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ukillwegrill
Dec 24 2007, 04:33 PM
Who do u thinks toughest and why.

I would lean towards lightning as her world seems more futaristic plus she defys gravity.

Although the dark haired lad is pretty badass and wouldnt go without a fight

Rade
Dec 24 2007, 04:48 PM
V can teleport and has a shield of swords :cunning:

And why would her world being more futuristic make her stronger? >.>

ukillwegrill
Dec 24 2007, 04:52 PM
V can teleport and has a shield of swords :cunning:

And why would her world being more futuristic make her stronger? >.>
The technology she can command a sheild of swords isnt going to do much if she starts shooting massive future cannons of doom

Rade
Dec 24 2007, 04:55 PM
Well the bazookas they shoot in the Versus trailer didnt do much.

ukillwegrill
Dec 24 2007, 04:58 PM
Well the bazookas they shoot in the Versus trailer didnt do much.
true but they were pretty primative in lightnings world there huge flying ships and that so certainly they have some sort of wonder gun.
swords are made of metal right

Käthe
Dec 24 2007, 05:01 PM
Who actually cares who would win? These are two different games danmit.

ukillwegrill
Dec 24 2007, 05:02 PM
Who actually cares who would win? These are two different games danmit.
well as i started the thread it would seem i care

Rade
Dec 24 2007, 05:02 PM
Yeah but they don't usually revolve at high speed and materialise out of thin air so I reckon those might be a bit special.

ukillwegrill
Dec 24 2007, 05:04 PM
Yeah but they don't usually revolve at high speed and materialise out of thin air so I reckon those might be a bit special.

They might in her world, heck that could be an everyday occurence
"ahh, look more flying swords, better get the bug spray"

{MegaMan}
Dec 24 2007, 05:06 PM
Tetsuya cunt messed it up!

Rade
Dec 24 2007, 05:07 PM
Tetsuya cunt messed it up!

Excuse me?

ukillwegrill
Dec 24 2007, 05:08 PM
Excuse me?
yeah about that

Whiplash
Dec 24 2007, 05:59 PM
Don't forget Versus has an army of fangirls to help him.

Anima
Dec 24 2007, 06:02 PM
Badass Emo boy FTW! >D

Maiya
Dec 24 2007, 09:29 PM
I'm on Versus' guy on this one. Lightnings great and all, heck I love her, but I think Versus would win all the way. So far, (from what has been showed) Lightning needs weapons and bombs to carry out her attacks. Besides that one instance were she uses a fire attack. She's strong and she's pretty flexible, but Versus can teleport whenever he wants to it seems.

He has those shields, as mentioned by Rade, that deflected missles at the last second and he wasn't scratched. Haven't seen Lightning do half as much, still think she's awesome though. Yeah, Lightnings world does seem more advanced, but I don't think it has anything to do with power. I mean I know there are times where it's more based on the person than the type of world they live in.

Sundance Kid
Dec 24 2007, 09:32 PM
Fan Girls. FTW

I would say a tie for me, I don't have to much favoritism for characters we don't know to much about

Alice
Dec 25 2007, 03:43 AM
Fan Girls. FTW

I would say a tie for me, I don't have to much favoritism for characters we don't know to much about

I'll second that opinion for now(especially the fangirls part! XD). Wait to see what we find out about these two characters first, then I'll answer.

Spinel
Dec 25 2007, 09:05 AM
I guess maybe they're draw. This is my opinion about everything I know this far....

Talking about speed, I guess they have the same speed.
Both of them have plus and minus...

Looking at Lightning, she could defy gravity and controlling it. She has bombs and could do magics. She's flexible and I guess she master samurai's swords skill, looking at the way she holds her blade.
but looking at Versus, he could teleporting, has unbreakable guard and skilled at martial arts (looking how he breaks someones head.....)

yeah, it's my opinion. Like Maiya Saiyado said, it makes difference between those worlds and how do they use their magic.

vamira2.1
Jan 01 2008, 11:59 PM
It's really hard to choose my cousin said that because Versus has that girl, shotgun guy, scarface guy, and driver guy. But I kept on arguing telling him that it doesn't matter. But it's too hard to choose but if I saw the fight going on for real I would chose Lighting.:D

Dark Slayer
Jan 02 2008, 12:20 AM
Isn't this thread a bit too early because we have yet to see what they can really do. Its impossible for me to think who will win because Lightning can defy gravity and control time but the guy from versus can teleport and has a lot of weapons surrounding him making him almost invulnerable to any attack.

007vader
Jan 02 2008, 12:29 AM
This is interesting. I'm actually hoping to someday make my own CG video of a fight between Lightning and the guy from Versus. I'm planning on getting a program for it in January. The way I envision it it'll be an amazing fight but who knows. The way I was gonna do it though neither ends up winning in the end. I can't tell you the ending though since it's kind of a surprise.

