How will Final Fantasy XIII do on the Xbox 360?

[Neal]

As you probably know by now, Final Fantasy XIII is coming to the Xbox 360 in both the US and Europe. Square-Enix and Playstation 3 fans were a little upset, but it's not as bad as the hardcore dedicated fans might think. Japan will be getting Final Fantasy XIII exclusively on Playstation 3. Square Enix president Yoichi Wada's answer was that the installed base was too small. This decision is rather surprising as Microsoft need all they can in Japan to attract Japanese gamers to their console.

So, with the game only coming to Europe and the US, how well will it actually sell on the Xbox 360? Sales data shows that the Xbox 360 exclusive "Lost Odyssey" has reached 740,000 across Japan, US and Europe. The majority sold in the US, then Europe, and the least in Japan. Another Xbox 360 exclusive RPG by the same creators [Mistewalker and Final Fantasy creator Sakaguchi] has only reached half a million since it's launch in August 2007. This kind of the data is the obvious reason for Square-Enix's decision to leave it Playstation 3 exclusive in Japan, but what does this mean? Well, it surely isn't going to help the Xbox 360's death in Japan and this kind of game could potentially make a difference to it's situation there. The Xbox 360 is doing terrible in Japan, that much is already known, but with no Japanese RPG being able to reach one million worldwide in Xbox 360, does this say that 360 owners just don't care about RPGs?

Final Fantasy XII sales data shows that out of a total of approx. 5 Million copies sold, about half of the sales were in Japan. So that's a potential extra 50% of sales that wont be on the Xbox 360. Current sales trend also shows that Xbox 360 games sell the best in the US
and best on PS3 in Europe and Japan (In most cases) so Final Fantasy XIII on Xbox 360 will most likely own America but wont make a difference in Japan (Because it can't) and Europe will most likely be equal on both platforms, perhaps edging towards Playstation 3 a bit more.

In the end it's hard to say so far away as installed bases can change a lot in short time, like the recent success with the Playstation 3, so things could be different. People may suddenly fall in love with Xbox 360 RPGs when The Last Remnant, Star Ocean: The Last Hope and Infinite Undiscovery are released, but as long as Playstation 3 keeps its sucess in Europe then the Xbox 360 sales will most likely be majorly in America where Xbox 360 owners don't seem to be too bothered about RPGs. However, having said that, the Final Fantasy name is a powerful thing which makes it too early to say.

[Pain Clone]

well im a little shocked but as long as I can still get it on ps3 I not worried.

[Flint]

The real factor in it's success or failure is the quality of the port from PS3. The game is still being designed as a PS3 game first so it will be interesting to see how well the 360 version measures up. How many discs will the 360 version be on, for example? Which one will have faster load times? Will the PS3 version require a huge hard drive install? Will either version have a graphical edge over the other? I think those kinds of factors will determine which version people choose to buy. If the 360 version is a bad rush job then I imagine most people with the choice would buy it for PS3.

[Pain Clone]

i think it would do better on the ps3 for loading times and lost oddessy had 4 discs so im think their will be loads of disc changing for 360 owners.

[Mekrdhehk]

It would be funny if the 360 version had to be 'dumbed down' or wasnt as good cos that would just show that the PS3 is more capable, so 360 owners claiming the death of PS3, it could just work out in sony's favor.

on the topic...

I dont think it will do that well because while VsXII is still PS3 fans are gonna buy PS3 for both, it just means people who already have a 360 can have it, it might sell games but it wont sell xboxes.

[Xion]

it will sell tremendously well on 360. Lost Odyssey hasnt sold 1 million copies yet but it has done tremendously well for a new IP, traditional RPG on xbox 360 in the US. FF is a known quantity, ofcourse it will sell much better because of the established fanbase

[Temujin07]

I personally think it will do ok, you have to think of the people that already own a Xbox 360 and don't want to buy a new console just to play a couple games. There are exceptions like me however who just went out and bought a PS3 for this game and Versus XIII. I might get it for Xbox 360 because more than likely this game is gonna take more than 4 gigs off of my PS3 hard drive. Xbox 360 never takes that much, I have like 25 games saves on my 20 gig hard drive and still have 12 gigs left. I agree that in Japan 360 isn't doing so good. Microsoft is definitely trying to get more people in Japan to come to their console with their 3 new exclusive titles like Star Ocean and Last Remnant. I guess when the game comes out we'll now exactly whats gonna happen.

[Desi]

The real factor in it's success or failure is the quality of the port from PS3. The game is still being designed as a PS3 game first

Since it is being made on the PC first and foremost it should be alright.

I feel that the Xbox360 version will do great if not better than the PS3 version in the States. Europe I am still undecided on and of course so far Japan is PS3 only.

[Xion]

Since it is being made on the PC first and foremost it should be alright.

I feel that the Xbox360 version will do great if not better than the PS3 version in the States. Europe I am still undecided on and of course so far Japan is PS3 only.


yeah thats about it

[Pixel]

It will do fine. I am sure of it.

[Tidus]

I'm not sure how it will sell on the 360....I do believe that Sony will have the better version of the game. Some of my friends with XBox's (who are also hardcore fans of the series) are wanting to buy PS3's because they believe the same thing. We'll just have to wait and see. PS3 has more power. Hopefully square will ultimately exploit and take full advantage of that power.

[Little Miss Scarlett]

They'll be equal, if anything the 360 version could have more stuff since it comes out later. I really doubt that, though.

I think it'll sell really well on the 360, much more so than it would have if it stayed exclusive. I don't think it'll sell many 360's though. There'll be a few people that will, presuming they don't have a PS3 or 360, now go for the cheaper console, and some'll go for the the PS3 which, at the moment, is the only console with Verses. It's quite ambiguous, really.

[Temujin07]

I think it will sell a lot more on 360 than PS3, You have to think, Its coming out in Japan first for PS3 only and not many people have 360's there. However its coming out in Europe and in the US for 360 and PS3. There have been 3 times as many 360's sold in US than in Japan and there are 3 times as many people in the US than in Japan as well. The only real thing you have to consider is there are a lot more RPG fans in Japan than in America but Role-Playing games are quickly becoming the big thing in America too. like 5 of my friends are big 360 FPS fans and not so much RPG. However we were watching E3 08 and we saw FFXIII coming for 360 and now their going to get it because it looks so bad ass. Well it doesn't matter, maybe I'll buy one for both consoles and test their differences myself.

[sfox8]

Actually the last I heard, PS3 was selling more than 360. Almost as much as the Wii. I don't have a source but you can google it and I'm sure you'll find lots of sites citing it, with probably more detailed info than I have.

But anyway, I think they may be about the same, if not having the PS3 version of a little better quality since that's what it was made to take advantage of originally (don't tell me "it's being made on PC." I know). But it's similar to the Assassin's Creed situation. The games were about the same quality as long as you have your tv and console settings set right.

[Xion]

Actually the last I heard, PS3 was selling more than 360. Almost as much as the Wii. I don't have a source but you can google it and I'm sure you'll find lots of sites citing it, with probably more detailed info than I have..


while thats true, it really doesnt help the fact that the 360 still has a lead of millions over the ps3 in the US. In Europe its neck and neck.

Like i said before, it will sell tremendously well on 360 and the qulity will be the same over both versions, with the exception of FMV's wich are shure to be a bit clearer on PS3 because of the Blu-Ray ;)

[Desi]

But anyway, I think they may be about the same, if not having the PS3 version of a little better quality since that's what it was made to take advantage of originally (don't tell me "it's being made on PC." I know). But it's similar to the Assassin's Creed situation. The games were about the same quality as long as you have your tv and console settings set right.

except that AC was actually much better on 360. Same with DMC4 but that is understandable due to LP (oh god ps3 port) and Dead Rising.

[Stiltzkin]

except that AC was actually much better on 360. Same with DMC4 but that is understandable due to LP (oh god ps3 port) and Dead Rising.

Dead Rising is THE game I loved on the 360.
It's also the main reason I have a 360.

