The Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Senses: A Theory, Psychic Abilities, and the Paranormal

[IBeatSephiroth]

I post this in Serious Discussion because I wish to actually be listened to as apposed to being shunned as 'some kid with a crazy idea'. Hear me out. This is a thread to discuss what I call the sixth, seventh, and eighth senses, the various psychic abilities and the miscellaneous paranormal.

Almost, if not every species on the face of the planet seems to be able to predict the weather, sense spirits and the Earth's magnetic fields. Except one: Homo Sapiens. I believe I may know why.

First, I will explain what these three 'extra' senses are. We know of the others-- Sight, smell, touch, taste and hearing. But what of the three 'lost' senses? Mythology and ancient records written by civilizations now lost tell of a population full of people who could predict the arrival of storms and other natural disasters and tell which direction was north without any visual or audio aid. These are the seventh and eigth senses.
Throughout history, people (particuarly females) have been named witches because they could see things that had not yet happened. Because they predicted catastrophies and could speak to the dead. This same type of person exists today, those with the 'sixth sense', but they are called psychics.

Psychic abilities aren't confined to seeing the future. To name a few, there's tele/psycokinesis, the ability to see and otherwise contact ghosts, and the fact that twins and other sets of children of one birth can make the same choices and feel the same things despite being on the other side of the planet.
I believe that like every other species, Homo sapiens once possessed all of the mentioned abilities. The reason they are doubted and so rare is because we have gradually evolved out of them as life has become easier. Originally, life for our species was incredibly diffcult, considering how pathetic our physical characteristics are.
Humans have no body armour, next to no hair, short, almost non-existant claws, unpadded feet, and fragile limbs. Our ancestors couldn't develop the superior traits that others had, but a large brain compensated for that problem. As tools were invented, life in all its branches became easier. Once sturdy shelters were built, early humans lost the need to fear storms.

As for the paranormal, I don't understand how belief in ghosts is so rare. Tied semi-permanently to the body is the soul, aka spirit. When the shell expires, the soul either migrates to another, becomes trapped, or advances to the next plane of existance. Ghosts are the trapped souls.
Alas, this doesn't explain why buildings and places are capable of holding memories of the past. Why does Monte Cristo, the most haunted building in Australia, emit an aura of unrest? The ghosts, mostly. Why do the Pyramids at Giza hold such an air of mystery? No, it's not their age.

Phew. That was long, but not the longest I've written.

[Moklin]

I liked the idea. I dont beleive much in ghosts and paranormal things but you have a point.

"fact that twins and other sets of children of one birth can make the same choices and feel the same things"
I m a triplet. I have one brother and one sister with exactly the same age than me and sometimes we do the same thing at the same time but in differnt places and sometimes i can see exactly what my brother or sister is about to do. Althouht i think this is more realtioned with psicology than paranormal.

Homo sapiens once possessed all of the mentioned abilities
That is true. Every Animal can predict earthquakes but homo sapiens sapiens cant. I think we once have abilities like this but we lost them some time in our evolution. In pre-history there are MANY cased of shamans and this kind of things.
Can monkeys predict earthquakes? I will check that. lol

[topgunffx]

I don't believe in any of it, to get the truth i read the Bible. I'm not saying you are crazy or anything, just saying i don't believe in it.

[Moklin]

I don't believe in any of it, to get the truth i read the Bible. I'm not saying you are crazy or anything, just saying i don't believe in it.


Are you catholic ? Only curiosity....

[topgunffx]

nah, Baptist, i'm not saying that if i saw some crazy shit i would deny it, its that i have never seen it and bible has no records of the stuff from what i know.

