it's red. Who can deny themselves the red ring experience, coming this fall to an Xbox 360 near you!

Playstation 3 - When I want my American cheeseburger, all I do is turn on my Playforman 3, now with poor man control for tose who think $50's a year is too much.

Fanboys whine as much as they do because (In console order):

Wii Fanboys - They're 8 year old kids who claim to be 40. Need I say anymore?

Xbox 360 Fanboys - Because they think 'leet' speek is cool and will never have a boy/girl friend because of their lack of social lives.

Playstation 3 Fanboys - We think Blu-Ray is the future and that 'Cell' + 'RSX', although we have no clue what it means, equals potential, potential, potential in 10 years or so when Wii and Xbox will be onto newer technologies.

Go figure...

Edit - wow, it took like two minutes to type that and now my hand hurts.

[Neal]

And then look at the Xbox 360, it still uses a fricken DVD and still manages to have games that far surpass the graphical power of the Playstation 3.That is going to drive people crazy, even though it was a pretty idiotic thing to say. :aldo: Multiplatform games didn't look as good on PS3 because it's different architecture, but I don't recall a 360 game that even touches Uncharted or certainly not Killzone 2.

Oh, and graphical power is absolutely nothing to do with the type of disc they use. God do some research first plz `

[Xion]

Oh, and graphical power is absolutely nothing to do with the type of disc they use. God do some research first plz `


Im glad you have informed yourself.

[Caelignis]

The following is a rant towards those that use the 'potential' excuse for the Playstation 3. I like all three systems, and as you'll see below, I'll bag on all three. Enjoy this unbiased review of all consoles this generation :P:

I honestly hate hearing the whole story of 'wait till the Playstation 3's potential is finally taped.' Seriously, the excuse get's old, by the time Playstation's potential gets taped, we'll be on Wii 2 HD and Xbox 720 if not Xbox 1080.

I mean seriously, Wii doesn't even have any kind of graphical horsepower, if you take a look at it with a trained eye, it's basically Gamecube 1.5. But look at Wii, it stomped Playstation 3 into the ground and b**** slapped the Xbox 360 and it's not even in HD let alone it's online is like taking two cups and tying a string to it to talk. There's no graphical power left to tap in that system and it continues to outsell every other major next generation system.

And then look at the Xbox 360, it still uses a fricken DVD and still manages to have games that far surpass the graphical power of the Playstation 3. Heck, it's failure rate is higher than the purchase rate of the Playstation 3 - people still buy the damn system and do I even need to tell you what's wrong with that.

The Consoles sell as they do because:

Wii - If you take the "W" and curve it out under "ii" that you flip upside down, it makes a smiley face. Who can deny themselves a console that's a smiley :=).

Xbox 360 - It's big, it's hot, and it's red. Who can deny themselves the red ring experience, coming this fall to an Xbox 360 near you!

Playstation 3 - When I want my American cheeseburger, all I do is turn on my Playforman 3, now with poor man control for tose who think $50's a year is too much.

Fanboys whine as much as they do because (In console order):

Wii Fanboys - They're 8 year old kids who claim to be 40. Need I say anymore?

Xbox 360 Fanboys - Because they think 'leet' speek is cool and will never have a boy/girl friend because of their lack of social lives.

Playstation 3 Fanboys - We think Blu-Ray is the future and that 'Cell' + 'RSX', although we have no clue what it means, equals potential, potential, potential in 10 years or so when Wii and Xbox will be onto newer technologies.

Go figure...

Edit - wow, it took like two minutes to type that and now my hand hurts.

Good job, have a cookie :aldo:

[Neal]

Im glad you have informed yourself.
When did I ever think that? gtfo.

[Kätharina]

lol yeah i was pretty messed up last night....

Should have slipped some date rape in there for that EXTRA KICK. :wtf:

[Xion]

When did I ever think that? gtfo.

That was a compliment! do i make your skin crawl so strongly that even my nice words come through to you as evil and degenerative? Jeezz :rolleyes:

Anyway, here we are with 360 outselling PS3 in Japan for the 5th week in a row, and this time theres a larger gap

• Xbox 360 - 7,763
• PlayStation 3 - 5,734

Sony needs to do something...