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Terros
May 21 2007, 12:32 PM
Pretty much.

Had a sheltered life and got anything he wanted. So all these upcoming events can open his eyes and that is where they get the "sadness" from.

Yes that works too, he probably wouldn't have been satisfied when he got everything until he sees how other people are living...

Fenristh
May 21 2007, 12:50 PM
Why do people keep saying he's emo? He doesn't show emotions, thats not what emo means. :lol:

Desi
May 21 2007, 02:09 PM
Why do people keep saying he's emo? He doesn't show emotions, thats not what emo means. :lol:

I call him apathetic. You know it to be true.

But they just don't like him so they call him Emo. For those of you don't know it is a insult so if you are Emo...

Flint
May 21 2007, 02:26 PM
I call him apathetic

I think it's a case of extreme self-belief. Not arrogance, just a confidence in his own ability and the knowledge that not even a load of men with guns could make a scratch on him. Destroying all those people is most likely such an easy task for him that it wouldn't warrant any kind of emotional response - they are just flies to be swatted away.

Desi
May 21 2007, 03:53 PM
Apathy is him not giving a emotional response and it being an "I don't care" emotion. Apathy being what all the "cool" kids do. He obivously can't keep that attiude throughout the whole game but it pretty much fits here.

Terros
May 21 2007, 04:19 PM
To me he looks distant, and closes him self off, not emo, not remotely.

Misschoco
May 21 2007, 05:47 PM
Yes, but happy wouldn't fit in with the theme of FFvsXIII.
i never said for a happy dandy childhood but just a 'normal' one just like you me and others have. A sad theme throughout just wont explore anything different.why must it be cliched
Pretty much.

Had a sheltered life and got anything he wanted. So all these upcoming events can open his eyes and that is where they get the "sadness" from.
im relieved someone understood what i meant. These upcoming events are a eye opener and we can see the progress in him when he handles these things if he had a normal life and hadnt really experienced anything much like what his experiencing now

Ultima Star
May 21 2007, 11:46 PM
To me he looks distant, and closes him self off, not emo, not remotely.

I agree with you, the look on his eyes shows lik if he was distant, but then again distant person tend to have the greatest heart ever.
Say he doesn't show his emotions maybe cos he's afraid of doin it:nod:

Terros
May 22 2007, 12:26 AM
That and a combination of a few other reason I think.

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 01:33 AM
Other reson? like what?

Terros
May 22 2007, 01:35 AM
I think something other than fear, maybe it's too painful for him to bring up....I don't know.

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 01:38 AM
Say, like he hasn't show his feelings before and it's painful to show the feelings that are inside him?

Terros
May 22 2007, 01:40 AM
Sort of...

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 01:42 AM
Say that'd be nice! that'd mean he seems cold and distant but then he can't show his feelings and so that means he needs love :nod:
But not from the heroine XD

Terros
May 22 2007, 01:47 AM
Lol, give it up. She's in the game we aren't.

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 01:50 AM
No I didn't mean it in that way!
I mean that perhaps he needs love but from his friends like say..he doesn't seem to have friends, does he?

Terros
May 22 2007, 01:54 AM
Not as far as we've seen.

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 01:59 AM
That's why I said that he needs love and he also needs friends :nod:
Nobody can't live without friends, so I think that perhaps he's gonna meet some friends along his journey and that sadness we were talking about earlier perhaps could be cos he may lose during his journey.
Why did you think that I was trying to say that we should be in the game?
I'm starting to control myself :nod:

Terros
May 22 2007, 02:01 AM
He'll probably get some friends.

Desi
May 22 2007, 02:05 AM
Oh noes, I feel a Squall coming on. "I don't want to be alone, come back sister!"

Lifrasthir
May 22 2007, 02:07 AM
Lol yeah...

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 02:14 AM
What's wrong with Squall? He needed friends too, just like Cloud :nod:
Say everybody needs friends :nod: why not Storm?

Desi
May 22 2007, 02:25 AM
Well I was using Squall as an example. You pointed out another like Cloud, so as you can see this is very old.

Terros
May 22 2007, 02:30 AM
It's an older theme but not overused.

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 02:32 AM
.........They only need friends, so the sadness will go away.
That..I think that's Storm's case...

XxFeaRLeSsxX
May 22 2007, 10:10 AM
Everyone need friends, if he's all alone, you'll only get information from his point of view.

Desi
May 22 2007, 12:45 PM
It's an older theme but not overused.
It is the theme used in FF since the days of old though. I mean you can even see it in FFV and FFIX.

if he's all alone, you'll only get information from his point of view. And that is great, it gives a bias view.

Terros
May 22 2007, 04:28 PM
Yes, but we might get it from the perspective of the heroine too...and others.

