Sony Pissed about FFXIII?

[Kitmitsu]

It just seems odd to me that a game which began on the PS3 would have a new trailer only revealed at the Microsoft Conference. What reason could there have been for Sony not to even mention the title during their press conference? To me, it either feels like Square has a new relationship with Microsoft which they're trying to keep sweet or Sony just doesn't want to bother with (forgive me for overstating this) a betrayal from a loyal partner.

There is the option that Square didn't want to give Sony a trailer but that seems a bit crazy for a game which will almost certainly sell more on their platform. I don't know if companies that large are quite that petty but it just seems strange.

[ozonez]

TO it just seemed like logic, whats the point of showing a trailer which was shown at MS Conference when they have other stuff to talk about.

I don't think there is alot of hate to them, the PS3 is still getting Versus XIII exclusive and is still getting XIII anyway. Its a PS3 exclusive in Japan plus i think soon Sony will promoting WKC over FF.

IF anything has happened after yesterday its that Sony know they have to try hard to keep Versus an exclusive.

[Enedok]

Sony can't do much about the Final Fantasy now. At E3 all titles was soon to come or new one. They did not include Final Fantasy to tell "We still have it". Square-Enix is still a long time/years from finishing the game and Sony will just wait before they include it in promotions.

Just Look how Killzone 2 had to wait so Resistance 2 Could shine and sell more.

[Terros]

I was shocked when I heard, I thought all the main FF's would stay exclusive. What a bummer, and after they'd been loyal so long...I wonder why they changed now. Did they say why?

[Maiya]

I thought it was because of financial problems or at least that's what most people have been claiming. But I can't really blame SE anymore, their choice.

[Adam Blade]

I was major pissed and yeah.. why did they make it multi-plat? or timed exclusive... especially the main game..

[BUTTCHEEKIES, OOH]

I was major pissed and yeah.. why did they make it multi-plat? or timed exclusive... especially the main game..
In a nutshell: they want/need more dough.

[Naunen]

Is Sony really actually pissed or is that a summary of their reaction? :blink: They still got Versus. :rolleyes:

[Maiya]

Has Sony even said anything about SE porting FFXIII to the Xbox?

[vieya]

Is Square doing that bad in the Financial situation?

[steve]

i contacted them to try and find y they did this here is what they had to say "In regards to why this decision was made, the statement from our parent company in Japan is "We decided to release FF13 on the Xbox360 in order to provide it to more users around the world. As you may know, currently, game console install bases are diversified by region. We believe that we have made the best decision for users as well as for ourselves given that we will be able to provide FF13 to as many users as we can while maintaining features such as high-quality graphics." so apparently they decided to do this just to make it available to other gamers instead of just playstation owners like us which they have done from the start (except spin-offs). I am currently waiting for a reply in regards with versus still being an exclusive i will post the reply as soon as i get it.

[vieya]

thanks!

although I don't know how much that reaching other gamers thing is really working out. I mean if they want it that badly to begin with they'd probably buy the PS3, although maybe like they said the PS3 isn't as good graphically as the X-Box?

[Xion]

thanks!

although I don't know how much that reaching other gamers thing is really working out. I mean if they want it that badly to begin with they'd probably buy the PS3, although maybe like they said the PS3 isn't as good graphically as the X-Box?


well obviously alot more people now have the option to buy the game that otherwise didnt, that the whole point..as for the graphics thing lets not even get into that war waiting to happen..both have strengths and weaknesses. lets just leave it at that

[Thimien]

This may be as simple as, its cheaper to port the game to a 360 then having it just as an exclusive on ps3. If it was just a ps3 exclusive, Square would obviasly have to rely on the sales just on the ps3, and after spending the money to burn their game on BlueRay (alot of $ i assume) now its going multi, its like a safety net for square. Ps3 game sales will still be the same, but on the 360 its pure profit, since all 360 users have been wishing their lives away to get a FFgame on their console.

Has for the processing speed and the graphics, the 1st thing some 360 noob is gona do, is have both consoles load the game up at the same time to prove a point.... meaning the PS3 is slower becouse the game is on a completly different platform interely, and is running the same game, wich program wise is alot bigger and hopefully graphic wise alot better then the 360 port.

