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BlankChocobo
Jan 20 2008, 12:49 AM
It's not really news, so it's going here. I finally got it finished ^^; Here comes the longest post ever... Subject to revision and addition as I find out how much I forgot to shuffle in or fix. >____>;


The original report is here: http://ffkh.blog31.fc2.com/blog-entry-2637.html#extended
But they won't match up anymore, since this one is the product of a lot of talking to Kanae, and actually has more detail than her own site does now. :lol: Her main blog site is http://ffkh.blog31.fc2.com/. Thank her sometime with the http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/kdr82/Thank.jpg button on her and Yui's news posts. They do a lot for us~








The trailer begins with the words “This is a fantasy based on reality.”

Then the scene where the car exits the tunnel onto the expressway (the one we see at the beginning of the CLOUD trailer) is shown. The voice of the radio can be heard.


The peace accord bound with his Excellency Verdan(ヴェルダンVe-ru-da-n) at Nigelheim (ニグルハイム Ni-gu-ru-ha-i-mu)…the reopening negotiations regarding the future peaceful use of our nation’s crystal…Everyone is hoping for the end of this cold war state. And then also, the next king’s…”


(Kanae makes note here that we can’t know if Nigelheim is the name of the other nation. She thinks it may just be the name of the city where the peace accord was made. She also thinks the last sentence probably concludes with something about either an election or a coronation.)

The car drives off.


The scene we’ve already seen with the soldiers on the stairs starts, but soon changes to the scene with the girl. The background in the girl’s scene is a modern skyscraper area like Shinjuku in Tokyo. The girl wears a three-tiered ruffled skirt, and has a dark expression on her face. She is wearing boots. The boots and skirt are both black. Her hair is silverish/blondish and somewhat long. Her eye color is some shade of purple.


The protagonist runs up. The battle scene between the protagonist and the soldiers is mixed in with the scene of the girl and the protagonist seeing each other. The protagonist seems surprised to see her. She does not look happy to see him. There is a tunnel behind the protagonist.

It then changes scenes to a road through a desert wasteland (the one shown in the V-Jump scans). It looks like a scene from a western film, pretty incongruous with the expensive black car running through it. There are broken telephone poles lining the road. By the sun, it appears to be early morning or evening.


Then, the scene changes again to a meeting room. The room is silver colored. It gives a completely different impression from the architecture of the cathedral-like building that we saw earlier (the building the protagonist comes out of). It’s a very rich-looking room. The chandelier, table and such appear to be made out of black stone, like obsidian. Men in black suits are sitting around a rectangular table and all discussing something with the others sitting near them. Rather than the FF12 senate, it feels more like a meeting of the mafia. Among them are bald men wearing sunglasses, and some with “all-back” hairstyles (a hairstyle associated with the yakuza, Japanese mafia, see example here~ http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/kdr82/44531.jpg


Then, the scene changes again and continues with the fight scene between the protagonist and the soldiers, nearing the end of the CLOUD DVD footage. The protagonist lands, the soldiers fire the missile, the protagonist turns and his red eyes are shown. Between the protagonist deflecting the missiles with his weapons and him disappearing into the door, words are shown on the screen, which were cut from the Jump Festa trailer (I think). A man in a white hood and white robe places his hand on a black coffin-like object behind the throne, and magic begins to manifest. The white hooded man has long blond hair. The protagonist, glaring at the white-hooded man, enters the throne room. The white hooded man turns, pulls up his hood, and faces off against the protagonist.


Then, it changes scenes to mid-day in a medieval-like town. The shotgun guy first appears alone and does not seem to be familiar with the town, and then the protagonist is shown to come up from behind and the two walk together. The shotgun guy makes a bunch of interesting expressions, sticks out his tongue and smacks his lips, but the protagonist doesn’t smile. The shotgun guy is shown in V-Jump here by himself.

The shotgun guy is talking in a friendly manner with the protagonist, and although there are no voices, he appears to say something like “Hey! You---!” by the movement of his mouth. The shotgun guy then notices something and puts his arm over the protagonist’s shoulder. The shotgun guy says something like “Hey! Look over there,” and shows something to the protagonist. This is the only scene in which there are “extra” type characters who do not appear to be main characters.

Then, in a new scene (new to the Jump Festa trailer), two new characters appear.