Tho I must admit they have their games! :wub:

[IBeatMyMeat]

They cant have the same quality on the game unless they want to dummy down the PS3s version. The PS3 processor capabilities are far beyond 360. As for sales most likely will not do that great. Just as FFXI failed at 360, XIII is most likely going to fall short. And the 360 version will NOT have more than PS3. They are scheduled to be released on the same Day and Date. Which can easily fuel the thoughts that the 360 version will be a rushed and crappily ported version from the PS3. Or maybe they'll just take the game as made as it is and destroy the graphics engine to make it run on the 360(again rushed and crappily ported). Overall I think that it obviously won't sell systems, and probably won't sell many copies on the 360. Alot of people are already buying PS3 for XIII and other exclusive games, so it will unlikely tip the tides in the 360s favor, and will probably barely cut even economicly speaking for SE.

[Big Boss]

Well, I have to say that it depends on how well they manage to compress and port the code to the 360 once they have finished with the PS3 version. Not only do they have to compress it, but it will probably take more than 1 disk so that it can be as similar as it can to the PS3 version. If they manage to make it exactly (though I can of doubt it, but it can be possible) the same on both versions, then it should do pretty well. Other than that, I think that most hardcore fans of FF series most probably bought as PS3 to play future FF games, so I have a feeling that it will be more successful in the PS3.

[andrewonmars]

i agree man

[IBeatMyMeat]

Yeah a large portion of PS3 owners bought it not only for the games that are out but in the anticipation of the future FF series to come, since as im sure we can all guess, this series will NEVER die. The end of the world will see cockroaches, twinkies, and a TV playing FFVCMXIII(yes i know thats not right order) or some such retardedly high Roman Numeral:P. Most likely well see 3-5 FF games on spanning this console generation so ppl will stick to PS3 for most im sure.

[Xion]

I agree however....having a huge install base is a big boon..even if your fanbase is on PS3, and a large percent of PS3 owners buy it...and only a small percentage of 360 owners buy it..it could still outsell it because of the install base and high attach rates..like DMC4 for example...idk just have to wait and see on that one but i think we can all rest assured the game will sell very well.

[Big Boss]

Not to mention that they most probably don't want to waste money on buying another console. Maybe some fans sold, or returned their PS3 and bought a 360 because their only reason to have a PS3 is now gone, but they don't remember that it is not the only FF game that will come out only on the PS3. So far, FFVXIII is still exclusive. Just because MS got this game too, does not mean that they will have future games but of course for all of you 360 fans remember, that is just my opinion.

[IBeatMyMeat]

Either way, if the game falls short then everyone that has sold PS3 for having no reason to own one anymore will be hurting when the next come out. One FF flop on multi-console is acceptable, two, is just not being to learn from their mistakes. I frankly don't care much if its multi-console or not, but it will do nothing but hurt SE if it proves to be another flop after port. Course maybe the consecutive release will make for a better result. The whole 4yr port after JP/US releases in no way helped the game on the Xbox.

[Terros]

This might seem like a dumb question but I'm asking it cause I've heard different stories regarding the FFXIII on 360 thing. I was under the impression that now FFXIII was coming out on BOTH the 360 and PS3 but someone told me that Microsoft bought the rights to FF and now it's a 360 exclusive...which I'm finding really hard to believe.

[Kitmitsu]

This might seem like a dumb question but I'm asking it cause I've heard different stories regarding the FFXIII on 360 thing. I was under the impression that now FFXIII was coming out on BOTH the 360 and PS3 but someone told me that Microsoft bought the rights to FF and now it's a 360 exclusive...which I'm finding really hard to believe.

You should find it hard to believe. It's crap :P.

[IBeatMyMeat]

I think if FF went XBox exclusive then the entire franchise would die out from here onward. FF has always seemed to be a largely Sony/Nintendo Fanbased series and would lose many players if it was dragged away from those companies. Not to mention the Japanese would NEVER allow that to happen....They hate anything Microsoft and would never allow their games to be exclusive to that company.

[Xion]

I think if FF went XBox exclusive then the entire franchise would die out from here onward. FF has always seemed to be a largely Sony/Nintendo Fanbased series and would lose many players if it was dragged away from those companies. Not to mention the Japanese would NEVER allow that to happen....They hate anything Microsoft and would never allow their games to be exclusive to that company.


umm...shure...the support of major japanese publishers (Square Enix, Capcom, Atlus, Konami) shows just how much they "hate" Microsoft :|

even if they hated Microsoft, they love money. So maybe you should understand buisness a little better before you make comments like that. If Final fantasy were to suddenly become an xbox exclusive franchise, then the fans would either be stupid and abandon it, and the series would make a new fanbase, or they would all simply get 360's and enjoy the games there. Eitherway it wouldnt be over for Final fantasy. It wasnt over when they moved over from Nintendo to Playstation, and it theoretically wouldnt be over if it moved over from playstation to xbox.

[IBeatMyMeat]

Should it wouldnt be over, though they would only make the initial buyout in profit, then the loss of fanbase would cause lower sales. There would be ppl that moved to a diff console but there would also be a large amount that would not get a new console just to play the games. FF has never "made a jump from nintendo to sony," its never become exclusive to either PS or Nintendo. its split among both consoles. thus giving each consoles players the oportunity, just like being on xbox would. if it went exclusive to any BUT PS it would indeed most likely lose a large portion of fanbase. however note the "most likely." its not me saying "this WILL happen," its my thought on what the possibility is *shrug*

[Xion]

FF has never "made a jump from nintendo to sony," its never become exclusive to either PS or Nintendo. its split among both consoles. thus giving each consoles players the oportunity



ummm..what? every single New Final Fantasy game from VII to XII (Exception-XI)has been a playstation 1 or 2 exclusive

the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Tactics and Chocobo series are spin Off's that could easily have another title. The DS remakes of the old Nintendo games dont count. Check your sources. >_<

[IBeatMyMeat]

FF games are FF games whether they can or cannot go by other titles. <.< ppl cant pick and choose which FF games are FF games....the company puts the label on them. either way now its just becoming a pointless debate, with 2 ppl that have opposite views of it xD agreeing to disagree may just be for the best :P

[Xion]

ummm....shure....whatever man ..;)

[Zedja]

Saying it would suck/It wont do good, etc on the 360 is like saying Square enix sucks at it's job.

[Enedok]

They cant have the same quality on the game unless they want to dummy down the PS3s version. The PS3 processor capabilities are far beyond 360.

But I have yet to see a game "that far better". And this can be discussed to the end of time.


And this is just stupid. PS3 will always need good games.
Xbox 360 Exclusive Or Bullet To The Head? Kaz Picks Bullet To The Head (http://kotaku.com/5028976/xbox-360-exclusive-or-bullet-to-the-head-kaz-picks-bullet-to-the-head)
http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/07/deer_kaz.jpg
Microsoft might have bagged a big PS3 exclusive at E3 with Final Fantasy XIII. But, Sony Computer Entertainment honcho Kaz Hirai (http://kotaku.com/tag/kaz-hirai/) really does not want any Xbox 360 (http://kotaku.com/tag/xbox-360/) exclusives. Like at all. Even abstractly! In an E3 interview with Swedenish daily Aftonbladet, Hirai reportedly says he'd take a bullet to the head over taking an Xbox 360 exclusive. Harsh! In the past few days, Microsoft and Sony have been trading barbs like crazy. It's like 2006 all over again. Anyway, here's the exchange, kindly translated by Kotakuite Mordochai: Aftonbladet: If you had to choose ONE exclusive Xbox 360 title and launch it for the PS3 instead, which game would it be?
Hirai: I don't think I have to choose any.....
Aftonbladet: You have to pick one.
Hirai: Again, I don't think I have to pick one because we have such a fantastic lineup of games.
Aftonbladet: But if someone is holding a gun to your head and you have to choose one. Which game would it be?
Hirai: Okay.. then they have to shoot me, because I really don't think we need any.
Kaz, you're making Giant Kaz Face sad.
http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/07/giant_kaz_face_sad.jpg

[Sundance Kid]

haha that's pretty funny

Also as far as the mention of ps3 having better processor capabilities, or quality or whatever, it depends soley on the game.

[IBeatMyMeat]

In the case of a game that was supposed to show the power of the PS3, I think it'd make a difference when its being ported to the 360....but it all depends on what the ports like. It could either be a piece of ported crap, or they may be able to just get away with the multiple disks and walk away with some extra cash. Or maybe Microsoft will be sadly short a couple 10+mil or however much they forked out to SE for the port and get a much less return. As long as the PS version doesnt get hurt at all I dont care much.

[andrewonmars]

i think that can be impossible for the xbox 360 and ps3

[Terros]

You should find it hard to believe. It's crap :P.

Yeah that's what I thought.

