Weapon leveling XP question

[vortey]

Hi everyone, basically has anyone devised a formula to work out how many of a certain item they need to level a weapon from L1 - *

i have the collectors stratergy guide and it tells me that every weapon has a base xp and a increase that remands the same each level.

For examlpe Snows weapon paladin has a base level exp of 1200 and a increase of 225 per level .

bascially has anyone devised a basic formula to work out how much xp is needed to level it from level 1 to its * ( in this case 21)

i worked out that i need 72450 experiance to level paladin from level 1 to 21 . that works out a stack off 144 turbojets with a x3 multiplier at presant however it took me a good deal of time to reach this. so just wonders if anyone has a forumula were i can just swap the base stat weapon level or experiance increase to get a overall xp requirement



hope that makes sense and someone can help :)

[Agent Dunham]

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[Ryoazza]

Hi everyone, basically has anyone devised a formula to work out how many of a certain item they need to level a weapon from L1 - *

i have the collectors stratergy guide and it tells me that every weapon has a base xp and a increase that remands the same each level.

For examlpe Snows weapon paladin has a base level exp of 1200 and a increase of 225 per level .

bascially has anyone devised a basic formula to work out how much xp is needed to level it from level 1 to its * ( in this case 21)

i worked out that i need 72450 experiance to level paladin from level 1 to 21 . that works out a stack off 144 turbojets with a x3 multiplier at presant however it took me a good deal of time to reach this. so just wonders if anyone has a forumula were i can just swap the base stat weapon level or experiance increase to get a overall xp requirement



hope that makes sense and someone can help :)
Wouldn't this be a simple: Rate EXP goes up * Level + (Base EXP * Level)
So for level 16 lets say
225*16 +(1200*16)=4080+19200
=23280
Either I'm wrong ( I suspect) or you are wrong about how much EXP is needed for level 21

[Adoragon]

It should be zx+zya where x=base xp needed, y=incremental amount, z=desired level change (i.e. level 1 going to level 21 would be 20 or 20 to 40 would be 19), and a=z/2

example:
zx+zya
20(1200)+20(225*10)
24000+20(2250)
25200+47250
72450

I haven't tested it out a bunch yet but got my equations from patterns and trial and error.

[vortey]

that is what i did at 1st but then if you do 225 x 16 / 21 then you are increasing it by 225 from the base stat for each level not the previous level

e.g.

L1 = 1200xp
L2 = 1200 + 225
L3 = 1200 + 225 + 255

and so on

doing 225 x 16 would only Add the 1st lot of 225's not the rest added for the rest of the levels

[vortey]

It should be zx+zya where x=base xp needed, y=incremental amount, z=desired level change counting current level (i.e. level 1 going to level 21 would be 21 or 20 to 40 would be 20), and a=(z-1)/2

example:
zx+zya
21(1200)+21(225*10)
24000+20(2250)
25200+47250
72450

I haven't tested it out a bunch yet but got my equations from patterns and trial and error.


thanks pal that seems to all work out to me , jut a few things i wondered how you got though



Firstly will this equation actually work going from 20 to 40 if so would it be just the same

20 levels difference = (20-1)/2 = 9.5

40(1200) + 40(225*9.5)





secondly a big thankyou for taking the time to do this and i hope others get good use out of it too

[Adoragon]

From 20 to 40 you wouldnt use the 40 as a multiplier, just the level difference of 20. The 9.5 you came up with should work too. I hope this helps you.

[vortey]

it seems to so far and the ending total xp from L1 > * seems lot more realistic and in cue to what the strat guide says )

thank you very much :)

[shumakiso]

good estimates all around for weapons

50 k to first *
450k to second *

[vortey]

i read that in the guide also however using that method does cause alot of waste.

for example the paladin weapon needs 70k xp so if u use the estimate to get to 50k you then need to rebuy your multiplier materials and work out how mch you need for next 20k

buy using that formula you can work out exactly how many you need with minimal waste and if you do this before leveling and collect the item you are using for leveling you only need to purchuse one multiplier stack too :) in the long run savin you moneys and lots of frustrating leveling :P

[blueblueky]

http://ff13db.sakura.ne.jp/index.php?%C9%F0%B4%EF
This page has all the info for the weapons (in Japanese and for japanese vers.).
From top to bottom - Lightning, Sazh, Snow, Hope, Vanille, Fang.
U might have to guess which weapon is which (try based on the base atk value and special ability).

