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RequiemCOTF
Mar 14 2010, 09:53 PM
What's so special about these moves aside from their "flashiness"? Army of One doesn't seem to do much damage (only 700-1000 when they're Staggered), and neither does Last Resort. I'd like some clarification on these, as I don't enjoy wasting CP :<

KIRBYSIM
Mar 14 2010, 11:20 PM
You use them when a target is Staggered to quickly raise their chain percentage.

The attack is also multi-hit. For instance, Army of One does 11 hits. If you combine it with her ATB recharge weapon (tier two regains 20% of 1 ATB slot per hit) you basically regain half of the ATB gauge, making Lightning's turn come twice as fast.

Same thing goes with Lucky Breaker chain ability. 11 chances to trigger per turn.

shumakiso
Mar 15 2010, 05:31 AM
experimenting is ftw

lukehyun
Mar 15 2010, 11:32 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but all those "special" moves each player has completely empties out any chain bonus accrued on targets that are hit. It's explained in the blurb about the skill from the menu. Personally I use them when the target is almost out of stagger, e.g. Fang's special hits three times, but if you use it while they are staggered, a decently leveled Fang will do 99999x3. Hope that helps.

RequiemCOTF
Mar 15 2010, 05:52 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but all those "special" moves each player has completely empties out any chain bonus accrued on targets that are hit. It's explained in the blurb about the skill from the menu. Personally I use them when the target is almost out of stagger, e.g. Fang's special hits three times, but if you use it while they are staggered, a decently leveled Fang will do 99999x3. Hope that helps.

Yay, it's time to let out my pent up anger and sarcasm!

1) You're wrong.
2) You're word doesn't count for much, Mr. One Post.
4) Fang's and Snow's skills, Highwind and Sovereign Fist, DO reset the chain gauge. However, Lightning's (Army of One), Hope's (Last Resort), Sazh's (Cold Blood), and Vanille's (Death) do not.

shumakiso
Mar 16 2010, 05:11 PM
Yay, it's time to let out my pent up anger and sarcasm!

1) You're wrong.
2) You're word doesn't count for much, Mr. One Post.
4) Fang's and Snow's skills, Highwind and Sovereign Fist, DO reset the chain gauge. However, Lightning's (Army of One), Hope's (Last Resort), Sazh's (Cold Blood), and Vanille's (Death) do not.


oh dooodooo i wanted to get him. but I guess I'll have to take my pent up aggression out on...... more adamantoises!!!

lukehyun
Mar 17 2010, 02:09 AM
Haha, you are right and I jumped the gun. To be specific, each of those moves do something special.

Soverign Fist and Highwind: Massive damage and deplete the Stagger gauge (like you said.)

Army of One and Cold Blood: Increases chain bonus on target once staggered, alot (like you said in your first post.)

Last Resort: Not 100%, but similar to Army of One and Cold Blood, but AoE.

Aussie_Blade
Mar 20 2010, 01:41 AM
Cold Blood is actually very useful in charging up the guages of the adamantoise and its counterparts when it has fallen over before it has staggered. It usually charges around 100 per use and probably helps me kill them alot quicker than I though because of the increase when staggered.

RLx
Mar 20 2010, 01:54 AM
Lol when I got Army of One I just spammed it like crazy. It's frickin epic.

Also, weird I was just watching a video on youtube uploaded by TC a second ago. Well, that or the same username...

blade5468
Apr 12 2010, 05:43 PM
Yay, it's time to let out my pent up anger and sarcasm!

1) You're wrong.
2) You're word doesn't count for much, Mr. One Post.
4) Fang's and Snow's skills, Highwind and Sovereign Fist, DO reset the chain gauge. However, Lightning's (Army of One), Hope's (Last Resort), Sazh's (Cold Blood), and Vanille's (Death) do not.

lolwat.


I just made this account to tell you that when you're telling someone they're wrong and act so pretentious, it's sort of necessary to know the difference between you're and your. You're is a contraction for you are.
I'm glad to know that "he is word,"but it would be lovely if you said something that made grammatical sense. And that somehow how many times someone posted affects whether or not their word "counts" for something.
Freedom of speech, anyone?

ohwell, I'll be taking my leave now.

Enjoy the rest of your time as a stereotypical Internet forum mod that thinks he's better than other people by having more knowledge about a game and believes that people's words don't count for anything if they haven't spent an extended period of time on his forum.

gavindor
Apr 12 2010, 07:53 PM
Lol when I got Army of One I just spammed it like crazy. It's frickin epic.

Also, weird I was just watching a video on youtube uploaded by TC a second ago. Well, that or the same username...


I began using lightning as my main player for spamming mission 31 and farming simply because of army of one and i have a maxed helter skelter on her (chapter 11)

this move is awesome and breaks stuff and prevents mobs from using tornado and some big hits iff you hit em and stagger them fast like the Centurion in 31 he wont knock you all down. faster 5 star without preemptive on that mission.

Agustazz
Apr 12 2010, 08:11 PM
lolwat.


I just made this account to tell you that when you're telling someone they're wrong and act so pretentious, it's sort of necessary to know the difference between you're and your. You're is a contraction for you are.
I'm glad to know that "he is word,"but it would be lovely if you said something that made grammatical sense. And that somehow how many times someone posted affects whether or not their word "counts" for something.
Freedom of speech, anyone?

ohwell, I'll be taking my leave now.

Enjoy the rest of your time as a stereotypical Internet forum mod that thinks he's better than other people by having more knowledge about a game and believes that people's words don't count for anything if they haven't spent an extended period of time on his forum.

You just registered for such a stupid thing?! :wtf:
FFS RETARDS keep coming....
Btw, he is not a mod....

Batallo
Apr 13 2010, 03:51 PM
You just registered for such a stupid thing?! :wtf:
FFS RETARDS keep coming....
Btw, he is not a mod....


Way to go! completely miss the point of his post. good job.

IchiruKurosaki
Jul 05 2010, 04:21 AM
Lol agreed. Once i got army of 1 in the crystogen i spammed the crap out of mobs! Prevents them from doing anything!! Army of one FTW!!!!!!

kuchi
Jul 05 2010, 08:37 AM
Its nice to stack the stagger bar but overall Highwind blows it out the window.

Spike
Jul 05 2010, 09:20 AM
Lol agreed. Once i got army of 1 in the crystogen i spammed the crap out of mobs! Prevents them from doing anything!! Army of one FTW!!!!!!

The special animation for this is awesome :dance:

vTesseracTv
Jul 05 2010, 05:21 PM
What about Vanille's Death? What's the chance of it actually working? I got all excited about it, but then it NEVER worked for me. (Only tried it on about 10 different battles.)

kuchi
Jul 06 2010, 08:35 AM
Death is 1% chance but gets boosted by things like Faith and Imperili. Cant remember exactly but it will be contained in the link in my sig.

Nicole"Light"Cauthen
Jul 14 2010, 07:16 PM
Its nice to stack the stagger bar but overall Highwind blows it out the window.



So true. Highwind + Haste = Good times. :)

NAPOL3ON
Aug 04 2010, 01:28 PM
Highwind owns

Chat Noir
Aug 21 2010, 11:54 AM
My heart beats like crazy everytime Lightning does the Army of One :3

Toreadore
Aug 21 2010, 02:29 PM
My heart beats like crazy everytime Lightning does the Army of One :3

pretty much agree.
Most badass animated move in FF13