View Full Version : What the! PS3 PAL LATE
Enedok
Sep 06 2006, 09:31 AM
PS3 have a blu-ray diode shortage and force sony to bring the PS3 In the PAL arenas late.:nag::nag::nag::nag::nag::nag::nag::nag::'(
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has announced that the release date for PlayStation 3 in PAL territories has been pushed back until March 2007.
US and japan will not change date and still have a PS3 in november.
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=67341
Unknown Kaze
Sep 06 2006, 09:53 AM
Now that is piss taking to the EXTREME!!!!! >_<
Enedok
Sep 06 2006, 02:40 PM
If anyone have something to tell sony...
E-mail them, I do!
Service@de.playstation.com
As I, and many others from the PAL arena, feel disappointed/angry/frustrated/annoyed/sad for the extra 14-18 weeks delay of the PS3. I was in the class today when people found out of this. About one third of it wildly discuss about it, with expected expressions "Always us" "Typical Sony" "I can install that blu-ray part myself later" and an unexpected loud slam at a keyboard.
As you know, this will affect your sales in the EU and give two certain known companies a Christmas gift in a million euro class.
Japan: 23.55, Europe: 39.71, USA: 42.97, (millions PS2 sold)
Is it really that big difference between EU and USA sales?
What I see is that EU€599 is worth much more then US$599. So how come? If you sell your PS3 at a higher price in EU in the beginning you earn more. Are you afraid that the PS3 won't be accepted as a computer, but as a gaming console and then get more tax? Wrong, now with a network, graphic card, hard drive and Linux included in every package you have a computer, more a computer then the normal computer 6 years ago. It can't be denied.
You hyped this up with a world wide launch.
You have one thing left to do, share what you got with everybody. Just like your mother told you.
Nero_
Sep 06 2006, 03:52 PM
Fucking predicable.
Kitmitsu
Sep 06 2006, 04:43 PM
Fucking predicable.
Nicely summed up but type a little more.
Personally this is the most annoyed i've been for a while. I actually heard the news on the radio in an interview with Gamespot which was weird...especially as i never listen to the radio :blink:. They should have anticipated a shortage I mean do they not double check things? I had respected Sony for being a pretty good company before but this just shows how unreliable they are.
Not that it matters but out of interest why would Sony just decide to delay the Europe, Russia, the Middle East, Africa, and Australasia launch. I dont understand why American and Japan are more deserving. It just feels like we've been left behind again. Fair enough that America and Japan are big money but this happens to us too much...even European games end up being released in America before here for some reason. Sorry for this rant :P I'm just angered by some of the posts on other forums with Americans laughing at us...its pathetic.
I had thought this was gonna happen before they announced the Worldwide release so i thought about importing a PS3 before. I think it should work if i do import one but i'm not entirely sure on online features and the tax on it would be incredible.
In conclusion I shouldnt get some annoyed by having to wait longer for a piece of plastic but i am and Sony should really think about their customer relations outside Japan. (though they did send me a free slim PS2 when my 5 year old one broke)
P.S. Nice email GHenrik :P I should have a go.
The Joy
Sep 06 2006, 07:04 PM
Call them piss lips, but don't tell them i told you to say it :crazy:
- Bastard man
Kitmitsu
Sep 06 2006, 07:14 PM
Call them piss lips, but don't tell them i told you to say it :crazy:
- Bastard man
Wow...thanks for your intelectual answer.
*Warns* :rolleyes:
Stay on topic fool! and dont dare me to warn you on MSN...
IstvanKovacs
Sep 06 2006, 07:27 PM
its one of those things where, you know its going to happen and you start to prepare for it so as to lessen the shock, but then you think....No they wouldn't screw up release dates again, and so you get comfortable with the current release date and think hellz yeah biznitch I'ma be buying one of those mo-fo's when they come out.
then comes the shock.
sony turns around and says "NO you can't have one for another quarter of a year, yeah thats right you heard me. four goddam months"
they then preced to batter you over the head with a big stick
at least thats ho it seems to me.
the rest of you may have a completely different opinion:crazy:
Nero_
Sep 06 2006, 07:33 PM
Call them piss lips, but don't tell them i told you to say it :crazy:
- Bastard man
Manspider says that, you dumbass. :nag:
Anyways, wasnt this ded serias predictable? I mean, Europe get everything late, why should the PS3 be any different. -.- Thats a pretty poor excuse too.
Enedok
Sep 06 2006, 08:07 PM
Oboyoboyoboy, this get even better.
Only 500,000 PS3 at launch. 100,000 to jap 400,000 to US.
No preordesrs can save anyone now. Unless you where the abselutly first one.
http://ps3.qj.net/500-000-Units-Total-For-The-PS3-Launch-Sigh-/pg/49/aid/64841
Kitmitsu
Sep 06 2006, 08:48 PM
*Left ventricle bursts*
All hope is lost :'( WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO US! :'(
They truley havent learnt anything. No diode shortage is an excuse for this...its poor planning and business practice.
Now to take Ken Kutaragi out back and take care of him *loads the shotgun*
Enedok
Sep 06 2006, 10:05 PM
Well, I am afraid that I will order a Wii instead while I wait. I wanted to be a PSWii fan, but it seems like I will wait some time before I buy a ps3 even after march. I might buy it in the summer. Of if Wii is good, maybe never. So what’s the point to be in a forum for a game that is for the PS3? Maybe I should stay here for FF Agito XIII? O yes, I will be the first forum member to be excited for Agito. I will change it right away.^_^
And if I suddenly leave and never come back, don’t blame me, blame Sony, while I will praise Mario or some of his friends.
