The "Real time" graphics

[Neal]

lol I saw this spread around other places so I thought I'd draw it all to one place. :aldo: *Genius*

Anyway, if you read the news on the front page (http://finalfantasyversusxiii.net/2008/01/23/in-game-screenshots-of-final-fantasy-versus-xiii.html) you'll see a summary of all this real time graphics talk. :aldo: I agree with...what I said in that article :cunning:

COMMENTS?

[Inferno187]

I'm with you all the way =3

[Pixel]

The graphics looks amazing.

Much <3 Square. :cookie:

[xiLenT]

If those two pictures are "real-time" well then DAMN!

[Anima]

Omg they look amazing for real time graphics. *-*

[Kätharina]

:saywhutnow: if they are actually in-time.
If they are, i'd be amazed.

[ozonez]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was, SE are obviously trying really hard with these games. The CG already looks amazing.

[Blackk49]

If thoses are the "real-time" graphic....welll like 0.0 oh my that is liek extremly good D:, *is to poor to buy a ps3*

[Cilvia]

hmm, graphics are good, but i was expecting something more exiting.

[Passion]

If these pictures are definately real-time then definately DAYMN. They're brilliant, even if they're not real-time they're still good screens.

[Cilvia]

+ versus guy is looking like vincent >_<

[Passion]

+ versus guy is looking like vincent >_<

Do you think? :cookie: I don't.

[Cilvia]

at the real time graphics- look at his face!

[Thimien]

bring on the next Gen stuff.. FF 13 and versus will be a start of a new era :)

[xiLenT]

bring on the next Gen stuff.. FF 13 and versus will be a start of a new era :)

Amen...!!!

[Misschoco]

hmm, graphics are good, but i was expecting something more exiting.
a better advancement then anything else-damn those graphics are good :rolleyes:

[XwingsofaresX]

If those two pictures are "real-time" well then DAMN!

:saywhutnow: if they are actually in-time.
If they are, i'd be amazed.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was, SE are obviously trying really hard with these games. The CG already looks amazing.

+ versus guy is looking like vincent >_<
haha. that...is...freaking...AWESOME!!!
real-time graphics will be so sweet! i cant wait to see the final product of the game!^_^

[Mr Kapow]

Seriously after final fantasy XIII and versus are released, every other company will try and follow in their footsteps. hopefully that made sense

[xiLenT]

Seriously after final fantasy XIII and versus are released, every other company will try and follow in their footsteps. hopefully that made sense

I was thinking the same thing, SE always brings new stuff into gaming. Once I get FFXIII, Versus, MGS4 I can die happy.

[Neal]

Seriously after final fantasy XIII and versus are released, every other company will try and follow in their footsteps. hopefully that made sense
Im thinking/hoping that will be the graphical standard by 2009.

[Final]

Wauwa!!! If that's true,, I will just sit and stare at the screen non stop.. Amazing!! GO SE!!!

[Devious]

No massive amounts of flying sword and guns? =( I'm disappointed.

Other than that, the graphics are great. Like, better than PS2 cutscenes.

[Neal]

No massive amounts of flying sword and guns? =( I'm disappointed.

Other than that, the graphics are great. Like, better than PS2 cutscenes.
Of course they are better than PS2 cutscenes... if you mean CG then the gameplay isn't better than CG. :lol:

[Anima]

Square-Enix wtf! :cookie:

[S-r-ex]

So much for the Xenox :V Prolly goodbye to the 360 for graphic-whores, then.

[ozonez]

I swear last year SE said that the gameplay would look better then PS2 cutscenes.

[Pulse]

I think it does look better than PS2 cutscenes, we need to give them a chance, i think its because the in game shots of XIII are amazing we are waiting to compare them. Thus, making us think more about the detail in versus.

Josh x

[Reviarth]

I know graphics don't usually dictate whether a game will be good or not but god DAMN it sure helps especially in this game o_o. More motivation for me to buy a PS3 I guess ^^

[Miles]

hmm, graphics are good, but i was expecting something more exiting.

something more than this o_o (?)