A big guy appearing to be around 30 years of age, who looks a bit like FFXIII’s Mr. 33cm. His hair is dark brown. He seems like a reliable character. He is wearing clothes similar to Barret’s. There is a scar over his left eye, and has a beard over much of his face. His hair is in a long “all back” style. Around his neck is a key-like object.

A guy in a suit, with a Turk-like feel to him is the other. He has a hairstyle like an actor named “Gori,” and a little like “The World Ends With You”’s Hanekoma’s hairstyle. It curls up a bit at the back. His hair color is black to very dark brown. He is not particularly heavily built, but he isn’t particularly skinny either. He looks a little like Crisis Core’s Lazard. He has silver tags around his neck. He has light grey tinted sunglasses/glasses. These characters are both shown in V-Jump.

Like the shotgun guy did to the protagonist before, the big guy puts his arm over the shotgun guy’s shoulder. Laughing, he horses around with the shotgun guy. The shotgun guy hits the big guy’s hand lightly as if to say “Hey! Get off me, please!” and says something like “I give up! I give up!” The suit guy with the glasses is behind them, but he isn’t paying any attention to them. He’s looking elsewhere and doesn’t seem to have any interest in what they’re doing.

The trailer returns to the wasteland. The car stops, and the shotgun guy and the protagonist get out. The protagonist gets out on the right side and the shotgun guy gets out from the left. The shotgun guy always has his shotgun over his shoulder. The road ahead of them is flooded. The shotgun guy looks out at it and goes “Oh…” They stare out at the road ahead.

Here, the scene with the white-hooded man continues. The protagonist and the white hooded man stand in front of the throne. They surround each other with swords and magical symbols, and it appears to be a stalemate. Unlike the scene with the girl, they manifest no coats of arms behind themselves. This scene is shown in V Jump.

The trailer jumps back to the silver meeting room. The men in black suits sit down at the table, and look at a leader-like man. His hair is short and white-streaked. He is neither thin nor fat. He has a beard that goes around his whole mouth. He speaks to them as if angry.

Double posting because this post is too long :lol:

BlankChocobo
Jan 20 2008, 12:50 AM
The scene then changes to the inside of the black car. The suit guy with the glasses is driving. In the passenger seat next to him is the shotgun guy. In the right back seat is the protagonist. Next to the protagonist is the big guy. The car has a GPS (lol). The two in the front appear to be a bit nervous. The big guy looks back behind the car. The protagonist says something to the suit guy.

The scene with the protagonist and the soldiers continues.

Then, a building that looks like a mixture of medieval and modern architecture is shown. From below the left part of it, lower than we can see, smoke is rising. We can't see the lower half of the building or the building's surroundings. Kanae thinks this building’s size and feel is similar to the one we have seen the protagonist come out from. The protagonist, the shotgun guy, the big guy and the suit guy look on from what appears to be high ground. . This is the shot of the four of them that we get in V-Jump. The protagonist turns and leaves, and the others follow suit.

Part of the scene with the girl and the protagonist that was shown previously in the trailer repeats here. The protagonist’s clothes seem a little dusty, but it might just be the lightning. The two rush at each other. It doesn’t appear to be their first meeting. They have an expression on their faces that says “We meet at last.” Suddenly, coats of arms appear behind the two of them. The one behind the protagonist is blue, and the one behind the girl is red. The two stop. The girl’s expression changes, and she glares at him fiercely. This is the shot we get of her in V-Jump. The protagonist then glares at her, too. The girl slowly summons a long, slender sword, and the protagonist also summons a sword.

The Freakin End. >___>

The title logo is shown, along with the words “For Playstation 3 Only”


I think this is all. We'll find out how much I forgot to put in later. ^^;

Dark Vincent
Jan 20 2008, 02:15 AM
Good job Blankie!! ^^ Thanks a lot, let's see how long till we get this trailer :)

BlankChocobo
Jan 20 2008, 02:17 AM
Good job Blankie!! ^^ Thanks a lot, let's see how long till we get this trailer :)

Maybe when the game comes out XD

What I want to know is how long is this trailer!? That's a lotta crap.

Anima
Jan 20 2008, 02:57 AM
O_O woaaaaah.

Sounds nice! Can't wait til we actually get to see the damn thing. >> Come on Square!

XwingsofaresX
Jan 20 2008, 05:27 PM
O_O woaaaaah.