Hope this helps. Good luck!

[vortey]

thats awsome :) shame its not in english but its still useable :P

[vortey]

that forumla i dont think totally works going 1-21 does or 1 - were-ever

however one of my weapons is level 18 and needs to get to 21 and that forumla says i only need 4k xp

3(1200) + 3 (225*1)

3600 + 675

im wondering were i have the 1 ive done level increase which 18-21 is 3 -1 = 2 / 2 = 1 ...

but if i did it as 21 as their is 21 levels in the "phase" of Level1> L* giving me a muliplier of 10 i think i will get a more realistic result..

[Adoragon]

I guess I should have clarified, the base XP is the XP you are at during that level, so if from 18 it takes 3600, that's you're new base.

I actually used this yesterday and efficiently leveled up 3 weapons to max tier 2 with minimal waste.

EDIT: I also fixed the formula a bit. Due to the wording I had for figuring the level multiplier, I added in an unneeded step with the whole (z-1)/2 and fixed it to just z/2 and reworded the level multiplier.

[vortey]

ive tweaked it a little too not sure what i did but its workin leveled bout 10 weapons from 1-* and one from 18 to 21 with no problem and it tally's up to that jap site

[zercme]

Hope this helps you translated from the Japanese page. Got Reeaaalllyyy Bored. Copy and paste into excell

Lightning





Weapon name maximum physical attacks maximum magic attack Maximum initial LV Total Experience
Increment EXP
Blazefire Saber 15 to 115 15 to 115 1 to 26 24600 57 Flamberge 68 to 323 68 to 323 10 to 61 445950 215 Omega weapon 302 to 620 302 to 620 47 to 100 1296897 297 Axis Blade 8 to 48 8 to 48 1 to 21 66750 225 Enkindler 49 to 133 49 to 133 13 to 41 280830 261 Omega weapon 132 to 315 132 to 315 39 to 100 1419867 297 Edged Carbine 8 to 83 20 to 170 1 to 26 33000 75 Razor Carbin 46 to 190 112 to 448 13 to 61 437550 215 Omega weapon 98 to 210 331 to 723 44 to 100 1296897 297 life Saber 8 to 88 8 to 88 1 to 21 70850 215 Peacemaker 100 to 225 100 to 225 16 to 41 236350 240 Omega weapon 205 to 520 205 to 520 37 to 100 1460247 297 Gladius 25 to 175 13 to 88 1 to 26 54800 116 Helter Skelter 154 to 448 64 to 190 19 to 61 332560 168 Omega weapon 317 to 723 94 to 210 42 to 100 1380087 297 Organyx 37 to 187 37 to 187 1 to 26 20100 42 Apocalypse 128 to 410 128 to 410 14 to 61 233220 116 Omega weapon 281 to 750 281 to 750 33 to 100 1514127 297 hauteclaire 13 to 138 13 to 138 1 to 26 54800 116 Durandal 126 to 378 126 to 378 19 to 61 332560 168 Omega weapon 305 to 711 305 to 711 42 to 100 1380087 297 Lionheart 8 to 68 8 to 68 1 to 21 63060 174 Ultima Weapon 83 to 213 83 to 213 15 to 41 221900 232 Omega weapon 183 to 508 183 to 508 35 to 100 1482487 297