[Terros]

Awesome real time graphics = love.

But if they're lying, I'll go to square and beat the crap out them.

[Final]

^ awwwww.... Then me would be sad :(
Can't you just slap them a little? :P

[Terros]

^ awwwww.... Then me would be sad :(
Can't you just slap them a little? :P
A lie like that does NOT get a "little" slap.

[Red 5]

Hi:

This is my first Post in this Forum and I couldn't choose better Post to Start. The "Real Time" images of FFvsXIII get me excited a LOT. This is by far the MOST impressive graphics I've ever seen in videogames but, are those real?
I mean, it's only rumors and maybe the face doesn't look THAT good like the CG's but the cloths are the same, the skin and muscles are AMAZINGLY the same. Well, the cloth of the "Misterious guy" are a little flat on the shouldres, but everything else is PERFECT. I can't imagine myself playing the game on worlds like this one (Scans) with this graphics on the PLAYSTATION 3. Maybe on the 4th.
Could someone tell me PLEASE who said that about this pics? It's true? Are "In Engine" or "In Game"?
Nothing, NOTHING elsewhere are so AWESOME, even Crysis.

Thank's

Red 5.

[Welrod_Wayne]

This is my first post here. Hello everyone.

I just wanted to tell everyone to stop acting like Square said these were real time. This is just a rumor. I really want these to be in-engine but we don't know if they are. All they said is that they are aiming to use the full specifications of the PS3. So no one is lying. "Aiming" is the key word. I might be aiming at someones head in Call of Duty 4 with a sniper rifle but I will probably still miss once I fire.

And aiming to use full specifications doesn't mean they are going to max out the consoles power either. I am not doubting that those graphics are possible on Playstation 3. After all, Naughty Dog said that Uncharted is only using about one third of PS3's power. Judging by that I would say that graphics like the "rumored" in-game shots of Versus XIII would be using at least 80%. I am not an expert but I'm sure you could agree with that.

Just look at the screenshots! I can't find one flaw. Everything looks pre-rendered except for their faces and the faces still look amazing.

That would be one hell of an engineering effort on Square Enix's part. Making an engine that can use 80% of a consoles power within the first 2 years of its launch.

I don't know why I am rambling like this. Just do what I am doing. Expect the worst. That way, if these are in-engine screens you will flip out (in a good way). If they aren't, then you won't be as disappointed.

[BlankChocobo]

Yes, I'd like to know where these rumors started, actually. =_____=; People are going to get upset when this specific scene is a cutscene, no matter how good the in-game graphics are, because these rumors are getting all over the place and people are believing them to have come from some reputable source. ~_~

Regardless, I think Versus looks awesome~ ^_^

[Fenrin]

Square have lied before.

When the PlayStation 2 was announced, a few clips of its graphical ability were shown to an audience and on Japanese television. One of them was a "real-time" PlayStation 2 reproduction of the Final Fantasy VIII ballroom dance scene. It was later discovered that the clip was pre-rendered.

I don't think Square Enix have claimed that these screenshots are real-time, but if they do, it should be taken with a bit of skepticism.

[BlankChocobo]

Square have lied before.

When the PlayStation 2 was announced, a few clips of its graphical ability were shown to an audience and on Japanese television. One of them was a "real-time" PlayStation 2 reproduction of the Final Fantasy VIII ballroom dance scene. It was later discovered that the clip was pre-rendered.

I don't think Square Enix have claimed that these screenshots are real-time, but if they do, it should be taken with a bit of skepticism.

Square-Enix has not said that they are, as far as I know ~_~ And I've been reading a crapload of stuff recently.

I want to know why these particular images got singled out as possibly being from in-game? Anyone have any ideas why they got decided on?

[Fenrin]

This might have something to do with it. (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2008/01/23/in-game-screenshots-of-final-fantasy-versus-xiii.html)

Their quality is a lot lower than other screenshots, so we can fairly assume they're real-time. It's not necessarily true, though...