Sounds nice! Can't wait til we actually get to see the damn thing. >> Come on Square!
blank, you are our only hope!^_^
thanks, now i can imagine the events happening from your translations. i wanna see it so BADLY!^_^

Kasn
Jan 20 2008, 05:44 PM
Awesome. Thx alot BlankChocobo for this great summary. I am dying to see it myself. Hope Square will hurry up and I won't have to wait long to see it.
(http://forums.finalfantasy-xiii.net/member.php?u=660)

Kätharina
Jan 20 2008, 05:52 PM
Maybe when the game comes out XD

What I want to know is how long is this trailer!? That's a lotta crap.

Knowing it'll most likely only be 2-3 minutes long. Max
xD
Danmit, all the writing, great job. ;D <33

Anima
Jan 20 2008, 06:19 PM
The two rush at each other. It doesn’t appear to be their first meeting. They have an expression on their faces that says “We meet at last.” Suddenly, coats of arms appear behind the two of them. The one behind the protagonist is blue, and the one behind the girl is red. The two stop. The girl’s expression changes, and she glares at him fiercely. This is the shot we get of her in V-Jump. The protagonist then glares at her, too. The girl slowly summons a long, slender sword, and the protagonist also summons a sword.

The Freakin End. >___>




Ahh don't you just love cliff hangers. xD

Rade
Jan 20 2008, 06:55 PM
Thanks Blank! ^_^

S-r-ex
Jan 20 2008, 07:11 PM
The peace accord bound with his Excellency Verdan
His name is Verdan?

XwingsofaresX
Jan 20 2008, 07:17 PM
[/color][/font][/size]His name is Verdan?


probably not. the prince could be the "next king"

The trailer jumps back to the silver meeting room. The men in black suits sit down at the table, and look at a leader-like man. His hair is short and white-streaked. He is neither thin nor fat. He has a beard that goes around his whole mouth. He speaks to them as if angry.

i think this man here is the current king.^_^

S-r-ex
Jan 20 2008, 07:39 PM
probably not. the prince could be the "next king"His Excellency Verdan? As of now it is the most probable after what we know and what info has been released. We don't know of any other characters that applies to carry the "excellency" title. At least we know that a character is named Verdan...

Rade
Jan 20 2008, 08:43 PM
What title does Excellency refer to? As in, King or Prince or Duke or something.

And didn't Nomura say the radio said the Protagonist's name?

Final
Jan 20 2008, 09:52 PM
Gah!!!! Thankyou!!!! Now my eyes are dead, but it was worth it :D

BlankChocobo
Jan 20 2008, 10:14 PM
probably not. the prince could be the "next king"



i think this man here is the current king.^_^

That's possible. I never thought of that o.o; We don't know who he is but I don't see why he couldn't be. ^__^

What title does Excellency refer to? As in, King or Prince or Duke or something.

And didn't Nomura say the radio said the Protagonist's name?

"His Excellency" is 閣下 (Kakka) in Japanese. It is a ruling title, used for heads of state or diplomatic heads of state, meaning either the ruler of a country or the one who represents the ruler of a country. Non-ruling royalty and other governmental ranks have separate titles. I do not believe that the protagonist is "His Excellency" at the time of the broadcast, but I don't have any real reason or proof~

Lost Thought
Jan 20 2008, 11:31 PM
Wow such a detailed trailer description.I love detailed trailer descriptions.:wub: Thanks Blank for posting this.Free cheers for Blank.Hip hip HOORAH!Hip hip HOORAH!:dance:

BlankChocobo
Jan 20 2008, 11:37 PM
Wow such a detailed trailer description.I love detailed trailer descriptions.:wub: Thanks Blank for posting this.Free cheers for Blank.Hip hip HOORAH!Hip hip HOORAH!:dance:

I got a little... excited. XD; I'm glad some people are reading it through though. After I posted it, I started thinking maybe it was so long and ridiculously detailed that people would get bored and wander off while I went on and on about who was sitting in what seat of the car :lol:

Anima
Jan 21 2008, 01:37 AM
I read the whole thing...like twice. I love details! =D <3

Rade
Jan 21 2008, 04:52 AM
I got a little... excited. XD; I'm glad some people are reading it through though. After I posted it, I started thinking maybe it was so long and ridiculously detailed that people would get bored and wander off while I went on and on about who was sitting in what seat of the car :lol:

Are you kidding? This is the closest thing we have to seeing the trailer for ourselves! Of course we're gonna read the whole thing!