[andrewonmars]

i agree that ps3

[Gaia]

I agree with everyone!

I think that they'll both do well. As we know in the US both game consoles are very popular and the games for them sell very well. As for Japan they're only getting the PS3 version. I believe the last Square Enix game for XBOX 360 sold well right? I'm not really an expert on sales on games and whatever:rolleyes:

[IBeatMyMeat]

They sold to the point that they made a profit....Iunno bout if they did well perse....*Digs on google for sales cause of curiosity spike* Blue Dragon sold 200k....MSs goal cause they were marketing it to the JPs....I think they prolly were betting on the fact it was a SE title, trying to boost sales that way on the XBOX in Japan. and FFXI sold i think just over 231k, but that was released far after the initial JP/US releases on PS2/PC. But meh cant always rely on past trends to predict what will happen. Well just haveta see.

[Emerald]

I'm guessing it will sell better on 360 in NA (like nearly every mutli-platform title) or both close to a tie with PS3 version outselling it just about everywhere else.

[IBeatMyMeat]

How popular is the PS3 in England/Europe? I've never really looked at those areas much.

[andrewonmars]

i think final fantasy verses 13 is coming out this december

[Little Miss Scarlett]

Yeah, I Wish!

[IBeatMyMeat]

somethins comin out november(cant remember which game) but it certainly aint versus <.<....

[Xion]

somethins comin out november(cant remember which game) but it certainly aint versus <.<....


The Last Remnant on 360. FF Versus XIII has no date and dont expect it until After XIII..and thats in late 09-mid 2010 territory.

[IBeatMyMeat]

ugh i hate reading that release date, yet i know full well to expect it to take that long rofl

[Larsa]

i think final fantasy verses 13 is coming out this december
Don't we all with, but I highly doubt that it will come on the 360 this year. But I was talking to someone once who got GTA4 on the XBox 360 whereas I got it on the PS3 and he came out with there being more glitches on his version than mine. So it might be better on the PS3, and I can entirely see that because for one the 360 has their games on DVDs and PS3 has them on BlueRay.

[-Solid_Rain-]

Don't we all with, but I highly doubt that it will come on the 360 this year. But I was talking to someone once who got GTA4 on the XBox 360 whereas I got it on the PS3 and he came out with there being more glitches on his version than mine. So it might be better on the PS3, and I can entirely see that because for one the 360 has their games on DVDs and PS3 has them on BlueRay.

he was talking about versus. still a ps3 exclusive.
& release dates on amazon and others arn't true. they just want to sell the pre-orders.

[Josh]

At this moment in time, the market is running pretty much parallel as far as Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 sales go. If you think about it, the majority of people owned a PlayStation 2 in the last generation; this means that at least half of the previous PS2 owners have decided to pick up an Xbox 360 rather than a PlayStation 3.

With this in mind, the chances are that many Final Fantasy fans picked up a 360 and not a PlayStation 3 - meaning that Microsoft already have an audience for the game on the Xbox 360. Furthermore, the Xbox 360's RPG market is already beginning to open up with titles such as Final Fantasy XIII, Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4 and Tales of Vesperia - I mean, so far the Xbox 360 is looking to be the RPG king of this generation.

Surely companies wouldn't be making games for the Xbox 360 if the audience wasn't there? I'm sure that it'll do fine on the Xbox 360.

[UAEchamp]

At this moment in time, the market is running pretty much parallel as far as Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 sales go. If you think about it, the majority of people owned a PlayStation 2 in the last generation; this means that at least half of the previous PS2 owners have decided to pick up an Xbox 360 rather than a PlayStation 3.

With this in mind, the chances are that many Final Fantasy fans picked up a 360 and not a PlayStation 3 - meaning that Microsoft already have an audience for the game on the Xbox 360. Furthermore, the Xbox 360's RPG market is already beginning to open up with titles such as Final Fantasy XIII, Infinite Undiscovery, The Last Remnant, Star Ocean 4 and Tales of Vesperia - I mean, so far the Xbox 360 is looking to be the RPG king of this generation.

Surely companies wouldn't be making games for the Xbox 360 if the audience wasn't there? I'm sure that it'll do fine on the Xbox 360.


only time will tell

[Dream Machine]

How popular is the PS3 in England/Europe? I've never really looked at those areas much.

The 360 is more popular in the UK, but the PS3 is more popular in Europe. I'm not too sure why though.

[Xion]

it depends..the 360 and ps3 are very close in europe actually, and i beleive its in spain where the PS3 is very popular..as a whole tho, in both the UK and Europe the 360 and PS3 are in common ground, neither of them are far ahead of the other..in the US the 360 is far ahead of PS3 and in Japan its the opposite...the Japan market is much smaller tho, so while the PS3 is far ahead of 360 in japan, it doesnt make up for the 360's lead in the US..so thats why the 360 is still ahead worldwide, with PS3 making up ground.

as for this topic..its kind of a muted debate dont you think? i dont know ANYONE, PS3 or 360 owner, that doesnt currently own, or at some point owned a PS2...every every every person that even remotely plays games is likely to own or have owned a ps2 so it doesnt matter if a PS2 series game is sold to the 360 base or PS3 base, there both just as likely allready familiar with it..Final Fantasy XIII will sell millions of copies on both systems, it would sell millions and millions of copies on WHATEVER system its released on..i think we all know this...and look at Devil May Cry 4..no one expected to play DMC4 on the 360 and yet that hasnt stopped it from selling over a million units on 360, and only a bit more than that on PS3. 360 owners have a reputation of buying games, thats why the 360 has a monster high attach rate, if you release a game on 360, people will buy it.

[beforethestorm13]

As much as I hate to admit it, I believe that FFXIII will do "fairly well" compared to the PS3 version.
However, the 360 was developed for more... shooter-oriented games, like Halo, or Doom. (both of which I hate with a passion <_<) So I don't think that it will be as successful as the one on PS3

[Josh]

I think they prolly were betting on the fact it was a SE title, trying to boost sales that way on the XBOX in Japan. and FFXI sold i think just over 231k, but that was released far after the initial JP/US releases on PS2/PC.
Just so you know, Microsoft's RPG drive with the Xbox 360 is really paying off. It's reported that Xbox 360's are selling out all over Japan with Tales of Vesperia on the horizon.

Just goes to show that the Xbox 360 does have an RPG audience, and that Final Fantasy XIII might do better than the speculated "alright".

Do you honestly count Final Fantasy XI as a proper Final Fantasy though? ;) I know for a fact that I'm not willing to pay monthly fees for the game, and I'm pretty adamant that a lot of other members will feel the same way - so of course, the sales aren't gonna be great with XI.

[Xion]

the 360 was developed for more... shooter-oriented games, like Halo, or Doom. (both of which I hate with a passion <_<) So I don't think that it will be as successful as the one on PS3


thats the typical response i hear from people..but thats wrong..shure, the xbox was most well known for its shooters, but this is the 360, not the xbox..the 360 has a very diverse lineup, including more RPG's than any of the 3 current gen systems. And strangely enough, when you look at sonys E3 conference, you would think they were Microsoft with all the shooters they were showing.

[Josh]

thats the typical response i hear from people..but thats wrong..shure, the xbox was most well known for its shooters, but this is the 360, not the xbox..the 360 has a very diverse lineup, including more RPG's than any of the 3 current gen systems. And strangely enough, when you look at sonys E3 conference, you would think they were Microsoft with all the shooters they were showing.
Actually, come to think of it the Xbox 360 doesn't really have that many exclusive shooters. It's got like Halo 3, and I dunno if TimeShift's still exclusive but I can't think of any more.

It's definitely getting more in the ways of RPG exclusives, with non-SE titles such as Lost Odyssey.

[IBeatMyMeat]

FFXI is the most final fantasyish game produced <.< when ppl bitch and moan about a FF game not being like a FF game, 11 is the exact stereotype of a FF game. course you just asked that or someone thats been playing it since NA release. if someone can put 500+ DAYS of gametime into a game, and still have something to do, then yes i consider it a FF game, and one of the most immersive, detailed games out to date. both in the MMO and just general RPG game genre. not to mention its one of the largest sources of revenue for the company thanks to the PS2(thick)/PS3/PC sales/subscriptions. and i said the sales on xbox werent great, and wasnt due to "ppl not wanting to pay monthly fee." it was due to the 3+yr release difference. by that time it was like "why am i buying this game thats better on comp/ps2/3...." but that one wasnt microsfots fault, that was SEs trying to get a lil more outta it. buthey they did expand the audiece a bit for ppl that didnt wanna play on comp so w/e, thats their perogative.