[Kätharina]

This might have something to do with it. (http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2008/01/23/in-game-screenshots-of-final-fantasy-versus-xiii.html)

Their quality is a lot lower than other screenshots, so we can fairly assume they're real-time. It's not necessarily true, though...

Oh curses :aldo:

I haven't really thought on why these pictures have been singled out, nor do i really care.
Once i see some in-game use of the battle system, i shall be satisfied, but we most likely not to hear or see anything on the battle system of both games for a while.

[Mavet]

I doubt the in-game graphics will be better than the PS2 CG.
Remember the CG's in FFX? They were amazing.
Now Im sure the PS3 has the power to make in-game graphics amazing nonetheless but seriously, they arent CG's for nothing. You cannot compare something thats not rendered to something thats rendered, It doesnt matter what platform we're talking about.

It will be cool though.

[Kätharina]

I would say that the in-game will be better than the FFX CG.
It's obvious SE have inproved in the CGI department through the years, so comparing the in-game graphic's to FFX's CG is slightly realistic.
I mean, srsly, look at Uncharted :aldo: <3

[Thimien]

I have high hopes for both FF games, we have seen some of the potental game play of FF13, has for Versus.. and these images beeing singled out.... hmmm in past games they normaly show some screen shots of game play, and you can tell the deference strait away from the CG, on Versus the only shots i can nerly be sure they are not CG are the ones with the main caracter and the girl with does symbols on their backs, aparantly does are the only game play/battle shots we have, when you look at them, and all the others you can tell the deference, and honestly if game play graphicks are that damn good, i really dont give a crap about real-time.. cause i like what i see.

Whos with me :)

[Mavet]

I would say that the in-game will be better than the FFX CG.
It's obvious SE have inproved in the CGI department through the years, so comparing the in-game graphic's to FFX's CG is slightly realistic.
I mean, srsly, look at Uncharted :aldo: <3

Im sorry but I disagree with you. You simply cant compare a rendered image to a non rendered image.
And until I dont see a battle menu or hp bar etc, I wont believe that those "in-game" images are not rendered.
Dont get me wrong, I think the graphics are excellently perfected, but I still doubt that the non rendered images of FFXvsIII are higher quality in graphics than FFX's CG images.

[Zen]

If they wanted to make the whole game into real time it would take alot of time and work. No slacking off ever. Their job would be a living hell. @_@

[Reviarth]

I actually have faith in Square that this game will be everything I ever hoped for Story wise,gameplay wise, and graphics wise.

*yells with tears in his eyes*
I believe you square!! TT_TT

[BlankChocobo]

If they wanted to make the whole game into real time it would take alot of time and work. No slacking off ever. Their job would be a living hell. @_@

Nomura already apparently loves to torment his dudes, seeing as he's hasn't even designed the main character completely yet and they already did at least some of th CG, and probably a bit more than we have seen. They're gunna have to redo everything they've done, I think. :lol: I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them are dead by the time Versus comes out~ But it's all for a good cause. Their deaths shall not be in vain. ^___^

I believe you square!! TT_TT

I believe in you too, SE! >_______<

[Zen]

Lol i hope so. If the whole game is like it is in CS (Cut scenes) this game would be even better then people belive. I really hope this game comes out soon. Im looking foreward to it.

[Kurai Warrior]

well if they are going to have to re-do everything they have done, then what was the purpose of the work they have done on it in the past 2 years..... Anyway, the in game graphics look great to me, but I really think that to fully grasp what it will be like, we need to see either a video or more high quality screens of gameplay.
I don't see this game coming out until late next year... which is depressing... XD

[Cilvia]

guys, SE- is a company of clowns, who make us crazy
they have completed the game already, and there is already new clothes style in.
They just kiddin us, to not lose our interest for FFXIII and versus
more new strange info- more discussion about it. Less chance to lose fans.
they just compaining parts of the game together now,and voiceing it.