Misschoco
May 22 2007, 09:07 PM
Oh noes, I feel a Squall coming on. "I don't want to be alone, come back sister!"
no more squalls :nag: anti-social faggot

btw:about his afraid to show his emotions or not wanting too..what if he just doesn't have a solid emotion at that very minute. Must all characters like this be 'afraid to show his emotions' and some dandy wandy heroine comes along to help him develop his feelings.oh nooo i feel a cliche coming on

btw:dandy wandy my way of saying happy and preppy

Ultima Star
May 22 2007, 09:24 PM
....it's necessary to have friends :nod: I haven't seen this theme overused, you know the cold boy that only needs friends..just twice on 7 and on 8.
Why don't use it again, it will make you love the character even more :nod:

Terros
May 23 2007, 01:07 AM
no more squalls :nag: anti-social faggot

btw:about his afraid to show his emotions or not wanting too..what if he just doesn't have a solid emotion at that very minute. Must all characters like this be 'afraid to show his emotions' and some dandy wandy heroine comes along to help him develop his feelings.oh nooo i feel a cliche coming on

btw:dandy wandy my way of saying happy and preppy The heroing does not have to bright and peppy like Rinoa to get him to open up.

Ultima Star
May 23 2007, 01:55 AM
No! I don't want the heroine to be like Rinoa...I couldn't take her doing that with Squall, now how am i supposed to see a heroine such as inmature as Rinoa? Heroine is good, but not if she is like Rinoa! she can show him happiness in some other way

Terros
May 23 2007, 02:03 AM
Like I said she does NOT have to be anything like Rinoa to connect with Storm.

Desi
May 23 2007, 03:39 AM
just twice on 7 and on 8.
:

Also IX, X, X-2, near the end of IV, same with V, a handful of moments in XI, probably also in II. If you don't want to count XI, V, IV and maybe II it is fine. You still have the other three though.

Alphonse
May 23 2007, 03:40 AM
He lookes badass! He's awesome! I think his as cool as Cloud and his super awesome!

XxFeaRLeSsxX
May 23 2007, 06:59 AM
No! I don't want the heroine to be like Rinoa...I couldn't take her doing that with Squall, now how am i supposed to see a heroine such as inmature as Rinoa? Heroine is good, but not if she is like Rinoa! she can show him happiness in some other way

Yup, no too-weak people! He deserves a strong woman! lol

Terros
May 23 2007, 12:30 PM
Yup, no too-weak people! He deserves a strong woman! lol

Indeed he does.

Misschoco
May 23 2007, 09:44 PM
No! I don't want the heroine to be like Rinoa...I couldn't take her doing that with Squall, now how am i supposed to see a heroine such as inmature as Rinoa? Heroine is good, but not if she is like Rinoa! she can show him happiness in some other way
hands down i agree with you ultima star
like terros said the heroine may not have to be bright and preppy to connect with storm.I just dont want and overly concerned female character who chokes storm with her fussing and....whatever (i'v lost words on what to say)

Ultima Star
May 23 2007, 09:49 PM
...I don't want her to be like Rinoa, as I said before!
It'd be..ANOYING!!

Terros
May 24 2007, 12:12 AM
Basically we don't want another Rinoa...EVER!

Ultima Star
May 24 2007, 03:01 AM
No! I'm against it!
Rinoa makes me remind of someone near to me....meXD
So no I don't want a new Rinoa, he deserves something better like..say Aeris?

Lifrasthir
May 24 2007, 07:56 PM
If the heronie's anything on the "Annoying" side I'll shoot myself in the head.

Misschoco
May 24 2007, 08:08 PM
So no I don't want a new Rinoa, he deserves something better like..say Aeris?
Oh joyous ;) aeris was just like rinoa they are like bloody twins

Lifrasthir
May 24 2007, 08:09 PM
Wow Miss Choco...that's so awesome considering they have nothing in common besides they're damn annoying.

Misschoco
May 24 2007, 08:12 PM
Wow Miss Choco...that's so awesome considering they have nothing in common besides they're damn annoying.
*bows* ^_^

dang their annoyingness.I'd praise versus guy if there was a heroine like rinoa and one day storm just happened to punch her :rolleyes:

Lifrasthir
May 24 2007, 08:13 PM
That'd be awesome.

Terros
May 24 2007, 10:36 PM
I would die laughing if I saw that.

Ultima Star
May 24 2007, 11:26 PM
....why is aeris annoying? anyway he deserves something better!

Lucrecia
May 25 2007, 12:17 AM
Well you know at least Aerith did some fighting. Well not very much, but she did more than Rinoa. ;)

Ultima Star
May 25 2007, 12:51 AM
Rinoa is useless, i like her but...she doesn't have good skills, and her personality..is annoying XD
But, ok then I still think that the heroine has to be sweet and kind but not annying, someone that can melt down Storm's heart :nod:

Interficio Nocte
May 25 2007, 12:55 AM
Oh, that would suck.:(

Then again, I am all for a cold-hearted, violent game!:D

Terros
May 25 2007, 01:13 AM
Me too!

Lifrasthir
May 25 2007, 01:14 AM
Then be thankful that there'll be blood. :nod:

Terros
May 25 2007, 01:24 AM
yes, finally, that was one thing that bugged me. LIke in Advent children when Cloud gets shot at the end, he doesn't bleed, nor is there even a bullet hole.