Sazzu





Weapon Name Physical attack to Max LV Magic attack to Max LV Maximum initial LV Total Experience Increment EXP Vega 42s 12 to 137 14 to 139 1 to 26 24600
57 Altairs 74 to 380 84 to 390 10 to 61 445950
215 Total Eclipse 372 to 812 382 to 822 45 to 100 1551723
363 Spica Defenders 6 to 46 15 to 95 1 to 21 66750
232 Sirius Sidearms 65 to 140 95 to 220 16 to 41 218210
232 Total Eclipse 251 to 713 317 to 911 34 to 100 1737313
363 Denab Duelers 8 to 108 24 to 249 1 to 26 33000
75 Canopus Amps 86 to 374 156 to 636 13 to 61 437550
215 Total Eclipse 278 to 608 520 to 1125 45 to 100 1551723
363 Rigels 10 to 160 15 to 165 1 to 26 54800
116 Polaris Specials 160 to 496 168 to 504 19 to 61 332560
168 Total Eclipse 406 to 1006 414 to 1014 40 to 100 1634913
363 Albebarans 0 to 0 40 to 265 1 to 26 20100
42 Sadalmeliks 0 to 0 190 to 660 14 to 61 233220
116 Total Eclipse 0 to 0 402 to 1150 32 to 100 1768953
363 Pleiades Hi-Powers 40 to 340 0 to 0 1 to 26 33000
75 Hyades Magnums 276 to 1140 0 to 0 13 to 61 437550
215 Total Eclipse 545 to 1150 0 to 0 45 to 100 1551723
363 Antares Deluxes 12 to 92 18 to 98 1 to 21 38040
116 Fomalhaut Elites 86 to 216 92 to 222 15 to 41 153000
168 Total Eclipse 172 to 610 178 to 616 27 to 100 1831233
363 Procyons 14 to 94 9 to 49 1 to 21 63060
174 Betelgeuse Customs 104 to 260 60 to 138 15 to 41 243740
260 Total Eclipse 230 to 620 154 to 414 35 to 100 1715473
363






Snow





Weapon Name Physical attack to Max LV Magic attack to Max LV Maximum initial LV Total Experience Increment EXP Wild bear 15 to 140 15 to 140 1 to 26 24600
57 Feral Pride 23 to 383 23 to 383 10 to 61 445950
215 Save the Queen 353 to 717 353 to 717 48 to 100 1246803
286 Paladin 8 to 88 8 to 88 1 to 21 66750
225 Winged Saint 88 to 213 88 to 213 16 to 41 218210
232 Save the Queen 185 to 510 185 to 510 35 to 100 1432393
286 Rebel Heart 5 to 65 10 to 70 1 to 21 38040
116 Warrior's Emblem 92 to 248 101 to 257 15 to 41 153000
168 Save the Queen 170 to 602 179 to 611 28 to 100 1526313
286 Power Cirlce 23 to 198 13 to 38 1 to 26 89700
174 Battle Standard 185 to 513 43 to 125 20 to 61 476940
232 Save the Queen 502 to 925 108 to 202 53 to 100 1150713
286 Feymark 0 to 0 30 to 130 1 to 21 38040
116 Soul Blazer 0 to 0 130 to 330 15 to 41 153000
168 In the clock Seibou 0 to 0 330 to 1040 28 to 100 1526313
286 Sacrificial Circle 41 to 266 41 to 266 1 to 26 89700
174 Indomitus 196 to 565 196 to 565 20 to 61 476940
232 Save the Queen 550 to 1020 550 to 1020 53 to 100 1150713
286 Unsetting Sun 18 to 168 3 to 53 1 to 26 33000
75 Midnight Sun 119 to 503 30 to 126 13 to 61 437550
215 Save the Queen 399 to 815 101 to 205 48 to 100 1246803
286 Umbra 13 to 73 20 to 100 1 to 21 66750
225 Solaris 63 to 175 97 to 265 13 to 41 280830
261 Save the Queen 170 to 410 260 to 620 40 to 100 1369773
286