[Josh]

" it was due to the 3+yr release difference. by that time it was like "why am i buying this game thats better on comp/ps2/3...."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Square Enix update Final Fantasy XI's graphics on the Xbox 360. Like I said, I could be wrong; I've never played it.

Just look at World of Warcraft though, the release date difference really shouldn't matter. Even today, WoW is still selling copies by the truck load; and that's what? Three or four years old?

I think it's the monthly fees that put fans off, therefore reducing sales.

[Xion]

and i said the sales on xbox werent great, and wasnt due to "ppl not wanting to pay monthly fee." it was due to the 3+yr release difference. by that time it was like "why am i buying this game thats better on comp/ps2/3...." .


it should say "..i didnt want it 3 years ago, and i still dont want it" OR "I allready have it so i dont care about this"

the 360 version is definately better than the ps2 version..it included all the expansion packs currently available, and its the only one in HD..the PC version is probably the best because its an MMO + mouse and keboard.

@Josh-FFXI cannot be compaired with WoW..it just cant..if FFXI were WoW it would have sold like hotcakes...but it isnt..keep in Mind WoW also has a monthly fee

[IBeatMyMeat]

they boosted graphics over the ps2. comp and ps3 outclasses xbox graphically(atleast from what ive seen between the two of them) and yeah gameplay is better on the PC just cause PC is made for those type of games. and ive never really known many ppl that have said they didnt buy an MMO due to fees,. most tend to stay away from them due to lack of time. atleast in FFs case. it takes more than a casual playing style to get anything done in FF where as WoW is a very casual pick-up-and-play game. thats coming from having played both. when you can get on WoW and get to the top lv of all jobs within 5months, and then try to do the same on FF and maybe only get 4-5 jobs to 75, not to memntion on the same char, theres obviously a huge difference in the type of play style required to handle the two. but again it takes patience to play a MMO just because the game is naturally gonna be slower than a single player offline game. so they really do only appeal to a certain group. course thats why they have the fees. makes up for less sales when millions are comin in every month from subscription fees. simply put got 10k ppl per server, with 20+ servers, at 20$/month on average(more money to have more chars). means roughly 4mil revenue, not counting w/e fees are needed to maintain servers. so meh. less sales doesnt hurt an MMO when its steady income. there will always be ppl that want the MMO feel from a game. hence why SE is supposedly working on the next-gen MMO. they wouldnt bother if they didnt expect it to do well.

[Josh]

@Josh-FFXI cannot be compaired with WoW..it just cant..if FFXI were WoW it would have sold like hotcakes...but it isnt..keep in Mind WoW also has a monthly fee
I know WoW has a monthly fee, but that shouldn't matter. Final Fantasy had a much bigger fanbase than the Warcraft series prior to WoW's release, and because of this FFXI could've; and should've been a bigger success than World of Warcraft.

You're right though, FFXI can't really be compared to WoW. I'm just using at as an example though, the release date difference shouldn't really effect the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XI's sales.

[Xion]

"they boosted graphics over the ps2. comp and ps3 outclasses xbox graphically(atleast from what ive seen between the two of them)"

stop being so dense. The fact of the matter is that there is NO PS3 version of FFXI..it can only be played through Backwards Compatibility with the original PS2 version, and the PS3 upscales it.. There is no way on this earth that it would look better than the Natively HD xbox 360 version.

[IBeatMyMeat]

go play it then <.< since you havent and im wrong. lol done with this thread if you just gonna hop on your xbox......soapbox......and any game released 3yrs after an original release of a game is gonna be effected by that timegap. k done

[-Solid_Rain-]

and ive never really known many ppl that have said they didnt buy an MMO due to fees,. most tend to stay away from them due to lack of time. atleast in FFs case.

i don't think i would ever pay monthly fees for an MMO. over time its just to dam much for one game. i would much rather play, and replay, a 100 hour normal FF game. if i need the online part i'll just play MGS, NHL, Skate or Resistance.

i actually did get the free 10 day trial for WOW. i don't like the constant quests that don't really develop any kind of story. thats what a game should be about; story, character dev, etc. i don't know for sure, but i think FF XI did have a "story" to it, so thats a little better.

[Desi]

go play it then <.< since you havent and im wrong. lol done with this thread if you just gonna hop on your xbox......soapbox......and any game released 3yrs after an original release of a game is gonna be effected by that timegap. k doneDude you are fucking wrong. I have (well not PC anymore) all three and I can tell you the 360 version shits on the PS2 version graphically. The only reason I play the PS2 version still is because the 360 runs off the disc and that causes it to load slower at times. I prefer the nature of the PC version but the controls obiviously pointed to consoles, other than selecting PC's/NPC's I feel the controls shit on the PC version.

I know WoW has a monthly fee, but that shouldn't matter. Final Fantasy had a much bigger fanbase than the Warcraft series prior to WoW's release, and because of this FFXI could've; and should've been a bigger success than World of Warcraft.

You're right though, FFXI can't really be compared to WoW. I'm just using at as an example though, the release date difference shouldn't really effect the Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XI's sales.Final Fantasy also had tons of games, books, tv seris, movies and candy to settle a name with. Warcraft had 3 games,like two expansions, and some books. WoW also had Blizzard (pefectionist) while FFXI has Square (the FF guys). The thing is Blizzard is seen much better in the press and all the positive press, perfectionist history, and not being Everquest with pretty graphics also helped. It added something to the MMO realm in the style of getting things accomplished in little time, less load screens, faster leveling, great PvP/realm based combat, etc. Though FFXI added the ability to change jobs without making a new character (this needs to be copied) and a story that can easily be followed.

All in all FFXI shares more in line with Ultima Online and Everquest aka a old formula with a big name. But it is also much much more carebear than both. WoW is pure carebear.

[Xion]

go play it then <.< since you havent and im wrong. lol done with this thread if you just gonna hop on your xbox......soapbox......and any game released 3yrs after an original release of a game is gonna be effected by that timegap. k done


youre really starting to show your true colors..I said the 360 version is better than the PS2 version in content and graphics..do not try to change my words when i completely agree that the 3 year time gap is the main reason the 360 version was completely overlooked. Try putting on your reading glasses before you reply to me, Read what your going to reply to! :|

[-Solid_Rain-]

Speaking of blizzard, starcraft was an awesome game(online). My bro still plays it all the time, and there still seems to be other plp playing as well.
Also, required no monthly fees.

[IBeatMyMeat]

i didnt aim the yr difference at you xion. starcraft isnt a MMORPG, so doesnt really fall into the category, and i fail to see how FFXI is carebear....maybe im just not gettin by what you mean from carebear. i think of carebear as the game walks your ass through it hand in hand, where FFXI does none of that really....no tutorials, no quests that teach you how to do things. gotta either learn it yourself or ask ppl. and i suppose i can see the ppl having issues with the pay to play MMOs cause of fees from that perspective rain. guess just after so long dont really think about the long term cost. just used to having a month of gameplay for 5yrs for 15$ a month *shrug* but thats just my perspective when id rather play that and some older games, than buy a new game every 3-4 months for 50-60$. works out to the same cost depending on how many games someone buys

[-Solid_Rain-]

starcraft isnt a MMORPG, so doesnt really fall into the category,

if you read the comment, i was just relating it to blizzard and its plethora of users. not mmorpg.

[IBeatMyMeat]

ah my bad thought was pointing out the online aspect without monthly fee xD

[Thimien]

When you play FF11, your not only paying to play a game, its such a good experience... WoW is for unpatient people who just like to play online with others at a fast and easy pace, FF11 is for the fans, and i cant tell you one thing, iv been playing for past 4 years now, and its an amazing game.

Its a very social game, so you cant be a dick or people will just ignore you and you wount be able to get anything done... i just love the ditail and how rewarding it feels when you get something done, cause its alot of hard work, and iv made alot of new friends thanks to that game, went for drinks, traveled to other contenants etc... all this for £8 a month.

id advise anyone to at least try playing it for that 1st free month, on pc, if it does not catch your eye on that free month, then dont play it. Obviasly if you have time in your hands its much better than WoW, to me anyways...