I am not saying just cuz i can't see it i don't believe it, lol because that would mean my entire beliefs are false too because i have never seen god ya know? I am saying that i haven't seen any paranormal shit in person, i mean there tv shows, but can easily be fake ya know? If bible said it existed i would believe in the stuff more, not like u learn this stuff in church or something ya know? LOL

[Gaia]

Very interesting topic! I'm glad you brought this up ^_^
I'm a type of person who believes in the unexplained or supernatural things, blah blah blah. So that means that I believe in ghosts, spirits, and all of the 'lost senses'. And you brought up some pretty interesting theories, are these all your ideas? Anyways, its true what you said that animals can predict when something is amiss or weather disasters are impending; they can also sense when something horrid is about to happen. But homo sapiens (scientific term for humans) do not have the sixth, seventh, or eighth sense. I think you were right when you said we used to have them, but over time they went away with each advancing generation and no one believes in them anymore. There are a few, like you said, that possess psychic powers and can see and sense spirits- those are the speical and gifted ones. ^_^
But the reality is that ghosts actually exist, they are also known as lost souls. They are the remaining spirits that haven't moved on to the afterlife yet. Many people don't believe in ghosts because we can't see them and because they aren't living. Poltergeists, and specters exist as well- they are remaining spirits that are stuck in the world of the living for some significant reason and cannot move on until their issues are resolved. WHICH brings me to my next point, buildings and other haunted places are capable of holding ghosts because the ghosts are connected to the place in some significant way before their deaths.
For example: a haunted house- a spirit could be stuck there because her husband killed her or whatever and the husband was never brought to justice. Therefore the spirit stays there in the land of the living until her husband is put in jail or something. The spirits won't move on to the afterlife until all of their issues that were accumulated before their deaths are resolved. But not all souls all like that, some people die peaceful or violent deaths but they can still accept it and move onto the next life without any problems. Our souls is what makes us, without a soul a person is not living. Or bodies are just shells or cases for our souls to reside in until our biological clocks run out ;) That is why after we die and our souls leave the empty shell (which is our body) the body rots and becomes nothing but bones because it doesn't have a living soul to keep it alive anymore.
Well all of this is my opinion anyways :rolleyes: Hey, while I'm at all this, has anyone ever heard of the circle of death? Another one of my theories is that when people die, their soul moves on to the afterlife but instead of living there for all eternity they get reborn back onto the earth as a new living person ;) - just my ideas and thoughts anyways. Jeez I typed a lot >_<

[Moklin]

nah, Baptist, i'm not saying that if i saw some crazy shit i would deny it, its that i have never seen it and bible has no records of the stuff from what i know.

I am not saying just cuz i can't see it i don't believe it, lol because that would mean my entire beliefs are false too because i have never seen god ya know? I am saying that i haven't seen any paranormal shit in person, i mean there tv shows, but can easily be fake ya know? If bible said it existed i would believe in the stuff more, not like u learn this stuff in church or something ya know? LOL

Well...i dont beleive it very much too, but it should be some kind of true.
Like you said there is many fake things.

[Little Miss Scarlett]

It makes a lot of sense, a lot more than any religion in my opinion. Ghosts I change my mind alot on. Psychic-ness (no I can't think of a better word), however, I've always... sort of believed. A lot of people talk out of their arses about it, but I do think there are a few people that do see things. Like my Mum, for example :D lol.

About 20 years ago my Mum migrated to Canada for a while. A couple of years before she went (or even thought about going), she had a really strange dream. I have two older sisters, but at the time she had the dream she only had the oldest. In the dream she was going on a plane to Canada. She had two little girls with her, and when she got on the plane she had a sort of revelation, everyone on this plane is dead. She also said something about the seats being wet but I can't remember how it fits in with the rest of the story. All the way there the flight was alright, then, at the landing there was alot of trouble because another plane was in the way or something. It crashed.

Three years later, what'dya know, she's migrating to Canada :aldo: And she has another daughter who just so happens to look like the one from the dream. She remembered it and was scared so she asked her brother to come with her, because he wasn't in the dream. When she got on she told me it was exactly the same as in her dream. Anyway, flight was fine until the end, when there was some trouble involving another plane. But it didn't crash, the only other difference being her brother going on the plane with her.

That and all the freaky dreams that give me deja vu all the time got me beleiving in foresight (Yes I know you specifically mentioned the other ones but y'know...).

Gaia, the reincarnation thing's from Hinduism, I believe ;)

[topgunffx]

It makes a lot of sense, a lot more than any religion in my opinion.

errr i am holding back, i would rant on how a 15 year old thinks that psychics make more sense than religion, but i would prefer not to get into an argument.

[Rekhyt]

Pre emptive modding!

