View Full Version : Anyone ever study with the Jehovah's Witnesses...?
nafeasonto
Aug 26 2010, 02:44 PM
I am asking this because I used to be a witness. I left them for personal reasons, not because of the religion. If you were, may I ask why you are still there or why you left? I am serious about this as well. People have left for many different reasons. I am kind of kicking myself for leaving as I was most happy there. Now I have no religion, I really don't believe in anything at this point. Not as happy I used to be. I just felt everything they taught me made sense.
No hell. AS hell is never mentioned as a place in the bible. Since hell comes form the greek word literally translated "a grave." People are getting mixed up with Gehenna, which many bibles mix up with Hell. Gehenna (Ha! It was in the spell check too.) is a place of complete destruction, meaning your gone forever, no consciousness forever. No torment, but no existence basically.
You don't have a separate soul from your body. As you are just dead, your unconscious. So you don't have to worry about floating all over the place.
In the end your resurrected, with a new life AFTER Armageddon. On a paradise earth. (No death, no war, no disease, no sickness, unlimited food. No worries.)
Just so many good things to look forward to and learn.
God promised the earth would NEVER be DESTROYED.
Why did I quit it, I really don't know anymore. The more I discuss and think to myself, the more I want to go back. There is always something holding me back.
Please guys no preaching, I was just making points on why it attracted me. Not telling ANYONE in this forum they have to believe what I just said.
V.Anaya
Aug 26 2010, 07:51 PM
I am currently studying with the Jehovah's Witnesses and I'm pretty neutral about their teachings. My mother is the one that forces me and pushes me to go to the 'meetings', and give talks. I, honestly, get bored there.
Jehovah has blessed me with many things but somehow I'm just ungrateful. Now they want me to get baptized; I don't really want to go that far.
Nagadick
Aug 26 2010, 09:31 PM
I am asking this because I used to be a witness. I left them for personal reasons, not because of the religion. If you were, may I ask why you are still there or why you left? I am serious about this as well. People have left for many different reasons. I am kind of kicking myself for leaving as I was most happy there. Now I have no religion, I really don't believe in anything at this point. Not as happy I used to be. I just felt everything they taught me made sense.
No hell. AS hell is never mentioned as a place in the bible. Since hell comes form the greek word literally translated "a grave." People are getting mixed up with Gehenna, which many bibles mix up with Hell. Gehenna (Ha! It was in the spell check too.) is a place of complete destruction, meaning your gone forever, no consciousness forever. No torment, but no existence basically.
You don't have a separate soul from your body. As you are just dead, your unconscious. So you don't have to worry about floating all over the place.
In the end your resurrected, with a new life AFTER Armageddon. On a paradise earth. (No death, no war, no disease, no sickness, unlimited food. No worries.)
Just so many good things to look forward to and learn.
God promised the earth would NEVER be DESTROYED.
Why did I quit it, I really don't know anymore. The more I discuss and think to myself, the more I want to go back. There is always something holding me back.
Please guys no preaching, I was just making points on why it attracted me. Not telling ANYONE in this forum they have to believe what I just said.
Well the first problem I see is the fact you have no belief anymore. Now you could go back to the way of life or even back to the church itself but depending on your point of view, you might see that as...dishonest.
Now I have no religion, I really don't believe in anything at this point. Not as happy I used to be. I just felt everything they taught me made sense.
I'm having trouble understanding if you believe or not. On one hand you say you look forward to so many things after death and that it all makes sense to you but on the other you say you have no religion anymore.
Tbh I can't tell how much in any religion can make sense to anyone, other than to those who haven't been told a great deal different. To me, letting my child die because I refuse him a blood transfusion because a denomination of a 2000 year old book told me so, is not the idea of moral.
If you were happier back when you were in the church, then go back I guess. But I'd suggest listening to secular points of view first.
sameold124
Aug 28 2010, 06:10 AM
I am a Jehovahs Witness. Honestly I can tell you, I've been everywhere else, It is the only religion that does make sense. If you need to talk about it, I know personal issues are involved, and trust me I have been through A LOT. I haven't been one my whole life so if you need to talk about it you can PM me, I'll try my best to help you with this.
Nagadick
Sep 03 2010, 02:54 PM
It is the only religion that does make sense.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/05/04/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-disowns-son-aged-five-who-received-life-saving-blood/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279252/Jehovahs-Witness-15-dies-refusing-blood-following-crash.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22032266/
Yep, makes perfect sense.
Aurelia
Sep 03 2010, 03:34 PM
http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/05/04/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-disowns-son-aged-five-who-received-life-saving-blood/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279252/Jehovahs-Witness-15-dies-refusing-blood-following-crash.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22032266/
Yep, makes perfect sense.
I was just about to comment on that ridiculous statement. Thank you for answering for me.
@sameold: You should be more careful with statements that use words like "only" because it makes you look like a biased douchebag.
@nafeasonto: If you don't feel happy then clearly you either need to go back or find another faith (or none) that makes you feel happy. Believe whatever the hell you want to believe just as long as you don't become a zealot, or mopey.
PhoenixSun
Sep 03 2010, 05:16 PM
I am asking this because I used to be a witness. I left them for personal reasons, not because of the religion. If you were, may I ask why you are still there or why you left? I am serious about this as well. People have left for many different reasons. I am kind of kicking myself for leaving as I was most happy there. Now I have no religion, I really don't believe in anything at this point. Not as happy I used to be. I just felt everything they taught me made sense.
No hell. AS hell is never mentioned as a place in the bible. Since hell comes form the greek word literally translated "a grave." People are getting mixed up with Gehenna, which many bibles mix up with Hell. Gehenna (Ha! It was in the spell check too.) is a place of complete destruction, meaning your gone forever, no consciousness forever. No torment, but no existence basically.
You don't have a separate soul from your body. As you are just dead, your unconscious. So you don't have to worry about floating all over the place.
In the end your resurrected, with a new life AFTER Armageddon. On a paradise earth. (No death, no war, no disease, no sickness, unlimited food. No worries.)
Just so many good things to look forward to and learn.
God promised the earth would NEVER be DESTROYED.
Why did I quit it, I really don't know anymore. The more I discuss and think to myself, the more I want to go back. There is always something holding me back.
Please guys no preaching, I was just making points on why it attracted me. Not telling ANYONE in this forum they have to believe what I just said.
like nagadick and aurelia said: if it is what makes you happy, go back to it. there shouldn't be any shame in it. that's your personal happiness and there isn't anyone or anything that can force you not to have it. so go back to your religion.
I've been everywhere else, It is the only religion that does make sense.
@sameold: don't get mad, but you know you had set yourself up for that right. there are a lot of things in religion in general that does not make since, therefore no religion is more sensible or better than the other. just saying that is very biast and if there are or were any serious religious folk around here that took offense to that, they'd be all over you 20x worse than right now.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/05/04/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-disowns-son-aged-five-who-received-life-saving-blood/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279252/Jehovahs-Witness-15-dies-refusing-blood-following-crash.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22032266/
Yep, makes perfect sense. yeah, this proves my above comment. so if it were any other way to save their lives they'd be all well what the hell are you waiting for but because it was a blood transfusion involved they decided to die, which let a man go free and possibly kill another person and put a child into the system where the kid has a pretty high chance of being abused, raped, or anything worse, which i'm pretty sure is against religion as well. there are too many people in the world who do stupid shit because of what they believe. religion or otherwise
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