[Kurai Warrior]

I don't remember them saying the game was near completion or completed at any point.... And why would he say they are GOING to make changes just to screw with us?
As for the gameplay shots, possibly not being gameplay....I don't see how the cut scene graphics de-generated in those screens if they weren't gameplay shots.... but who knows at this point

[Cilvia]

rofl you didnt understand me
they WON'T tell us that the game completed- lesser discussion about it when to come out

[Kurai Warrior]

If its done, or almost done, I DEMAND more info and a NEW trailer that includes gameplay XD

[Terros]

We needs some in-game footage. Like now.

[Hextan]

Wow you couldn't be more right. As for the "screenshots" if they are in game that's impressive. But then again I really don't think they are. I would like to think that when square finally decides to show us in game stuff it will look more interesting then those two images.

[Cilvia]

if they have only started making the game,like SE says, it means, we shall wait for it for 4 years, what is impossible,-of course the game is finished now, they are just updating some details ;)

[Terros]

You think they've even started working on the in-game stuff yet?

[Red 5]

if they have only started making the game,like SE says, it means, we shall wait for it for 4 years, what is impossible,-of course the game is finished now, they are just updating some details ;)
Hi:

I really DON'T understand what you mean. Why do you say Square-Enix has finished the game? In the Concept or scrypt? Just updating some details? When they Started the game?
I think they aren't finished the game yet, neither have a release date.
One thing that confuse me is that they release video apparently CGI's only. It means nothing of the game, just the story.
My guess is: The game is not over and we'll see it on 2010 or 2011. Final Fatasy XIII on 2009. Maybe they are working just like Insomniac Games having a basic state of the game and adding a LOT (not some) of geometry, effects, shading, lights and shadows, etc.
Square-Enix games on PlayStation 2 aren't widescreen, neither 480p (just a few).
The Full Specs of the PLAYSTATION 3 are Full HD 1080p (1920x1080p 60fps), Dolby TRUE HD Sound (7.1Ch uncompressed audio), 128 Bits color precision (48 bits HDMI 1.3), 6 SPE's for games, Blu-ray+Cell+RSX.
I read before that White Engine uses 4 of the 6 SPE's.... If Final Fantasy XIII is going to be a Full Specs of the PLAYSTATION 3 (Square-Enix said so), That means the game will be Full HD 1920x1080p 60fps and the other Specs, especially the 6 SPE's?

[Thimien]

i dont think its finished.. i think theres alot to do still, if it was finished they would of releaced alot more info by now, we dont even know the name of main character.. keep waiting people

[Cilvia]

well, the most longest part in game making takes glueing pieces of game into the one completed.
i dont think 2011 year is which on we will see the game. rofl, i think i will lose interest with ff when the 3 years will pass ^^
2009 for both i think.
the best 2008 is for XIII
Thiemen- we dont know, SE knew from the beginning.
lol, ppl, why are you so naive? you think, all the square has freshly made, they run to show us it?the trailer which have been seen in mega theatre in 2006 have been shown to the rest of public only a month ago...

[Pulse]

lol, ppl, why are you so naive? you think, all the square has freshly made, they run to show us it?the trailer which have been seen in mega theatre in 2006 have been shown to the rest of public only a month ago...

We know this already. Production on this game began just after they completed Final Fantasy X. So in theory, as it was started on the ps2 then they had to change it all over for the ps3, i would say that the game is 2 years more in development than what they are showing us at the minute. I dont think its 'old' stuff, not by a long shot, but it might be.

In the versus trailer that was released on the cloud dvd, they added new stuff to that like the statues with tears and so on, so they can obviously change stuff in the cg, it'll just be a lot more difficult haha.

As for the comment you made about it being released to 'the world', it has only been released to japan, it is fortunate however that the internet enables us to pass this information from fans to fans. Square have not released hardly any information outside of japan officially.

Josh x

[Terros]

If there is any info about either game coming soon, the outside world will be the last to know. That's why we have peeps who can translate for us. *hugs blankchocobo*