Sundance Kid
Jan 21 2008, 07:25 AM
*huggles Blanky*
You poor soul, I so felt for you just by reading this xD
Thanks alot for this

Lucrecia
Jan 21 2008, 04:10 PM
It's almost like I was waching the trailer just by reading that description. I seriously want to see it now. Thank you Blank!

Passion
Jan 21 2008, 04:36 PM
That was, detailed. ;D

Final
Jan 21 2008, 05:28 PM
^ Yup, it really was :D

Passion
Jan 21 2008, 06:35 PM
^ Ya telin meh! :cookie:

Dark Remnant
Jan 21 2008, 11:31 PM
DISCLAIMER: Wild guesses X-ing.

[/color][/font][/size]His name is Verdan?



I think Verdan sounds a bit too antagonist-ish to be a protagonist's name.

If Nigelheim isn't the city our protagonist is based in then I'm guessing that Verdan would be the ruler of Nigelheim and the soldiers we see trying to attain the last crystal would be his.

I'm also wildly guessing that the female character fighting with our protagonist is somehow connected with Verdan which would explain the reason why she and the protagonist are fighting and why they have different coats of arms appear behind them after they fight. I'd fathom also that the female character and the protagonist have known eachother from childhood, maybe since they first met whilst attending a peace confrence between their respective families' nations or w/e.

Again, wild guesses. :cookie:

BlankChocobo
Jan 21 2008, 11:35 PM
DISCLAIMER: Wild guesses X-ing.



I think Verdan sounds a bit too antagonist-ish to be a protagonist's name.

If Nigelheim isn't the city our protagonist is based in then I'm guessing that Verdan would be the ruler of Nigelheim and the soldiers we see trying to attain the last crystal would be his.

I'm also wildly guessing that the female character fighting with our protagonist is somehow connected with Verdan which would explain the reason why she and the protagonist are fighting and why they have different coats of arms appear behind them after they fight. I'd fathom also that the female character and the protagonist have known eachother from childhood, maybe since they first met whilst attending a peace confrence between their respective families' nations or w/e.

Again, wild guesses. :cookie:

I like the peace conferences idea. Oh diplomatic breakdowns~

I don't think Verdan is the ruler of this Nigelheim place. I think the place was just the treaty signing location.

Dark Remnant
Jan 21 2008, 11:37 PM
I demand to know who Verdan is. :aldo:

BlankChocobo
Jan 21 2008, 11:40 PM
I demand to know who Verdan is. :aldo:

I shall send you a personal message when I find out. :cookie:

Dark Remnant
Jan 21 2008, 11:42 PM
I shall send you a personal message when I find out. :cookie:

fankyoo :aldo:

I seriously doubt it's the protagonist's name.

BlankChocobo
Jan 22 2008, 12:09 AM
fankyoo :aldo:

I seriously doubt it's the protagonist's name.

I'm hoping it's not. None of the Japanese seem to think it is, and they all heard the name. In the whole "Oriveira" discussions, Verdan never came up as a possible name for him. You'd think it would have made more noise if they thought it might be his name, having been the more audible word. >____>;

Rade
Jan 22 2008, 12:16 AM
I don't think he should live in a city called Nigelheim, it's just one letter off being the same as a certain other protagonist's hometown :cunning:

Not to say it shouldn't be in the game, just not his hometown.

And I said it before when it was first mentioned but I like the name Verdan for the protagonist :cookie:

BlankChocobo
Jan 22 2008, 12:19 AM
I don't think he should live in a city called Nigelheim, it's just one letter off being the same as a certain other protagonist's hometown :cunning:

Not to say it shouldn't be in the game, just not his hometown.

And I said it before when it was first mentioned but I like the name Verdan for the protagonist :cookie:

We don't even know if it is in the game, considering how little anybody actually heard of the radio anyway. As far as I know, nobody really agrees on what "Nigelheim" really was in the broadcast. I just left it like that because that's what Kanae heard and it's her report I was translating ^^;

Verdan is okay, I guess >___>; hoping for a cooler sounding name XD Maybe it would grow on me though...