No one is to mention religion again in this thread. It isn't especially relevant to this specific topic and it will degenerate into pointless bickering (as it did the last time in the aliens thread).

So, from now on I think it would be better to just assume that the religious members among us won't believe in psychic powers due to their respective religion's dogma. Similarly whether they believe in the existence of ghosts (or spirits, "Lost Souls", etc.) will also be dictated by their religion for the most part.

Oh and there are over 11 senses anyway (e.g. balance, the kinesthetic sense). I know that has very little to do with this thread but it's been bugging me.

[Unknown Kaze]

Oh and there are over 11 senses anyway (e.g. balance, the kinesthetic sense). I know that has very little to do with this thread but it's been bugging me.

WERD. I wanted to look it up but I got bored and did something else instead :/

I, personally, dont believe in such things cos of my set of beliefs (forgive me Rekhyt) so yeah. Like Topgunffx said, I just read my bible to get to what I believe to be the truth.

[IBeatSephiroth]

Homo sapiens once possessed all of the mentioned abilities
That is true. Every Animal can predict earthquakes but homo sapiens sapiens cant. I think we once have abilities like this but we lost them some time in our evolution. In pre-history there are MANY cased of shamans and this kind of things.
Can monkeys predict earthquakes? I will check that. lol

There are still many shamen in Africa and a few in Northern Australia, and they still practice the ways their ancestors did hundreds of years ago. If I had the chance and budget to travel overseas, I would to hear what stories they have to tell.

I'm a type of person who believes in the unexplained or supernatural things, blah blah blah. So that means that I believe in ghosts, spirits, and all of the 'lost senses'. And you brought up some pretty interesting theories, are these all your ideas?

I'm like that too, lol. I have a very large collection of paranormal-based books, mainly the ones by Australian author John Pinkney, who collects many stories and interesting points through e-mail and his contacts. I could talk for hours about this type of topic, even though some of it can create a slight unease in my psyche. And yes, these are all my ideas. I've been pondering them for about fifteen months now.

Hey, while I'm at all this, has anyone ever heard of the circle of death? Another one of my theories is that when people die, their soul moves on to the afterlife but instead of living there for all eternity they get reborn back onto the earth as a new living person ;) - just my ideas and thoughts anyways.
One of the bloodlines I'm descended from (My mum's mother's side to be exact) originally came from England (On their own ship as settlers I think, but all of their records and land deeds were stolen years ago.) and has had a psychic of some sort every second generation, but only in females. It's my heritage that makes me interested in the paranormal, and I kinda think I'm a reincarnation of someone from ancient Greece. Why? I like wearing my dressing gown (robe) and converting bedsheets into clothing. I know, it's odd. I may also a reincarnation of a kid that died in a car crash.

About 20 years ago my Mum migrated to Canada for a while. A couple of years before she went (or even thought about going), she had a really strange dream. I have two older sisters, but at the time she had the dream she only had the oldest. In the dream she was going on a plane to Canada. She had two little girls with her, and when she got on the plane she had a sort of revelation, everyone on this plane is dead. She also said something about the seats being wet but I can't remember how it fits in with the rest of the story. All the way there the flight was alright, then, at the landing there was alot of trouble because another plane was in the way or something. It crashed.

About two years before I was born, my Mum was driving along this thin, isolated strip of road in the Blue Mountains (Near Sydney, very steep) It was raining slightly, and foggy as usual. Anyway, as she approached a bend in the road there was this big, old tree. She noticed that there was a yound girl, maybe five years old, standing underneath. She was wearing a red cotton jacket with the hood pulled up over her face. Concerned, my Mum slowed down, planning to pull over. By the time she reached the tree the child had disappeared.
Years later, in 1998, she took a photo of me when I was playing. Her skin crawled at the sight. I looked just like that ghost at the tree.

[entity]

You have some really good points IBeatSephiroth. They make sense.

Gosh I have much to tell about my opinions but I don't know how to express myself...
But I believe that our lives won't end when we die, nor they start when we are born. The life in our material body is only a part of our whole life. I believe that our life, including the life being a spirit, or soul, is like learning. And the life on the ground of Earth is part of understanding everything in the universe and becoming one with it.