[Unknown Kaze]

So basically everyone is agreeing that Squeenix did it for the dough, and to be honest I also believe that thats the reason as well. As for Sony being pissed off, I don't think thats the case, i just think its cos Sueenix is taking like a million years to complete FFXIII and all the other titles shown have release dates whereas Final Fantasy isn't even anywhere near 50% complete.

[vieya]

Maybe if Sony were to pay them a large sum(to gain a lot of profit) then they'd keep it exclusive. I mean they need money right? So like someone said X-Box can be a guarantee for that since they aren't getting any bling from Sony.

[steve]

Maybe if Sony were to pay them a large sum(to gain a lot of profit) then they'd keep it exclusive. I mean they need money right? So like someone said X-Box can be a guarantee for that since they aren't getting any bling from Sony.


sony has been spending all their money to make the PS3's hardware betteer and making other software for it, so they didnt enough money to keep it ean exclusive.

[Kitmitsu]

Ummm, few exclusives are paid for. Also your statement that Sony doesn't have enough money to pay for the exclusivity is bullshit I'm afraid. Sony could pay for whatever they want but what Square-Enix wanted is more sales, not hand-outs.

[steve]

i just square-enix's reply here is what they said "We hope this letter answers your questions. Thank you for taking the time to write to us. At this time that game will only be released on PS3." so hopefully it will stay like it is. Ummm, few exclusives are paid for. Also your statement that Sony doesn't have enough money to pay for the exclusivity is bullshit I'm afraid. Sony could pay for whatever they want but what Square-Enix wanted is more sales, not hand-outs. if they wanted more sales=money y r they only making the 360 version in the u.s, canada, and europe, and NOT japan. so if they wanted more sales explain that then genius

[Xion]

if they wanted more sales=money y r they only making the 360 version in the u.s, canada, and europe, and NOT japan. so if they wanted more sales explain that then genius


ofcourse the point of the multiplatform announcement was to get more sales and more money..however since the 360 install base in Japan is so tiny, they feel the cost of publishing it in that region is not worth it.

[steve]

if they did release it in japan atleast they might make same profit not a lot but some

[Kitmitsu]

if they did release it in japan atleast they might make same profit not a lot but some

Possibly, but not enough to justify it apparently. I doubt Square-Enix is deliberately punishing it's fans by not releasing it for 360 in Japan....they do research.

[flyboys21]

I think, in my opinion, that what square-enix did on their decision was wise. They wanted to spread the FF phenomenia to the whole world, especially to 360 users. As I love being a Sony fan, Sony needs to get their act together to generate more ps3 sales. However, as a gamer I don't really care what square-enix or any other big gaming company do as long as they publish good games. I think that what most gamers want in life, a descent game to enjoy.

[Terros]

I'm not mad about it, I can see there reasoning, I love the playstation to death, but I know that Sony can handle more losses than Square can, and frankly, I love Square's games and don't wanna see them put oughtta buisness, so for now while they're not doing so well...they need to do what it takes.

[Sundance Kid]

Possibly, but not enough to justify it apparently. I doubt Square-Enix is deliberately punishing it's fans by not releasing it for 360 in Japan....they do research.
It'd be a bit of an unecessary hassle anyways for something with very little profit in the end

[Wandering Hands]

To be honest, I severely doubt they'd actually get a profit for a Japan 360 version. I'm sure Japanese 360 owners have arrived at a situation and not done something because it simply wasn't worth it. But alas, when it's done to them, it's the ultimate betrayal and heads must roll.

Of course, it doesn't make a difference to me either way.

[Naunen]

I heard XBox 360 isn't so popular in Japan.

[Thimien]

well when you think Japan, you think Nintendo and Sony Playstation, well at least they get rewards for beeing loyal supporters of Sony and Squeenix, 360 sells well cause americans are cheap hahaha
"OMG OMG $600 for a PS3!!!!" grow some balls please

[vieya]

according to the new article sony isn't mad at square and believes they should do what's best for themselves and that microsoft did infact pay them to make the game for their system. although I don't know how reliable that article is.

[AT23]

What Naunen said is correct. PS3 has versus still (and too). Sony might have had their feathers ruffled by SE's announcement of FFXIII's shared debut on the Xbox360, but there is nothing Sony can do about that.