So if I ever make it you'll be able to get an idea how it might look.

vamira2.1
Jan 02 2008, 01:04 AM
What is the program called ?

Dark Slayer
Jan 03 2008, 12:10 PM
This is interesting. I'm actually hoping to someday make my own CG video of a fight between Lightning and the guy from Versus. I'm planning on getting a program for it in January. The way I envision it it'll be an amazing fight but who knows. The way I was gonna do it though neither ends up winning in the end. I can't tell you the ending though since it's kind of a surprise.

So if I ever make it you'll be able to get an idea how it might look.Hey when you're done can you like embed it here? This is gonna cool man. Include summons if there are!!!

Misschoco
Jan 04 2008, 05:24 PM
i would say the're on an equal footing-we've yet too see the full extent of their abilities..i'd also like to scrutinize this threads title-HE IS NOT BLOODY EMO :)

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jan 05 2008, 03:17 PM
I say Versus main character (not because I'm a fangirl or anything :rolleyes:) but he can create shields and summon weapons without even moving :ohmy:

And I agree with Misschoco, he's not emo :(

xThexNewxPrincex
Jan 05 2008, 03:23 PM
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj199/Bamfateer3/ffXIII.jpg
Hmm.. I think it would be that little squirrel that you can see for a split second in the XIII trailer :D. He looks like he could own just about anybody :D

XwingsofaresX
Jan 05 2008, 04:21 PM
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj199/Bamfateer3/ffXIII.jpg
Hmm.. I think it would be that little squirrel that you can see for a split second in the XIII trailer :D. He looks like he could own just about anybody :D
haha, righteous!!! randomness...rules!!!!
i would say Versus guy (i dont say emo lad for reasons) because hes cool.^_^

ukillwegrill
Jan 05 2008, 06:06 PM
haha, righteous!!! randomness...rules!!!!
i would say Versus guy (i dont say emo lad for reasons) because hes cool.^_^
Im not saying Emo's arent cool (sort of in a weird way)
But come on this lads like 16 Lighning would destroy him, even with his mad sheilds of doom
He/She who controls gravity wins

Dark Slayer
Jan 06 2008, 08:06 AM
Im not saying Emo's arent cool (sort of in a weird way)
But come on this lads like 16 Lighning would destroy him, even with his mad sheilds of doom
He/She who controls gravity winsNot sure about that because he can still move his swords around to protect him or even teleport. Lightning can use her overclock mode but only for a limited amount of time.

ukillwegrill
Jan 06 2008, 12:22 PM
Not sure about that because he can still move his swords around to protect him or even teleport. Lightning can use her overclock mode but only for a limited amount of time.
It will only take her like 4 seconds to Kick him in the crackers

Blu Ray Disc
Jan 06 2008, 10:09 PM
Wanna know the differences in styles in Asia and the U.S.? (maybe Europe too. I wouldn't know too much about Europe)
In Asian countries, the "emo" look aka: black and white with long hair, is considered very cool. Wheras in the US we'd point fingers and say bad things to emo kids.
That's simply a difference in culture. So, here in America (if you're american that is), Mr. Versus has been getting lots of pointed fingers and hate remarks by lots of people, when in Asian countries, everyone has been saying, "OMG. Mr. Versus is so cool!"
Of course, I'm not saying that everyone in the US hates Mr. Versus. Lots of people like him too. I'm just trying to explain differences in culture.

As for me, I'd think that Lightning would win, but just barely. Mr. Versus would probably hack her up real good before she actually gets to Overclock mode, and kicks his uh, "crackers."

ukillwegrill
Jan 07 2008, 02:02 AM
Wanna know the differences in styles in Asia and the U.S.? (maybe Europe too. I wouldn't know too much about Europe)
In Asian countries, the "emo" look aka: black and white with long hair, is considered very cool. Wheras in the US we'd point fingers and say bad things to emo kids.
That's simply a difference in culture. So, here in America (if you're american that is), Mr. Versus has been getting lots of pointed fingers and hate remarks by lots of people, when in Asian countries, everyone has been saying, "OMG. Mr. Versus is so cool!"
Of course, I'm not saying that everyone in the US hates Mr. Versus. Lots of people like him too. I'm just trying to explain differences in culture.

As for me, I'd think that Lightning would win, but just barely. Mr. Versus would probably hack her up real good before she actually gets to Overclock mode, and kicks his uh, "crackers."