OHH~EMM~GEE
Jan 22 2008, 01:28 AM
WOW!! This and the scans really feels like I'm watching the trailer!! GOOD JOB BLANKIE!! U rox!!!!:dance: *Givs Cookie for the AWESOME job* :cookie: I think Verdan sounds like a better name compared to "Storm" IMO :P

BlankChocobo
Jan 22 2008, 02:38 AM
WOW!! This and the scans really feels like I'm watching the trailer!! GOOD JOB BLANKIE!! U rox!!!!:dance: *Givs Cookie for the AWESOME job* :cookie: I think Verdan sounds like a better name compared to "Storm" IMO :P


Thankies XD

Awww.. I liked the "rainy" motif Square had going~ Storm wouldn't be very realistic though. I think that's why Lightning had to get the rain name XD

Dark Remnant
Jan 22 2008, 04:45 PM
Somnus > Verdan. :cookie:

Storm is too plain; it has an obvious meaning.

Cilvia
Jan 22 2008, 05:20 PM
Versus imba name for him,i used to it so much!
and about nigelheim..horrible, square has lost heir fantasy, they've just change one letter in Nibelheim (FF7) ....

Existence Proof
Jan 26 2008, 11:38 AM
I'll make a guess and say that...

"Verdan" is the prince's father.....mwa..ha...ha....

Sundance Kid
Jan 26 2008, 11:43 AM
Isn't it a bit odd we know more (a tiny bit) more about about the girl then the guy? >_>

pupucachi
Jan 26 2008, 02:15 PM
Hope Verdan is not his name (xx).Anyway, really nice blanky! :D
I wonder how long the trailer will take. Hmn, may be 2:30 - 3:30 mins. It should be long to show all of these things :D

Kurai Warrior
Jan 29 2008, 02:48 AM
The Leader mafia guy, looks like he could be Storm's father XD thats just a guess
I wonder why the girl is so pissed off at storm though.... seriously.... PMS maybe?
I also hope that Verdan is not Storm/protagonist's actual confirmed name... it just doesn't sound cool enough for him XD

I just want to see the trailer! don't get me wrong this summary was great but it makes me want to see the real thing even more

ShadowMagnet
Jan 29 2008, 10:53 PM
Wow, thanks a lot for detailed script! <3

!!! I.WANT.TO.SEE.THIS.TRAILER !!!

SE, please? Huh?

.

As to names: I also think Verdan (if it actually is Verdan) is that frown/angry man`s name. I also think that he could be protagonist`s father (like him being a king and his son/protagonist is his heir), `cos it was stated that protagonist is the heir and not a king.

I also think that the blonde girl is his sister. Just compare their pictures, they both have notably similar profiles (same noses, no doubt).
And as I`ve already said in another post, I think that the protagonist would have to fight against his own family. Maybe he was banished or something for some reason (which has something to do with the last Crystal)...

Anima
Jan 29 2008, 10:58 PM
Wow, thanks a lot for detailed script! <3

!!! I.WANT.TO.SEE.THIS.TRAILER !!!

SE, please? Huh?

.

As to names: I also think Verdan (if it actually is Verdan) is that frown/angry man`s name. I also think that he could be protagonist`s father (like him being a king and his son/protagonist is his heir), `cos it was stated that protagonist is the heir and not a king.

I also think that the blonde girl is his sister. Just compare their pictures, they both have notably similar profiles (same noses, no doubt).
And as I`ve already said in another post, I think that the protagonist would have to fight against his own family. Maybe he was banished or something for some reason (which has something to do with the last Crystal)...




Hmm fighting against his family...I like that idea. =D

Kurai Warrior
Jan 30 2008, 02:36 AM
that would deffinitely make it more depressing, so the theory is that the blonde is his sister (although it is very possible that she is in another family) and the mafia leader is his father. If this turns out to be true, than that would be interesting, I can see how the protagonists having to face his family members could turn tragic. Although I really hate tragedies, they make me extra sad :[
Guess we'll have to wait to find out

604x
Jan 30 2008, 06:02 AM
this is wat i found for verdan on dictionary.com VERDAN (http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?Acronym=VERDAN&p=dict): in Acronym Finder

FFVersusXIII
Feb 06 2008, 07:32 PM
Ok, thanks for the translations they're really great, but hasn't anyone noticed that in the trailer it describes the Prince and the girl summoning the crests behind them? And they summon weapons? Well, then you know those screenshots that were supposed to be realtime graphics. They're not, they're straight from the trailer and have nothing to do with the actuall gameplay.