About the fee, just set things into prespective, i pay just about the same amount to go cinema, to watch a 2hour movie, with FF11 i pay for as many hours as i can possibly play... intertainment has its price, i never thought i would pay £50 for a game in my life, yet iv done it so many times, wich i think is worse than a monthly fee that is perfectly justified.

[soulasssns]

ummm..what? every single New Final Fantasy game from VII to XII (Exception-XI)has been a playstation 1 or 2 exclusive

the Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, Tactics and Chocobo series are spin Off's that could easily have another title. The DS remakes of the old Nintendo games dont count. Check your sources. >_<

Whats your source mister all knowing FF expert? i get mine straight from Square enix....and a FF game is a FF game even if it doesnt end with a roman numeral....understand? FF is Multiplatform, always has been always will be.

[olorin818]

although I am not owner of Xbox 360 and PS3 either(yet, that gonna change soon:-)) I believe that those of us who have microsoft console and looking forward to see f13 on it, shouldnt be worried, I am more then sure that SE will make sure that there will be no diffrence between these two version of the same game, otherwise they would simply not announce this, in addintion they might get some help from Microsoft...
and by the way, it's not like I like the idea of ff on Xbox!!!!!!!!

[Thimien]

Whats your source mister all knowing FF expert? i get mine straight from Square enix....and a FF game is a FF game even if it doesnt end with a roman numeral....understand? FF is Multiplatform, always has been always will be.


FYI Multiplatform is when a game is released on 2 different consoles at the same time "ex Xbox360 and PS3". So id check your souces Soulasssns, because FF has never been mulplatform until now. 7 and 8 i think were released on pc like years after its PS1 release, and that dont count, so stop talking bull shit.

[Desi]

FYI Multiplatform is when a game is released on 2 different consoles at the same time "ex Xbox360 and PS3". So id check your souces Soulasssns, because FF has never been mulplatform until now. 7 and 8 i think were released on pc like years after its PS1 release, and that dont count, so stop talking bull shit.
Not to bust your bubble or anything but the first Final Fantasy was released on the MSX as well as the Nintendo.

[Josh]

Not to bust your bubble or anything but the first Final Fantasy was released on the MSX as well as the Nintendo.
It's mean to burst someones bubble when they are owning arrogant noobs. Don't do it! ;)

[Rade]

And FFXI was multi-platform too :cookie:

[-Solid_Rain-]

i think we can agree that XI is a "core" game. its just not like any of the others, it was something new and unusual for square.

[Zodiak]

I think that it will fail. They are expecting it to be a hit. Yes, the 360 fans are talking about it. But I think that they (360 fans) are just trying to rub it into our faces. I don't think that they will support that game. They just cared about getting the game to the 360, not about buying it.

[Xion]

youre hilarious man..if you honestly think that FFXIII wont sell millions of copies on 360 youre not...very intelligent....

[-Solid_Rain-]

I think that it will fail. They are expecting it to be a hit. Yes, the 360 fans are talking about it. But I think that they (360 fans) are just trying to rub it into our faces. I don't think that they will support that game. They just cared about getting the game to the 360, not about buying it.


yeah, i don't think it was very smart to type something that would obviously draw Xion and Desi to you.

[Xion]

yeah, i don't think it was very smart to type something that would obviously draw Xion and Desi to you.

True :P ...but you have to admit, its not a very good statement...

[Kitmitsu]

Just because many people here (including me) will be getting it for PS3, doesn't mean it's going to "fail" on 360. I think everyone is in agreement that it will definitely sell more on PS3 but it will at least 1 million plus on 360.

[-Solid_Rain-]

True :P ...but you have to admit, its not a very good statement...

oh i agree. it was very close minded, just the sort of thing you and desi seem to like to take apart.

he deff, is trolling btw. it seems thats all his posts contain.

[ceru]

I think it will do well, if not better than the PS3 version.

[Kitmitsu]

I think it will do well, if not better than the PS3 version.

.....May I ask what your logic behind that statement is?

[IBeatMyMeat]

it deffinately wont do BETTER than PS3 xD. but i can agree with the 1 million idea. maybe a lil short but spose 1mils easily enough to make it worth the effort. and if it does sell that much will prolly see all FF games after multi-plat too(atleast after the crystallis group)

[ceru]

.....May I ask what your logic behind that statement is?

Many fans were going to buy the PS3 for FF, but were waiting for the moment they could buy a PS3 because of the price. A lot have voiced that they're glad its coming out for the XBOX because they won't have to buy a PS3.

The XBOX is more successful in America than the PS3, although in Japan it is the opposite.

Note that this is not including Japan's release, because Japan doesn't have an XBOX ver. to rival the PS3 ver.

[Kitmitsu]

Many fans were going to buy the PS3 for FF, but were waiting for the moment they could buy a PS3 because of the price. A lot have voiced that they're glad its coming out for the XBOX because they won't have to buy a PS3.

...not more than PS3 owners who wanted it in the first place.

The XBOX is more successful in America than the PS3, although in Japan it is the opposite.

Note that this is not including Japan's release, because Japan doesn't have an XBOX ver. to rival the PS3 ver.

...so you decided to just ignore them? You're the only person in this thread excluding Japan. I'd go as far as predicting the Japanese sales on PS3 alone will beat the worldwide sales on 360. *shock*

[Xion]

I wouldnt say that Kitmitsu..im shure in japan it will be a huge hit but i seriously doubt the sales in that region will rival the total sales on 360.

Japan and parts of europe are the reason i do think the PS3 version will sell more..but it will sell well on 360, especially in the US

[Kitmitsu]

I wouldnt say that Kitmitsu..im shure in japan it will be a huge hit but i seriously doubt the sales in that region will rival the total sales on 360.

Japan and parts of europe are the reason i do think the PS3 version will sell more..but it will sell well on 360, especially in the US

Yep I went there :V.

My statement may sound ludicrous but sitting here and thinking....it doesn't seem impossible. You have to agree it could happen. No doubt it will sell much better than other RPGs on the 360 and I know it will have respectable worldwide sales but out of all Japanese multi-platform titles, I think this will have the widest gap in sales between platforms.

[Xion]

Nothing is impossible, but it is allways best to go with the most probable outcome..and thats just not it. Nothing against it, or your opinion, im just saying in terms of real world probability, its just not the best.

[ceru]

"...not more than PS3 owners who wanted it in the first place."

We have no way of knowing that, until its released.

I am very Japan minded, don't get me wrong, but I think that the situation between the regions are very different. If it does insanely well in Japan, thats great, but thats going to do nothing for American support of the PS3, see what I mean?

Anyways, I am sure the PS3 version will be successful.

[Kitmitsu]

Nothing is impossible, but it is allways best to go with the most probable outcome..and thats just not it. Nothing against it, or your opinion, im just saying in terms of real world probability, its just not the best.

By no means would I ever bet on it but I'm holding onto the small possibility that it could happen :P. Personally, I couldn't care less which platform it sold more on (It's not like I'm a Sony shareholder) but if the quality of the game is like any other Final Fantasy. Maybe when it comes out I can say I told you so...even if it is unlikely :rolleyes:.

[Xion]

hmmm...deciding to go with an unlikely outcome is very risky Kitmitsu..i allways choose to go with the most probable outcome, or if i am speculating, i choose upon probability..like how i allways said FFXIII 360 could very well happen..and i said it a few times, when i smelled the levels of possibility rising, i called it..and then it happened.

Betting on Probability instead of hope served me well, you should try it XD (but its allways good to hang on to Hope..NEVER LET IT GOOOOooooooo.... lol j/k :p)

[LightningXIII]

Yeah, I don't think many people predicted that the 360 port would happen. Although I don't think it's too unlikely to see the Japanese PS3 sales would beat worldwide 360 sales seeing as the majority of the worldwide PS3 sales would be coming from Japan.

[-Tidus4]

i see japan outselling world wide sales for the game on 360 because Japan always had the bigger fanbase when it came to FF. With N America and Europe releasing a ps3 and a 360 version i recon the sales will be almost split or more towards ps3 in those places.

Well actually considering that the install base in japan for the ps3 is low compared to 360's in US i change my mind about japan outselling world wide sales for the 360 version. :]

[Luriana]

IMO I think it's going to be good, in the US specially, where there are more 360 users than PS3 users. But I think many people will buy a PS3 just for this game...
Nevertheless, it's going to work on the X360. Yes, I own one, and was planning to buy a PS3 for the Final Fantasy XIII, but this X360 release just fell from the heavens! No need for me to buy Sony's powerhouse anymore. And many people who own a 360 are thinking like me.