In Europe we dislike the Emo look, as their all unsociable and actually scary, cutters
However i know that ur right and that Japs find their look cool as i have bin their and seen many Emo looking kids (whom i ignored)
Still Lightning would kick him in the aforementioned (by me) Crackers

LiOn
Jan 07 2008, 12:46 PM
Hmm I don't think Lightning can control or defy gravity in any way. She does big jumps ad stuff...nothing really knew in FF series right? lol;) Due the overlock mode, when she become really quick, we can say she can control time in some short of way. (but not gravity...she does not fly or levitate for hours or even minutes.. lol)
Yes, she has sword-gun and some bombs, uses fire to kick-ass, has the time-ability, and she does big jumps...and that's it.
In other hand, Versus guy has a sword, a gun, lots of swords that work as a shield in every way possible, and he can teleport himself.
Now.. who's the strongest? Let's see..while lightning does all that tricks to deal off with some soldiers (boms, jumps, magic, overlock), Versus guy just defend himself with that shield and cut them into pieces:P And did you noticed the cannon they shot at him? not even a scratch :lol:
I love lightning, i do^_^, but versus win this round in my opinion.

ukillwegrill
Jan 07 2008, 01:47 PM
Hmm I don't think Lightning can control or defy gravity in any way. She does big jumps ad stuff...nothing really knew in FF series right? lol;) Due the overlock mode, when she become really quick, we can say she can control time in some short of way. (but not gravity...she does not fly or levitate for hours or even minutes.. lol)
Yes, she has sword-gun and some bombs, uses fire to kick-ass, has the time-ability, and she does big jumps...and that's it.
In other hand, Versus guy has a sword, a gun, lots of swords that work as a shield in every way possible, and he can teleport himself.
Now.. who's the strongest? Let's see..while lightning does all that tricks to deal off with some soldiers (boms, jumps, magic, overlock), Versus guy just defend himself with that shield and cut them into pieces:P And did you noticed the cannon they shot at him? not even a scratch :lol:
I love lightning, i do^_^, but versus win this round in my opinion.

It as been confirmed that lightning can control gravity for limited amounts of time(look at my sic she floating for like 30seconds)
Plus the versus kids an emo, emos are afraid of girls duhh:rolleyes:

Misschoco
Jan 07 2008, 02:08 PM
Plus the versus kids an emo, emos are afraid of girls duhh:rolleyes:
*stares intently at ukillwegrill*-when you show me a pic of him sliting himself then you can talk <_<

plus to lion-lightning can control gravity for a limited time-its already been confirmed

ukillwegrill
Jan 07 2008, 02:14 PM
*stares intently at ukillwegrill*-when you show me a pic of him sliting himself then you can talk <_<

plus to lion-lightning can control gravity for a limited time-its already been confirmed
You honestly think he has all them weapons for protection?:lol:

Thimien
Jan 08 2008, 09:15 AM
You guys are saying she has more futuristic weapons and no what... but hey both in same world, and il presume same time, mainly for the reason that he looks like his in middle of this big city and he has a car, the starting on the trailer, he looks to be in a futuristic world, but its so dark that, you kind of think.

Id think in a batle maybe he would win, he seams to be a bit more agrecive then her... and that teleporting stuff seams a bit crasy.

Do you think their storys will cross at some point?

ukillwegrill
Jan 08 2008, 01:30 PM
You guys are saying she has more futuristic weapons and no what... but hey both in same world, and il presume same time, mainly for the reason that he looks like his in middle of this big city and he has a car, the starting on the trailer, he looks to be in a futuristic world, but its so dark that, you kind of think.

Id think in a batle maybe he would win, he seams to be a bit more agrecive then her... and that teleporting stuff seams a bit crasy.

Do you think their storys will cross at some point?
Their not in the same world the nova crystallis games are based in the same universe (meaning just centred around the same things crystals)
In lightnings world u see huge things flying through the air at great speeds lpus its a city suspended in the air
I would say the versus world is more like the one we live in today

Thimien
Jan 08 2008, 02:14 PM
ohh ok.. just dont make sence to me then.
The FF7 Compilation is about one story over a period on years, this one is compilation in same universe, they are both called FF13, so i have to see the connection betwin both storys, they sort of have to be ina near time zone... I know Square dont mess up like that, but hard to imagine a connection at this point.

Misschoco
Jan 08 2008, 10:15 PM
ohh ok.. just dont make sence to me then.
The FF7 Compilation is about one story over a period on years, this one is compilation in same universe, they are both called FF13, so i have to see the connection betwin both storys, they sort of have to be ina near time zone... I know Square dont mess up like that, but hard to imagine a connection at this point.
the only connection is the mythology of the crystals-their paths crossing in physical terms i.e they meet face to face-not a chance their worlds are apart :rolleyes:

Agent Dunham
Jan 09 2008, 01:34 AM
Everyone knows that "Emo lad with lots of swords" is only getting votes because of the number of crazed fangirls. This is why I don't get heterosexuality, the females always choose the pretty men with a fancy ability over the pretty woman with the practical ability.