Nero_
Sep 06 2006, 10:28 PM
you'd really leave because they delayed the PS3? O_o
Kadaj
Sep 06 2006, 10:38 PM
Well, I am afraid that I will order a Wii instead while I wait. I wanted to be a PSWii fan, but it seems like I will wait some time before I buy a ps3 even after march. I might buy it in the summer. Of if Wii is good, maybe never. So what’s the point to be in a forum for a game that is for the PS3? Maybe I should stay here for FF Agito XIII? O yes, I will be the first forum member to be excited for Agito. I will change it right away.^_^
And if I suddenly leave and never come back, don’t blame me, blame Sony, while I will praise Mario or some of his friends.
Whoa, Jesus. Talk about over reacting. The PS3 is delayed 3 months and youre going to leave a forum o_O that doesnt even make sense.
Enedok
Sep 06 2006, 10:59 PM
Whoa, Jesus. Talk about over reacting. The PS3 is delayed 3 months and youre going to leave a forum o_O that doesnt even make sense.
4 months, if we take it from the middle of november to the middle of march. No,I'm not leaving, but I'm only pisst off a bit. But I might really consider to get a Wii and delay the PS3 more.
Unknown Kaze
Sep 06 2006, 11:33 PM
I hate Sony for what they are doing but i WILL persevere with the PS3 for the one reson that FFXIII and MGS will to be on it....
IstvanKovacs
Sep 06 2006, 11:36 PM
I think I'll get a wii to pass the time until the p3 finally comes out and the price goes down, but I'm halfway expecting the Wii to turn up and pwn the ps3 back into non existence.
I just hope I'm right:D
Kitmitsu
Sep 07 2006, 12:06 AM
I think i can wait 4 months for it. I have to say there isnt much difference in the consoles except the games on some of them and the price :P. I think the PS3 would be a better investment for the future as many game developers seem to stick with Sony though some are moving over to the 360 because of delays.
Anyway i have a Plan B on how to get a PS3. We should forcefully take whats rightly ours!
http://re-try.com/pics/SonyHQ.jpg
Enedok
Sep 07 2006, 12:43 PM
I am with you Kitmitsu.
I got a very nice respond in german From Sony. I got suggested that I should use that e-mail. Maby EU HQ are in german. The problem is, I dont understand german.:blink:
Original
Sehr geehrter PlayStation Kunde,
vielen Dank für Ihre Email.
Wir können Ihre Frustration ob des späteren Release der PlayStation3 durchaus verstehen. Dieser verschobene Release ensteht dadurch das nicht genug Blue-Laser Dioden verfügbar sind und wir keine mangelhaften Bauteile verwenden möchten. Da die PlayStation3 für Europa das PAL Format unterstützt, Japan und USA jedoch NTSC nutzen, konnten schon einige Einheiten für diese Märkte erstellt werden da hierzu kein weiterer Eingriff notwendig war. Sony weiss um den Stellenwert des EU-Marktes und ist sich bewusst das dies sicherlich auf großes Unverständnis stösst, jedoch möchten wir keine mangelhaften Produkte anbieten. Des weiteren gibt dieser verspätete Release den Herstellern die Möglichkeit am Feinschliff er Spiele zu arbeiten, von denen dann auch zum Release sofort mehr zur Verfügung stehen als es angedacht war.
Vorbestell-Zertifikate behalten natürlich weiterhin ihre Gültigkeit und Sie erhalten die PlayStation3 somit zum angestrebten Release in Europa im März 2007. Sie haben natürlich die Möglichkeit von der Vorbestellung zurückzutreten. Hierzu wenden Sie sich bitte an Ihren Händler wo Sie das Gerät vorbestellt haben und dieser wird die von Ihnen geleistete Vorauszahlung, gegen Vorlage des Vorbestell-Zertifikats, an Sie aushändigen.
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Kitmitsu
Sep 07 2006, 02:17 PM
Well at least they replied :P I can kinda understand the first paragraph but it gets very confusing later on. I tried translating it with Babel Fish and some of it made a little more sense. They seem to apoliguise alot and say that they dont want to release unsatisfactory products. I can kinda understand why they are only releasing the NTSC version now. There are alot of PAL counties and it could get complicated only making them available to some. I still dont forgive them for letting this happen though :P
Also for the news we saw here on TV is now available on the BBC site. Visit http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5319190.stm and click Watch in the top right :)
Aimen
Sep 07 2006, 05:21 PM
I knew something like this would happen. It always does with Sony, the bastids. :cunning:
This sucks for alot of kids, as this was probably the most wanted christmas present, and the parents are most likely f*cked off to the extreme. I know I would be if I was planning on buying one for my kids and then this big delay just turns up. Oh well, at least it's not been pushed back to something like June, because that would really just be taking the cake.
Kitmitsu
Sep 20 2006, 12:12 AM
*Bump!*
Yeah, i'd be pretty mad to if i promised my kid a PS3 and they delayed it but like you say it isnt all bad ^_^
Just read this:
http://uk.gamespot.com/features/6157294/index.html?sid=6157294&tag=topslot;action;1
Five of GameSpot UK's reviewers gave their own reaction to the delay. They all give alot of good point. Sony could give us some sort of compensation for the delay, maybe even a price cut (unlikely). We'll also probably end up with the second model of the PS3 which means there shouldnt be as many bugs in it than the US and Japanese ones. Anyway i bet they wish they used HD-DVD now instead of Blu-Ray:P
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