Ultima Star
May 25 2007, 02:55 AM
BLOOD!!!...sorry about it..yes i'd like to see blood too :nod:

Misschoco
May 26 2007, 10:14 AM
Then again, I am all for a cold-hearted, violent game!:D
oh yhh bring on the gore :perv:
yes, finally, that was one thing that bugged me. LIke in Advent children when Cloud gets shot at the end, he doesn't bleed, nor is there even a bullet hole.
that was weird really...............but after accounts of the 2nd trailer we've been told to expect a bloody game and with a high age rating e.g one trailer explanation said how storm twisted one of the soldiers arms with his axe....he kept twisting it back and back before breaking the arm off.

so yh its not for the faint hearted

Ultima Star
May 26 2007, 10:16 PM
WHAAA- he did that?!!!!! OMG can't believe it x________x *suicide*

Interficio Nocte
May 26 2007, 10:36 PM
Really? That would be so cool. Twisting peoples arms off, I might be starting to like this even more Than POP or Assassin's Creed...;)

Cathryn
May 26 2007, 10:59 PM
I WANT THE FULL TRAILERRR!!!!!!!!!! DDD: *screams in front of Squreenix building*

Ultima Star
May 26 2007, 11:16 PM
....Ok..now i'm starting to see this game is gonna have a good dose of gore..and BLOOD!...it' making me nervous

Interficio Nocte
May 26 2007, 11:30 PM
Woo-hoo! Go blood and Gore!:dance:

Cathryn
May 26 2007, 11:33 PM
Most final fantasys have kinda been child friendly really. =\

But now they are stretching the boundarys with a bit more violence. Its nice to see a change. and i cant wait to do some decapitation. :shifty:

Ultima Star
May 26 2007, 11:34 PM
WHAAA- decapitation....I'm more nervous now.....
I could stand monsters and blood, but decapitation....*cover eyes*

Interficio Nocte
May 26 2007, 11:36 PM
Well, obviously you did not like RE4 or POP........:(

Ultima Star
May 26 2007, 11:51 PM
what's that?! never heard of it....

Interficio Nocte
May 26 2007, 11:54 PM
Resident Evil 4 and Prince of Persia(specifically The Two Thrones).....

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 12:11 AM
yeah..uh..ok :blink: blood, gore...*thinks about it*...can get used to it :nod:
If learning to handle with that lets me see Storm, then I'll have to learn XD
I'd do anything just to see Storm...*sighs*...

Interficio Nocte
May 27 2007, 12:17 AM
If you want to know what Prince of Persia is, Here: -http://youtube.com/watch?v=7KKj9hJIofw

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 12:24 AM
I've seen it in different stors, it really seems to be a good action-packed game..but...I'm not too much into that...but anyways, thanks L-A you're a good person :nod: anyway now we're off topic so what do we talk about now?

Interficio Nocte
May 27 2007, 12:43 AM
The guy from the Trailer......

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 12:56 AM
Yeah..I know but about what?! I mean we have been discussing this for weeks you know.....what about why is he sleeping on his throne?...XD forget it

Interficio Nocte
May 27 2007, 02:07 AM
I think he is sleeping on his throne becuase he is depressed that everyone is trying to kill of his line of ruling kings...

The comment before was a joke.......:nod:

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 02:39 AM
ok, now seriously...

Interficio Nocte
May 27 2007, 02:42 AM
ok, now seriously...


Fine.......to be quite honest, my mind is void of ideas at the moment, usually Terros starts gives good theories....

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 02:48 AM
Ok, I think that perhaps he's been sleeping a long time and now he has awaken due to the war for the crystal...well is one of my theories...

Interficio Nocte
May 27 2007, 02:51 AM
I don't even think that he is sleeping, I think that he was just thinking and had his eyes closed. He does not even look groggy after he "wakes up".

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 02:54 AM
I think he's bored outta his mind...:D

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 02:57 AM
Oh I agrre with TF!
But then again it was just a theory....nothing that I could prove either....

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 02:59 AM
Yeah, I was sorta kidding...I have no idea...

Interficio Nocte
May 27 2007, 03:01 AM
Ha, ha, good one.:lol:

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 03:03 AM
*takes a bow* Why thank you. :D

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 03:04 AM
...ok..then I agree with L-A then XD...
Ok so what do you think he was thinking...a strategy or something like that?

Interficio Nocte
May 27 2007, 04:08 AM
Yeah, or maybe just thinking. You know how you will start to think about something and that leads to something and that leads to something Etc. and you are lost in deep thought for a long time.....Most likely that.

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 06:15 PM
OHHH! ok, I think I get it then...ok...so....now..other topic..let's think about....

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 06:54 PM
Yeah, he looked a little phased.

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 07:50 PM
I was starting to think about how many swords does he have...

Misschoco
May 27 2007, 07:51 PM
I don't even think that he is sleeping, I think that he was just thinking and had his eyes closed. He does not even look groggy after he "wakes up".
point made :rolleyes:something i'v been trying to explain for a long time
his just in a resting state.No one can instantly wake up with no grogginess and then fight.

Alphonse
May 27 2007, 08:47 PM
He lookes awesome!

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:00 PM
Yes, he's awesome indeed :nod:
But I was trying to figure out how his personality might be.....

Misschoco
May 27 2007, 11:05 PM
Yes, he's awesome indeed :nod:
But I was trying to figure out how his personality might be.....
determined but sometimes self-conceited.............no snobbery :rolleyes:

yh thats how i think it is and should be

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:08 PM
Yeah, he seems determined that's true, but deep inside he has a burden and perhaps that makes him..I dunno..a little afraid?