Hope





Weapon Name Physical attack to Max LV Magic attack to Max LV Maximum initial LV Total Experience Increment EXP Airwing 18 to 98 12 to 72 1 to 21 22440
76 Skycutter 76 to 231 81 to 205 10 to 41 168600
168 Nue 166 to 526 153 to 441 28 to 100 1364052
242 Hawkeye 2 to 27 18 to 193 1 to 26 33000
75 Eagletalon 28 to 124 122 to 506 13 to 61 437550
215 Nue 100 to 202 458 to 917 49 to 100 1084542
242 Otshirvani 6 to 66 14 to 114 1 to 21 66750
225 Urubutsin 78 to 178 110 to 260 16 to 41 221600
232 Nue 193 to 513 265 to 713 36 to 100 1270132
242 Ninurta 12 to 137 12 to 137 1 to 26 33000
75 Jatayu 90 to 378 90 to 378 13 to 61 437550
215 Nue 306 to 612 306 to 612 49 to 100 1084542
242 Vidofnir 6 to 46 14 to 134 1 to 21 66750
225 Hresvelgr 53 to 128 125 to 300 16 to 41 221600
232 Nue 113 to 305 265 to 713 36 to 100 1270132
242 Simurgh 28 to 168 0 to 0 1 to 21 38040
116 Tezcatlipoca 161 to 395 0 to 0 15 to 41 153000
168 Nue 278 to 926 0 to 0 28 to 100 1364052
242 Malphas 30 to 205 30 to 205 1 to 26 33000
75 Naberius 136 to 520 136 to 520 13 to 61 437550
215 Nue 424 to 832 424 to 832 49 to 100 1084542
242 Alicanto 10 to 110 10 to 110 1 to 26 54800
116 Caladrius 122 to 374 122 to 374 19 to 61 332560
168 Nue 272 to 608 272 to 608 44 to 100 1167732
242






Vanilla





Weapon name maximum physical attacks maximum magic attack Maximum initial LV Total Experience
Increment EXP Binding Rod 18 to 168 12 to 37 1 to 26 24600
57 Hunter's Rod 85 to 442 36 to 138 10 to 61 445950
215 Nirvana 330 to 715 106 to 216 45 to 100 1393818
308 Tigerclaw 23 to 198 23 to 198 1 to 26 20100
42 Wyrmfang 140 to 516 140 to 516 14 to 61 233220
116 Nirvana 276 to 828 276 to 828 31 to 100 1611048
308 Healer's Staff 8 to 48 8 to 48 1 to 21 63750
125 Physician's Staff 80 to 180 80 to 180 16 to 41 217410
252 Nirvana 156 to 424 156 to 424 33 to 100 1583208
308 Pearlwing Staff 2 to 27 30 to 140 1 to 26 33000
75 Brightwing Staff 27 to 123 93 to 381 13 to 61 437550
215 Nirvana 91 to 201 417 to 917 45 to 100 1393818
308 Rod of Thorns 6 to 131 6 to 131 1 to 26 33000
75 Orochi Rod 100 to 436 100 to 436 13 to 61 437550
215 Nirvana 324 to 709 324 to 709 45 to 100 1393818
308 Mistilteinn 5 to 65 11 to 131 1 to 21 66750
225 Erinye's Cane 67 to 167 135 to 335 16 to 41 218210
232 Nirvana 135 to 403 271 to 807 33 to 100 1579408
308 Belladonna Ward 5 to 65 11 to 131 1 to 21 38040
116 Malboro Wand 63 to 167 127 to 335 15 to 41 153000
168 Nirvana 107 to 403 215 to 807 26 to 100 1673328
308 Heavenly Axis 5 to 80 11 to 161 1 to 26 54800
116 Abraxas 79 to 247 159 to 495 19 to 61 332560
168 Nirvana 163 to 403 327 to 807 40 to 100 1477008
308