[Death Knight]

I have both consoles and I'll be sure to play it on my X360 .. PS3 sucks!!.. only MGS gave it a little light on the show.

[RadiantStorm]

I'm getting it for the ps3... not helping with the 360 sales >.> but only time will tell, I am actually quite excited to see the results, it's like bugging your teacher to mark your test... dam it to hell they always delay, hopefully square enix won't announce a delay.

[Sadistic]

I think that it'll sell almost as good as it will on the PlayStation 3, because 360 users have been starved of a Final Fantasy-quality RPG for years and will probably start boasting about getting it, despite the fact that Sony and the PlayStation brand has always had the upper hand with the genre.
The 360's sales figures will stay about the same, but the PlayStation 3, now with its stellar line-up, will sell like wildfire. What's the 360 got? The Halo series? Pfft.

[The Lightning]

Final Fantasy XIII will do well on the Xbox 360. It's sterotypical to think all 360 owners like are FPS, however, this is not true as shown time and time again. We have to take into account that there are now 22 million LIVE Subscribers (Gold and Silver) and out of those 22 Million - 60% like Final Fantasy as seen with the days following the announcement. Out of the 60%, I would say 20% has a PS3 while 10% will not purchase the game. The remaining 30% of the 60% are a may or may not buy the game category.

Now let's put this into context, FFXIII will do far better on Xbox 360 due to current attach rates and the install base. Take the best selling games on both consoles, MGS4 and Halo 3, Halo sold the equivlent amount of games in 24 hours as MGS4 has sold overall. Multiplatform games tend to sell better on 360 because of it's install base and it has the highest attach rate.

[Luriana]

Final Fantasy XIII will do well on the Xbox 360. It's sterotypical to think all 360 owners like are FPS, however, this is not true as shown time and time again. We have to take into account that there are now 22 million LIVE Subscribers (Gold and Silver) and out of those 22 Million - 60% like Final Fantasy as seen with the days following the announcement. Out of the 60%, I would say 20% has a PS3 while 10% will not purchase the game. The remaining 30% of the 60% are a may or may not buy the game category.

Now let's put this into context, FFXIII will do far better on Xbox 360 due to current attach rates and the install base. Take the best selling games on both consoles, MGS4 and Halo 3, Halo sold the equivlent amount of games in 24 hours as MGS4 has sold overall. Multiplatform games tend to sell better on 360 because of it's install base and it has the highest attach rate.

Just took them words outta my mouth :cathryn:

[Zezlar]

I'll buy it for PS3, don't really care for the xbox :P. Although i'm sure it will sell well on the 360.

[Near|DanteXP|Sasdx]

I don't expect the 360 to sell over 95 thousand copys <___< becausse i don't wanna go any lower :P

1 thousand

[Death Knight]

I don't expect the 360 to sell over 95 thousand copys <___< becausse i don't wanna go any lower :P

1 thousand

believe it or not .. but It's gonna past the Million.

[Near|DanteXP|Sasdx]

believe it or not .. but It's gonna past the Million.


NEVAH NEVAH NEVAH


>________> Ok maybe i was just joking anyway <__<

[Luriana]

The way I see it, every single X360 user will have a copy of Final Fantasy XIII.

[Xion]

The way I see it, every single X360 user will have a copy of Final Fantasy XIII.


not gonna happen, on w/e system it releases on..that just not happening...

it will however sell over a million copies on both platforms

[-Tidus4]

Final Fantasy XIII will do well on the Xbox 360. It's sterotypical to think all 360 owners like are FPS, however, this is not true as shown time and time again. We have to take into account that there are now 22 million LIVE Subscribers (Gold and Silver) and out of those 22 Million - 60% like Final Fantasy as seen with the days following the announcement. Out of the 60%, I would say 20% has a PS3 while 10% will not purchase the game. The remaining 30% of the 60% are a may or may not buy the game category.

Now let's put this into context, FFXIII will do far better on Xbox 360 due to current attach rates and the install base. Take the best selling games on both consoles, MGS4 and Halo 3, Halo sold the equivlent amount of games in 24 hours as MGS4 has sold overall. Multiplatform games tend to sell better on 360 because of it's install base and it has the highest attach rate.

FFXIII will do better on the 360? the FF fanbase is larger in japan than Europe and N America put together. Since there is no 360 version for japan(yet) that makes ps3 already getting the upper hand. and don't forget that FFXIII is a system seller aswell.
Now in Europe the 360 and ps3 are pretty much tied. 360 has the upper hand in N america, though keep in mind that FFXIII isn't going to hit the roof like halo did simply because Not many of them are into JRPGs. You can see it from past FF sales in N america.

And remember ps3 has a big line up of system selling games until FFXIII comes out so the install base is going to grow bigger.

PS3 version is definately going to sell more, I'll be more than happy to say "I told you so" when FFXIII comes out.

[Gilgamesh Remix]

I'm not sure about the rest of the World but the PS3 isn't a big seller here, and with the only main title coming out on there being MGS4, most people will probably be willing to bite the bullet and keep their Xbox360 to save them buying a new console just for that one game.

FFXIII being on the 360 is more of a hinderence to the PS3 than it is a grace to the 360.

[Death Knight]

The way I see it, every single X360 user will have a copy of Final Fantasy XIII.

I like you too

[Zezlar]

I agree with Tidus.

[Wedge]

I think FFXIII will sell fantastically on the 360. I personally don't own a PS3 cuz I don't have the cash, and I've been hoping for an XBox FF game since XBox was first released. As a matter of fact that's one main reason I bought Lost Odyssey because it plays like a FF game. Also, not all XBox gamers like fps games I definately prefer RPG's like Oblivion to Halo.

[ArxTheHero]

I think it will do good. Square was smart to go multi platform.

[Luriana]

I think it will do good. Square was smart to go multi platform.

Way to go, Arx :aldo:

I hate when a mf Sony fanboy comes to me and starts flaming the 360 just because it's going to have XIII for it too.

[The Lightning]

FFXIII will do better on the 360? the FF fanbase is larger in japan than Europe and N America put together. Since there is no 360 version for japan(yet) that makes ps3 already getting the upper hand. and don't forget that FFXIII is a system seller aswell.
Now in Europe the 360 and ps3 are pretty much tied. 360 has the upper hand in N america, though keep in mind that FFXIII isn't going to hit the roof like halo did simply because Not many of them are into JRPGs. You can see it from past FF sales in N america.

And remember ps3 has a big line up of system selling games until FFXIII comes out so the install base is going to grow bigger.

PS3 version is definately going to sell more, I'll be more than happy to say "I told you so" when FFXIII comes out.

Playstation 3's upper hand in Japan hasn't seem to have an effect on the Xbox 360 having sole more consoles then the Playstation 3. In Europe, the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are playing a game of Russian Roulette - there's no clear lead for either console.

and don't forget that FFXIII is a system seller aswell.

Thus Attach Rates, Xbox 360 has an attach rate of 7.8 (at E3) while Playstation 3 had 4.5 I believe. System Seller, yes, however, I think FFXIII will be helping Xbox 360 more than Playstation 3. If we were to do a Public Poll on large gaming sites, people will probably say they'll get it for the Xbox 360 more than the Playstation 3.


Now in Europe the 360 and ps3 are pretty much tied. 360 has the upper hand in N america, though keep in mind that FFXIII isn't going to hit the roof like halo did simply because Not many of them are into JRPGs. You can see it from past FF sales in N america.

Most Popular/Hyped/"Console Savior (To Quote Fanboys)" Games Comparison
Halo 3: 8.16 Million Copies (as of Jul. 2008)
Metal Gear Solid 4: 3.03 Million Copies (as of Aug. 2008)

Multi-Platform Games Comparison
Call of Duty 4 (Xbox 360): 6.33 Million (as of December 2007)
Call of Duty 4 (Playstation 3): 3.52 Million (as of April 2008)

Grand Theft Auto IV (Xbox 360): 5.83 Million (as of April 2008)
Grand Theft Auto IV (Playstation 3): 4.31 Million (as of April 2008)

Console Comparison
Xbox 360 Console Sales: 20.40 Million
Playstation 3 Console Sales: 14.97 Million

Source: VGChartz.com - Closes thing I could get without searching for the official NPD Reports.