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:11 PM
He doesn't look very winsome though...:huh:

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:16 PM
..uh? winsome?

Misschoco
May 27 2007, 11:16 PM
Yeah, he seems determined that's true, but deep inside he has a burden and perhaps that makes him..I dunno..a little afraid?a burden which is to protect the crystal and if he fails..........who knows the terrible consequences.........maybe that makes him afraid.........


......failing

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:17 PM
Let's just say he looks quiet but bold.

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:20 PM
Ok..quiet sounds good..oh yes mischoco that's what I was trying to say, yes the burden is to protect the crystals, so perhaps something really bad may happen if he fails :nod:

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:21 PM
I wanna see him fail in his mission.

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:29 PM
WHAAA? Why TF?

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:30 PM
Well, it'd be something totally different. And V gets outta the situation.

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:37 PM
Different? Nothing ever seen in FF:nod:
Yeah could be interesting

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:38 PM
See my point?

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:43 PM
Yeah, I see it:nod:
So you want him to fail so that the game is not a cliche

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:45 PM
Well, yes and no. I don't want this to be a cliched story. That gets boring after the first 100 games made like that. I just want it to be different...and I think, and hope, Square surprises us.

Ultima Star
May 27 2007, 11:48 PM
Yes, I also hope that:nod:
The surprise could be:
-he fails his mission
-he dies x__X

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:50 PM
He could die...but I don't think he will.

Alphonse
May 27 2007, 11:51 PM
He cant die! His to cool for that!

Lifrasthir
May 27 2007, 11:53 PM
Most likely Square won't kill him. So don't worry.

Alphonse
May 27 2007, 11:56 PM
O.k. Thanks.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 12:10 AM
We were talking about the possibility that he die..but anyways all are theories nothnig moreXD

Alphonse
May 28 2007, 12:12 AM
Yeah. I know. Oops. Sorry.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 12:24 AM
We've been discussing this for a long time :nod:
And I was dying with the idea of him beind dead..so I had to get a grip and try to control myself:nod:

Alphonse
May 28 2007, 12:27 AM
Okay. Sorry.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 12:39 AM
.....ok..anyway..then he should fail in his missions:nod:
TF has so good ideas

Terros
May 28 2007, 12:42 AM
He cant die! His to cool for that!

All the more reason they'd have to kill him, would be powerful....maybe even more so than the death of Aerith or what happened to Tidus.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 12:58 AM
Maybe he becames bad at the end of the story and somehow he dies!

Terros
May 28 2007, 01:00 AM
That....yes, but why?

Lifrasthir
May 28 2007, 01:02 AM
Fate my dear friend Ter. Fate....XD I'm kidding.

It could be because he is considered a villan after the transformation...and everyone knows "good wins and evil dies" blah blah blah.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 01:04 AM
Maybe because...let's say that there is a 'dark shard' and that it gets inside him...so that dark shard makes him act in a bad way and he forgets about his mission and then the people of his kingdom rebel against him and they killed him...or perhaps he fights inside him to be back to his normal self but perhaps in the middle of the fight he loses against the darkness and dies

Terros
May 28 2007, 01:08 AM
Possible. Like I said in another topic, we don't know what effect the crystal will have on those it comes into contact with. Remember the game shares characteristics of Hamlet and one of the themes of the play was maddness.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 02:05 AM
SO he can get mad at the end of the game then die:nod:

Interficio Nocte
May 28 2007, 02:24 AM
Oh, see this guy: http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s61/Lucifers-Assassin/926984_20050826_screen005.jpg

In POP, you turn into him after you get infected by the sands of time and the darkness corrodes the princes body until he cannot control the darkness and turns into this guy.:D

Maybe V has already turned into his evil alter ego and is slowly becoming corroded by darkness and is going mad............

Alphonse
May 28 2007, 02:26 AM
Yeah. Thats likely to happen.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 02:38 AM
So you say Storm is already bad?

Alphonse
May 28 2007, 02:40 AM
Didnt say that. It can happen but I dought it.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 02:51 AM
...then he might turn bad and die!
But what L-A said..he could be already in that 'bad' status

Interficio Nocte
May 28 2007, 02:57 AM
I say he is already in his bad status because, he is tired, pissed looking, cold heartedly killing people with no response or facial expression Etc....

Alphonse
May 28 2007, 02:59 AM
Dang. Nice one.

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 03:04 AM
...he was joking Cloud Rulez..just joking am I right L-A?
yeah, I think he's in the bad status with my theory, but yours is also a good one:nod:

Interficio Nocte
May 28 2007, 03:09 AM
Nope, not joking this time. My theories are not jokes.....

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 03:21 AM
.................ok...so you weren't joking now.....*knocks head in the desk*..........guess that I need to get to know you more as you said XD

Interficio Nocte
May 28 2007, 03:24 AM
Yeah, I actually think that that would be pretty cool.