... So to counter the rabid straight fangirls, I choose you, Lightning! *Tosses Pokeball*

Even if Lightning can't beat him through standard means, there's always plan B. Kick him in crotch and run! What are you waiting for?! The crotch! THE CROTCH!

Sundance Kid
Jan 09 2008, 03:23 AM
lol@ pokeball toss xD

Yes another Lightning fan *high 5s Shuyu*

I choose Barak (Hebrew/Biblical for Lighting) <3

Vidya
Jan 09 2008, 05:05 AM
If I remember correctly, there was a trailer shown at some event that we at large have not seen yet. It has Versus Guy against an opponent in a white cloak. Anyways, Versus Guy was having trouble fighting against the opponent. Which suggests to me that there is a way to beat him. And whatever the white cloaked person was doing, it was working. So I think Versus Guy does have a weakness, of course, and while Versus Guy has a flashy style, and a pretty useful one at that, we also have to consider that Lightning is equally badass.

She can control gravity. She has the gunblade, and switches through a gun and blade without hesitation. If you also didn't notice in the trailer, she took on what seemed to be a whole army in that tunnel thing by herself, including several monsters. Versus Guy took on an army himself, so they are pretty much equally matched.

I think with the gravity Lightning would be able to get past Versus Guy's defenses with his weapons, and thus win the battle. But I also think that it would be a very long, drawn out battle.

Lightning. But it'd be close.

Draperc
Feb 22 2008, 12:14 AM
Lightning and "Not-as-emo-as-we-thought" lad, tough choice to be honest, but I'd have to say Lightning due to the whole "I can click my fingers together and control gravity" thing.

AT23
Feb 22 2008, 04:06 AM
Each wins at their own game, and like others have said I'd say a tie... although I like the game concept and environment of Versus more than XIII, I'd have to say Lightning does look like she can hold her own fights and pull a few tricks out of her little pouches.

As for whoever mentioned "getting a program" to make your own animation of pitting Lightning vs Prince, good luck. I'm not sure if you meant it as a singular program or you forgot the to make the word a plural form, but I hope you know it takes more than one program to make even 1 second of an actual FMV scene from FFXIII/VersusXIII, or taking FFVII:AC as a reference. I'll run you a list of some of the things you'll need: Lots of money. Unless you're "you-know-what"ing the programs, it'll cost you lots and lots of money. And let's look at the types of programs you'll need... the most common guess people will come up with is a 3D program (duh), followed by any image editting program like Adobe photoshop. Autodesk's 3DS max works quite well, any skilled 3D artist can and will beat someone who uses Autodesk's recently acquired Maya program (the program the SE uses a lot from the days of FFVII or FFVIII, forgot which... also it used to be manufactured and produced under a different company before it was bought by Autodesk).

Of course, like most normal people who just plays and whines about how a game could be better or throws the word emo so loosely, 3D is probably the biggest and only thing they'd consider that'd be used to make a game scene or CGI movie, which is not so far from the truth but there are other aspects as well. For example, yeah, you do use image editors like photoshop to edit and tweak some reference pictures to make whatever textures you'd need for say a character, or a building or weapon, like skin, cloth, hair, bricks, concrete, the sword's blade, the sword's grip/handle, etc. etc.. You'll also have to be very skilled at animating the characters, which means not just moving limbs and bodies around but facial expressions, battle damage, utilizing cloth physics, etc again. Are you even familiar with lighting the scene and making sure it plays correctly over a surface, like a character's arm? do you know what rendering is? Were you aware that to obtain some if not all special effects and motion graphics, a program called Shake, exclusive only to the apple macintosh computers was used to help create Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children? Do you know shadow/baking techniques? Do you understand that attempting to make even a 10 second animation requires at least a small team of people and is by all means no solo work? You could do it solo, if you're super-skilled and got 10 years to burn. By then the next 10 better versions of the programs you started with will be available, some of them possibly but not 100% backwards compatible and vice versa... but you probably see what I'm getting at by now. I doubt you can make anything near 10% of what the trailers show from XIII or Versus XIII now. It requires professional work and hours on end to make things seem "smooth" or "natural". So unless you've got the skill and team to back it up, I wouldn't lightly say you "are going to get a program and make an animation of Lightning fighting Prince".

However, if you are still interested in learning about animation, there are lots of resources available in forms of books or even online tutorial vids if you look in the right places. A good starting program, although it's not in 3D, might be macromedia flash for you since it's a user-friendly program and usually people learn the basics of animating on a computer with that program. Also, if you have the time and money, might wanna check out art schools as many offer the whole game design major these days.

TBG07
Mar 10 2008, 01:08 PM
From what I've seen of them so far...they are both over the top. Like they are right out of Advent Children.