You're right, it's not going to hit the roof as Halo did and I don't think any game will because Halo 3 has the biggest launch in Video Game History. But we see it time and time again with every multi-platform game, it sells better on Xbox 360. Look at Call of Duty 4 and Grand Theft Auto IV which I have pulled up for informational purposes.


And remember ps3 has a big line up of system selling games until FFXIII comes out so the install base is going to grow bigger.

Both consoles do, that's why it's called buisness. However, again, we refer to Console Attach Rates and Install Bases, guess which one will be doing better?

PS3 version is definately going to sell more, I'll be more than happy to say "I told you so" when FFXIII comes out.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Fanboy, I despise fanboys, I'm merely pointing out the current facts. I like Playstation 3, but if the facts show Xbox 360, I am going to state it out their. However, if it does sell better, I look forward to that comment. :)

[VeraAlexander]

I agree with lightning, but i'm still getting for the PS3.

[dxgirly]

I know A LOT of people who were going to buy a PS3 just for this game that were already 360 owners, so I'm going to assume most of them will just pick it up for the console they have now rather than buying a whole new system. In my opinion, sharing it with 360 faithfuls can only bring good and make money for SE in the US. RPGs are finally gaining some spped on the 360 as well, so by the time FFXIII is released, they'll have a nice RPG fanbase going on in 360 owners

[---Ghost---]

I think it probably will do well, but with games like Final Fantasy that have a ton of things to do it might lag behind in a couple of things. I think it definitely will still be a good game on the 360, but I don't really know how it will stand up in it's performance in different areas on the 360.

[Tiduslv99]

I dont think it will do as well as on the ps3

[Naunen]

I dont think it will do as well as on the ps3

----For what reason?

[Yue]

PS3 is cool, but the Xbox 360 isn't that bad too, so what's wrong when FFXIII would released on the Xbox 360? :|

[UAEchamp]

I'm just asking here are any of you worried that if one of those 4 discs breaks you its like you lost the entire game.

i personally believe that people who have bought molti disc games and had the unfortunate discs brake before they beat it (for example) can relatively affect its sales.

PS do to its size.

[Yue]

I heard that FFXIII will released a PS3 version and a Xbox360 version too. So we don' t have to worry about and we can lay back.

[Xion]

I'm just asking here are any of you worried that if one of those 4 discs breaks you its like you lost the entire game.

i personally believe that people who have bought molti disc games and had the unfortunate discs brake before they beat it (for example) can relatively affect its sales.

PS do to its size.


To the contrary, you are only going to be using 1 disc at a time, while the rest lay safely in their case, so its actually less likely that any one one of the discs will be damaged, than if you had only one disc, because one disc would then receive much more use, resulting in more physical handling of it, and more time in the disc drive.

Also to the contrary, if you damage a disc you have allready played through beyond playability, you can continue the game for atleast that playthrough, while if you had a 1 disc game, you would be unable to continue under any circumstance.

[Neal]

rofl discs dont break from use. If you manage to break a blu-ray just from taking it from the box to the ps3 then you'll also probably break your controller just by picking it up.

I lost my FFVIII disc 3 ages ago, and hadn't completed it for years until I bought another copy. Even then, disc 1 was scratched and wouldnt get past the opening cutscene. :aldo:

[Xion]

rofl discs dont break from use. If you manage to break a blu-ray just from taking it from the box to the ps3 then you'll also probably break your controller just by picking it up.


What? i didnt say it would break from touching it, i said it would be "less likely that any one one of the discs will be damaged" when physically handeled less.

Physical Handling being the keyword. It seemed obvious to me that would come through clearly. If you dont touch something, its immediately less likely to be damaged than if you touched it, picked it up, placed it on the disc drive ect...giving you the possibility of dropping it, or being damaged by your disc drive. Its like how people who collect Action Figures dont like to take it out of the box.

[FFNovaCrystallisAgent]

I only own a 360 and I plan on buying the game on Day 1.

Sucks for the ps3. Sales for the ps3 version will be significantly lower now that it's on the 360.

[Luriana]

360, of course.

I was planning to buy a PS3 for this game and Metal Gear Solid 4, but this X360 release just fell from the heavens, or rose from hell.

[UAEchamp]

a reply to what Xion sed sometimes when you try to take the discs out of there packaging no mater how careful you are there will be a chance of the discs (360) almost braking, something like what happened with the halo 3 package where when you opened it that you would find the disc already scratched.

and from my point of view having to risk that 4 times wouldn't that make FF XIII less appealing on the 360.

im asking this because a friend of mine who owns a 360 told me that (the risk of loosing/damaging etc a game while just trying to open it are threw the roof on the 360 on any game)

again just saying.

[FFNovaCrystallisAgent]

a reply to what Xion sed sometimes when you try to take the discs out of there packaging no mater how careful you are there will be a chance of the discs (360) almost braking, something like what happened with the halo 3 package where when you opened it that you would find the disc already scratched.

and from my point of view having to risk that 4 times wouldn't that make FF XIII less appealing on the 360.

im asking this because a friend of mine who owns a 360 told me that (the risk of loosing/damaging etc a game while just trying to open it are threw the roof on the 360 on any game)

again just saying.

Lol are you kidding me?

Maybe if you have some kinda mental illness or something or uncontrollable hand shaking that causes you to break everything around you I think the chances of someone breaking a disc is ridiculously low. To the point of non existent.

I would love to see someone use that as an excuse for why someone would buy this game on the ps3 as opposed to the 360.

Heck you could probably argue the graphics angle more effectively.

[UAEchamp]

Lol are you kidding me?

Maybe if you have some kinda mental illness or something or uncontrollable hand shaking that causes you to break everything around you I think the chances of someone breaking a disc is ridiculously low. To the point of non existent.

I would love to see someone use that as an excuse for why someone would buy this game on the ps3 as opposed to the 360.

Heck you could probably argue the graphics angle more effectively.

Mental illness look dude im not saying anything about the consols themselves so stop being an anoying fanboy or is being anoying just part of your job im just trying to know somthing not start a fight if you wana fight then lets go face to face.

thats the respect you get for hiding behind a screen and insolting anyone for there views.

FANBOY

[Naunen]

Mental illness look dude im not saying anything about the consols themselves so stop being an anoying fanboy or is being anoying just part of your job im just trying to know somthing not start a fight if you wana fight then lets go face to face.

thats the respect you get for hiding behind a screen and insolting anyone for there views.

FANBOY

----Shut up and don't even think to start.

Lol are you kidding me?

Maybe if you have some kinda mental illness or something or uncontrollable hand shaking that causes you to break everything around you I think the chances of someone breaking a disc is ridiculously low. To the point of non existent.

I would love to see someone use that as an excuse for why someone would buy this game on the ps3 as opposed to the 360.

Heck you could probably argue the graphics angle more effectively.

----He meant, DAMAGING a disc.

[OujiMakaSan]

It really isnt going to be the same playing it on XBox 360 but i still prefer PS3.

[Luriana]

I seriously can't see the point of some people who flame the fact that XIII is coming for the X360 too. Get a fekkin' life, goddamnit.

Personally I think that it's going to be one of the best-sellers on the 360, if not THE best-seller. But I think Halo series is quite hard to beat, but again, that's just me...

[OujiMakaSan]

No..i agree as well it probably will be "THE" top seller.

[Xion]

a reply to what Xion sed sometimes when you try to take the discs out of there packaging no mater how careful you are there will be a chance of the discs (360) almost braking, something like what happened with the halo 3 package where when you opened it that you would find the disc already scratched.

and from my point of view having to risk that 4 times wouldn't that make FF XIII less appealing on the 360.

im asking this because a friend of mine who owns a 360 told me that (the risk of loosing/damaging etc a game while just trying to open it are threw the roof on the 360 on any game)

again just saying.


You speak as if the likeliness were any different for PS3 games..hello, there all DISCS, you are just as likely to drop a Blu Ray as you are to Drop a DVD. That makes no difference in the statistics.


Like i said, You are more likely to break a 1 disc game, than you are to break any 1 disc of a multidisc game. Adding up the statistical likelihood, you are just as likely to drop a disc that accounts for 1 game, than you are to drop any disc allocated to a multidisc game, there difference being that the liklihood is divided up for multi discs,, instead of being one.... So no one in their right mind would buy the 360 version or the ps3 version thinking of which they are more likely to break, because you are, in fact, just as likely to break either one.