XxFeaRLeSsxX
May 28 2007, 09:40 AM
Then as Storm-ster is there in his bad self, someone, possibly the heroine, teaches him love and respect for others and helps lift the veil of darkness that kept him and the rest of the world apart :P

Ultima Star
May 28 2007, 03:06 PM
I think that he would learn about love with friends not only with the heroine.
He needs friends so perhaps one of their friends starts to teach him the meaning of friendship and then not only trust in the heroine's love XD

Terros
May 28 2007, 07:38 PM
It is possible that Storm could be the villain, and the guys in armor are the good guys. But considering what the trailer said, him being the last king, protecting his kingdom and the last crystal it doesn't seem to fit.

I don't think he's necessarily "evil" but what he does, or how he handles a situation one might interperet as evil.

Interficio Nocte
May 28 2007, 09:39 PM
Oh, thought of something else:

Ok, think of this. What is the thing that infected V was the crystal itself? so inside his mind he is arguing with his other half, the "bad and violent, selfless, and cold hearted" half, which is slowly corrupting him. Then V snaps out of it some point in the game and you have to destroy the crystal. Think of the crystal like the ring from Lord Of The Rings.

They have never done that.....:nod:

Misschoco
May 28 2007, 11:07 PM
Oh, thought of something else:

Ok, think of this. What is the thing that infected V was the crystal itself? so inside his mind he is arguing with his other half, the "bad and violent, selfless, and cold hearted" half, which is slowly corrupting him. Then V snaps out of it some point in the game and you have to destroy the crystal. Think of the crystal like the ring from Lord Of The Rings.

They have never done that.....:nod:
basically he would have an alter ego...which i thought would be slightly cliched if thats what you meant

but it could be a possibility

Interficio Nocte
May 28 2007, 11:11 PM
Well, have they ever had an alter ego in a FF game? And think of it more as the infection is a new way of thinking so that is why he arguing with himself.

Ultima Star
May 29 2007, 12:41 AM
Ok, I think I get your theory and I think is really a good one.
Yeah, perhaps he's fighting inside him to come back to his real self because he is in this 'evil' status perhaps due to an effect of the crystal

Interficio Nocte
May 29 2007, 12:50 AM
Cool. I like the theory too.;)

Ultima Star
May 29 2007, 01:00 AM
Ok, so the Storm that is introduced to us in the trailer is perhaps on the 'evil' status already, right? and so that means that during the game we're going to get to meet the 'real' Storm ,right?

Interficio Nocte
May 29 2007, 01:57 AM
Yeah, my opinion is that if this theory was put into action, then you play about half of the game or 3/4 of the game as "EVIL" v but then he starts to realize his mistakes and tries to fix his wrongdoings and in doing so he defeats the infection or corruption inside his body....:D

Ultima Star
May 29 2007, 02:07 AM
...um...3/4 don't you think is too much for playing as 'evil'?
I think that perhaps maybe his personality switchs a lot of times during the game, like for a moment his in the 'good' status and that in other moment he enters in the 'evil' status..but then I also think that it'd be good to play the game as half evil/ half good

Interficio Nocte
May 29 2007, 02:44 AM
Well, by "evil" I mean that he is being convinced to do things by his other persona, you would be good and evil in between those times, just like in POP.

I am envisoning this game like POP, the same thing with the corruption and splait personality, I just think it would need to be tweaked a little bit.

Ultima Star
May 29 2007, 02:59 AM
I DID get what you say about being 'evil'

Interficio Nocte
May 29 2007, 03:02 AM
Ok, did you get the rest of it?

Ultima Star
May 29 2007, 03:21 AM
Yes, I DID get it L-A :nod:

Misschoco
May 29 2007, 12:06 PM
i getting the feeling you guys are trying to say he has an alter ego.....i thought that may be cliched and i'd rather battle bad guys then your 'evil' inner self

then again i could be talking crap and really love have an inner conflict

Lucrecia
May 29 2007, 12:12 PM
Wow I haven't posted here for a while. :cunning:

Anyways,

I'm actually convinced with the theories you guys are coming up with. It would be something different to play as 'evil' and then try to be good, etc. Playing as evil and good in a game...I like the sound of that. :w00t:

Misschoco
May 29 2007, 12:13 PM
It would be something different to play as 'evil' and then try to be good, etc. Playing as evil and good in a game...I like the sound of that. :w00t:
i will say this once.i dont think thats cliched for once :P

Desi
May 29 2007, 05:48 PM
Oh, thought of something else:

Ok, think of this. What is the thing that infected V was the crystal itself? so inside his mind he is arguing with his other half, the "bad and violent, selfless, and cold hearted" half, which is slowly corrupting him. Then V snaps out of it some point in the game and you have to destroy the crystal. Think of the crystal like the ring from Lord Of The Rings.

They have never done that.....:nod:
Sounds like what i expect from FFXIII not Versus XIII. I can probably look it up to see if they have never done that. In a way they already have but not exactly.

Interficio Nocte
May 29 2007, 11:40 PM
I can see your point about how that fits FFXIII better but in terms of the darkness involved in the gameplay and the storyline it would be much better off put into FFVIII.

Terros
May 30 2007, 01:37 AM
Perhaps but L-A's theory could work...we won't know for sure until the game comes out.

Ultima Star
May 30 2007, 01:56 AM
I think that L-A's theory is a very good one :nod:

Desi
May 30 2007, 05:39 AM
I can see your point about how that fits FFXIII better but in terms of the darkness involved in the gameplay and the storyline it would be much better off put into FFVIII.The crystal of Pulse already is showing manipulative characteristics. But this isn't the topic for that.