We didn't even get official comformation that these were real graphics of the game from Square Enix anyway. Can one of the moderators put this on the site and make sure the news is spread or something? I don't wanna make anyone sad because this really has made me sad, just when I thought development of the game might actually have been getting somewhere! :(

BlankChocobo
Feb 06 2008, 07:51 PM
Ok, thanks for the translations they're really great, but hasn't anyone noticed that in the trailer it describes the Prince and the girl summoning the crests behind them? And they summon weapons? Well, then you know those screenshots that were supposed to be realtime graphics. They're not, they're straight from the trailer and have nothing to do with the actuall gameplay.

We didn't even get official comformation that these were real graphics of the game from Square Enix anyway. Can one of the moderators put this on the site and make sure the news is spread or something? I don't wanna make anyone sad because this really has made me sad, just when I thought development of the game might actually have been getting somewhere! :(

I don't think they were ever said to be realtime by anyone reputable ~_~; I looked and looked and never found a source or anyone who even said they could cite one. Same with the Pulse shot from FFXIII. I think someone just suggested that they might be based on how the pictures looked, and someone else read it and took it to be fact. People don't seem to read very carefully. *recalls Nomura-says-FFXIII-is-coming-out-in-2008 fiasco* :P

To be fair, I never saw anything that said they were cutscene, either. I guess it's still technically possible that those are realtime, although I don't know why people grabbed on those particular images to call realtime instead of any other screenshot we were shown. I wonder if Kanae would be able to clear up whether or not she thought the graphics looked different at that scene. She didn't mention anything about it, though. I'll ask and see~

FFVersusXIII
Feb 06 2008, 11:28 PM
Thats exactly what i did to! i looked for some comformation but Square Enix had never said anything about it being realtime! Its probably going to be months or even years before we see anything thats not pre rendered. Besides wasn't FFVXIII like only 1.3% through development?:(

Pulse
Feb 06 2008, 11:36 PM
If i recall correctly, the trailer that was shown where they firstly summoned the crest was at jump festa, no one has actually said whether or not these shots were taken directly from the trailer. Many of the images we have been provided with have not been in trailers we have seen. We shall just have to wait and see, at the moment its specualtion about the fact they might be real time, so i dont actually understand why you are 'sad'. Most of the information on this site is speculation or assumption based on what little or no information we have on the games. People just dont read correctly.

Josh x

Endless
Feb 27 2008, 05:21 AM
Time just can't go any faster. (>.<) Just reading that whole translation/summary makes me want to hit something so badly. I want to see the trailer so badly now!

SirBaron
Feb 27 2008, 10:33 AM
Totally awesomest translation.

Cioccolata?
Mar 15 2008, 08:13 PM
The Leader mafia guy, looks like he could be Storm's father XD thats just a guess


http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb141/omgfluffypandas/asdasdfasf/adadasd.jpg

They kind of look like they have the same nose (I think it might just be me though), plus they both have the same eye color at one point; you may be right. And yeah, thanks for the description, Blank. ^_^ It was really detailed, which is awesome.

OmiVersusXIV
Mar 15 2008, 11:37 PM
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb141/omgfluffypandas/asdasdfasf/adadasd.jpg

They kind of look like they have the same nose (I think it might just be me though), plus they both have the same eye color at one point; you may be right. And yeah, thanks for the description, Blank. ^_^ It was really detailed, which is awesome.


well they dnt look that alike to me, besides the eyes dont look the same, his is dark red and the old man's eyes look orange and plus the main character eyes could change color so he looks related to almost any character.

steeld
Mar 16 2008, 02:33 PM
uhmm
"The peace accord bound with his Excellency Verdan(ヴェルダンVe-ru-da-n) at Nigelheim (ニグルハイム Ni-gu-ru-ha-i-mu)…the reopening negotiations regarding the future peaceful use of our nation’s crystal…Everyone is hoping for the end of this cold war state. And then also, the next king’s…”
doesnt it now say that Verdan is the current king? I assume this because of the last line "the next king's" so i assume the next king is the Prince, and his father is Verdan....

Naunen
Mar 16 2008, 11:09 PM
uhmm
"The peace accord bound with his Excellency Verdan(ヴェルダンVe-ru-da-n) at Nigelheim (ニグルハイム Ni-gu-ru-ha-i-mu)…the reopening negotiations regarding the future peaceful use of our nation’s crystal…Everyone is hoping for the end of this cold war state. And then also, the next king’s…”
doesnt it now say that Verdan is the current king? I assume this because of the last line "the next king's" so i assume the next king is the Prince, and his father is Verdan....