@Oujimakasan

FFXIII has next to no chance of being the top seller on 360. 8 Million? probably not

Unless you think about that stuff, it makes no sense, so i understand if you dont understand ;)

[FFNovaCrystallisAgent]

I seriously can't see the point of some people who flame the fact that XIII is coming for the X360 too. Get a fekkin' life, goddamnit.

Personally I think that it's going to be one of the best-sellers on the 360, if not THE best-seller. But I think Halo series is quite hard to beat, but again, that's just me...

No..i agree as well it probably will be "THE" top seller.

I think Halo fanboys (which I am one) are going to be in for a HUGE surprise when it comes to FFXIII.

This game could potentially break all records. Think about all the Nintendo fanboys/supporters who have hated sony and the playstation brand for the longest time. They will buy a 360 just for the chance to play a Final Fantasy game once again. Then it's up to MS to be very smart about this and push a marketing campaign that makes sure everyone knows it's coming out for the 360 and why the experience will be better on the 360.

I think it will a huge hit and MS has a lot riding on this. The future of RPGs on MS consoles (and more importantly the future of Square Enix support) will be determined by how well this game does.

[JmLopez]

i personally, don't care weather it is on 360 or not... i just think that since sony lost in the beginning, and that they are not trying hard enough to keep their exclusives... that thats why people don't want to get a ps3 when they can get all the same games on 360, and since sony isn't working on obtaining xbox exclusives, people can get all the same games from the ps3 and more... so unless sony tries real hard to keep all of their exclusives and obtain the xbox's then i think that they will be losing this race, until the technology of the ps3 becomes cheaper, and when people realize all of the advantages of the ps3

[Zeta_Stryker]

Yeah, they really need a life. I don't know if they know the fact that there's 360 and PS3 people would just rather enjoy these games without having to always find something to quarrel about. But those that do quarrel, I just find it laughable.

[Sundance Kid]

It honestly doesn't matter to me, but it gets annoying when people are assholes about the whole thing saying "Oh I love it when Microsoft takes exclusives from ps3" or "That just goes to show how much better 360 is". Now THAT gets on my nerves. It's not like XIII isn't going to come to ps3 anyways.

[Whitesparkles]

yeah i dont get a a** rats if the FF comes out for the xbox, its just another opportunity for FF to collect a bigger fanbase, i'll always be a Playstation supporter :D

[Sundance Kid]

Yeah that's exactly my point

It just means more fanbase and more people to talk to about it, same goes for Tekken 6 going to 360 I could care less even though I like SONY, it just means it'll help the company get more fans.

[Yue]

FFXIII will release a PS3 and Xbox 360 version, so what' s wrong? Some people say that the animation stuff of the PS3 is better as the 360, although they don't know how the animation stuff of the 360 looks like. It isn't look bad. Is unfair that some games release only for PS3 and the 360. I think that Square Enix release the games now for PS3 and the 360, because is much better as only for the PS3 or the 360. I didn't know which console is better or not, so I just wait up. :|

[Zeta_Stryker]

Well, they seem to have this misconception that the PS3 version will look better due to the Blue Ray media. Well, the 360 trailer that they showed at E3's Microsoft Press Conference just looks identical to the PS3 version.

In anycase, SQUARE overal stated the fact that they wanted the game to look just identical. No features taken away or added.

[Kitmitsu]

Well, they seem to have this misconception that the PS3 version will look better due to the Blue Ray media. Well, the 360 trailer that they showed at E3's Microsoft Press Conference just looks identical to the PS3 version.

In anycase, SQUARE overal stated the fact that they wanted the game to look just identical. No features taken away or added.

That trailer was not the 360 version. If you kept up with news, you'd realise that the game hadn't been moved over to either of the consoles back then. It was running on a PC. I don't believe anyone is saying that Blu-ray will make things look better. I think they're just worried that DVD will make things look worse. If they make them equal that's great but it seems like a pretty challenging task.

[Zeta_Stryker]

^^; My bad, I meant to say that the PS3 version was running during the Microsoft Press. Still, as long as this game delivers a great storyline, has really cool characters (most notably the trio that was announced thus far; Lightning, Snow & Sera). Then that's all that matters with this game.

[Xion]

^ You missed the point, it wasnt running on a PS3 either...the only in-engine footage in that trailer was years old, and at the time ran off a PC. All the rest is pre-rendered CG

[Phoenix117]

If Microsoft can hype up the game enough before release I should do alright on the 360. I still reckon the PS3 version will outsell it though (without counting the Japanese sales of course, being exclusive over there).

The thing that concerns me with the whole multiplatform thing, though, is whether the game is being downgraded to fit on less disks.

[Eufonius]

this isnt exact numbers but wiki numbers so dont trust them it just gives an outline of what I think will happen

Video game units sold in America:
PS3: 5mill
Xbox360: 10.5 mill

as u can see I wont be surprised if xbox sales defeat PS3 at least 2 - 1 cuz I think xbox owners are just as excited about this game as PS3 owners

Video game units sold in UK

PS3: 1.4mill
Xbox: 2.3 million

almost the same situation here im not sure about how the whole of europe feels about the console war and if they care about the whole xbox 360 vs PS3 debate but again I wont be surprised looking just solely at the numbers that Xbox 360 defeats PS3 sales then again there are other factors such as if reviews of the game come in and the Xbox 360 version is like a "watered" down version of PS3 and is missing some bonus features etc.. beacuse it couldnt fit it all in the xbox (which I highly douby willl happen) will of course affect the sales trend but only time will tell...^_^

[Purple]

I think it'll do great in the 360, not sure if it would sell better than the PS3 version since it is exclusive in Japan, but then again the markets of NA & EU combined > Japan. We'll see in a year and a half or so.

[lion Fable]

It sell more copies than both Fable games, cause I'll buy
and mabye my trainer. We both love FF7 and FF8,
it looks bitchin' cool and I was so happy when I it would be on
360 in the states.

Plus in my mind the only thing cooler than Squall's gunblade is Lighting's WMC: weapon of mass
coolness :)

[UAEchamp]

Personally i don't think FFXIII will do that well on the 360 BECOUSE its just one piece of the FNC set witch has versus as the other part on the PS3 the fact that you cant get the full FNC experience on the Xbox may or may not hurt its sale

[Dart-123]

Final Fantasy XIII is going to do well on the Xbox 360, likely equal or better than the PS3 version, because theirs more consoles to sell to and because the Xbox 360 has a better RPG fan base than the Ps3 by leaps-and-bounds. Let's observe:

Xbox 360
Final Fantasy XIII
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Star Ocean 4
Infinite Undiscovery
Mass Effect
Sacred 2
Fable II
FInal Fantasy XI

PS3
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy versus XIII
Foklore
DC Universe Online

No competition on any level whatsoever.

[Zokenzu]

The content will be the same I believe. I guess only thing that will change on the 360 is graphics and the amount of disks. However, I guess if they put in more disks, they can have more room to include the better graphics. Question is, will the 360 handle and process the graphics successfully with no lag? We will see. In terms of sales, I believe FFXIII will be equally successful with the 360, especially with FF's reputation of making crazy games, even if it is only one part of the NFC set.

[Luriana]

Final Fantasy XIII is going to do well on the Xbox 360, likely equal or better than the PS3 version, because theirs more consoles to sell to and because the Xbox 360 has a better RPG fan base than the Ps3 by leaps-and-bounds. Let's observe:

Xbox 360
Blue Dragon

No competition on any level whatsoever.

Seriously, Blue Dragon was a kick in the balls.

The content will be the same I believe. I guess only thing that will change on the 360 is graphics and the amount of disks. However, I guess if they put in more disks, they can have more room to include the better graphics. Question is, will the 360 handle and process the graphics successfully with no lag? We will see. In terms of sales, I believe FFXIII will be equally successful with the 360, especially with FF's reputation of making crazy games, even if it is only one part of the NFC set.

Like you said, one of the problems the XBox 360 will have to face is the disk quantity one (not that this is going to be a heartstabbing issue). But IMO, it's the only one, the 360 can handle the graphics as good as the PS3, although I think they'll have to be sorta ported for the 360.

[The_Steve]

eye was really hoping it would remain a ps3 exclusive, but what ever. it'll do fine on 360, get SE more cash, allowing them to make better games. however, if they remake ffvii, it should remain a PS exclusive.