Everyone that read about FFXI knows that having strong crystals lodged in your body just stops the aging process.
Eald'narche (left eye):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/Marsalis/11ealdnarche2.jpg


Prishe (boob/chest):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/Marsalis/11-prishe.jpg Lolicon yes please!

XxFeaRLeSsxX
May 31 2007, 09:49 AM
So basically the game storyline is dark, right?

Ultima Star
May 31 2007, 06:00 PM
Nomura said that :nod:

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 01 2007, 02:49 AM
Sheesh, where are you getting all this info? <_<

Interficio Nocte
Jun 01 2007, 02:54 AM
THE INTERNET!!!!:ohmy:

Yeah, I find most of my info when I am bored and have nothing to do and am just looking around at IGN.com....;)

Ultima Star
Jun 01 2007, 03:02 AM
You also find this info when you open the main page of the site:nod:

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 01 2007, 04:11 AM
Ohhhh.... :blink: ...I'm stupid *hits self with a giant hammer*

Ultima Star
Jun 01 2007, 04:33 AM
No you're not stupid perhaps you enter so fast to the forums that you forget to check the main page with news updates

Desi
Jun 01 2007, 04:45 AM
Let her be. I don't mind the beatings she gives herself. Reading everything released should be a requirement to post. I demand it.

Terros
Jun 01 2007, 04:25 PM
Since the crystals standardly can stop aging then the characters could all be much older than the appear. Think, don't you think it's odd that Storm is the ONLY member left of his family?

Lifrasthir
Jun 01 2007, 04:26 PM
Yes that is strange...never thought about that before.

Ultima Star
Jun 01 2007, 04:34 PM
Me neither XD but perhaps it's because they killed his faily when he was a child, and now he's all alone...poor Storm...

Terros
Jun 01 2007, 04:37 PM
So though he may appear to be in his teens, he could be hundreds of years old.

Lifrasthir
Jun 01 2007, 04:38 PM
Maybe V killed them.

Terros
Jun 01 2007, 04:39 PM
That's raises even more questions....

Lifrasthir
Jun 01 2007, 04:40 PM
It also arises the semi-old theory about V being evil or having a split personality.

Terros
Jun 01 2007, 04:42 PM
Yes it does...since virtually nothing has been released about the plot all we can do is go off on tangents of what we do know.

Lifrasthir
Jun 01 2007, 04:46 PM
Exactly. That bugs me greatly...

Ultima Star
Jun 01 2007, 04:47 PM
You think that he'd actually killed his own family?!
Well..as you said perhaps it was his other personality..:cunning:

Desi
Jun 01 2007, 05:00 PM
Killed his family/siblings so he could be in line for the throne. Now he has it and isn't pleased with it, oh well. His family could take eachother out like in Tactics, so nice.

Lifrasthir
Jun 01 2007, 05:02 PM
It's bloody competition. :shifty:

Ultima Star
Jun 02 2007, 01:55 AM
You think...?:blink:
I cannot imagine him killing his family

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 02 2007, 03:13 AM
Argh, it reminds me of Itachi from Naruto :blink:
...And also those movies of ancient China *coughCurseOfTheGoldenFlowercough*

Ultima Star
Jun 02 2007, 03:19 AM
It'd be pretty weird I hope that it doens't happen or else x__x

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 02 2007, 03:25 AM
It would be a change

Ultima Star
Jun 02 2007, 03:37 AM
Yes a really BAD change

Terros
Jun 02 2007, 05:25 AM
Now thinking of it it's almost cliche'.

Desi
Jun 02 2007, 05:43 AM
Happened in FF: Tactics, X, and XII if that is what you thinking. Most people won't notice though since they are used to the character being semi-parentless.

Terros
Jun 02 2007, 06:45 AM
I hope Nomura comes up with something more creative than that.

Desi
Jun 02 2007, 07:31 AM
I suppose.

Most his family could have surrendered or turncoat to an enemy.

Terros
Jun 03 2007, 02:40 AM
Yeah, I wonder, when they say the last member of his family, he may have disowned the rest of them for some reason.

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 03 2007, 03:07 AM
Yeah, I wonder, when they say the last member of his family, he may have disowned the rest of them for some reason.

Betrayal for greed?

Ultima Star
Jun 03 2007, 03:10 AM
.....the enmies kidnapped his family and killed all of them :shifty:
Just to make Storm feel bad :(

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 03 2007, 03:26 AM
.....the enmies kidnapped his family and killed all of them :shifty:
Just to make Storm feel bad :(

Ooo, murder...nice :rolleyes:

Ultima Star
Jun 03 2007, 03:35 AM
XD well something that came to my mind...it's interesting though :shifty:

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 03 2007, 03:51 AM
How about there's a spy in the palace and he slowly kill/assassinate the royal family one by one?

Ultima Star
Jun 03 2007, 03:56 AM
:ohmy: that's all I'm gonna say XD

Desi
Jun 03 2007, 03:57 AM
If something like that was happening or had happened the whole manor would be uneasy and constantly moving about. We probably would have had bags under his eyes but him sleeping in the chair instead of a bed could show that he doesn't get much breaks.