Touching on the subject of the Xbox360 not doing so well in Japan, seems to be a fact. There are far more wii and PS3 owners than the casual 360 owners there. It is partially due to a bit of international business affairs and politics. The japanese (and any country having pride in their own products) like to have their developements (the wii and PS3) do well in their country. The 360 is american, and not only that but is backed by microsoft, the monopoliser of computer/entertainment competition. Although it may seem ridiculous, the japanese does not want to be ousted at what their field of forte is. Therefore, they're going to promote the PS3 and wii or not promote the 360 to keep their products at a competetive level. If you think of it in a simplistic matter, it's dominating another country's territory. Japan (nor any other country that I know of) doesn't want to be dominated by the U.S..

[BUTTCHEEKIES, OOH]

What Naunen said is correct. PS3 has versus still (and too). Sony might have had their feathers ruffled by SE's announcement of FFXIII's shared debut on the Xbox360, but there is nothing Sony can do about that.

Touching on the subject of the Xbox360 not doing so well in Japan, seems to be a fact. There are far more wii and PS3 owners than the casual 360 owners there. It is partially due to a bit of international business affairs and politics. The japanese (and any country having pride in their own products) like to have their developements (the wii and PS3) do well in their country. The 360 is american, and not only that but is backed by microsoft, the monopoliser of computer/entertainment competition. Although it may seem ridiculous, the japanese does not want to be ousted at what their field of forte is. Therefore, they're going to promote the PS3 and wii or not promote the 360 to keep their products at a competetive level. If you think of it in a simplistic matter, it's dominating another country's territory. Japan (nor any other country that I know of) doesn't want to be dominated by the U.S..
That sounds pretty patriotic of the Japs.

[Whiplash]

^Sounds fairly much like any other country. I know we're encouraged to 'buy local' produce and support Australian goods (because I have a desperate need for uranium). Plus the Japanese have historically been, for want of a better word, 'patriotic'. Pretty much since the time they learnt of America's existence they've been working towards avoiding being dominated by them (post-war occupation not counted). It's not surprising that they'd support the locals over Microsoft.

[BUTTCHEEKIES, OOH]

^Sounds fairly much like any other country. I know we're encouraged to 'buy local' produce and support Australian goods (because I have a desperate need for uranium). Plus the Japanese have historically been, for want of a better word, 'patriotic'. Pretty much since the time they learnt of America's existence they've been working towards avoiding being dominated by them (post-war occupation not counted). It's not surprising that they'd support the locals over Microsoft.
History lesson aside (thanks btw), I don't know, I've personally never really heard anyone reason like this. It's either "BUY BECAUSE IT'S CHEAP!" or "BUY BECAUSE OF IT'S QUALITY/OFFER!" but never, "MY LOCAL MADE THIS, SO I'LL BUY THIS INSTEAD." Hell, I pick American/English candy over this Swiss bullshit everyday. And pay an extra buck or two at that. But I suppose I don't count since I'm an immigrant. /^: Anyway, I think my point still stands.

[Whiplash]

^Very odd that you've never encountered it (I could give you a similar history lesson on how it's been used in Europe since the birth of consumerism (happily co-incided, even contributed to depending on how you look at it, with the huge growth in nationalistic sentiment in the late 19th-early 20th century) and I'd be fairly certain still does with some industries in any large countries (France I'm looking at you)). I blame the fact that you're in Switzerland, neutrality can have a strange affect on places.

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[AT23]

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[adiduz]

...Whenever Final Fantasy XIII is released and 360 owners enjoy the game and want more aren't they eventually going to have to get the PS3 for more fantasy? ( hoping that Final Fantasy Versus XIII still stays true to its word being exclusive?):blink: This could result in more PS3's being sold.

[ZeroStat1c]

I think, in my opinion, that what square-enix did on their decision was wise. They wanted to spread the FF phenomenia to the whole world, especially to 360 users. As I love being a Sony fan, Sony needs to get their act together to generate more ps3 sales. However, as a gamer I don't really care what square-enix or any other big gaming company do as long as they publish good games. I think that what most gamers want in life, a descent game to enjoy.

I whole-heartedly agree with Flyboy. I too love being a sony fan but all in all, I dont care what happens to games, as long as its really great and I enjoy it.