Fang





Weapon name maximum physical attacks maximum magic attack Maximum initial LV Total Experience
Increment EXP Bladed Lance 55 to 130 35 to 85 1 to 26 24600
57 Glaive 96 to 300 35 to 137 10 to 61 445950
215 Kain's Lance 375 to 753 152 to 314 46 to 100 1299075
275 Dragoon Lance 39 to 179 0 to 0 1 to 21 38040
116 Dragonhorn 169 to 385 0 to 0 14 to 41 152640
138 Kain's Lance 287 to 962 0 to 0 25 to 100 1578945
275 Partisan 6 to 31 39 to 189 1 to 26 33000
75 Rhompaia 36 to 130 47 to 467 14 to 61 274350
115 Kain's Lance 112 to 307 319 to 839 35 to 100 1462275
275 Shamanic Spear 0 to 0 47 to 187 1 to 21 38040
116 Heretic's Halberd 0 to 0 162 to 370 15 to 41 153000
168 Kain's Lance 0 to 0 266 to 941 25 to 100 1578585
275 Punisher 20 to 100 31 to 151 1 to 21 70850
215 Banescissor Spear 102 to 222 150 to 222 17 to 41 214110
232 Kain's Lance 182 to 517 262 to 731 33 to 100 1484665
275 Pandoran Spear 20 to 100 31 to 151 1 to 21 70850
215 Calamity Spear 97 to 222 143 to 318 16 to 41 236350
240 Kain's Lance 226 to 616 310 to 830 35 to 100 1462425
275 Taming Pole 23 to 148 23 to 148 1 to 26 54800
116 Venus Gospel 138 to 390 138 to 390 19 to 61 332560
168 Kain's Lance 381 to 921 381 to 921 40 to 100 1382265
275 Gae Bolg 23 to 103 12 to 92 1 to 21 70850
215 Gungnir 110 to 230 100 to 220 17 to 41 214110
232 Kain's Lance 240 to 642 240 to 642 33 to 100 1484665
275

[Wasabijim]

I found this formula on a different board and it seems to work great.

(Base EXP * Max Level) + (((Max Level - 1) * Max Level) /2 ) * Increment Exp

So your example would look like (1200 * 21) + (((21 - 1) * 21) /2) * 225 = 72450




Hi everyone, basically has anyone devised a formula to work out how many of a certain item they need to level a weapon from L1 - *

i have the collectors stratergy guide and it tells me that every weapon has a base xp and a increase that remands the same each level.

For examlpe Snows weapon paladin has a base level exp of 1200 and a increase of 225 per level .

bascially has anyone devised a basic formula to work out how much xp is needed to level it from level 1 to its * ( in this case 21)

i worked out that i need 72450 experiance to level paladin from level 1 to 21 . that works out a stack off 144 turbojets with a x3 multiplier at presant however it took me a good deal of time to reach this. so just wonders if anyone has a forumula were i can just swap the base stat weapon level or experiance increase to get a overall xp requirement



hope that makes sense and someone can help :)

[jonbahamut]

Right. Time for my A Level in maths to finally pay off.

Let's use the Sorcerer's Mark accessory as an example.

At level 1, it requires 1560 XP to level up.
At level 2, it requires 2196 XP to level up.
At level 3, it's 2832. And so on.

It increases by 636 for each level. This is an arithmetic progression.

The sum of an arithmetic progression is expressed as:

Sn=0.5*n(2a+(n-1)d)

Where:
n=Number of level-ups desired (eg. Sorcerer's Mark Lv.1 to Lv.11 (max) makes n=10)
d=XP increment between levels
a=Base XP
Sn=XP required to get to desired level

I can't think of any reason why this shouldn't work when starting at any level, provided you use that level's required XP as base XP (a).

Should any fault arise with this, please feel free to let me know.
And I thought I'd never use this outside college...

[Johny Bravo]

To be honest I can't believe its hasn't been posted in a sticky yet (well at least in a non wall of numbers format). I started doing a spread sheet as I upgraded weapons but didn't really pay attention to accessories. Its not complete yet but I guess when I am done I will try and clean it up and post the exp needed to star each weapon as that is all you really need to know.
Someone doing the same for accessories would be great as well.