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 03 2007, 04:05 AM
So could my theory be possible? :rolleyes:

Desi
Jun 03 2007, 04:26 AM
The lack of protection and guards stationed outside his chateau points to no. Assassin running around would mean higher security.

Terros
Jun 03 2007, 05:19 AM
.....the enmies kidnapped his family and killed all of them :shifty:
Just to make Storm feel bad :(

I was thinking something along the lines of a massacre.

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 03 2007, 09:36 AM
Good point :ohmy:

...Massacre? Wow, that sounds like it might be it :nod:

Ultima Star
Jun 03 2007, 02:48 PM
Masacre? oh :ohmy: and after that Storm was the only that survived,right?

Terros
Jun 03 2007, 06:39 PM
Yes, perhaps him and a friend...(the heroine maybe?)

Ultima Star
Jun 04 2007, 12:23 AM
Oh so if the heroine was the one that survived alongside him then that'd mean that is why she might be the only that can understand him, right? :unsure:

Terros
Jun 04 2007, 04:24 PM
Yes, and she may also have her own issues from back then.

Ultima Star
Jun 04 2007, 05:39 PM
issues? like what? :unsure:

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 05 2007, 01:37 AM
Like she is also an orphan (haha her family is also killed) and she lives with the Versus guy's family (adopted) and then the massacre... and yeah :rolleyes:

Ultima Star
Jun 05 2007, 01:48 AM
all of their relatives are dead..they only have each other....then love starts flowering XD NOOO!! X________X

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 05 2007, 01:55 AM
all of their relatives are dead..they only have each other....then love starts flowering XD NOOO!! X________X

lol maybe it's slower than you think ;)

First friendship then the "family" love (since all their relatives are gone, that's obvious), the love relationship might not happen at all or at least until the very end

Ultima Star
Jun 05 2007, 02:21 AM
X_____X either way.....he's gonna love her! *suicides*

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 05 2007, 02:32 AM
There's different kinds of love :nod:

Ultima Star
Jun 05 2007, 02:53 AM
um..yes..not only that love

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 05 2007, 02:56 AM
Wah, it's messy.... That would mess up his feelings towards her :'(

Ultima Star
Jun 05 2007, 03:11 AM
depends on what kinds of feelings :cunning:

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 05 2007, 05:43 AM
depends on what kinds of feelings :cunning:

:rolleyes: You romance lover

Terros
Jun 05 2007, 04:31 PM
Like she is also an orphan (haha her family is also killed) and she lives with the Versus guy's family (adopted) and then the massacre... and yeah :rolleyes:
Here's what i think might happen in a situation SIMILAR, The heroine is a friend of Storm, and they often play together in the palace (where ever Storm lives). They are both there and manage to hide when the massacre takes place.

Ultima Star
Jun 05 2007, 04:47 PM
You really are good when it comes to theories :rolleyes:

Desi
Jun 05 2007, 04:56 PM
That is an unoriginal theory. Maybe I am trying to be too orignal that cliche childhood partners with dead family (shit even alive family) is getting extremely overused.

A good use of childhood friendship, if that is what you looking for, can be found in the Halo books by Eric Nylund. The Fall of Reach is a great example while still being in the context of a videogame.

Terros
Jun 05 2007, 10:57 PM
I have more to my theory, but it's more like my imagination running wild so I won't bother.

Interficio Nocte
Jun 05 2007, 11:07 PM
That is an unoriginal theory. Maybe I am trying to be too orignal that cliche childhood partners with dead family (shit even alive family) is getting extremely overused.

A good use of childhood friendship, if that is what you looking for, can be found in the Halo books by Eric Nylund. The Fall of Reach is a great example while still being in the context of a videogame.

Oh, yes. Those books are WAY better than the games storyline. And they should have done the Halo movie following the books storyline and in full CGI......:nod:

And if you are wondering what happens to the kids here:

- The novel opens with a recounting of Dr. Catherine Elizabeth Halsey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Halo_series_characters#Dr._Catherine_Eliza beth_Halsey) and then-Lieutenant Jacob Keyes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Halo_characters#Jacob_Keyes)' trip to Elysium City on the human colony world of Eridanus 2 on August 17, 2517 where they first met John, a 6-year-old child who they subsequently enrolled in the SPARTAN II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARTAN-II) program, a secret experiment aimed at creating a force of super soldiers for the UNSC Defense Forces from seventy-five conscripted children who possessed certain rare genetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics) markers identified by Dr. Halsey. The children were actually kidnapped by operatives of O.N.I. and replaced by "flash clones"--genetic copies of the children rapidly grown from their DNA and provided a copy of their memories that had been genetically engineered to die of incurable metabolic disorders only a few months after they replaced the real children. This was done so that the future SPARTAN-II's families would never search for their missing children.The story then moves on with a description of the brutal military training and indoctrination to which John-117 (the children are referred to only by their first name and the original SPARTAN project number they were assigned during initial screening) and the rest of the children were subjected by their primary drill instructor, Chief Petty Officer Franklin Mendez. During this time John grew from a competitive young boy into the respected leader of the SPARTAN-II's. At the age of 14 in 2525, John (John-117) and his teammates underwent biogenetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology), cybernetic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybernetics), physiological and neurological enhancements that turned them into highly efficient and lethal super soldiers; however, out of the original 75 SPARTAN-II candidates chosen by Dr. Halsey, only 33 survived the process and received the full benefits of their transformation. Thirty SPARTAN-II's died as a direct result of the process and the mutations it produced and 12 suffered debilitating side-effects such as blindness and paralysis.