----Of course that would mean that his father is the king since the Prince is as we all know, well, the prince. But we don't know much about that pinstriped guy. o.o Except that he has amber eyes.

@OmiVersusXIV: Since when does eye colour mean a total relation to someone? It may change colour but what is his real eye colour? Who cares if they don't look alike? In FFVIII, Squall looked more like Raine but we don't see her except in the ending to even know. And firsthand, we didn't even know Laguna's his dad because it was difficult even seeing the similarities and we probably thought there was no familial similarities.

pupucachi
Mar 17 2008, 08:36 AM
That man can't be his father. The Prince is the last heir of his family, and the next king. It's possible that his father passed away. And one more thing, if he is really his father, the how can he be the leader of the mafia?

AT23
Mar 17 2008, 08:42 AM
I believe it was stated that they live in a mafia-*like* society/world, and gangs/mafia/yakuza can have kings/leaders too. When you think about it, the medival times were pretty much rivaling gangs and mafia kingdoms.

pupucachi
Mar 17 2008, 08:48 AM
So... can the Prince be the Leader's son? I doubt that...Hey, it could be possible :D
A prince lives in a mafia world :D

AT23
Mar 17 2008, 08:52 AM
That would makes things very interesting :D

pupucachi
Mar 17 2008, 08:55 AM
It will be interesting... if Nomura thinks about it :|

Cilvia
Mar 17 2008, 02:58 PM
If the Prince is part of mafia family, i can really imagine his voice xD

OmiVersusXIV
Mar 17 2008, 07:29 PM
That man can't be his father. The Prince is the last heir of his family, and the next king. It's possible that his father passed away. And one more thing, if he is really his father, the how can he be the leader of the mafia?

I know Im thinking the same thing but maybe the old guy is his uncle or someone pretty close.

pupucachi
Mar 18 2008, 07:28 AM
The old man isnt a good person to me. If your theory is true, then we have a wicked uncle wants to take Prince's power. Maybe the man and the Prince's father didnt have a good relationship in the past. We know that the Prince will become the king in the future, not now. It'll be a good chance for the old man to get revenge... I just say what I'm thinking, so dont blame me :D

Misschoco
Mar 18 2008, 09:40 PM
That man can't be his father. The Prince is the last heir of his family, and the next king. It's possible that his father passed away. And one more thing, if he is really his father, the how can he be the leader of the mafia?
By last in line his father can still be alive but its just that there is no one after the prince to take over meaning his the only one left-Gah! Im not making sense.Anyways Maybe its not a mafia in literal terms.If he cant be the leader of the 'mafia' then expand on why?

pupucachi
Mar 19 2008, 05:11 AM
Yeah, maybe they're not mafia, they're just the men in black. But I do believe that they have enough power to control the kingdom.The old man can be the leader, but he can't be the king at the same time. It's just... not right... :D.He doesnt look like a king.

OmiVersusXIV
Mar 19 2008, 05:16 AM
Yeah, maybe they're not mafia, they're just the men in black. But I do believe that they have enough power to control the kingdom.The old man can be the leader, but he can't be the king at the same time. It's just... not right... :D.He doesnt look like a king.

Yeah kinda looks like a really rich bussiness man who is head of a mafia type organization.

Jesse Khaos
Mar 22 2008, 09:00 AM
Wow. I really can't wait to watch this.
But something tells me that it's only going to lead to more questions and speculation.
I really want to know what's going on with the girl and the protag.

Terros
Mar 25 2008, 12:51 AM
Well when they say king they could mean like in the days of Prohibition when the mafia gangsters more or less ruled the cities with political machines...just some food for thought.

Mad Hatter
Mar 26 2008, 09:35 PM
The girl's sword looks like Musketeers' sword. Maybe that indicates her job/status as well.
Perhaps, she was used to be one of the Musketeers who protects the Royal family. Maybe she betrayed them or something happened that made she hate the Prince so much.

OmiVersusXIV
Mar 27 2008, 02:48 AM
The girl's sword looks like Musketeers' sword. Maybe that indicates her job/status as well.
Perhaps, she was used to be one of the Musketeers who protects the Royal family. Maybe she betrayed them or something happened that made she hate the Prince so much.

Thats not such a bad idea.