It may sound horrible, but it makes for an awesome book.:w00t:

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 06 2007, 04:01 AM
Holy crap Lucifers.... wall of text.... :blink:

Well, yes the idea is used a lot but it is also a good way to start a story :P

Good job, Terros

Terros
Jun 06 2007, 12:43 PM
It is good, and I think it might be similiar to that...

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 07 2007, 03:12 AM
Yup! The heroine and the Versus guy have to have some kind of special/strong bond before the bad stuff happens, if not, then the Versus guy probably wouldn't be able to trust her :D

Am I right?

Desi
Jun 07 2007, 03:59 AM
then the Versus guy probably wouldn't be able to trust her :D

Am I right?

Would that not make for a more interesting story and relationship though? Not trusting someone who says they are your friend.

Terros
Jun 07 2007, 11:14 PM
It would, Desi has a good point.

Ultima Star
Jun 08 2007, 12:27 AM
It really would :shifty:

Terros
Jun 08 2007, 01:33 AM
We could even combine the theories, just cause he knows the heroine from before, does not mean he has to trust her.

Ultima Star
Jun 08 2007, 10:59 PM
Yes, it is not necessary that he trust her, cos perhaps he's a person that doesn't trust anyone but himself^_^

Alphonse
Jun 08 2007, 11:34 PM
Nice! What now?! How about his cool car! Have you seen it!?

Ultima Star
Jun 08 2007, 11:54 PM
Novody has seen his car yet, well at least not me:blink:

Desi
Jun 09 2007, 12:36 AM
yeah they have shown the car. It resembles a 1950-60 car.

Alphonse
Jun 09 2007, 12:49 AM
WOW! Didnt know that! I thought this game took in the present not in the past! It lookes futureistic to me!

Terros
Jun 10 2007, 02:29 AM
yeah they have shown the car. It resembles a 1950-60 car.
Wait, did they show the outside of the car?

Ultima Star
Jun 10 2007, 02:59 AM
I haven't see it..I just saw him inside the car..nothing else^_^

XxFeaRLeSsxX
Jun 10 2007, 12:17 PM
It looks like the inside of a limo to me

Ultima Star
Jun 10 2007, 04:55 PM
Same here...I've always thought it was limo..can't say much about it though...am I the only one that hasn't see his car yet?!

Terros
Jun 10 2007, 07:33 PM
It looks like the inside of a limo to me
That's what I was thinking.

Ultima Star
Jun 11 2007, 12:09 AM
Me too :nod: I think that it is a limo

Alphonse
Jun 11 2007, 12:23 AM
Exactly! It really does! I wonder who is the driver! You can see the outside from a maguasine scan! I think I saw it in another website.

Terros
Jun 11 2007, 02:18 AM
But it could be 1950's limo...or something...

Ultima Star
Jun 11 2007, 03:40 AM
oh yes you could be right^_^

Terros
Jun 11 2007, 12:31 PM
Point is, it has characteristics of both.

Desi
Jun 11 2007, 07:47 PM
Wait, did they show the outside of the car?Yes they did. The shown a very close view of the side and the back.

Ultima Star
Jun 11 2007, 07:49 PM
It's a special limo then:nod: just for this game

Terros
Jun 12 2007, 01:13 AM
Yes they did. The shown a very close view of the side and the back.
Where, I don't recall seeing a picture like that...

Ultima Star
Jun 12 2007, 01:24 AM
...Me neither...I have lots of scans and no there is no car there just the inside of it ^_^

Desi
Jun 12 2007, 04:09 AM
Where, I don't recall seeing a picture like that...
The back was in a magazine scan. The side was at the Square-enix party banner.

Ultima Star
Jun 12 2007, 04:27 PM
No..really?..lol..I'm so blind..

Terros
Jun 12 2007, 04:30 PM
The back was in a magazine scan. The side was at the Square-enix party banner. Oh I see, guess I haven't seen that scan yet...

Ultima Star
Jun 12 2007, 09:33 PM
I'm gonna try to find it :nod: *goes in search for the scan*

Alphonse
Jun 12 2007, 10:24 PM
Man! Ive seen it but I cant find it!

Terros
Jun 13 2007, 01:29 AM
Is it somewhere on this site?

Alphonse
Jun 13 2007, 01:33 AM
I dont think so. I clicked on a link in the FFV13 SECTION and I saw it for the 10th time.

Terros
Jun 13 2007, 01:44 AM
I dont think so. I clicked on a link in the FFV13 SECTION and I saw it for the 10th time.
Dang, not I have to site hunt!`

Alphonse
Jun 13 2007, 01:45 AM
LOL Yeah. Ill help! Ill go look for it!
Foud it! Its in the "Versus main character and plot/story" thread. Just click in scans or something like that and ther it is!

Ultima Star
Jun 13 2007, 01:50 AM
when you find it show it to us pretty please :D